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CatNipped - 29 Sep 2004 21:29 GMT
I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
taken care of if they should pass away before their cats do.

This subject was brought up on another group and it got me wondering.  My DH
and I haven't made out our wills yet (really, really need to - it just
hasn't seemed urgent since our kids are grown and, aside from our house, we
really don't have a pot to p*ss in ;>).

However, thinking about what might happen to my fur-babies should something
happen to both of us has made it seem more urgent.

Giving them to my son is out of the question because his wife will not
tolerate a cat in the house (the cat my son has had since before his
marriage has managed just fine since she was born and raised outside, and
they live on a dead-end, very quiet street).  Their current kitten will
probably join his other cat outside as soon as he's old enough in my DIL's
eyes.

My cats, however, have never been outside and would not know how to cope.

Neither would I want my daughter and SIL to take them - they have two d*gs
and are not really "cat people".

So, I have no idea what would happen to my babies, and have now gotten
myself all worried about it.  I can only hope that they do not outlive me
and from now on only adopt older cats.  Thankfully, my family is very
long-lived (my grandmother was still walking 5 miles a day when she died at
age 105, and my mother, 78, goes dancing or bowling every day of the week),
so I'm hoping this problem will never arise.

Anyway, what have others here done?

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 29 Sep 2004 21:49 GMT
We haven't done it, but it's in our "to do" list. What we plan to do is
have a trust set up so that if we both die at the same time, there is
money to take care of the cats. We're still unsure on how to do the
"take care of the cats" part. There are organizations that you can pay
money to and they will take over your cats when you die (can't find a
link right now) or you could also have a designated person who would get
the money in exchange of taking care of the cats.
Any other ideas would be most appreciated!

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Margaret Fine - 29 Sep 2004 22:28 GMT
> We haven't done it, but it's in our "to do" list. What we plan to do is
> have a trust set up so that if we both die at the same time, there is
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> the money in exchange of taking care of the cats.
> Any other ideas would be most appreciated!

Two places I can think of off the top of my head:

http://www.vet.ksu.edu/depts/development/perpet/program.htm
and
http://www.spca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=HCIH_PG_Pet_Survivor

Both offer someone the opportunity to leave money to each organization
and the animal will receive care for life.  the top link is the Kansas
State University Vet school where they will find a loving home for your
pet and monitor it for the rest of the pet's life. Your money is used to
insure the medical costs for your pet will always be covered.  The cost
is $25,000.

The last link is the Texas SPCA.  They have two options.  1) leave the
SPCA 10,000 and they'll find a loving home and monitor the pet for the
rest of the pet's life.  2) For $25,000 they have a life care cottage
where your pet will spend their remaining days in a home like setting
being cared for by the SPCA.

Both of these can be funded thru a small life insurance policy and
they'll work with you to make sure the money and pet arrangements are
legally set up.

I also know there are other places out there.

As for me...For the dog I have made an arrangement with my in laws.
I'll take their Newfie if need be and they'll take my boy.  They have
also offered to take Oliver but I wonder if it would be the best
situation since my M-I-L is an avid gardener and has hundreds of house
plants just waiting to be knocked over and chewed on.  If my in laws go
before me (and don't take this the wrong way but I hope they do.
They're 30 years older than me!) I have a sibling who I would trust for
the dog.  For the cat I have two candidates among the siblings.  Both
animals come with a some money for their care so as to not burden
anyone.  I need to see if an animal trust is legal in MD when we do our
wills in the next year.
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Victor Martinez - 29 Sep 2004 22:42 GMT
> rest of the pet's life.  2) For $25,000 they have a life care cottage
> where your pet will spend their remaining days in a home like setting
> being cared for by the SPCA.

