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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2006Tinned tuna salad worries me.
I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of calories and fat in a pack of hot rods and fritos with cheese sauce. So I found some packs involving a tin of tuna salad and some crackers to eat it on. It was very tasty, but one thing concerned me today as I opened the tinned tuna salad... The tin was exactly the size and shape as the tin of Grilled Tuna Fancy Feast that I opened for kitties' breakfast this morning. --Fil > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > --Fil ROFL...I know *exactly* what you found (they sell for about $1 @ BigLots chains) for lunch....now that would only make *me* hungrier, and never hold me till the next meal (just a snack-size treat, it is), but I've tried it (canned tuna salad is not very tasty, but harmless to consume) and I don't think - at least I hope - the cat food canners have nothing to do with the name brand making those different-flavored little "snack" lunch things. BTW, the one that made me nervous was the "egg salad" one (canned egg salad? urk, I thought) but although bad-tasting, is also harmless. ....now that would only make *me* hungrier, and never hold > me till the next meal (just a snack-size treat, it is), When you put in a bunch of carrot sticks and a piece of cheese and a can of veggie juice, it's enough to keep me until the next class ends. I find I eat three mini-meals at school instead of a breakfast and a lunch. The challenge is to make the three mini-meals not add up to more than 900 calories, because I'm going to have a 500 calorie dinner and a 100 calorie cup of soy milk when I get home. My old mini-meal of a pack of hot rods, fritos and cheese sauce, and a pepsi, was 700 calories just by itself--and did nothing to give me any veggies or fruit. > BTW, the one that made me nervous was the "egg salad" one (canned > egg salad? urk, I thought) but although bad-tasting, is also harmless. I never saw egg salad...these are made by Clover Leaf, teh company that makes the tinned tuna. --Fil >The tin was exactly the size and shape as the tin of Grilled Tuna Fancy >Feast that I opened for kitties' breakfast this morning. And the Fancy Feast probably tastes just as good, too. So, whether you're feeding yourself or your cats, it doesn't really matter which you open. That way, you can really keep the moochers guessing; they won't know whether they're begging for your food or their own.  SignatureWayne M (indulged by Will and Heidi) > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The tin was exactly the size and shape as the tin of Grilled Tuna Fancy > Feast that I opened for kitties' breakfast this morning. LOL! Just be sure you look closely at the label before you start eating it! Although actually cat food is perfectly wholesome and wouldn't hurt you, it's just the idea of it. (I remember, back during the 1960's, being revolted by a couple of hipies sitting on a bench waiting for a bus - each with a can of dog food and a fork!) > --Fil >> I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also >> convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > revolted by a couple of hipies sitting on a bench waiting for a bus - each > with a can of dog food and a fork!) ROFL, Evelyn...that was long before the stereotype of old destitute folks eating cat food, right? I can't stand it any longer: *what* are "hot rods"? > ROFL, Evelyn...that was long before the stereotype of > old destitute folks eating cat food, right? > I can't stand it any longer: *what* are "hot rods"? A Hot Rod is a dried stick of pepperoni (I think) sausage, kind of like cylindrical jerky, made by Schneider's. There are also chicken ones. Delicious dipped in cheese sauce, but horribly fatty. --Fil >> ROFL, Evelyn...that was long before the stereotype of >> old destitute folks eating cat food, right? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > --Fil Suggestion. I used to bake lots of chicken drumsticks on the weekend then freeze them. For lunch I would take one drumstick, one small can of V-8 and make myself a cup of tea (Earl Grey). I didn't have a weight problem in those days. (Maybe I should go back to that routine,) MLB >> I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also >> convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > being revolted by a couple of hipies sitting on a bench waiting for a > bus - each with a can of dog food and a fork!) My niece routinely eats cat kibble as a treat. She is 17 and has been doing it most of her life. It doesn't seem to hurt her (in fact, it probably does less damage to her than it can do to a cat). I remember said niece tasting my cats' food once when she was around 3 or 4. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > My niece routinely eats cat kibble as a treat. She is 17 and has been > doing it most of her life. It doesn't seem to hurt her (in fact, it > probably does less damage to her than it can do to a cat). I remember said > niece tasting my cats' food once when she was around 3 or 4. > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. ROFL. That is the funniest thing I've seen all day. > My niece routinely eats cat kibble as a treat. She is 17 and has been > doing it most of her life. It doesn't seem to hurt her (in fact, it > probably does less damage to her than it can do to a cat). I remember > said niece tasting my cats' food once when she was around 3 or 4.