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Fat Freddy - 30 Sep 2004 15:58 GMT We will be travelling for about two weeks in December and our three cats will have to go to a boarding kennel. It almost brings me to tears thinking about this because I know they will be so unhappy, but it's the only option.
They are inside/outside cats and love to go out at night to hunt in the creek bed behind the house, or to spend the day laying in the sun in the garden. I can't bear to think of them in cages among strangers.
Would it help to introduce them gradually to the new environment? I'm thinking of maybe taking them for an overnight stay, then a couple of days, then maybe four or five days, before their two week stay in December. Maybe they would realize that their incarceration was only temporary and we would be coming back for them. Or is that just wishful thinking?
If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate it.
Karen - 30 Sep 2004 18:14 GMT You know, I'd say that isn't a bad idea if the kennel let's you. That way it's not TOTALLY unknown. Wow. 2 weeks is a long time. I'm sure they will be fine, but I totally understand.
> We will be travelling for about two weeks in December and our three > cats will have to go to a boarding kennel. It almost brings me to tears [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate > it. Dan M - 30 Sep 2004 18:17 GMT > Would it help to introduce them gradually to the new environment? I'm > thinking of maybe taking them for an overnight stay, then a couple of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate > it. I think that would be an excellent idea. Getting acclimated to the environment definitrely might make the stay easier.
You might also want to leave them with a towel, t-shirt, or something similar that has your smell on it.
Steve Touchstone - 30 Sep 2004 19:24 GMT >I think that would be an excellent idea. Getting acclimated to the >environment definitrely might make the stay easier. > >You might also want to leave them with a towel, t-shirt, or something >similar that has your smell on it. I'd agree with that, even a favorite pillow, or towel that they like napping on. I've mentioned before that I leave the carriers out, and the cats frequently choose them for napping spots. Well, not Rocky, I think he has a phobia about being shut in after his hot afternoon stuck in a neighbor's trap set for a possum. Rock doesn't even play with bags or boxes. Anyway, what I was going to say is that when I take Sammy for rides she views her carrier and pink beach towel and a "safe" spot to retreat to if she's not sure of something. If your crew has something similiar, or even favorite toys, if wouldn't hurt to take them along to the cattery. As I type this I'm remembering that your guys spend a lot of time outside and may not have favorite blankies and such, but hey if they do it might help.
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jmcquown - 01 Oct 2004 10:23 GMT >> Would it help to introduce them gradually to the new environment? I'm >> thinking of maybe taking them for an overnight stay, then a couple of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You might also want to leave them with a towel, t-shirt, or something > similar that has your smell on it. When I board Persia I take a knitted afghan that she sleeps on here at home (and I wrap up in for naps on the sofa). They informed me she ignores the afghan. She yells (loudly) for them to change the litter in her box in the cage and then sleeps in the litterbox! Stinker.
Jill
Jo Firey - 30 Sep 2004 19:17 GMT > We will be travelling for about two weeks in December and our three > cats will have to go to a boarding kennel. It almost brings me to tears [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate > it. They are going to be fairly unhappy, and I don't see how an advance taste would be any help. That said, we board our cats when we go anywhere. I don't trust anyone else to keep an eye on them at home. They like to go out and can be hard to get back in.
I just make sure to find the most secure interesting place available to board them. Here it is a vet across the river that has a soundproof cat room with a picture window and fairly large cages. So the cats don't hear the animals being treated or the dogs barking. And they all have a nice view across the parking lot to a park and lake beyond. There will be times when you must go places and can't include the cats. Might as well get them and you used to it now.
And the worst thing that has ever happened to any of ours while boarding, is our first Siamese used to come home with laryngitis.
They all are so happy to get home, they forgive us sooner rather than later.
Jo
Jumi & Shirley Butler - 30 Sep 2004 20:16 GMT When my Rexie was just about 8 mos old we went on vacation for a week and a half and had to board him. During the week it's only him and me in the house, so he's not used to outsiders, and he's strictly an indoor cat. I "Day-Boarded" (they charge only $5 to drop off in the a.m. and pick up p.m.) him at the kennel by my house 3 or 4 times before we went, and left him overnight once.
When we got back, he was fine. they have a "cat room", and every hour they take one cat out of its cage and let it play with toys on the floor for about 20 minutes. She told me Rex spent most of his 20 minutes going from cage to cage and "talking" to the other cats.
When he goes now (not often), he's not happy to get in his carrier and go in the car, but once at the kennel, he's fine.
