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W. Leong - 10 Mar 2006 21:42 GMT
Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
pee, and
the pH was  around 5. So he will be on antibiotic for 2 weeks and we are
switching prescription food again for the nth time. But back to MediCal
preventive formula for urinary problems and I think it will be cheaper.
Plus he had it before so it should still agree with his sensitive tummy.
But today's total  charge was over $300 Canadian!  Ouch ouch!
I still have to go back for a refill on the antibiotic and  a recheck and
vaccination which is due next month. I may postpone the vaccination to
give my bank account a breather.
Hope the blood results are fine. I won't know till next week as they are
sending the blood out to some lab.

Now I feel drained and need something to calm me down. Rusty is very
stressed too. It has been a rough long day.

Thanks for all your purrs.

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CatNipped - 10 Mar 2006 22:05 GMT
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
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>
> Thanks for all your purrs.

Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with poor
Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.

Purrs that he gets well quickly, purrs for your frazzled nerves, and purrs
for your depleted bank account!

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W. Leong - 10 Mar 2006 22:27 GMT
> Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with poor
> Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.

Have you tried cranberries? They are supposed to be good for UTI.
Last night I was enjoying a cranberry pie with some friends and remarked
that cranberries are good for UTI. Little did I know then I will be dealing
with a feline UTI today.

On another note, Chico, the himmie who lives at TED's clinic had eye
surgeries.
I didn't get the details. But poor Chico's eyes look cloudy. He has put on
some weight and was sleeping on the counter. He used to come to meow to
Rusty. But not this time. I was told Chico hates other cats, but he likes
Rusty.
Chico is younger than Rusty, but he looks older.
TED's dogs are also boarding at his clinic while he is on vacation.
No boarding fees for him.
The subtitue vet seems nice. She didn't put a catheter in Rusty to collect
urine the way Rusty's regular TED did, but gave him an injection to make him
pee. She wanted to make sure Rusty is not blocked and can pee on his own. It
is less traumatic for Rusty too, who loudly complained when they drew blood.
from his neck.

Winnie
.

> Purrs that he gets well quickly, purrs for your frazzled nerves, and purrs
> for your depleted bank account!
CatNipped - 10 Mar 2006 22:48 GMT
>> Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with
>> poor Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.
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> dealing
> with a feline UTI today.

Yep, I eat cranberries almost every day.  This is a problem I've had since I
was a baby - though I have them less now than I used to (besides
cranberries, I've learned some other preventative measures).  Even though I
get them less, I still get them all too often, so I still keep AZO on hand
at all times.

> On another note, Chico, the himmie who lives at TED's clinic had eye
> surgeries.
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> Rusty.
> Chico is younger than Rusty, but he looks older.

Poor Chico!  Purrs for his recovery too.

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> TED's dogs are also boarding at his clinic while he is on vacation.
> No boarding fees for him.
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>> Purrs that he gets well quickly, purrs for your frazzled nerves, and
>> purrs for your depleted bank account!
kilikini - 10 Mar 2006 23:43 GMT
> >> Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with
> >> poor Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.
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> get them less, I still get them all too often, so I still keep AZO on hand
> at all times.

Try cranberry pills.  That's what I do, three times a day, and they help
tremendously!

kili
W. Leong - 11 Mar 2006 00:11 GMT
> Try cranberry pills.  That's what I do, three times a day, and they help
> tremendously!
>
> kili

I am tempted to give Rusty cranberry pills since he seems to be prone to
UTI. But I aways have problem pilling him.

Winnie
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Mar 2006 20:29 GMT
>> Try cranberry pills.  That's what I do, three times a day, and they
>> help tremendously!
>
> I am tempted to give Rusty cranberry pills since he seems to be
> prone to UTI. But I aways have problem pilling him.

Cranberries are supposed to help for humans, but I would talk to a
vet before giving Rusty cranberry pills.  They're probably very
concentrated.

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W. Leong - 13 Mar 2006 03:46 GMT
>> I am tempted to give Rusty cranberry pills since he seems to be
>> prone to UTI. But I aways have problem pilling him.
>
> Cranberries are supposed to help for humans, but I would talk to a
> vet before giving Rusty cranberry pills.  They're probably very
> concentrated.