How many pets (including horses!?!?!) can you fit in one 2,500 square
feet home?
http://www.spca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=AP_Life_Care

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Margaret Fine - 30 Sep 2004 01:17 GMT
>> rest of the pet's life.  2) For $25,000 they have a life care cottage
>> where your pet will spend their remaining days in a home like setting
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> feet home?
> http://www.spca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=AP_Life_Care

I wondered the same thing.  I bet in reality they don't have too many
people who will do the $25,000 option.  I wonder if each horse gets
their own bedroom?  ;-)

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Nan - 29 Sep 2004 23:08 GMT
>I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
>that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
>CatNipped

I have 4 kids who are animal lovers.  The oldest is the one with the
DH who isn't allowed to go to TED anymore because he brings home
kittens.  The youngest has d*gs, cats, and kids.  The other 2 have
d*gs.
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a fool talks because he has to say something.
Steve Touchstone - 29 Sep 2004 23:12 GMT
<snip>
>Anyway, what have others here done?
hmmm, sorry to say, but like and Victor so far I haven't done
anything. Making a will just isn't something a healthy person thinks
much about, although everyone probably should. I THINK my last will
was done when I retired in '93, but the only one I positively remember
was while deploying to the first Gulf war. Anyway, thanks for the
reminder, now to get off my a## and do something about it.
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Lois Reay - 29 Sep 2004 23:37 GMT
I have it in my will that my friend (who is a vet and cat breeder) will take
care of any cats/kittens that I may have - I have also stated that none of
the kitties are to be put to sleep, if he can't keep all of the cats I trust
him enough to find loving homes for them.
I haven't made another will since I married earlier this year but we have
done a draft copy - must get on to that soon.

Lois

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> I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
> that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
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>
> CatNipped
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Sep 2004 23:58 GMT
This is a tangent to the discussion at hand, but I just had to comment
on this:

> Thankfully, my family is very long-lived (my grandmother was still
> walking 5 miles a day when she died at age 105, and my mother, 78,
> goes dancing or bowling every day of the week),

WOW!!! Your family has some really good genes! (They also, apparently,
have some excellent habits.) They both put me, aged 50, to shame!

Sounds like you have a good chance of outliving your current batch of
kitties.

Joyce
CatNipped - 30 Sep 2004 00:11 GMT
> This is a tangent to the discussion at hand, but I just had to comment
> on this:
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>
> Joyce

Yeah, well, I'm not as good as mom and grandmother about staying fit -
although I'm trying to make up for it now at age 52.  I exercise for 45
minutes a day 4 days a week, but that's *very* recent and only because,
after my gastric bypass surgery and losing 80 pounds in 6 months, I didn't
want to have to pull my @$$ up from around my ankles!! ;>

I hope I outlive them for *their* sakes, not mine.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Bev - 30 Sep 2004 00:52 GMT
> > This is a tangent to the discussion at hand, but I just had to comment
> > on this:
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>
> CatNipped

It is a worry, about what happens to the kitties.   My big hopes are two
nephews whose wives adore cats (the boys like cats too but it is the
wives who look after them)   If  DH goes first I intend to ask them to
take the kitties, if they say yes I will make sure enough money is left
to them to finance the gang. I intend to outlive the kitties though :)

Bev
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Mischief - 30 Sep 2004 03:38 GMT
I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
me.

Who would take care of my cats?

My roommate would probably take care of them to a point, but she
probably would have to move out since she can't afford to pay rent for
our apartment by herself.  And she can't take them home to her family
in Anaheim, because they have about 14 cats anyway, and I don't want
my furkids to be outdoor kitties.

I got Imp from a cat adoption group, so she would probably call them
and ask them to take Imp and Mischief too.  I know they would find
good homes.

I am happy to say, that I'm feeling much better and I'm no longer
contemplating suicide.  I'm back on my meds, and I've cut down doing
thigns that depress me (I won't go into what they are, but they
weren't really healthy)

I love my kitties very much.  I've gone as far as to think of what
would happen if there was a huge disaster and I had to evacuate.  I'm
not talking just putting the cats into carriers and then driving off
in my car, I'm talking extreme disaster, like Day after Tomorrow or
The Stand.  (Hey, what can I say, I have an overactive imagination)
Whatever would happen, I would not leave my furkids behind.

Kristi
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Sep 2004 05:08 GMT
> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
> me.

> Who would take care of my cats?

I know what you mean. I can't say I've been *really* close to suicide,
but there have been times in the past few years where I thought about
it - and worrying about my cats was the main thing that kept it in
the fantasy realm.

It's a good sign when you're worried enough about the care of your cats
that you would stay alive for them. That means you're still sufficiently
engaged in the world of the living to want to stay in it. You might have
detached from *much* of that world, but not all of it. The day a person
says they don't care what happens to their cats, or kids, or anyone else
who would be left behind, that's when you really have to worry. That's
someone who's seriously alienated and probably has few reasons to live.