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~We will be travelling for about two weeks in December and our three ~cats will have to go to a boarding kennel. It almost brings me to tears ~thinking about this because I know they will be so unhappy, but it's ~the only option. ~ ~They are inside/outside cats and love to go out at night to hunt in the ~creek bed behind the house, or to spend the day laying in the sun in ~the garden. I can't bear to think of them in cages among strangers. ~ ~Would it help to introduce them gradually to the new environment? I'm ~thinking of maybe taking them for an overnight stay, then a couple of ~days, then maybe four or five days, before their two week stay in ~December. Maybe they would realize that their incarceration was only ~temporary and we would be coming back for them. Or is that just wishful ~thinking? ~ ~If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate ~it.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 30 Sep 2004 20:34 GMT >They are inside/outside cats and love to go out at night to hunt in the >creek bed behind the house, or to spend the day laying in the sun in >the garden. I can't bear to think of them in cages among strangers. Well, don't know what the place is like where you will be leaving your cats, but the place I use is great. Each cat pen has a heated indoor private area plus a secure outside "run", so the cats can be effectively indoor and outdoor - but always secure. Plus they have scratch posts, toys, seats, raised areas...
See
http://www.roundacres.co.uk/
My three love it there!
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Steve Touchstone - 30 Sep 2004 21:09 GMT >Well, don't know what the place is like where you will be leaving your cats, >but the place I use is great. Each cat pen has a heated indoor private area [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >My three love it there! That place looks like a purrfect kitty palace. One of the kitties on the accomadation page even looks like LB
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Marina - 01 Oct 2004 05:11 GMT > Well, don't know what the place is like where you will be leaving your cats, > but the place I use is great. Each cat pen has a heated indoor private area [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > My three love it there! What a lovely cat hotel! Frank approves that Waffles is offered such luxury whenever her usual slave has to take a break. ;o)
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JBHajos - 01 Oct 2004 14:15 GMT >Well, don't know what the place is like where you will be leaving your cats, >but the place I use is great. What a terrific place to board your kitties! I'd never had to do it until we went to Best Friends sanctuary for a couple of weeks last spring. When I inspected the boarding facilities at our regular vet clinic, I was appalled at the conditions. No way in blazes would I let our Hobo stay there!! While not so "luxurious" as yours, the one I found was 150% better - condos instead of skimpy cages, a TLC room full of toys, cubby-holes, cat trees, etc., where he'd be taken for playtime during the day, vet care for his diabetes, and the selling point for me was they had someone on the premises to monitor during the night as well as day time.
Jeanne
Christine Burel - 30 Sep 2004 20:35 GMT I've got an idea -- what about a housesitter while you're gone? Then both your house and your pets will be watched over. You might be able to get contacts via your vet and/or local rescue groups or even see if petsitters are listed in the phone book that you could check out. Hope this helps, Christine
> We will be travelling for about two weeks in December and our three > cats will have to go to a boarding kennel. It almost brings me to tears [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If anyone has any suggestions to make this easier, I would appreciate > it. jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Sep 2004 22:41 GMT General question about this issue: is it cheaper to board animals than it is to have a petsitter come to your house to take care of them? I would probably pay a petsitter $15/visit (US currency of course), and I'd have them come once a day. Or, if I were very short on cash, once every other day. So if I were gone 10 days, that would be either $75 or $150 for the whole thing. Would a kennel be cheaper than that?
I ask because it seems like a lot of people board their pets. I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious why people choose that rather than a petsitter, unless it's that petsitters cost a lot more and they can't afford them.
Actually, I rarely pay for a petsitter, as I have several good friends in my area, and they come over for free. If I'm going away for more than a few days, I ask several folks to do it, so that each person only has to come over once or twice. That way, I'm not asking too much of any one individual. Seems to work pretty well. I also take care of my friends' pets when they're away, so it's a mutual thing.
Joyce
Jo Firey - 30 Sep 2004 23:08 GMT > General question about this issue: is it cheaper to board animals than > it is to have a petsitter come to your house to take care of them? I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce Using a kennel is a LOT more expensive here, especially if you have several pets. My problem is I prefer to have my house locked up tight when I'm gone. Also would not want family of friends to feel responsible if something bad were to happen to one of the pets. Our cats go out when we are home, which I'm not crazy about (they are however) and I don't trust someone else to deal with a problem that can cause.
Then the dog is ancient and on medication. If she doesn't have us to keep an eye on her, then she needs to be at the vet.
Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Sep 2004 23:35 GMT > My problem is I prefer to have my house locked up tight when I'm gone. I see. I guess I feel safer knowing that people *are* coming over, because if something is awry, the visitor will see it and then I'll find out about it sooner. Also, if someone were casing my place, knowing I was away, they'd see people coming and going, and would be less likely to try to break in.
> Also would not want family of friends to feel responsible if > something bad were to happen to one of the pets. Well, that's a good point. One thing I do to try to mitigate that is to leave as much contact info as possible, so that if anything happens that they don't know what to do about, they could call me for guidance, or in case of a severe emergency, I could cut my trip short if at all possible, and come right back.
One time, one of my catsitters was here and she had a friend with her (a mutual friend, someone I also trusted). Smudge got out while one of them was standing in the doorway chatting (not a smart move, but a lot of people do it - you have to have the right instincts when you have a "flight risk" cat). So they had to follow her downstairs, where she ran under a parked car and huddled under it. They managed, after quite a struggle, to drag her out, but she was so freaked that she scratched, bit, and peed on one of my friends. That friend had to go to the doctor and get antibiotics for the bite.
Since these are very close friends as well as cat lovers, I don't feel that I imposed on them unfairly. I did pay for the doctor visit, and fortunately, her bite didn't get any worse. If I were caring for a friend's cat and it got out, I'd do the same thing they did. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't feel it's an imposition on me to be responsible for someone else's animal, within reason, and I don't think my friends feel that way, either.
Maybe it's just that most of my friends are animal lovers, so they understand what they're getting into and they care what happens to my pets. Vice versa, too!
> Then the dog is ancient and on medication. If she doesn't have us > to keep an eye on her, then she needs to be at the vet. Now this I totally understand. Right now, my cats are all relatively young (the oldest is 7), and all are in good health, so nobody I ask to take care of them needs to do more than give them canned food, top off the dry food and water, and scoop the litter. If it came to medication, fluids, or anything more complicated, I'd have to find a professional sitter who could administer meds. Or, I'd have to board them. Guess I'll deal with that when the time comes!
Joyce
Jeanette - 01 Oct 2004 09:29 GMT > General question about this issue: is it cheaper to board animals than > it is to have a petsitter come to your house to take care of them? I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > petsitter, unless it's that petsitters cost a lot more and they can't > afford them. I board my cats because I think it's safer.
a) Most petsitters in my area are one-woman businesses. If they fall ill or are otherwise unable to visit, then my cats are in trouble. The local boarding kennels have assistants to help with the work.
b) My cats are quite timid with strangers, and don't tend to come in when called anyway. If they were at home I would be worried that they'd go out and refuse to come back in again. The cattery pens have 'airlock' systems with a safety corridor, and the cats are kept safely within the pens.
Jeanette
Fat Freddy - 01 Oct 2004 20:06 GMT > General question about this issue: is it cheaper to board animals than > it is to have a petsitter come to your house to take care of them? I > would probably pay a petsitter $15/visit (US currency of course), and > I'd have them come once a day. Or, if I were very short on cash, once > every other day. So if I were gone 10 days, that would be either $75 or > $150 for the whole thing. Would a kennel be cheaper than that? IIt will cost us $30.00 a day for our three cats at the boarding kennel. I would much rather have somebody come to the house to feed them and clean the litter boxes. But it wouldn't work with our cats as they would tear the house apart trying to get outside.
During the day, I usually leave the door ajar so they can come in and out as they please, but we couldn't do that if we were gone. I thought about putting in a cat door, but if we did, the house would be taken over by cats from all over the neighborhood who are always trying to get in, not to mention the dozen or so raccoons who visit two or three times a week.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Oct 2004 00:04 GMT > I thought > about putting in a cat door, but if we did, the house would be taken > over by cats from all over the neighborhood who are always trying to > get in, not to mention the dozen or so raccoons who visit two or three > times a week. THAT would be something to come home to - yikes!!
Joyce
Steve Touchstone - 02 Oct 2004 04:17 GMT <snip>
>During the day, I usually leave the door ajar so they can come in and >out as they please, but we couldn't do that if we were gone. I thought >about putting in a cat door, but if we did, the house would be taken >over by cats from all over the neighborhood who are always trying to >get in, not to mention the dozen or so raccoons who visit two or three >times a week. ROTFLMAO
That reminds me of the litter commercial where the cat is left home alone and has a party
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O J - 02 Oct 2004 14:48 GMT >>During the day, I usually leave the door ajar so they can come in and >>out as they please, but we couldn't do that if we were gone. I thought >>about putting in a cat door, but if we did, the house would be taken >>over by cats from all over the neighborhood who are always trying to >>get in, not to mention the dozen or so raccoons who visit two or three >>times a week.
