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B & C - Catfight and Claw

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Bev - 15 Mar 2006 02:11 GMT
I was peacefully reading the paper this morning when I heard a noise like
thunder on the roof.   I rushed out and was just in time to see Bonnie and
Clyde fighting by the edge of the roof.   Bonnie was screaming and then
rolled over the guttering off the roof managing to cling to the edge by one
paw.   Clyde was still smacking at her and I will never know how she managed
to fling a back leg  over the guttering and save herself.   The screams and
fighting continued and  I got the hose and washed Clyde down.   He's been a
bit aggressive since coming home from the cattery and he is twice the size
of  Bonnie.

Later when Bonnie was sitting on my knee I noticed what looked like a piece
of plastic stuck on top of her head.   I tried to remove it and finally got
some tweezers and  pulled it off.   Embedded  in her skull had been a
complete cat's claw - shed  by Clyde, no doubt, when in the heat of the
fight.

Bev
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Pat - 15 Mar 2006 02:56 GMT
"Embedded in her skull had been a complete cat's claw"

If it belonged to Clyde he must have a pretty sore foot right about now!
Bev - 15 Mar 2006 03:37 GMT
Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?

Bev

> "Embedded in her skull had been a complete cat's claw"
>
> If it belonged to Clyde he must have a pretty sore foot right about now!
Pat - 15 Mar 2006 04:32 GMT
> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?

I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
their fingernails: Not.
William Hamblen - 15 Mar 2006 05:47 GMT
>> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
>
> I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
> their fingernails: Not.

Cats' claws have layers like onions and the outer layer can come off
in a struggle.  I've plucked pieces of claw from cats before.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Mar 2006 08:44 GMT
>>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Cats' claws have layers like onions and the outer layer can come off
> in a struggle.  

And are designed to shed the worn layers as needed.
Pat - 15 Mar 2006 14:18 GMT
>>>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> And are designed to shed the worn layers as needed.

But she said this was a "complete claw".
Bev - 15 Mar 2006 19:23 GMT
The sheath was in the shape of a complete claw - I have seldom seen one so
undamaged.

Bev

>>>>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>>>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
> But she said this was a "complete claw".
Cheryl Perkins - 15 Mar 2006 14:34 GMT
>>> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
>>
>> I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
>> their fingernails: Not.

> Cats' claws have layers like onions and the outer layer can come off
> in a struggle.  I've plucked pieces of claw from cats before.

And sometimes the outer layer comes off looking just like a complete claw,
except for the bit where the real complete claw is still attached to the
cat. I think this often hapens if they're fighting or using their
scratching post or get hooked up in something.

Cats manicure themselves in such an energetic way! Chomp, chomp with their
teeth. If it were at all easy for a cat to lose the entire claw, as
opposed to a claw-shaped outer layer, they'd none of them have a claw left!

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Julie Cook - 15 Mar 2006 06:11 GMT
>> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
>
> I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
> their fingernails: Not.

You're right, Bev. I recently found an intact claw sheath. It scared me at
first because I thought it was an entire claw. When I picked it up I
discovered it was hollow and realized a sheath had been shed.  It promptly
joined the whiskers in the whisker jar. I suspect it belonged to Barnabus,
although I can't prove that.

Julie
mlbriggs - 15 Mar 2006 06:27 GMT
>>> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Julie

I would like to hear more about the whisker jar.  How did you start it and
why?  Will it serve some future purpose?  MLB
Marina - 15 Mar 2006 06:13 GMT
>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
>
> I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
> their fingernails: Not.

They don't shed the whole claw, but their outer sheaths. I used to find
those sheaths around all the time. Nikki would pull them off her claws.
My current two don't seem to shed their sheaths, or maybe I just don't
find them.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Mar 2006 10:56 GMT
> They don't shed the whole claw, but their outer sheaths. I used to find
> those sheaths around all the time. Nikki would pull them off her claws.

Over the past couple of years, I've had an occasional job cleaning
offices at night. Sometimes I've working with a partner, who originally
got me the job. And she knows me because I've cat-sat for her, so she
is a cat person.

One time while we were working, she came up to me, smiling, to show me
what she had found on the carpet: the outer sheath of a cat's claw.
Since this was a professional building that did not have any cats
wandering the halls, we briefly wondered where it had come from. Why,
from my vacuum cleaner, of course - which I had brought with me to do
the job. Mystery solved. I'm sure my vacuum cleaner is full of the
things!

Joyce
Adrian - 15 Mar 2006 11:23 GMT
>>> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new
>>> ones underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> claws. My current two don't seem to shed their sheaths, or maybe I
> just don't find them.

