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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2006Another good argument for indoor only
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate an infected bird. Chak  SignatureIn science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. --Stephen Jay Gould > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate an > infected bird. Wow, that's really scary! Not only because of the risk to the cat, but because of the risk to us, as well. The article did say that nothing suggests that cats can transmit the virus to humans, but this virus seems to do a good job of jumping species, and also of mutating. So even if it can't be spread to humans from cats right now, it could acquire that ability sometime in the future. Which would make cats a potential vector. Joyce The new Black Death of Europe > > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html > > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce > > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html > > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Joyce It's been known for some time that cats were susceptible, a couple of years ago some tigers in Thailand died from the H5N1 virus. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > It's been known for some time that cats were susceptible, a couple > of years ago some tigers in Thailand died from the H5N1 virus. But apparently this is the first domestic cat. (Maybe? Not sure.) If it is, then it's another level of threat to humans, because most people have far more contact with domestic cats than with tigers. Joyce > > It's been known for some time that cats were susceptible, a couple > > of years ago some tigers in Thailand died from the H5N1 virus. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce I understood, it was the first domestic cat in _Europe_ and that many cats died in S E Asia, though in most cases these went unreported. I do remember reading, when the tigers died that _all_ cats were susceptible. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >> > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html >> > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's been known for some time that cats were susceptible, a couple of > years ago some tigers in Thailand died from the H5N1 virus. That wasn't a couple of years ago, that was this past November and they died 3 days after I had just been there. Scary! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html >>> > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > That wasn't a couple of years ago, that was this past November and > they died 3 days after I had just been there. Scary! I must be getting old, it seamed a lot longer ago than that. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I must be getting old, it seamed a lot longer ago than that. You must be getting young. When you get old, it seems like things that happened a decade ago were just last month. Chak SignatureIn science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. --Stephen Jay Gould > to do a good job of jumping species, and also of mutating. So even if it > can't be spread to humans from cats right now, it could acquire that > ability sometime in the future. Which would make cats a potential vector. I read the real danger is for pigs to get this disease, because they also get the common human flu. If a pig gets both virii at the same time, they can exchange genetic material and *then* it can become a human pandemic. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com "Victor Martinez" <me@nospam.com> wrote in message > I read the real danger is for pigs to get this disease, because they > also get the common human flu. If a pig gets both virii at the same > time, they can exchange genetic material and *then* it can become a > human pandemic. Yet another confirmation for me... Nature is PERFECT.... If we are being set up for a world wide pandemic. It's because WE are becoming too large a problem. Mother Nature can't find any other solution than to take us down on mass. If H5N1 mutates to humans (&I know this sounds cold) it's the planet's version of an antibiotic to fight off a virulent infection....us. SignatureMathew Butler to 3 cats: Chablis, Muscat & Sage En Vino Veritas > mass. If H5N1 mutates to humans (&I know this sounds cold) it's the planet's > version of an antibiotic to fight off a virulent infection....us. You may be right. :( We are a most irresponsible species. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html > > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate an > infected bird. > > Chak yep! i have my cats and my bird inside. > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8785.html > > It seems cats can catch bird flu. It's suspected that the cat ate an > infected bird. I saw that on the news last night. This might mean I can't take the cats to the island this year. And I was so looking forward to seeing how Caliban would react. There have been no cases of bird flu in Finland as yet, but it is assumed that it will come with the migrating birds in spring. There were a couple of cases in Sweden, so it's not far off. :o/ SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > I saw that on the news last night. This might mean I can't take the > cats to the island this year. And I was so looking forward to seeing > how Caliban would react. There have been no cases of bird flu in > Finland as yet, but it is assumed that it will come with the migrating > birds in spring. There were a couple of cases in Sweden, so it's not > far off. :o/ It's already having some horrible fallout. The NYTimes reports that some Germans are leaving cats at shelters for fear of bird flu: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/03/health/03cats.html?pagewanted=print (quote) Hundreds of Germans have left their cats at shelters since the country recorded the first case in the European Union of a cat dying of bird flu, the animal welfare society said Thursday. "Nationwide, several hundred cats have been left with us," said a spokesman for the group, Jan Pfeifer. "People are scared their cats have bird flu." (end quote) The article makes it sound like they're brining in cats in droves, but even if it's only a few, it's still sad. Chak SignatureIn science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. --Stephen Jay Gould Mass hysteria is a powerful thing Stupid people!!!! ARRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!! Stupid people for getting hepped up. Probably due to stupid media who make this thing sound like it is already a disease of Pandemic proportions. GRRRRRRR. > > I saw that on the news last night. This might mean I can't take the > > cats to the island this year. And I was so looking forward to seeing [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Chak > Hundreds of Germans have left their cats at shelters since the country > recorded the first case in the European Union of a cat dying of bird > flu, the animal welfare society said Thursday. > "Nationwide, several hundred cats have been left with us," said a > spokesman for the group, Jan Pfeifer. "People are scared their cats have > bird flu." (end quote) That's awful. Couldn't they just decide to keep the cats indoors instead? I know that in Europe, people are more likely to let their cats go outside than we are in the US, but what would be so terrible about changing habits if it's necessary? Joyce
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