Good point. I will ask the vet when I take Rusty in for the followup.
I am also concerned that cranberry may push the urine pH too low
which is not good for oxalate crystals. Rusty doesn't have oxalate, but
at his age he may be at risk for it. Hopefully  the switch back to
prescription food for urinary health will be sufficient. He was
on prescription food for G/I problems which hopefully won't recur.
All these changes of presciption are getting a bit much. Good thing
Rusty eats every prescription food given to him

Winnie
CatNipped - 11 Mar 2006 00:29 GMT
>> >> Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with
>> >> poor Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.
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>
> kili

I'd never heard of cranberry pills - didn't know they existed.  I eat a Lean
Cuisine meal everyday for lunch (the same one since I'm boringly
predictable) - turkey tenderloins with whipped sweet potatoes and stuffing -
and it comes with cranberries mixed in.  But I'll have to have a look for
the cranberry pills the next time I'm at Walgreens.

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W. Leong - 11 Mar 2006 00:48 GMT
> I'd never heard of cranberry pills - didn't know they existed.  I eat a
> Lean Cuisine meal everyday for lunch (the same one since I'm boringly
> predictable) - turkey tenderloins with whipped sweet potatoes and
> stuffing - and it comes with cranberries mixed in.  But I'll have to have
> a look for the cranberry pills the next time I'm at Walgreens.

I remember one doctor  who used to post here years ago once
told me about cranberry pills. But I just realized cranberries may lower
Rusty's
urine pH further. It may be OK when he was young. Now that he is 11 going on
12,  it  may put him at risk for oxalate crystals.
There may not be much cranberry in your lunch meal to make much difference.
I remember hearing another doctor said you need to drink gallons of
cranberry
juice. Better to just eat the cranberries or take the pills, and drink lots
of
water. I just add more water to Rusty's canned food to make sure he is
getting
enough fluid.

Winnie
kilikini - 11 Mar 2006 15:06 GMT
> >> >> Oh, Winnie, I'm so glad you took him in.  I can really empathize with
> >> >> poor Rusty - I get UTIs all the time and they are *painful*.
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> and it comes with cranberries mixed in.  But I'll have to have a look for
> the cranberry pills the next time I'm at Walgreens.

They work!  I used to suffer constantly from UTI's, kidney infections and
bladder infections.  I don't anymore; it's amazing.  Also, the best thing is
since the cranberry is concentrated in pill form, you're not getting all the
sugar from the juice or berry that you would otherwise have to drink or eat.
It's so easy.  Down a pill at breakfast, lunch & dinner.  In about 3 weeks
you'll be set.

kili
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Mar 2006 20:33 GMT
> They work!  I used to suffer constantly from UTI's, kidney
> infections and bladder infections.  I don't anymore; it's amazing.
> Also, the best thing is since the cranberry is concentrated in pill
> form, you're not getting all the sugar from the juice or berry that
> you would otherwise have to drink or eat.  It's so easy.  Down a
> pill at breakfast, lunch & dinner.  In about 3 weeks you'll be set.

There is such a thing as pure cranberry juice; it's just disgusting!
I asked DH to get me some cranberry juice once; there was a
miscommunication and he got me the pure stuff.  Not watered down, not
sweetened, no other juices added.  I couldn't even drink it in an 8:1
ratio of water to juice!

I could add a tiny bit of the pure stuff to my "normal" cranberry
juice cocktail; that was about it.

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Irulan - 10 Mar 2006 22:16 GMT
We are glad to hear that Rusty will be ok as soon as he is back on the meds.
Please give him tons of skritches and smoochies from Lily.
Lily & her mama

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> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks for all your purrs.
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Mar 2006 23:08 GMT
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED.

I'm glad to hear that Rusty's condition sounds very treatable.  Purrs
for your wallet.