Anyway, I'm glad you're feeling better now! (So am I.) Your life is
certainly full these days. :)

Joyce
mlbriggs - 30 Sep 2004 06:02 GMT
> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
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>
> Kristi

Something to think about:
""""One truth we gain from living through the years --
Fear brings more pain than does the pain it fears>"

Be of good cheer!   MLB
Marina - 30 Sep 2004 06:15 GMT
> I am happy to say, that I'm feeling much better and I'm no longer
> contemplating suicide.  I'm back on my meds, and I've cut down doing
> thigns that depress me (I won't go into what they are, but they
> weren't really healthy)

So glad to hear that you are feeling so much better. We need more of
those Vet Tech's Diaries, you know! For me, too, the cats are often the
only reason to get up in the morning, but they always keep me hanging on.

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CatNipped - 30 Sep 2004 14:17 GMT
> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
> me.

When I was 23, I was married to an abusive alcoholic and had two kids, 3 and
2.  I was *so* co-dependent that the @$$hole had me believing that my kids
would be better off without me.  One night I took 30 placidils ("red
jellies", about the strongest sleeping pills every made) and 50 blue
(maximum strength) valium.  The doctors were *EXTREMELY* surprised that I
awoke from the self-induced coma a day later.  I was extremely surprised
that the @$$hole even noticed there was something wrong with me until I
found out later that it was my best friend who had come over to check on me
(she feels very guilty to this day because at the time she told the @$$hole,
"Let her lay there awhile so she'll be really sick." because she was angry
at what I had done and didn't know how much/what I had taken and thought I
was just being dramatic).

What it took me a while to realize is that, no matter what, it was better to
live and try to correct any mistakes I might make than to die and let others
(who certainly did not love them the way I did) take care of the people I
loved.  It's sort of like the moral of "It's a Wonderful Life" - if you live
your life trying to make the lives of others better, even just doing small
kindnesses, there is a chain reaction, like the ripples from a stone tossed
into a pond.  Those things you can do, those things that make others better
and make *them* go on to help even more people, those things 1) far outweigh
whatever mistakes you have made and are more important than the sadness you
feel 2) help alieviate the depression and sadness you're feeling and 3) make
the world, especially for the people you love, a much better place than it
would have been without you in it.

There are a few small things you can do for immediate help when you are
feeling overwhelmed with depression, helplessness, and fear. First of all DO
something. Rearrange the furniture, clean out a closet, and if you don't
like housework, just pack up the kids and take a walk. This accomplishes two
things. First of all, the physical exertion will help wash out of your
bloodstream the hormones and chemicals that are associated with depression.
Secondly, just the act of doing something, anything, helps get rid of that
feeling of helplessness. You are taking charge of something, no matter how
small, and this leads to confidence that you can take charge of the larger
things. Then, find a friend to talk to. Even if there is nothing they can do
to help you out of your situation, it will at least keep you in contact with
a "saner" perspective on things (providing you pick a sane friend, that is
;> ). Next, find the courage to take your problems to a professional. Look
in the phonebook for agencies that can help you find what you need in the
way of physical, psychological, financial, or legal assistance. I would have
given anything, 30 years ago, to have had the resources available to me that
are available today!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Karen - 30 Sep 2004 14:46 GMT
For the first time ever, I received one of those "making the email rounds"
anecdotes, that I thought was a really good analogy. It didn't seem wishy
washy or pollyannish, it just seemed like a new perspective and I thought I
would share it here considering the line of conversation (I too have
contemplated suicide in my early twenties - I swear it's a chemical thing in
our changing bodies. Something about that time in our lives is very
volitile):

A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up a $20.00 bill.
In the room of 200, he asked, "Who would like this $20 bill?" Hands started
going up. He said, "I am going to give this $20 to one of you but first, let
me
do this.

He proceeded to crumple up the $20 dollar bill. He then asked, "Who still
wants it?" Still the hands were up in the air. Well, he replied, "What if I
do this?" And he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it into the
floor with his shoe. He picked it up, now crumpled and dirty. "Now, who
still
wants it?" Still the hands went into the air.

My friends, we have all learned a very valuable lesson. No matter what I
did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value.
It
was still worth $20.

Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt
by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel
as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will
happen, you will never lose your value. Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely
creased,
you are still priceless to those who DO LOVE you.
Adrian - 01 Oct 2004 15:14 GMT
> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Kristi

I'm glad you're feeling better, I have been in the same position and
knowing how much Snoopy loves me is what stopped me. I'm certain if it
wasn't for Snoopy, I ouldn't be here now.
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Christina Websell - 01 Oct 2004 22:45 GMT
>> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
>> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> knowing how much Snoopy loves me is what stopped me. I'm certain if it
> wasn't for Snoopy, I ouldn't be here now.
It was only knowing that my animals and birds depended on me that kept me
going last year after my mother (we were very close) was found dead.  No
warning.

Tweed
CatNipped - 02 Oct 2004 00:16 GMT
> It was only knowing that my animals and birds depended on me that kept me
> going last year after my mother (we were very close) was found dead.  No
> warning.
>
> Tweed

{{{{{{{{{{Tweed}}}}}}}}}}

Thank all that's good that they *were* there to keep you here - we would
have missed knowing such a kind and caring person.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 02 Oct 2004 01:14 GMT
>> It was only knowing that my animals and birds depended on me that kept me
>> going last year after my mother (we were very close) was found dead.  No
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> CatNipped

Thank you. There are lots of ways that animals are said to be good for us,
reducing blood pressure, calming influence, teaching children to care.  I
know a lot of cases where having dependant animals has stopped someone doing
something stupid when they are overwhelmed by despair.
There is still a bit left that says "what would happen to my
cats/dogs/birds?  Would they starve if no-one found me soon?" and also would
anyone look after them in the same way, and love them as much.
So that stops you.  I had never experienced true clinical depression before
my mother died.  I thought it meant just feeling sad.  OMG, I wouldn't wish
it on my worst enemy. I became almost totally unable to function.  I fed the
animals and not myself.
I was so worried about myself at one stage that I sent for a friend of mine,
a social worker who specialises in mental health.  I wept and sobbed when I
rang her up.  She came almost straight away.
I said "Sue, there is something much more wrong with me than depression."  I
told her all about it and she said there wasn't.  I wasn't totally mad, it
was all "normal."  She was very careful to say it might take me more than a
fortnight to get right again, although I'd feel a little better week by
week.  I'm so glad she didn't tell me it would take nine months.
It's a pity that I had all this trouble with eye ops during the recovery,
but I tell you what, I'd rather have a dozen eye operations than have
depression.  It's the worst illness I ever had.  In some cases. it's fatal.
It should be right up there with cancer and heart disease as a killer.

Tweed
CatNipped - 02 Oct 2004 01:47 GMT
> depression.  It's the worst illness I ever had.  In some cases. it's fatal.
> It should be right up there with cancer and heart disease as a killer.
>
> Tweed

Oh, it is!  And the sad part is that it takes so many young, healthy people
(especially teenagers, and recently here in the US there have been cases or
*PRE-TEENS* committing suicide).

The hardest thing to do when you're young is to realize that life will go on
and things *WILL* get better.  Everything seems like the end of the world
when you're young and you don't have the experience to know that a bad
experience will gradually fade and you will be happy again.

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 02 Oct 2004 15:29 GMT
On Sat, 2 Oct, Tweed wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------
>I became almost totally unable to function.  I fed the
>animals and not myself.
---------------------<snip>----------------------

I feel for anyone who suffers from this disease, it's been a chronic
condition most of my adult life.  Reading your remarks though, there's
something that stands out -- lack of appetite and not eating as
symptoms.  I guarantee that there are people who read your remarks and
could not help but say to themselves, "I should be so lucky as to not
want to eat when I'm depressed."

Please, do not take my remarks as in any way belittling or
marginalizing the feelings you experienced -- it's just that so many
people who suffer from obesity also suffer depression.  The last time
I was thin, I had a good six year run when I would bicycle eight miles
to work and thirty miles through the hills on the way home.
Gradually, my two nemeses crept up on me and took over my life again.

Playing and 'exchanging strokes' with the cats and, recently, reading
and writing about cats on rpca are some of the very positive things in
my life besides the love DH and I share.  Oh well, the grass always
looks greener, even when you and your neighbor are both looking at the
world through dark gray colored glasses.

Regards and Hugs to those fellow sufferers who may read this.
O J
CatNipped - 02 Oct 2004 20:34 GMT
> Please, do not take my remarks as in any way belittling or
> marginalizing the feelings you experienced -- it's just that so many
> people who suffer from obesity also suffer depression.

