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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
was going to get this one! I thought I had connected well with everyone,
including the hiring manager. They seemed pleased with my skills and
with my presentation of myself. But... <sigh> I guess you can't always
tell by how people behave toward you what they're really thinking.

It's a mixed disappointment/blessing, actually. On one hand, the company
is 50 miles (80 km) away from where I live. And I LOVE where I live, so
I'm not moving! The rush hour is brutal, so I would have wanted to start
work a little later to avoid the rush. They're pretty flexible about such
things in most high-tech companies I've worked in, so that wouldn't have
been a problem. But that would mean staying later in the evening, and
getting home at 8 or 9 PM. This would have made a serious dent in my
social life, since most people start their evening activities much
earlier than that. (Buncha wimps! :)) So I'd love to find a job much
closer to home if I can - but I'm going to take whatever I get at a
reasonable salary. The obvious downside to this is that I am pretty
broke and I now have no prospects!

So now it's back to the drawing board. But first I'm going to nurse a
little self-pity (with pasta & meat sauce, cheese, and garlic bread :))
before dusting myself off and starting again.

Thanks for listening...

Joyce
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MaryL - 02 Mar 2006 05:41 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce

Hi Joyce,

That is really a rough situation.  However, I want to reassure you that you
may *not* have misinterpreted the impression you left with the search team.
It may be that you were simply up against someone else who left an equally
good -- or possibly better -- impression and who had skills who more closely
matched exactly what they are seeking.  We are going through a search
process right now.  We have been interviewing candidates for a faculty
position and listening to sample lectures and research presentations.  I
have gone through this process a great many times through the years and have
served on a large number of search committees.  We frequently have *several*
suitable candidates who would fill our needs admirably, yet we have to
narrow the pool down to only one selection.  So, don't automatically assume
that you failed to connect with the right people.  It must be a frustrating
and daunting experience to be rejected after you seemed to do well in the
interview, but this is a time when there are often numerous applicants (we
had *86* applications for the last faculty position when I chaired the
search committee).  Keep a positive attitude and try not to be discouraged.

MaryL
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Takayuki - 02 Mar 2006 06:19 GMT
>We frequently have *several*
>suitable candidates who would fill our needs admirably, yet we have to
>narrow the pool down to only one selection.

I agree with this.  Sometimes there are several candidates that are
good, and it almost becomes a coin toss.  Also, as a recruiter, you
usually don't want to narrow the pool down to only one candidate, but
want some alternatives.  In that case, it becomes a matter of subtle
differences that determines the order in which the candidates are made
offers.  To improve your chances, try to appear as eager for the job
as possible.  If they think there's a good chance that you would take
the job offer and want to stay afterwards, they'll take your
application that much more seriously.
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Marina - 02 Mar 2006 05:41 GMT
> So now it's back to the drawing board. But first I'm going to nurse a
> little self-pity (with pasta & meat sauce, cheese, and garlic bread :))
> before dusting myself off and starting again.

I'm sorry you didn't get the job, but maybe there's an even better one
waiting around the corner (hopefully literally around the corner ;)).
Purrs on the way.

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Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 02 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT
Joyce can I tell you a secret about an interview.  It is not always you
1 be aggressive 2 look them in the eyes 3 don't be afraid to ask questions
but you know all these things right

Here is the other half I am a corporate boss.  When you met the person and
you do all the right things  how did they react.  If they have that big
smart looking grin  it means they are not interested in the interview
process itself.  If they avert their eyes and talk to you distant like  they
already found some one.  You might have done a great interview but the
person doing the interview may have not been on the same page that you
needed them to be.

Something good to read is in the military section of a book store it is
reading and understanding human body language.

In person give me a few minutes of me talking to you I will know what type
of person you are.  I have done interviews where the person presented great
but their body language gave them away.  It is interesting reading

A job will come along just like your cat god did it will rear it's head up
and tell you I am here to stay.  I am sorry this one did not go well.   Now
you made me hungry at 12:45am I got the craving for garlic bread and
spaghetti now sheezsh! ;-) Honey break out the pepcid

But good luck Joyce
Purrs for the perrrfeecctt  job

>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce
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Takayuki - 02 Mar 2006 06:36 GMT
"Matthew AKA NMR \( NO MORE RETAIL \)" <10 points a troll
@linethetrollsup.com> wrote:
>In person give me a few minutes of me talking to you I will know what type
>of person you are.  I have done interviews where the person presented great
>but their body language gave them away.  It is interesting reading

It's also important to keep in mind that there are jobs for which this
wouldn't apply, particularly some technical jobs.

An illustrative example is that of a musician.  If you try out for a
position on the Boston Symphony, you're required to play for the
hiring committee while you're *sitting behind a screen*.  They
deliberately remove body language and other variables, because what
matters is how you play, not how you look.