// My cousins and I used to routinely eat dog Bonio biscuits as kids. We used to take one for the dog and steal one for us. They taste OK. Bit dry maybe... ;o) Helen M >> I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also >> convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > couple of hipies sitting on a bench waiting for a bus - each > with a can of dog food and a fork!) I had a recipe for homemade "cat food" which sounds like something I would dream of making for myself. Fillet of sole, broiled, flaked then served with a mild cheese sauce. I swear, I'd eat it with a side of linguini and a good white wine! Jill if you like that stuff try starkist version it has tuna in a can but separate is the mayonnaise and sweet relish comes with 5 crackers it is surround by a plastic cup that you mix it al altogether in. it became a regular meal during the hurricanes comes in a 3 pack version very tasty if you add some sweet mustard to it (my taste) > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > --Fil > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The tin was exactly the size and shape as the tin of Grilled Tuna > Fancy Feast that I opened for kitties' breakfast this morning. Just don't eat tuna every day. I've heard anecdotal stories of people losing their memory -- to the point that alzheimer's was suspected -- due to eating canned tuna as part of their daily diet. It's the mercury ... Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Just don't eat tuna every day. I've heard anecdotal stories of people > losing their memory -- to the point that alzheimer's was suspected -- > due to eating canned tuna as part of their daily diet. It's the > mercury ... I'd be more worried about the owners trying to make me give it back to them. Pam S. who likes tuna, on occasion, but still has to fight off a feline lineup...the little crooks Actually the just linked Alzheimer's to diabetes >> I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also >> convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > due to eating canned tuna as part of their daily diet. It's the > mercury ... > Actually the just linked Alzheimer's to diabetes I wasn't saying that mercury ingestion caused alzheimer's, just that it causes memory loss that can be mistaken for alzheimer's. How has it been linked to diabetes? Lots of people who have it don't have diabetes, I think. I've heard there might be a connection between cooking with aluminum pans and alzheimer's, but nothing conclusive. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca They just released the info recently I will have to look it up and post the link >> Actually the just linked Alzheimer's to diabetes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > between cooking with aluminum pans and alzheimer's, but nothing > conclusive. > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > --Fil As someone else here pointed out, you really shouldn't eat tuna every day. The mercury contained in it is not enough to hurt if you eat it once in a while (it metabolizes out of the body after a while), but if you let it build up day after day it can cause serious damage. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ The only thing about that there Catnipped is you walk outside and breath deep that is not good for you at all over a extended period of time but what choice do we have :-) >> I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also >> convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > while (it metabolizes out of the body after a while), but if you let it > build up day after day it can cause serious damage. > The only thing about that there Catnipped is you walk outside and > breath deep that is not good for you at all over a extended period > of time but what choice do we have :-) You don't have the choice to stop breathing, but most often you do have a choice of what foods to eat. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > The only thing about that there Catnipped is you walk outside and breath > deep that is not good for you at all over a extended period of time but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Hugs, >> CatNipped Yeah, everything's bad for you...from week to week different things...I will continue to drink coffee till my RB trip, thank you, whether I have that pesky gene or not. > As someone else here pointed out, you really shouldn't eat tuna every day. > The mercury contained in it is not enough to hurt if you eat it once in a > while (it metabolizes out of the body after a while), but if you let it > build up day after day it can cause serious damage. Interesting. Thanks for the info. I only eat tinned tuna about once a month. I will make a note to use these tuna lunches as occasional variety, not weekly staples. --Fil >As someone else here pointed out, you really shouldn't eat tuna every day. >The mercury contained in it is not enough to hurt if you eat it once in a >while (it metabolizes out of the body after a while), but if you let it >build up day after day it can cause serious damage. When I was a child I ate tuna sandwiches practically every day at school, which probably explains things. :) This was long before anyone thought of mercury in fish. I still eat tuna, but not nearly as often. > >As someone else here pointed out, you really shouldn't eat tuna every day. > >The mercury contained in it is not enough to hurt if you eat it once in a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > anyone thought of mercury in fish. I still eat tuna, but not nearly > as often. Anything but farm-raised fish is suspect as far as I am concerned, and you really never know about