>ROTFLMAO > >That reminds me of the litter commercial where the cat is left home >alone and has a party That happened to a cow orker of mine from NY. He had a cat door and came home one day to the neighborhood cats having a party in his kitchen. They were doing one of those 'kaffee klatsch' things that cats will sometimes do, just sitting in a circle and visiting with each other.
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Nan - 02 Oct 2004 18:27 GMT >>>During the day, I usually leave the door ajar so they can come in and >>>out as they please, but we couldn't do that if we were gone. I thought [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Regards and Purrs, >O J (Old John) Gritmon What's a "cow orker"? LOL --
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 02 Oct 2004 19:22 GMT >What's a "cow orker"? LOL Someone who orks a cow. Obvious, innit ;-)
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O J - 02 Oct 2004 20:26 GMT >What's a "cow orker"? It's an inside joke from another newsgroup that could best be described as a bunch of recalcitrant iconoclastic nitpickers. They also pride themselves on the misspelling of certain words and woe betide the newcomer who seeks to point one of these out as an error.
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Nan - 02 Oct 2004 21:08 GMT >>What's a "cow orker"? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Retards and Purrs, >O J Sorry, I couldn't resist asking. --
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Jeanette - 03 Oct 2004 00:37 GMT > >What's a "cow orker"? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Retards and Purrs, > O J It's been around as long as I remember being on Usenet ... at least 14 years. It's a mis-spelling of co-worker.
Jeanette
Yoj - 03 Oct 2004 03:42 GMT > >What's a "cow orker"? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Retards and Purrs, > O J I suspect that group got it from the "Dilbert" comic strip. At least that term is used in the Dilbert newsletter.
Joy
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Oct 2004 09:38 GMT >>What's a "cow orker"?
> It's an inside joke from another newsgroup that could best be > described as a bunch of recalcitrant iconoclastic nitpickers. In other words, insufferable pedantic geeks? :)
Would these be the same people who like to use the word "smoe" (a typo for "some")? At some point, somebody created a domain, smoe.org, and a bunch of websites were hosted on it.
Joyce
Marina - 03 Oct 2004 09:57 GMT > > On Sat, 02 Oct, Nan wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > typo for "some")? At some point, somebody created a domain, smoe.org, > and a bunch of websites were hosted on it. Oh, I prefer 'soem'. :o)
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Jeanette - 03 Oct 2004 10:03 GMT > > On Sat, 02 Oct, Nan wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > In other words, insufferable pedantic geeks? :) OI! We insufferable pedantic geeks need love too, you know? We can't help it, it's hardwired into us. I can find typos in seconds, they leap off the page at me and make me want to scream.
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Seanette Blaylock - 03 Oct 2004 10:29 GMT "Jeanette" <vertgyn@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Leaving Cats:
>OI! We insufferable pedantic geeks need love too, you know? We can't help >it, it's hardwired into us. I can find typos in seconds, they leap off the >page at me and make me want to scream. I have that problem too.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Oct 2004 10:51 GMT > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message >> >> In other words, insufferable pedantic geeks? :) >> > OI! We insufferable pedantic geeks need love too, you know? LOL - sorry, didn't mean to be so... unloving. :) But you must understand, I lived and/or worked in the Silicon Valley (the area in and around San Jose, California) - one of the high-tech capitals of the world, for ten years. I was surrounded by insufferable pedantic geeks for ten years, and I have the scars to prove it!
I don't meant to put down people who are shy or socially awkward. What I can't stand is the arrogant, know-it-all, correct-it-all attitude of some of these geeks. The kind that can't stop themselves from correcting some insignificant factoid in the heartfelt speech you just made. The type who probably got beaten up on the schoolyard when they were kids, and now that they've found their niche, have to remind you how superior their intelligence is. Of course, they probably acted the same way when they were kids, which is probably *why* they were beaten up...
Have pity on me, I used to be surrounded by such people! I've since fled north 50 miles to Oakland, an entirely different world. Now if I could only find work up here...
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O J - 03 Oct 2004 11:09 GMT >. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >it, it's hardwired into us. I can find typos in seconds, they leap off the >page at me and make me want to scream. For me, at least, it seems oh so much easier to find them after I've hit the send button than before. The worst is when I've misused a word -- how embarrassing! They pass the spellchecker just fine though. My favorite example:
Your -- as in, "your post is dumb" You're -- as in "you're dumb as a post"
The group I'm referring to also likes to use "Austria" for both Austria and Australia.
