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Cruising Cats: alligator alert!

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Annie Wxill - 26 Mar 2006 00:35 GMT
Ahoy from the boat Genesis.
We just spotted our first alligator! It was floating in the shallows
with just its beady eyes and two bumpy nostrils above the water.
We are almost 50 miles (7 hours) out of Galveston,Texas, heading east on
the ICW (Intracoastal Waterway).  We will anchor out tonight in a place
called Taylor Bayou. We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.

Jim & Anne, crew for Cinder and Rosie
Marina - 26 Mar 2006 07:23 GMT
> Ahoy from the boat Genesis.
> We just spotted our first alligator! It was floating in the shallows
> with just its beady eyes and two bumpy nostrils above the water.
> We are almost 50 miles (7 hours) out of Galveston,Texas, heading east on
> the ICW (Intracoastal Waterway).  We will anchor out tonight in a place
> called Taylor Bayou. We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.

Ooh, good plan.

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Annie Wxill - 27 Mar 2006 02:56 GMT
We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.

> Ooh, good plan.
> Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

Hi Marina,
Actually, an alligator might be able to get onto our swim platform,
which is attached to the back of our boat near the water.  But it is
quite a ways up from there to the deck, and I don't think an alligator
would be able to climb up.  So, as long as we keep our bodies out of the
water, we will be safe from alligators.
But, the kitties are staying in the cabin, just to make sure their fuzzy
little bodies don't end up in the water.
Annie, crew for Rosie and Cinder
Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 27 Mar 2006 03:15 GMT
I hate to inform you but gators can climb in Florida they something called
an alligator proof fence that people use around water fronts it is barbs
that are pointed downward to prevent the gator from climbing over the fence.
Gators actually can push themselves upwards to get over fences

Plus gators can leap or jump out of the water about 4 or 5 feet
http://gatorland.com/shows.html

> We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> little bodies don't end up in the water.
> Annie, crew for Rosie and Cinder
Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 03:01 GMT
> I hate to inform you but gators can climb in Florida ...
> Gators actually can push themselves upwards to get over fences
...

Hi Matthew,
Our journey will take us through Florida.  Do you think an alligator can
climb a slick fiberglass surface straight up? Even if the surface is
rocking?

Just wondering.

Not planning to get close to any alligators, or doing anything to find
our. Enough excitement seeing them from a distance. (Shudder)

Annie, crew for Cinder & Rosie
Matthew AKA NMR - 31 Mar 2006 03:20 GMT
you will be alright in that case  just watch any dangling feet or hands

>> I hate to inform you but gators can climb in Florida ...
>> Gators actually can push themselves upwards to get over fences
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Annie, crew for Cinder & Rosie
Marina - 27 Mar 2006 05:12 GMT
> We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> little bodies don't end up in the water.
> Annie, crew for Rosie and Cinder

Yes, I meant it when I said 'good plan.' I realise the chances would be
slim, but better safe than sorry. The ooh was for seeing an alligator.
I've never met anything that dangerous in the wild. Well, we don't
*have* anything that dangerous living in Finland, except bears I
suppose, and they're usually more wary of people than the people are of
bears.

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Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 27 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
Marina  come to Florida   we got bears, cougars, alligators,  a whole bunch
of poisons snakes, sharks  and the worse one yet OLD PEOPLE; they come at
you they don't even know you are there
you can tell who they are if you are lucky when the car passes by you there
is no one behind the wheel

>> We'll keep the kitties inside the cabin, for sure.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> anything that dangerous living in Finland, except bears I suppose, and
> they're usually more wary of people than the people are of bears.
Marina - 27 Mar 2006 07:23 GMT
> Marina  come to Florida   we got bears, cougars, alligators,  a whole bunch
> of poisons snakes, sharks  and the worse one yet OLD PEOPLE; they come at
> you they don't even know you are there
>  you can tell who they are if you are lucky when the car passes by you there
> is no one behind the wheel

I visited Florida at age 5. It doesn't sound like I would like to
revisit. ;o) We did visit the swamps, but I don't remember seeing any
gators.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Mar 2006 20:02 GMT
> I visited Florida at age 5. It doesn't sound like I would like to
> revisit. ;o) We did visit the swamps, but I don't remember seeing
> any gators.