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Cheryl Sellner - 11 Mar 2006 02:34 GMT
> Hope the blood results are fine. I won't know till next week as
> they are sending the blood out to some lab.
>
> Now I feel drained and need something to calm me down. Rusty is
> very stressed too. It has been a rough long day.

I think it's a very good idea to delay the vaccinations while he is
fighting an infection, and if the vet disagrees, they need to
seriously think about what vaccinations do, and the effect on the
body.

Purrs for an easy "fix" for Rusty and purrs for your bank account.
And, purrs for your frazzled nerves. Let us know what the blood work
reveals.

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Christine Burel - 11 Mar 2006 03:58 GMT
Sooo very glad you took Rusty in!  Many purrs continuing for his speedy
recovery and also for your nerves!  Commiserations on the vet bills...
Christine
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks for all your purrs.
meee - 11 Mar 2006 04:07 GMT
"<snip>
Just a question....how do your vets sort out payments? Are you allowed to
pay it off, get sent a bill, or pay up front? In Australia, everything has
to be paid up front, on the day it's done.
W. Leong - 11 Mar 2006 13:36 GMT
We are asked to pay up front, just like in Australia. At least with the vets
I have
taken Rusty to.

Winnie

> "<snip>
> Just a question....how do your vets sort out payments? Are you allowed to
> pay it off, get sent a bill, or pay up front? In Australia, everything has
> to be paid up front, on the day it's done.
meee - 12 Mar 2006 07:27 GMT
> We are asked to pay up front, just like in Australia. At least with the
> vets I have
> taken Rusty to.
>
> Winnie

Thanks! I was just wondering, as people were asking to help out on the
'bill' whether you were billed by the vet, or it was just a figure of
speech! Good luck with Rusty!

>> "<snip>
>> Just a question....how do your vets sort out payments? Are you allowed to
>> pay it off, get sent a bill, or pay up front? In Australia, everything
>> has to be paid up front, on the day it's done.
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Mar 2006 20:31 GMT
> Thanks! I was just wondering, as people were asking to help out on
> the 'bill' whether you were billed by the vet, or it was just a
> figure of speech! Good luck with Rusty!

I think some kind vets will accept payment plans if you're in a tough
place.

I know that people in this NG have sent payments to vets for ongoing
treatments and cases where the cat has had to stay overnight for a
while.  Presumably they don't give you the bill for overnights till
it's over.

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Bill Stock - 11 Mar 2006 04:05 GMT
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks for all your purrs.

Maybe we can help you out with the Vet bil. What's the vet's name and #?

It's "will underscore stock at yahoo dot com " if you don't want to post
online.
W. Leong - 11 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT
> Maybe we can help you out with the Vet bil. What's the vet's name and #?
>
> It's "will underscore stock at yahoo dot com " if you don't want to post
> online.

Thanks for the kind offer. The vet bill was taken care of.
Marina - 11 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT
> Now I feel drained and need something to calm me down. Rusty is very
> stressed too. It has been a rough long day.

Purrs to you both. Hope Rusty feels better soon.

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Adrian - 11 Mar 2006 09:16 GMT
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in
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>
> Thanks for all your purrs.

Purrs for you and Rusty, purrs for the blood results.
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Jeanne Hedge - 11 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
I'm glad to hear they've got a handle on Rusty's problem! Purrs for
him to feel better soon, and for both of you to be much less stressed
out!

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Susan M - 11 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
Thank you for the update!  I'm glad you took him in and got some
antibioitics and I'm so sorry it was so expensive:-(   It always amazes me
how much it costs to go to TED's.

Continued purrs for Rusty to feel better.

Susan M
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> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks for all your purrs.
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 12 Mar 2006 20:05 GMT
>Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
>did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Thanks for all your purrs.

I'm so glad you got him in and he will be okay.  Purrs for your stress
levels to go down.

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Suz - 12 Mar 2006 23:21 GMT
> Good thing I didn't wait to take Rusty to TED. We just got back. TED
> did a full urinary test and geriatric blood panel. There was blood in his
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks for all your purrs.

I'll have Spicey send some purrs North.
Suz&Spicey

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