Depending on the position, technical managers may similarly choose to
keep their hiring criteria technically relevant and objective.
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Takayuki - 02 Mar 2006 06:15 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
>interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
>was going to get this one! I thought I had connected well with everyone,
>including the hiring manager. They seemed pleased with my skills and
>with my presentation of myself. But... <sigh> I guess you can't always
>tell by how people behave toward you what they're really thinking.

I do hope you find a job soon, Joyce!  I think that technology work
has picked up a bit.
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Adrian - 02 Mar 2006 09:59 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce

I'm sorry you didn't get the job, hopefully something better will soon turn
up. Consoling purrs.
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badwilson - 02 Mar 2006 10:49 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the job, Joyce.  Keep trying and purrs for you
to find something soon.
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> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce
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Victor Martinez - 02 Mar 2006 12:11 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I

I'm sorry to hear that. :(

> Thanks for listening...

We're purring for something better (and closer) to come along very fast!

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Mar 2006 12:46 GMT
Thanks for all the encouragement and purrs! I'm feeling a bit
better now, and I think I'll be able to start off tomorrow with
a more positive attitude. I just had to get over my disappointment.
This one definitely has a silver lining, though - at least now I
can continue to look for jobs within a more reasonable distance!

Joyce
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Irulan - 02 Mar 2006 14:08 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce
Hang in there, Joyce. You'll find exactly what you want pretty soon. We
are purring and praying for you.
Lily & her mama
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Christina Websell - 02 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
> was going to get this one!

I'm sorry you didn't get the job if it was one that you wanted, although
travelling so far to work isn't ideal as you pointed out.  Travelling to and
from my workplace adds an hour and a half on to my working day.
Here's purring that you will soon find something nearer home with hours to
suit.

Tweed
P.S.  KFC asked me to enquire why Licky did not send her a Valentine
message..this is not the way to impress his very first girlfriend ;-)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Mar 2006 09:08 GMT
> P.S.  KFC asked me to enquire why Licky did not send her a Valentine
> message..this is not the way to impress his very first girlfriend ;-)

Ooops... umm... he was hiding under the bed?

Actually, he's not that bad. He only hides under the bed when someone
comes over or I sneeze in the direction of the vacuum cleaner.

Despite his handsome looks, I have to admit he's not a particularly
romantic kind of guy. But he does send his apologies! I guess Her Majesty
is not amused by his neglect?

Oh, wait - here he is! He just walked in and mewed at me with his
forlorn little cry. Whoops, he just left again. I think he knows
something's up.

Joyce
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Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Mar 2006 17:55 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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> can't always tell by how people behave toward you what they're
> really thinking.

*hug* Joyce

If you got a good vibe, you probably had a good vibe, presented
yourself well, and did everything right.  They probably liked you just
fine.

They may have had another candidate they were considering, and while
they really liked you, the other candidate edged you out by a
noselength.  Or maybe they knew about your commute and were hoping to
have someone who could drive into work on short notice.  You never
know.

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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 02 Mar 2006 18:57 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
>interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
>Joyce

{{{{Joyce}}}}

I'm so sorry.  Maybe this just wasn't the right one, and the Right One
will come along shortly!  In the meanwhile, enjoy your pasta :-)

Ginger-lyn

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Sam - 03 Mar 2006 04:03 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
<sniipped>

> Thanks for listening...
>
> Joyce
Purrs that the purrfect job comes up soon within easy commuting distance.

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Susan M - 03 Mar 2006 04:19 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
> was going to get this one! I thought I had connected well with everyone,
> including the hiring manager. They seemed pleased with my skills and
> with my presentation of myself. But... <sigh> I guess you can't always
> tell by how people behave toward you what they're really thinking.

{{{{Joyce}}}}   I'm sorry that you were disappointed about not getting this
job.  Here are purrs and good thoughts for you to find something great and
close to where you live SOON.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
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CatNipped - 03 Mar 2006 17:02 GMT
>I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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>
> Joyce

{{{{{{{{{{Joyce}}}}}}}}}}  Maybe this just wasn't the perfect job you
deserve to have - purrs that the perfect job will come along soon.

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Shiral - 03 Mar 2006 20:27 GMT
I'm sorry to hear you didn't get the job, Joyce.  That's disappointing.
But I think you've got the right attitude about treating yourself well,
then starting anew on the job search.  But at least you don't have the
brutal drive to look forward to.

Melissa
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polonca12000 - 03 Mar 2006 21:52 GMT
> I just got word today that I was NOT offered a job for which I
> interviewed (for several hours) yesterday. And I really thought I
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> I'm not moving! <snip>
> Joyce

I'm so sorry to hear you didn't get the job, Joyce, but I think it's a
good sign that you almost got it. I'm sure some other job is waiting for
you and you'll find it really soon.
Hugs and purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
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