Come to Colorado!  Coyotes, mountain lions, bears, and deer!  (If you
don't think deer can be scary, you've never been stared down by a male
with a big rack.)

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Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 27 Mar 2006 20:06 GMT
you've never been stared down by a male with a big rack.

you never been to California  have you ;-)
Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Mar 2006 20:55 GMT
>  you've never been stared down by a male with a big rack.
>
> you never been to California  have you ;-)

Err.  No.  But I imagine you see those in Florida, too!

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Marina - 28 Mar 2006 04:38 GMT
>>I visited Florida at age 5. It doesn't sound like I would like to
>>revisit. ;o) We did visit the swamps, but I don't remember seeing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> don't think deer can be scary, you've never been stared down by a male
> with a big rack.)

We've had white-tailed deer on the island. Also elk. Here's a series of
some very blurred pictures of a young elk that visited our house some
years ago:
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/album?.dir=ce47&.src=ph
It must have been a young one, because it was completely unafraid of us.
My sister's macho cat Linus promptly defended the house against the
intruder.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 31 Mar 2006 22:15 GMT
>> Come to Colorado!  Coyotes, mountain lions, bears, and deer!  (If
>> you don't think deer can be scary, you've never been stared down by
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> us.  My sister's macho cat Linus promptly defended the house against
> the intruder.

I wonder if your elk are the same species we have in N. America ...
our elk are supposedly extremely huge (I've been fortunate enough
never to encounter one, but my husband very narrowly avoided hitting
one on the drive to Arizona) ...

I see a lot of deer on my mountain bike rides (never seen a mountain
lion or a bear on the trail, and I'm fine with that trend continuing).
The most surreal experience was when I had sat down on the side of the
trail for a good cry (long story).  A timid deer (I assume a doe) came
up to within a few feet of me and kept me company.  As soon as I
stopped crying, she ran off.

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Marina - 01 Apr 2006 06:39 GMT
>>>Come to Colorado!  Coyotes, mountain lions, bears, and deer!  (If
>>>you don't think deer can be scary, you've never been stared down by
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> never to encounter one, but my husband very narrowly avoided hitting
> one on the drive to Arizona) ...

AIUI, our elk are more like your moose.

> I see a lot of deer on my mountain bike rides (never seen a mountain
> lion or a bear on the trail, and I'm fine with that trend continuing).
> The most surreal experience was when I had sat down on the side of the
> trail for a good cry (long story).  A timid deer (I assume a doe) came
> up to within a few feet of me and kept me company.  As soon as I
> stopped crying, she ran off.

That's lovely! I would think that could be quite comforting.

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polonca12000 - 01 Apr 2006 21:07 GMT
<snip>
> The most surreal experience was when I had sat down on the side of the
> trail for a good cry (long story).  A timid deer (I assume a doe) came
> up to within a few feet of me and kept me company.  As soon as I
> stopped crying, she ran off.

I'm so glad the doe kept you company, Monique!
Hugs,
Polonca and Soncek
Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Mar 2006 20:01 GMT
> Yes, I meant it when I said 'good plan.' I realise the chances would
> be slim, but better safe than sorry. The ooh was for seeing an
> alligator.  I've never met anything that dangerous in the wild.
> Well, we don't *have* anything that dangerous living in Finland,
> except bears I suppose, and they're usually more wary of people than
> the people are of bears.

I had a very scary dream last night involving alligators.  Several of
them.  And I was really scared of them, even though everyone around me
kind of laughed it off.

At some point I was dangling from a rope over a pond.  The rope was
swinging and every time I came near the alligator, he tried to chomp
me.

I don't know where this dream came from.  But maybe I shouldn't have
chased my spaghetti dinner with red curry chicken & veggies, just to
finish them up.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Mar 2006 00:26 GMT
> I had a very scary dream last night involving alligators.  Several of
> them.  And I was really scared of them, even though everyone around me
> kind of laughed it off.

> At some point I was dangling from a rope over a pond.  The rope was
> swinging and every time I came near the alligator, he tried to chomp
> me.

> I don't know where this dream came from.