farm-raised, either. > I'm trying to find a variety of healthy, low-calorie but also > convenient lunches to take to school/work. I can't afford the ton of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > --Fil Gross. Could I ask why you have to buy things to take to work for lunch? why don't you make yourself some sandwiches or home made soup or something to take to work? What a waste of money to buy a load of rubbish to eat when you can make something far nicer yourself in ten minutes or less and much cheaper. Tweed > Gross. Could I ask why you have to buy things to take to work for lunch? > why don't you make yourself some sandwiches or home made soup or something > to take to work? What a waste of money to buy a load of rubbish to eat when > you can make something far nicer yourself in ten minutes or less and much > cheaper. Yes you can. It's because in my youth, I was severely allergic to wheat flour and I cannot convince myself that a sandwich is something pleasant to eat. I'm not allergic any more, but I still find the taste utterly disgusting in most cases. Same with donuts, cookies, cake, pretty much anything made of flour except pasta. If I do eat bread, it's the suiper white stuff. Dylan says it's tasteless--which, to me, is the point. Secondly, I'm trying to up my vegetable intake and minimize my meat and carb intake. I find it easiest to do that by getting frozen dinners with 2 servings of veggies in them. I know my calorie intake is less than 300 cals per dinner, I know I'm able to make my 5 veggie servings minimum per day, and I don't have to try to make things in the morning when I'm so dopy from waking up that I'm tripping into walls and knocking things off the counter. (it has nothing to do with not getting enough sleep--even after 12+ hours of sleep, I need a good 2 hours out of bed before I'm truly alert). (In the case of the tuna salad, I had carrot sticks with it to get my veggies). I actually find this way cheaper, since I'm not sneaking out to buy candy bars, pizza slices, and takeout dinner--I can usually find a package dinner that's half the price of buying food at the cafeteria, and half the calories too. I only go to school/work 3 days a week, so the other 4 days, I'm eating freshly cooked meals at home. I only eat frozen dinners/package dinners at school/work. --Fil > I'm so dopy from waking up that I'm tripping into walls and > knocking things off the counter. (it has nothing to do with not > getting enough sleep--even after 12+ hours of sleep, I need a good 2 > hours out of bed before I'm truly alert). This is off the main subject of this thread, but I had to comment on this. I hear ya!! I call the first two hours of each day my "semi-human" stage. I have to consume an entire pot of English Breakfast tea before I can have a civil conversation with anyone. Otherwise, I'm an insufferable grump, not to mention linguistically challenged. I won't even turn on my phone ringer before two hours have passed since I got out of bed. I didn't always used to be this way. I used to be a morning person who could bound out of bed and be wide awake immediately. I did drink coffee in those days, and had a mild addiction to it, but I didn't absolutely require it before I was fit to interact with my fellow humans. Now I wake up groggy - and like you, it doesn't matter how much sleep I've had. It usually takes at least half an hour before I can even sit up, unless something which requires immediate attention occurs, such as someone ringing my doorbell. Otherwise, I'm very slow. After I finally get myself into a sitting position, I will attempt to put on sweat pants and socks. But this can sometimes take a while, because in mid-dressing, I'll lapse into a brain-dead stupor and just sit there staring stupidly, until a cat comes in and meows at me or something. Then it's like, "Oh, yeah, time to put my *other* leg into the sweat pants now." I don't know if it's age, medication, my weird hours, or some other cause, but I sure miss the old days when I could be up and out of the house in 20 minutes! OK, now back to the regular discussion of disgusting foods. Joyce No that explains alot :-) t I sure miss the old days when I could be up and out of the > house in 20 minutes! > OK, now back to the regular discussion of disgusting foods. > Joyce If I was ever up and out in 20 minutes those who know me would know there had been brain surgery recently. I truly believe some people are "larks" (cheerfully up early, utter party-poops at evening parties, dead meat later than 11-ish) others are "owls"(as Joyce describes with variations early in day, feeling better and livelier as day wears on, 'rarin' to go at evening parties and late into the night); and some people are combos of these types. I am an owl, no question. Each has its advantages. After I finally > get myself into a sitting position, I will attempt to put on sweat pants > and socks. But this can sometimes take a while, because in mid-dressing, > I'll lapse into a brain-dead stupor and just sit there staring stupidly, > until a cat comes in and meows at me or something. Then it's like, "Oh, > yeah, time to put my *other* leg into the sweat pants now." I have done this ALL MY LIFE. The only time I didn't have to do this was the year I was writing my thesis, when I could follow the sleep pattern I wanted...go to bed between 3 am and dawn, wake up around noon. These days I actually miss out on a lot of evening events, because when I have to get up at 8 for class, by 9 pm I have no energy left and by 11 I'm sound asleep. Since most evening events dont' even get started