Very often the obesity is the *cause* of the depression - and it forms a
cycle, you eat when you feel depressed.  I know, I battled that my whole
life.  I just recently had gastric bypass surgery and have lost 80 pounds in
6 months (I still have 20 pounds to lose to get to my "ideal" weight, but
the doctor only "guaranteed" that I would lose 80% of my excess weight and
my weight loss has either slowed to a crawl or stopped).  My biggest fear is
that there will come a time when I *don't* get sick from eating (it scares
me when I can eat a whole "Lean Cuisine" frozen dinner without barfing).

You know what is really sad, though - and always makes me really, really
mad - is how differently obese people are treated by most people.  They are
viewed as slothful, lazy, sloppy, nasty, dirty, somehow for some reason
below human consideration.  I used to get really mad at job interviews when
I would get fantastic responses on the initial phone interview and then a
total turn-off as soon as I showed up for the face to face interview.  I
know how differently I'm being treated now than I was just 6 months ago -
*AND I'M THE SAME PERSON, NOT CHANGED IN ANY WAY EXCEPT THAT THERE'S JUST
LESS OF ME*!!!!

I once walked into a "5-7-9" shop here (for those of you in other countries
it's a shop that sells only women's clothes through size 9).  The girl made
a point of coming around the counter to confront me to tell me, "We don't
sell your size here!", all the while eying my up and down with a disgusted
look on her face.  I said, "That's really too bad that you won't let me shop
in your store because I was looking for a formal prom dress for my daughter
who is a size -1.  I guess I'll take my $500 and go find a store where they
want my business!"  What I really did was go out to my car and cry, and then
I went to the nearest fast food joint.

Anyway, I think society needs to do something about this "thin is in"
mentality - we're losing too many teen-aged girls to anorexia and too many
obese adults to suicide and we're devaluing people who could otherwise
contribute a lot but aren't given a chance just because of a body size that
is usually genetic and can't be helped even with a constant, starvation diet
(I know, I tried them all and even on an 800 calorie a day diet managed to
gain weight!!!).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Dan M - 03 Oct 2004 00:37 GMT
> Anyway, I think society needs to do something about this "thin is in"
> mentality - we're losing too many teen-aged girls to anorexia and too many
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>
> CatNipped

Isn't it tragic how so many people not afflicted with obesity view those
who are? I started putting on weight when I was in college, and didn't
really stop until I was well into my 30's. I'm finally managing to lose
some of my excess weight with a lot of effort, but dealing with the
attitudes of some of the more prejudiced skinny folk doesn't make it any
easier.

And as bad as it is in the US, when I used to travel to China fairly
frequently I found it to be even worse there.
Adrian - 02 Oct 2004 14:53 GMT
>>> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
>>> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> Tweed

I'm *very* glad you're still here. Hugs and purrs.
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polonca12000 - 02 Oct 2004 22:10 GMT
I'm so very sorry to hear this.
Lots of gentle hugs and purrs,
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> It was only knowing that my animals and birds depended on me that kept me
> going last year after my mother (we were very close) was found dead.  No
> warning.
>
> Tweed
Mischief - 02 Oct 2004 05:58 GMT
I realized that I hadn't really discusess the subject with my roomie.

She said, "I would definitely take care of the cats.  I wouldn't put
them up for adoption unless there was no other choice."

They are my babies.  At least I'll know they theyy'll be okay if
something happens to me.

Fortunately I plan on staying as long as whoever is up there plans on
me staying

Kristi

Remember, if you gotta go, you gotta go...............

But if you are forced to go, take company

Kristi
polonca12000 - 02 Oct 2004 22:04 GMT
Lots of hugs and purrs for you to keep feeling better,
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> I'm only 26,  but I also suffer from depression.  And back in July I
> am sorry to say that I was close to suicide.  But one thing stopped
> me.
>
> Who would take care of my cats?
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Jeanette - 30 Sep 2004 07:35 GMT
> I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
> that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
> taken care of if they should pass away before their cats do.

When Ade and I are both gone, whatever cats we have at the time of our death
will go to the local Branch of Cats Protection to be rehomed. There is
provision in our wills for a ?500 donation to the Branch for each cat, to
stay with the Branch, rather than the cat.