I hope this last statement was facetious, Monique! :) It seems pretty
clear to me where it came from. This thread has been going on for days,
and apparently it seeped into your subconcious. It couldn't have been
more obvious if you'd dreamed you were on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. :)

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Mar 2006 00:40 GMT
> > I had a very scary dream last night involving alligators.  Several
> > of them.  And I was really scared of them, even though everyone
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> couldn't have been more obvious if you'd dreamed you were on a boat
> in the Gulf of Mexico. :)

There were other, even more disturbing parts of the dream.  I don't
clearly remember them, and I don't want to!

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Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 03:05 GMT
...
> There were other, even more disturbing parts of the dream.  I don't
> clearly remember them, and I don't want to!
> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

Monique,

Hugs from me and purrs from Rosie and Cinder.

Annie, crew to Cinder and Rosie
Monique Y. Mudama - 31 Mar 2006 22:05 GMT
> ...
>> There were other, even more disturbing parts of the dream.  I don't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Annie, crew to Cinder and Rosie

Thank you!  I'm okay now.  For some reason, I had two nights in a row
of really unsettling dreams, but, as they say, "I'm much better now."

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Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 02:36 GMT
... It couldn't have been
> more obvious if you'd dreamed you were on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. :)
> Joyce

Hi Joyce,
I'm sorry Monica is having a bad dream because of my post.  Isn't there
an expression about being able to see the swamp because you're up to
your something or other in alligators?  Or is it not being able to see
the forest for the trees?

Anyway, we are in a boat, but not in the Gulf of Mexico.  We are in the
Intracoastal Waterway, which is a channel that at this point pretty much
parallels the Gulf of Mexico.

I've been without Internet or cell phone access for a few days and have
suffered RPCA withdrawal.  I've got more adventures to post.

Annie, crew for Cinder and Rosie
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 31 Mar 2006 03:43 GMT
> I'm sorry Monica is having a bad dream because of my post.

Well, if it wasn't your post, it would be something else. You never
know how someone's story, or a book or movie or anything might affect
somebody's dreams.

> Isn't there
> an expression about being able to see the swamp because you're up to
> your something or other in alligators?  Or is it not being able to see
> the forest for the trees?

There's both. I don't exactly remember the first one about the alligators,
but I'm willing to bet big bucks that NMR does. :)

> Anyway, we are in a boat, but not in the Gulf of Mexico.  We are in the
> Intracoastal Waterway, which is a channel that at this point pretty much
> parallels the Gulf of Mexico.

Oh, I didn't realize the Intracoastal went that far. I've seen it on
the east coast of Florida only.

Joyce
Matthew AKA NMR - 31 Mar 2006 03:48 GMT
> > I'm sorry Monica is having a bad dream because of my post.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> There's both. I don't exactly remember the first one about the alligators,
> but I'm willing to bet big bucks that NMR does. :)

You go swimming in a lake and have one pop up in front of you. You learn a
lot specailly how fast a white boy can walk on water.  I rememebr going to
gatorland and seeing the show and they have the gators jump out of the water
like a killer whale  does at sea world you learn alot

> > Anyway, we are in a boat, but not in the Gulf of Mexico.  We are in the
> > Intracoastal Waterway, which is a channel that at this point pretty much
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Joyce
Matthew AKA NMR - 31 Mar 2006 03:57 GMT
To be honest  I have a friend that actually went down in a plane into the
everglades it took them 38 hours to find her;  she was in a what they call a
puddle jumper   but this was when I was young man.  I remember her telling
me that they would come up in front of them to check her out and the other
survivors.  They had to beat the gators off.   The gators smelled the people
who died in the plane and wanted the bodies; gators like decaying food they
actually take their prey and shove it up under a log and allow it to decay
basically to tenderize it to make it easier to eat.

