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Purrs for my brother, Scott (PING: Howard?!)

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jmcquown - 24 Feb 2006 16:17 GMT
Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
shower and got so dizzy he nearly passed out.  He was having trouble
breathing and almost called 911.  He was in a panic.  He called me and I
rushed right over.  I got on the phone and arranged for him to be seen at my
regular doctor's office.  (He'd been there before but not for about 6
years.)  They took him right in; he was still signing those HIPAA forms when
they called his name.  Turned out he had a rather nasty case of bronchitis.
They gave him a bunch of physician's samples and had him breathe on a
nebulizer for a while to loosen the gunk in his lungs.

However, the chest x-ray showed a rather indeterminate spot, located as it
was at the joining of a couple of ribs.  So they sent him earlier this week
for a CT scan.  The CT scan showed two non-calicified nodules in his left
lung - one is 5mm in the upper lobe and one is 6.7mm in the lower lobe.
Also several "subpleural blebs" and several small "mediastinal lymph nodes".
I have no idea what all this means but they were going to schedule him for a
PET scan.  He did say so far no one has mentioned the "C" word but I think
that's what the PET scan is used to determine?!

And yes, he's been a smoker since 1970 although when he was so ill with the
bronchitis he practically quit since he couldn't breathe anyway.

Jill
CatNipped - 24 Feb 2006 16:32 GMT
Purrs on the way.

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> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill
Adrian - 24 Feb 2006 16:44 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he
> was very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up
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>
> Jill

Purrs on the way. I hope it's something treatable and that the scare stops
him smoking.
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Shiral - 24 Feb 2006 17:29 GMT
What Adrian said.  I hope he feels better soon  in any case, and that
it's not the big C.

Melissa
Irulan - 24 Feb 2006 17:16 GMT
Purrs and prayers for your brother. Please keep us updated.
Lily & her mama

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> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill
dnr - 24 Feb 2006 20:08 GMT
>> However, the chest x-ray showed a rather indeterminate spot, located as
>> it
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>> think
>> that's what the PET scan is used to determine?!

Uh, I'm not Howard (whom I'm sure knows a lot more about PET scans than
I do....never worked at a facility where they had one during my career; all
I
know is that like MRI, they can show a lot of detail regular xrays don't
show)
but for what it's worth and to ease your worry I hope: CT is also very
informative
to docs but is practically routine these days for in detail 411.....I used
to work
the fluoroscopy units for *lung biopsies* which is what they used then to
look
for the big C....during the exam (patient is awake because they need to have
him stop breathing at certain points) samples are taken from actual lung
tissue at the areas of concern on xray, and sent to lab for analysis, the
ultimate proof or not of "C". Howard B. will hopefully fill us in on PET
scans. Don't waste any worry on "subpleural blebs" nor "mediastinal
lymph nodes". Long-time smokers get all kind of defensive body tissue
in their lungs that is *not* the big C (which also has nothing whatsoever
to do with bronchitis, which I understand can make one *very* sick).
Christina Websell - 24 Feb 2006 19:59 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill

Lots of purrs for Scott's illness to turn out not serious.

Tweed
Marina - 24 Feb 2006 20:30 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> And yes, he's been a smoker since 1970 although when he was so ill with the
> bronchitis he practically quit since he couldn't breathe anyway.

Many purrs on the way for your brother, Jill.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Feb 2006 20:57 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say
> he was very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  

Many purrs for Scott.

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ann791 - 24 Feb 2006 22:07 GMT
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> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill
Yoj - 24 Feb 2006 23:20 GMT
Purrs for Scott - and for his worried sister.

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> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill
badwilson - 25 Feb 2006 00:48 GMT
Very scary.  Many purrs coming right up for Scott.
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> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he
> was very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up
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> Jill
Howard C. Berkowitz - 25 Feb 2006 05:17 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> PET scan.  He did say so far no one has mentioned the "C" word but I think
> that's what the PET scan is used to determine?!

PET is a relatively new technique in clinical use, often used to
complement CT.  Since I haven't been following its use in lung disease,
I just read a review article, and was surprised to see how important
hybrid CT-PET is in lung cancer.  Apparently, it gives an enormously
better understanding of the stage of the disease -- including
suggestions it is benign.  In the series of patients I looked at, the
physicians said that PET-CT results led them to make different
treatment decisions in somewhere between a third and a half of cases.
They felt they weren't taking biopsies of benign things, and were
spotting distant metastases much better.