I've volunteered for this particular charity for nearly ten years now, and
am confident that they will do the right thing for each cat.

One woman I know has specified in her will that her house is to be left to
the Branch, on condition that we find a congenial, cat loving lodger to care
for her cats, dogs and rabbits in their own home until they have all passed
away, at which point we are free to sell the house.

Jeanette
Exocat - 30 Sep 2004 19:55 GMT
I've done much as Jeannette so won't bother saying it all again.

What a great idea to bring up the topic, it's pretty important.

Purrs

Gordon & the TT

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LOL - 30 Sep 2004 08:13 GMT
> I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
> that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
> taken care of if they should pass away before their cats do.

We've drawn up wills for a few people who have designated who is to
take in their animals, usually with a bequest to go along with it.  I
know that if DH and I died together either my parents or my brother
would take in our kitties.  It wouldn't be ideal for anybody, cats or
humans (they're all d*g people by preference), but it would be done
and the furbabies would be cared for.  If that were not the case, I am
not quite sure what we'd do.

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MaryL - 30 Sep 2004 10:58 GMT
> I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
> that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
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> CatNipped

My cats are included in my will.  Of course, we cannot legally leave
anything specifically "to" our pets.  Instead, I made arrangements with a
cat-loving (and very knowledgeable) friend who would adopt them if anything
were to happen to me.  She is also adamantly opposed to declawing and
believes in the same feeding principles, quality of care, etc. as I do.  I
included a monetary bequest for the friend to be used for the care of my
cats.  I also listed a secondary beneficiary, in the event the friend can't
care for my cats, and linked the bequest specifically to a requirement that
the cats must be indoor-only and cannot be declawed.

It is very important in an arrangement like this that you have a clear
understanding that (1) the friend really *wants* to do this and would not
consider it a burden; (2) the two of you have a firm understanding and
agreement on quality of care; and (3) that you select someone you can really
trust to follow through on these arrangements and act for the well-being of
your furry friends and not be someone who would look at the money as a "free
gift" for themselves.

MaryL
Ginger-lyn Summer - 30 Sep 2004 18:12 GMT
>I'm wondering at what the older members of this group (or any of you, for
>that matter) may have done as far as making arragements for their cats to be
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>CatNipped

I've got them in my will.  It's a legal will, although I did it myself
rather than through an attorney.  If anything happens to me, DH, of
course, gets the cats.  Should anything happen to both of us, I have
my ex-husband as Executor, and a dear friend in Indiana willing to
take the cats.  I even have my obit written, with donations going to a
local cat shelter.  I was a Girl Scout briefly, and like being
prepared ;-)

Ginger-lyn
Enfilade - 30 Sep 2004 21:48 GMT
Should both me and my partner die, we have an arrangement that my
parents would take in our cats.  While they don't really want house
cats, they've cat-sat for us in the past with our cats in their house
for several weeks (though we only had 2 cats then, and now have 4) and
I think that should we both die, my parents would feel obligated to us
to care for our cats in our place.

--Enfilade
Yoj - 30 Sep 2004 23:41 GMT
> Should both me and my partner die, we have an arrangement that my
> parents would take in our cats.  While they don't really want house
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My kids are all cat people, so I know that any cats I might have at the
time would be taken care of.  The only problem would be in adjusting
them from being indoor/outdoor cats to indoor only.

Joy
Magic Mood Jeep? - 30 Sep 2004 22:14 GMT
Our newspeople must be pet-psychics.  The following story was posted just a
few minutes ago:
http://www.theindychannel.com/family/3774690/detail.html

University Expands Home For Pets Whose Owners Died
POSTED: 4:53 pm EDT September 30, 2004
COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- A Texas A&M rest home for pets whose owners have
died is so successful it's expanding.
The Stevenson Companion-Life Care Center serves pet owners who contractually
make an endowment to guarantee care for their animals after they're gone.
That care is provided by one of the country's top veterinary medicine
schools.
The concept has been so successful that the 11-year-old center will dedicate
a 3,500-square-foot expansion this week.
Nearly 100 donors financed the work with $600,000 in contributions.
That's on top of the $4 million-plus endowment paid by the owners of 250
animals from 18 states.
Those deceased owners made plans to leave their pets under the care of
center director, his staff and A&M students.
Two students live at the house full-time and help provide the animals with
companionship.

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