Regards and Purrs, O J
badwilson - 03 Oct 2004 12:17 GMT > The group I'm referring to also likes to use "Austria" for both > Austria and Australia. > > Regards and Purrs, > O J Unbelievable! They are half a world apart, totally different countries in every way, and just because they are spelled similarly, they become interchangeable???
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O J - 04 Oct 2004 02:57 GMT On Sun, 3 Oct, wrote:
>> The group I'm referring to also likes to use "Austria" for both >> Austria and Australia. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >and can vouch for the fact that they are most definitely *not* >interchangeable! It was one of those things that started out as a typo by someone and was so catchy that it became a convention. The group has a semi-official Olympic athlete, that swimmer who left one and became a citizen of the other (sorry, I've forgotten names and places), couldn't make the team, and competed for the first one.
The group has a BOA (Ban On Acronyms) but prides itself on also having a BOP and a BOR as two of its cardinal rules.
Regards and Purrs, O J (OJTB) (TBFTE)
CatNipped - 03 Oct 2004 15:16 GMT > For me, at least, it seems oh so much easier to find them after I've > hit the send button than before. The worst is when I've misused a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J Yeah, me too. The only typos that make me cringe are my own. My biggest, for some reason is typing "you" instead of "your" and vice-versa. My gawd that makes whatever I'm trying to say sound *SO* schtoopid!!! Another biggie for me is using homonyms such as "formally" instead of "formerly" - and many, *MANY* other mistakes that I always seem to make and the spellchecker never catches!
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Steve Touchstone - 03 Oct 2004 19:30 GMT >For me, at least, it seems oh so much easier to find them after I've >hit the send button than before. The worst is when I've misused a >word -- how embarrassing! They pass the spellchecker just fine >though. Ain't that the truth. I can read something a half dozen times and not find anything, and then find a dozen goofs when I read it after it's been posted.
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John F. Eldredge - 03 Oct 2004 03:18 GMT >>>During the day, I usually leave the door ajar so they can come in >>>and out as they please, but we couldn't do that if we were gone. I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >cats will sometimes do, just sitting in a circle and visiting with >each other. As I have posted a couple of times before, a friend of mine who pastors a country church once had a squirrel get into the church office. When all attempts to chase it outside failed, he finally left a couple of doors propped open for several hours. When he returned to lock up, he found that the squirrel was gone, but two possums, a groundhog, and a skunk were having a "fellowship dinner" in the church's kitchen. Since the kitchen in question didn't have any lingering aroma of skunk, I presume that he got them all out of the kitchen without major consequences.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Oct 2004 09:44 GMT > That happened to a cow orker of mine from NY. He had a cat door and > came home one day to the neighborhood cats having a party in his > kitchen. They were doing one of those 'kaffee klatsch' things that > cats will sometimes do, just sitting in a circle and visiting with > each other. One of my former... um... "cow orkers" told a similar story one time at a group lunch. One night, shortly after installing a cat door in his home, he woke up around 3 AM and discovered that there were 5 or so cats sleeping peacefully on his bed. Only one of them actually lived there, and I guess his cat thought it was time to invite the neighborhood gang in for a group snooze. I just got a kick out of the fact that they'd all gone to sleep on the guy's bed. They weren't fighting, hissing, staking out territory, or doing anything that strange cats tend to do together in a new environment. Nope, they'd figured out how to indulge in the good life! ;)
Joyce
Seanette Blaylock - 03 Oct 2004 10:28 GMT jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net had some very interesting things to say about Re: Leaving Cats:
>One of my former... um... "cow orkers" told a similar story one time >at a group lunch. One night, shortly after installing a cat door in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >strange cats tend to do together in a new environment. Nope, they'd >figured out how to indulge in the good life! ;) See http://members.optusnet.com.au/white_gold/index.html for the chronicles of one poor guy's misadventures with a CowOrker of his. :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Karen Chuplis - 03 Oct 2004 12:46 GMT in article a_O7d.16103$54.253585@typhoon.sonic.net, jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net at jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net wrote on 10/3/04 3:44AM:
>> That happened to a cow orker of mine from NY. He had a cat door and >> came home one day to the neighborhood cats having a party in his [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce Oh my. That IS funny!!
Adrian - 02 Oct 2004 11:22 GMT > General question about this issue: is it cheaper to board animals than > it is to have a petsitter come to your house to take care of them? I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce Talking of pet sitters. Where I used to live, about five years ago, four of my neighbours were away at the same time. I looked after all their cats, checking on them 2-3 times a day. I was carrying so many keys arround i felt like a prison warder. :-)
 Signature Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat.
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