That said, the imaging alone only suggests.  Biopsy, which may be
possible with a tube down the throat rather than opening the chest,
still is the gold standard. For certain tumors, there may be blood
changes. I'm not trying to be facetious, but there's a cynical acronym
among a lot of doctors: VOMIT, which stands for Victim Of Modern
Imaging Technology, or depending too much on imaging and not enough on
the overall clinical picture.  

While I wouldn't call enlarged lymph nodes a good sign, they could be
enlarged from infection as well. I'm wondering about exactly what is
causing the bronchitis, and if there may be a lower lung infection.

The PET-CT (almost always combined) will give a lot of information,
including the most meaningful spots to biopsy. It's really hard to
suggest what is wrong without physical exam and lab tests, which
apparently aren't definitive anyway.

If it is lung cancer, there have been some striking advances in
chemotherapy in the last few years. I advise most people with suspected
or confirmed cancer to see if there are relevant local clinical trials,
as that is often the way to get at least the best standard treatment,
and possibly a more effective one.

Purrs, of course, help.

> And yes, he's been a smoker since 1970 although when he was so ill with the
> bronchitis he practically quit since he couldn't breathe anyway.
>
> Jill
jmcquown - 26 Feb 2006 15:27 GMT
>> However, the chest x-ray showed a rather indeterminate spot, located
>> as it was at the joining of a couple of ribs.  So they sent him
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> Purrs, of course, help.

This information is very helpful, thank you!  His PET scan is scheduled for
Tuesday morning.  We'll know more then (I assume they review the scan the
same day and make recommendations from there).

Jill
Charleen Welton - 26 Feb 2006 17:07 GMT
Many purrs for health and healing for your brother and  understanding for
your family.
Charleen

>>> However, the chest x-ray showed a rather indeterminate spot, located
>>> as it was at the joining of a couple of ribs.  So they sent him
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> Jill
Howard C. Berkowitz - 26 Feb 2006 18:33 GMT
> This information is very helpful, thank you!  His PET scan is scheduled for
> Tuesday morning.  We'll know more then (I assume they review the scan the
> same day and make recommendations from there).

Do be sure it is hybrid PET-CT, not PET manually correlated with CT.
The diagnostic accuracy of the former is significantly better.  Given
it won't be a cheap test anyway, so if they say PET alone, I'd ask hard
questions about why it can't be done at a facility with the hybrid
technique.

Even on the weekend, you may be able to call radiology and ask if they
have a hybrid PET-CT scanner.
jmcquown - 26 Feb 2006 20:01 GMT
>> This information is very helpful, thank you!  His PET scan is
>> scheduled for Tuesday morning.  We'll know more then (I assume they
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> Even on the weekend, you may be able to call radiology and ask if they
> have a hybrid PET-CT scanner.

To be honest, he'd probably be freaked to know I inquired about this,
especially on a newsgroup!  He's a bit um... well, I can't describe him but
he doesn't like folks butting into his business even with the best
intentions.

I *do* know his primary care physician so perhaps I can give him a call on
Monday (I have to call anyway about a refill on my meds) and see what
exactly he referred him for.  I'm listed on the HIPAA forms as someone to
whom medical information can be released.

Then again, since he already had the CT scan his insurance company may not
pay for the hybrid PET-CT without a fight.  You know how that goes.  It's a
PPO so to get full benefits he has to go to a specific radiology group in a
specific hospital.  But I'll ask his (our) doctor.

Jill
kilikini - 25 Feb 2006 13:19 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill

I'm late in replying, but I've been working and not on the computer.  How
awful to have to deal with this and your father's illness as well.  My
entire fur-family is purring for yours.

{{{{{{{{  Hugs  }}}}}}}

kili
polonca12000 - 25 Feb 2006 13:23 GMT
> Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
> very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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> Jill

Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for it to be benign and for your
brother to stop smoking,
Polonca and Soncek
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 25 Feb 2006 19:29 GMT
>Before I left on my trip, Scott called me early one morning to say he was
>very ill.  He had been sick for 4 days.  That morning he got up to take a
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>
>Jill

Jill, I'm so sorry.  I hope Scott will be okay.  Purrs for him and you
and the family.

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Sam - 26 Feb 2006 21:37 GMT
OMG, Jill!  Mega-purrs on the way for Scott.

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Lesley - 27 Feb 2006 15:03 GMT
Purrs on their way for good news

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