I have been in boats before fishing and been pulling the fish in and the
gators come up and snap the fish up.  Scares the crap out of you

>> > I'm sorry Monica is having a bad dream because of my post.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>
>> Joyce
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 31 Mar 2006 07:22 GMT
>>> Isn't there
>>> an expression about being able to see the swamp because you're up to
>>> your something or other in alligators?
>>
>> I don't exactly remember the first one about the alligators,
>> but I'm willing to bet big bucks that NMR does. :)

> You go swimming in a lake and have one pop up in front of you. You learn a
> lot specailly how fast a white boy can walk on water.  I rememebr going to
> gatorland and seeing the show and they have the gators jump out of the water
> like a killer whale  does at sea world you learn alot

I think Annie was asking if there's an expression involving alligators.
I seem to remember one about "... up to my @$$ in alligators..." but that's
all I can remember of it. I'm sure you must know it! :)

Joyce
Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 12:55 GMT
> Oh, I didn't realize the Intracoastal went that far. I've seen it on
> the east coast of Florida only.
>
> Joyce

Technically, this part is the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway, but it is part
of the entire system and our charts refer to it as the ICW.  It goes all
the way south to Brownsville, Texas, almost to Mexico.
Annie
Monique Y. Mudama - 31 Mar 2006 22:11 GMT
> > I'm sorry Monica is having a bad dream because of my post.
>
> Well, if it wasn't your post, it would be something else. You never
> know how someone's story, or a book or movie or anything might
> affect somebody's dreams.

That's true.  I also think it has a lot to do with your mindset.
Probably more than what you're exposed to.  If you're stressed out or
worried, you'll have bizarre and/or disturbing dreams.  The
particulars might come from your recent experiences, but that's not
why you're having the crazy dreams.

> > Isn't there an expression about being able to see the swamp
> > because you're up to your something or other in alligators?  Or is
> > it not being able to see the forest for the trees?
>
> There's both. I don't exactly remember the first one about the
> alligators, but I'm willing to bet big bucks that NMR does. :)

I actually have the alligator quote cycling through as one of the
random quotes on my website ... the actual quote (as I found it) is:

"When you're up to your a.s in alligators, it's hard to remember your
initial objective was to drain the swamp."  (Couldn't find an
attribution.)

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Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 02:43 GMT
...
> I don't know where this dream came from.  But maybe I shouldn't have
> chased my spaghetti dinner with red curry chicken & veggies, just to
> finish them up.
> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

Hi Monique,
I'm sorry you are having bad dreams as a result of my alligator alert
post.  It sounds like a scary dream, indeed.  If the people who laughed
it off were in your dream, well, maybe you were playing a trick on
yourself.  If they are real people, just ignore them.

Oh, I heard that alligators just love spaghetti chased by red curry
chicken.

Sorry, just kidding. Go ahead and ignore me.

Annie
Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 02:52 GMT
> Yes, I meant it when I said 'good plan.' I realise the chances would be
> slim, but better safe than sorry. ...
> --
> Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

Hi Marina,

We had a peaceful night and did not see any alligators.  We've not had
any Internet access for about three days.  I've got more adventures to
post.

Annie, crew for Rosie & Cinder
Karen - 26 Mar 2006 18:42 GMT
> Ahoy from the boat Genesis.
> We just spotted our first alligator! It was floating in the shallows
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Jim & Anne, crew for Cinder and Rosie

Wow. I didn't know they went that far out! I always think of them as
swamp creatures.
Annie Wxill - 27 Mar 2006 02:45 GMT
We just spotted our first alligator!
Jim & Anne, crew for Cinder and Rosie

> Wow. I didn't know they went that far out! I always think of them as
> swamp creatures.

Hi Karen,
We are not out that far.  In fact, part of today, our route was quite a
way inland.  Part of the time, the channel is dredged through marshes
and swampland.  Part of the time we will cross a lake or a bay.  
Sometimes we go under major highways. Or, we can peek over a low
embankment and see the Gulf of Mexico. It is an entirely different way
to see our country.
Today, we did not see any alligators (thank goodness).  Cinder enjoys
chattering at the birds she sees through the window.

Annie, crew for Cinder and Rosie
polonca12000 - 26 Mar 2006 20:30 GMT
> Ahoy from the boat Genesis.
> We just spotted our first alligator! It was floating in the shallows
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Jim & Anne, crew for Cinder and Rosie

How scary!
Safety purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
Annie Wxill - 31 Mar 2006 03:03 GMT
How scary!
> Safety purrs,
> Polonca and Soncek

Hi Polonca

Thanks for the good thoughts.

Annie, crew for Cinder and Rosie
 
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