Once, when Snoopy was sitting on my lap, she was frightened by the doorbell.
She jumped off so quickly she left a claw sheaths embeded in my leg.
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---MIKE--- - 15 Mar 2006 21:03 GMT
Adrian wrote-

>>Once, when Snoopy was sitting on my
>> lap, she was frightened by the
>> doorbell. She jumped off so quickly she
>> left a claw sheaths embeded in my leg.

When Tiger gets on my lap I always put a folded towel there first to
prevent that.  One time when the doorbell rang, both cats were on the
carpet.  The mad scrambling left three sheaths on the carpet.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Mar 2006 08:42 GMT
>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
>
> I think cats shed their claws in about the same manner that humans shed
> their fingernails: Not.

No, that's not true - cat's claws are not at all like human
fingernails!  Don't you ever find the worn-out claw casings
around the house, when you're cleaning?  (Especially around
their scratching posts and stuff they scratch on?)
Pat - 15 Mar 2006 14:22 GMT
>  Don't you ever find the worn-out claw casings around the house, when
> you're cleaning?

Never have....
Steve Touchstone - 29 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
>>>Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
>>>underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>around the house, when you're cleaning?  (Especially around
>their scratching posts and stuff they scratch on?)

Well, I for one have never found one, despite the fact thatt I clean
regularly. Why, I think it was just last April that I even moved the
cat tree away from the wall to vacuum behind it ;-)
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Sandy - 15 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT
Cat claws grow in layers, called sheaths.  Think of a lot of ice cream cones
stacked together: periodically the outermost one will come off, leaving the
next one exposed.  When we talk about cats "sharpening" their claws, it just
means that a newly-exposed claw sheath is usually sharper because it hasn't
been getting worn down while it was covered by an older sheath.

What was embedded in Bonnie's head was probably an entire sheath, not an
entire claw.  If it had been an entire claw, then Clyde would have an
injured and bleeding toe.

Sandy

> Clyde's feet are fine, I think cat's shed their claws and grow new ones
> underneath.   Perhaps I'm wrong?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> If it belonged to Clyde he must have a pretty sore foot right about now!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Mar 2006 08:37 GMT
> "Embedded in her skull had been a complete cat's claw"
>
> If it belonged to Clyde he must have a pretty sore foot right about now!

Not really - cats shed the outer parts of their claws
regularly - that's why they're always sharp.  (They scratch
things not to "sharpen" the existing claws, but to remove
the worn outer casing and free the fresh claw growing under it.)
Lois - 15 Mar 2006 10:27 GMT
> Not really - cats shed the outer parts of their claws regularly - that's
> why they're always sharp.  (They scratch things not to "sharpen" the
> existing claws, but to remove the worn outer casing and free the fresh
> claw growing under it.)

You are right Evelyn ALL cats shed the sheath, and it doesn't have to be in
a fight, I am always finding these sheaths around the house.

Cheers
Lois
---MIKE--- - 15 Mar 2006 20:54 GMT
I save claw sheaths and whiskers in a jar.  The sheath jar is about half
full.  Here is a picture of my whisker collecftion.  At the top is a
tooth that Amber lost.

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/View?u=1777604&a=13746150&p=71611133&Sequence=0&
res=high


                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Steve Touchstone - 29 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
>I save claw sheaths and whiskers in a jar.  The sheath jar is about half
>full.  Here is a picture of my whisker collecftion.  At the top is a
>tooth that Amber lost.
>
>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/View?u=1777604&a=13746150&p=71611133&Sequence=0&
res=high

Quite a collection. I myself have an extensive collection of cat fur.
Right now I have quite a collection on the bedspread. Little Bit
usually demands a good brushing before I am allowed to go to sleep at
night, and with the weather getting warmer she's been contributing a
lot lately ;-)
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Gandalf - 15 Mar 2006 03:38 GMT
>I was peacefully reading the paper this morning when I heard a noise like
>thunder on the roof.   I rushed out and was just in time to see Bonnie and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Bev
>!
Keep a close eye on the spot where the claw was: this is a perfect
scenario for an abscess, unfortunately :-(
Suz - 15 Mar 2006 13:29 GMT
> I was peacefully reading the paper this morning when I heard a noise like
> thunder on the roof.   I rushed out and was just in time to see Bonnie and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> treacle, and melted under the gate -
> Elizabeth Lemarchand

Owwwwwwwwwwwww! Poor Bonnie.
Suz&Spicey

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