until 10, and since it's an hour or two on the bus to get home from them, most often I dont' even bother. --Fil > I didn't always used to be this way. I used to be a morning person > who could bound out of bed and be wide awake immediately. I did [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Now I wake up groggy - and like you, it doesn't matter how much > sleep I've had. Sounds like the results of caffeine use to me. Caffeine stays in your system, causes poor sleep, and then you drink more caffeine to offset the poor sleep. It just keeps getting worse. I've done much better since I stopped self-medicating with caffeine. If I feel tired, I just slog through it, and overall I fall asleep more quickly, sleep better, and wake up better. But if I have any caffeine at all, I am wide awake all night. I just don't have a tolerance for it anymore. Keeps me honest. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Now I wake up groggy - and like you, it doesn't matter how much >> sleep I've had. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >caffeine at all, I am wide awake all night. I just don't have a >tolerance for it anymore. Keeps me honest. As I get older, I find myself more and more sensitive to caffeine. However, I still drink my coffee in the morning. Coffee at work, tea at home. Sometimes a diet coke at noon. After that, I cut off, because it'll keep me up all night. I can't even eat chocolate in the evenings because it keeps me up! But...this was a surprise to me. Have your iron checked! I used to fall asleep at inappropriate times, usually in meetings. My boss and I both suspected sleep apnea (especially after he was diagnosed) but it turned out to be iron! My hematocrit(?) was dangerously low. After months and months of iron pills, I'm at the bottom edge of normal, and I no longer fall asleep in meetings. Jane > But...this was a surprise to me. Have your iron checked! I used to > fall asleep at inappropriate times, usually in meetings. My boss and > I both suspected sleep apnea (especially after he was diagnosed) but > it turned out to be iron! My hematocrit(?) was dangerously low. > After months and months of iron pills, I'm at the bottom edge of > normal, and I no longer fall asleep in meetings. Interesting. I'm probably safe from that; I was on medication for years that kept me from having my period. You have to be careful with iron; as I recall, if you have too much in your blood, there's just not a whole lot they can do about it, and it can be fatal. Not typically a problem for women. I guess that's one condition where bleeding the person could actually help. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > You have to be careful with iron; as I recall, if you have too much in > your blood, there's just not a whole lot they can do about it, and it > can be fatal. Not typically a problem for women. I guess that's one > condition where bleeding the person could actually help. AApparently it was actually effective for "apoplexy" (aka high blood pressure), when bleeding was the standard treatment for most ills. (Including war wounds - as though the victim hadn't already lost more than enough blood - soldiers REALLY had to be tough to survive in those days!) .AApparently it was actually effective for "apoplexy" (aka > high blood pressure), when bleeding was the standard treatment for most > ills. (Including war wounds - as though the victim hadn't already lost > more than enough blood - soldiers REALLY had to be tough to survive in > those days!) Yes, if you want to read something really interesting AFA how far medical treatment has progressed, get ahold of something about medical care for combatants in USA Civil War. Interesting but don't snack while doing it. You'll be sorry you did. > Sounds like the results of caffeine use to me. Caffeine stays in your > system, causes poor sleep, and then you drink more caffeine to offset > the poor sleep. It just keeps getting worse. I don't usually drink caffeine, or rather, I constantly fight not to. Unfortunately, after about a week or so, there's a time when I have to be awake and alert to teach a class or write a paper and I can't get my work done without the caffeine boost. However, there's a difference between a can of pop each week, and the 10-cans-a-day habit I had in the military. --Fil > However, there's a difference between a can of pop each week, and > the 10-cans-a-day habit I had in the military. Yup. I made the mistake of having several sips from a large Dr. Pepper yesterday for lunch (I had a coupon that required me to buy a drink, so I actually got the drink for DH, but had a few sips, okay, large sips, myself -- I love Dr. Pepper). We were supposed to go skiing today, but I couldn't get to sleep in time to get up at 5am. (If we get past Boulder by 6am, there's significantly less traffic with which to contend.) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I used to be a morning person >> who could bound out of bed and be wide awake immediately. I did [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Now I wake up groggy - and like you, it doesn't matter how much >> sleep I've had. > Sounds like the results of caffeine use to me. Caffeine stays in your > system, causes poor sleep, and then you drink more caffeine to offset > the poor sleep. It just keeps getting worse. Except that I had a much worse caffeine addiction back in the days when I used to get up early and bound out of bed! I used to drink several cups of high-test coffee per day. I now drink tea, which is also addictive, but I think it contains less caffeine than coffee. At least, it doesn't have the same effect. I can't tolerate caffeinated coffee - it makes me anxious, jittery, and disturbs my sleep, whereas I have been known to fall asleep promptly after having a cup of caffeinated tea. No, I think it's a combination of age and medication. Joyce > No, I think it's a combination of age and medication. Well, you certainly know yourself better than I do! It was just a thought. