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any cat friendly fly repellent?

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W. Leong - 13 Mar 2006 22:07 GMT
With the milder weather, I am getting flies in my home. Rusty likes to catch
and
eat them which I doubt is good for him. I want to use some fly repellents
but
wants to make sure it is OK to use around cats.
Any suggestions?

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CatNipped - 13 Mar 2006 23:10 GMT
> With the milder weather, I am getting flies in my home. Rusty likes to
> catch and
> eat them which I doubt is good for him. I want to use some fly repellents
> but
> wants to make sure it is OK to use around cats.
> Any suggestions?

Fly paper is safest, but also grossest.  Just make sure you put the sticky
strip out of Rusty's reach.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Mar 2006 04:10 GMT
> With the milder weather, I am getting flies in my home. Rusty likes to catch
> and
> eat them which I doubt is good for him.

Why not?  Cats catch and eat quite a few insects (mine are
more partial to grasshoppers, which have a bit more "meat"
on them than flies).  I agree the idea of our cats eating
flies is a bit repellent to us humans, but I really don't
think it can hurt them any.
W. Leong - 14 Mar 2006 13:09 GMT
> Why not?  Cats catch and eat quite a few insects (mine are more partial to
> grasshoppers, which have a bit more "meat" on them than flies).  I agree
> the idea of our cats eating flies is a bit repellent to us humans, but I
> really don't think it can hurt them any.

Rusty has eaten many flies in his life and he is still around after
all these years. So I guess it is OK. Plus he is not as active in catching
them now.
But I still need to do something about the flies.
One time I came home from vacation and found lots of dead flies on the
floor.
It was gross. Rusty was boarded at the vet, so he didn't get to eat them.
My windows are all closed so I don't know how they got in. My neighbour
keeps a very clean house and she also got lots of flies.

Winnie
jmcquown - 14 Mar 2006 13:36 GMT
>> Why not?  Cats catch and eat quite a few insects (mine are more
>> partial to grasshoppers, which have a bit more "meat" on them than
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>
> Winnie

Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
the kitchen door.  Flies are annoying.

Jill
Cheryl Perkins - 14 Mar 2006 13:54 GMT
> Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
> parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
> the kitchen door.  Flies are annoying.

Sometimes called flypaper, and I think some hardware stores still carry
it. There's a funny story in Pratchett's 'The Unadulterated Cat' about a
cat who stared at the swaying flypaper until he couldn't resist attacking
it...

When I was in Europe, they had a kind of cross between camping mosquito
coils and Glade plug-ins that you could use indoors and supposedly either
repelled or killed small flying insects. Certainly, I wasn't bothered by
mosquitos or flies when I was in houses using these even though they had
no window screens. But I don't think I've seen those particular products
in North America; only the more powerful outdoors versions.

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John F. Eldredge - 14 Mar 2006 14:20 GMT
>> Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
>> parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>no window screens. But I don't think I've seen those particular products
>in North America; only the more powerful outdoors versions.

One thing to keep in mind is that, while some forms of flypaper are
basically glue strips, so that the flies remain stuck and die of
starvation, many brands of flypaper have poison mixed in with the
glue.  The fly lands on the flypaper and takes off again, but the
poisonous glue sticks to its feet, and the fly ingests the poison when
it licks the glue off of its feet.  Back in the 1970s, I remember
hearing warnings that flypaper gave off poisonous fumes as well, but I
don't know the truth of that statement.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Mar 2006 08:31 GMT
>>>Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
>>>parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
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> hearing warnings that flypaper gave off poisonous fumes as well, but I
> don't know the truth of that statement.

But if the cat ate poisoned flies, it might not be very good
for the cat!  (One argument against poisoning rats or mice
in an environment that includes a cat.)
John F. Eldredge - 15 Mar 2006 15:03 GMT
>>>>Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
>>>>parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
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>for the cat!  (One argument against poisoning rats or mice
>in an environment that includes a cat.)

That was my point, although I failed to say so explicitly.  The
poisonous-fumes variety, as well as any sort of room-fogging device,
risk poisoning everyone in the household, human, feline, or other.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Mar 2006 08:29 GMT
>>Perhaps hanging "fly strips"?  I'm not even sure they still sell those.  My
>>parents used to hang them in their garage to keep flies from coming in via
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> no window screens. But I don't think I've seen those particular products
> in North America; only the more powerful outdoors versions.

You can buy plug-in electrical gadgets that are supposed to
repell pests ultrasonically.  I've had them, from time to
time, and was not particularly bothered with insects, but
I'm not sure whether it was the gadget or just a pest-free
location.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT
> One time I came home from vacation and found lots of dead flies on the
> floor.
> It was gross. Rusty was boarded at the vet, so he didn't get to eat them.
> My windows are all closed so I don't know how they got in.

Probably there were fly eggs someplace from earlier, and they hatched
while you were gone. A disgusting thought, I know, but probable.

Joyce
Magic Mood Jeep© - 14 Mar 2006 23:22 GMT
>> One time I came home from vacation and found lots of dead flies on
>> the floor.
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>
> Joyce

Especially since flies lay their eggs on dead animals, and the eggs hatch
into *maggots*(that eat the dead animal) before they pupate into flies
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:

> Especially since flies lay their eggs on dead animals, and the eggs hatch
> into *maggots*(that eat the dead animal) before they pupate into flies

Yes, well, it is not a pretty situation all around, is it?

But if she didn't have any dead animals around, including rotting
meat, where would they have laid their eggs?

Joyce
Cheryl Perkins - 14 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
> "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:

>  > Especially since flies lay their eggs on dead animals, and the eggs hatch
>  > into *maggots*(that eat the dead animal) before they pupate into flies

> Yes, well, it is not a pretty situation all around, is it?

> But if she didn't have any dead animals around, including rotting
> meat, where would they have laid their eggs?

Scraps of food? There are flies that use fruit or vegetables instead of
dead animals.

Or maybe they bred just outside, and got in through some cracks or other
openings.

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W. Leong - 15 Mar 2006 01:21 GMT
>> "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
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> Scraps of food? There are flies that use fruit or vegetables instead of
> dead animals.

No I am very careful about not leaving scraps of food around.

> Or maybe they bred just outside, and got in through some cracks or other
> openings.

This is most likely the case. As I said earlier, many of my neighbours have
the same problem. I know there must be cracks somewhere as I can feel
a draft in the winter. Management did something to the outside wall  last
year and the fly popluation went down drastically afterwards.
It probably  will be done  again soon.

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