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Gross. Could I ask why you have to buy things to take to work for >> lunch? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > freshly cooked meals at home. I only eat frozen dinners/package > dinners at school/work. I was just hoping to save you some money! We have a microwave oven at work and a toaster. Sometimes I take a large potato and microwave it. I take a little bit of butter, maybe some cheese slices to melt inside it, and a bit of salad to serve on the side. Some of my colleagues will go to a local cafe and buy the same thing, and it costs a fortune. Or maybe I will take two pieces of bread to toast and a tin of sardines or pilchards to put on top (tin of sardines, 20 pence, pilchards 27p.) Best is home made soup. I chuck everything in, tin of tomatoes, fresh carrots, parsnips, frozen spinach, a few brussels sprouts, diced potato, left over gravy and sometimes dive into the freezer to get out a few slices of cooked meat to go in which improves it. I always add a chopped onion. Then I add a crushed garlic clove and a sprinkling of dried chilli flakes. Boil it for 20 mins, let it cool and then whizz it in my blender. I get 2-3 days lunches from this. All the veggies I need, served up with a couple of slices of seeded wholemeal bread to dip in. I'm not at my best in the morning, either. I am almost unconscious when I have to get up at 6.45, but I can rouse myself enough to make a little cheap and cheerful lunch to save my bank account! Tweed > of sardines, 20 pence, pilchards 27p.) Best is home made soup. I > chuck everything in, tin of tomatoes, fresh carrots, parsnips, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > need, served up with a couple of slices of seeded wholemeal bread to > dip in. I'm not at my best in the morning, either. I am almost This sounds delicious. I've actually come up with a tasty soup recipe that requires no fresh ingredients. Ideally, I would use fresh ingredients, but sometimes I don't feel like going to the grocery ... I take a big pot and put in two cans of chicken broth and a can of some kind of tomatoes (stewed, diced, crushed, whatever's on hand). I put in a can of chicken (rinsed, though, or it's way too salty). Then I add in whatever frozen and/or fresh veggies I have on hand, usually including variously colored bell peppers. I add as much water as seems reasonable, then toss in some barley and let the whole thing simmer for about an hour, adding water as necessary (that might not be needed in a more humid climate). I love barley in my soup on cold days. I have some great chili recipes with fresh ingredients, but chili takes a long time. My favorite recipe ends up taking about two hours of preparation and 4-5 hours of simmering. One time I got distracted and ended up burning the bottom in the last half hour. Groan. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I was just hoping to save you some money! We have a microwave oven at work > and a toaster. Sometimes I take a large potato and microwave it. I take a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > have to get up at 6.45, but I can rouse myself enough to make a little cheap > and cheerful lunch to save my bank account! Oh, no offense taken at all! I know myself...sometimes trying to save me /more/ ends up saving me /less/ as warm (and expensive) chinese becomes so much more appealing than the dry sandwich in my bag *l* I'm thinking $4 for my entire lunch isn't bad, considering it's about $6-8 to buy it at school. That soup sounds pretty good though...tin of tomatos, all the veggies I can find...do you need any kind of stock, like chicken stock or veggie, to form a "base?" My mom gave me a blender and I ought to start using it. --Fil > That soup sounds pretty good though...tin of tomatos, all the > veggies I can find...do you need any kind of stock, like chicken > stock or veggie, to form a "base?" My mom gave me a blender and I > ought to start using it. Great use for a blender: mashed up bananas unsweetened cocoa powder milk Blend and enjoy! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I'm not at my best in the morning, either. I am almost unconscious when I >> have to get up at 6.45, but I can rouse myself enough to make a little >> cheap > That soup sounds pretty good though...tin of tomatos, all the veggies I > can find...do you need any kind of stock, like chicken stock or veggie, > to form a "base?" My mom gave me a blender and I ought to start using it. Yes, it's much nicer if you use a stock of some kind. It depends if you are a vegetarian or not. If you aren't and have had a meat meal with gravy, make extra for your soup. You can use stock cubes but it's not as good. Except if they are Knorr stock cubes which are brilliant. Throw everything in, peas, all left over vegs, half tin chick peas add veg from freezer like leeks if you want. It's tastes nicer for a non veggie if it has some meat\gravy blended in. You could live on this soup if you had to. Have a go at using your blender for soups, unless you prefer to eat soups chunky which I do sometimes. Tweed
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