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DANGEROUS SNAKES
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Dave Gerecke - 24 Feb 2006 08:05 GMT Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, not rattlesnakes.
A couple in Sweetwater, Texas had a lot of potted plants, and during a recent cold spell, the wife was bringing a lot of them indoors to protect them from a possible freeze. It turned out that a little green garden grass snake was hidden in one of the plants and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream.
The husband who was taking a shower ran out into the living room naked to see what the problem was. She told him there was a snake under the sofa. He got down on the floor on his hands and knees to look for it.
About that time the family dog came and cold-nosed him on the leg. He thought the snake had bitten him and he fainted. His wife thought he had a heart attack, so she called an ambulance. The attendants rushed in and loaded him on the stretcher and started carrying him out.
About that time the snake came out from under the sofa and the Emergency Medical Technician saw it and dropped his end of the stretcher. That's when the man broke his leg and why he is in the hospital.
The wife still had the problem of the snake in the house, so she called on a neighbor man. He volunteered to capture the snake. He armed himself with a rolled-up newspaper and began poking under the couch.
Soon he decided it was gone and told the woman, who sat down on the sofa in relief. But in relaxing, her hand dangled in between the cushions, where she felt the snake wriggling around. She screamed and fainted, the snake rushed back under the sofa, and the neighbor man, seeing her laying there passed out tried to use CPR to revive her.
The neighbor's wife, who had just returned from shopping at the grocery store, saw her husband's mouth on the woman's mouth and slammed her husband in the back of the head with a bag of canned goods, knocking him out and cutting his scalp to a point where it needed stitches. An ambulance was again called and it was determined that the injury required hospitalization.
The noise woke the woman from her dead faint and she saw her neighbor lying on the floor with his wife bending over him, so she assumed he had been bitten by the snake. She went to the kitchen, brought back a small bottle of whiskey, and began pouring it down the man's throat.
By now the police had arrived. They saw the unconscious man, smelled the whiskey, and assumed that a drunken fight had occurred. They were about to arrest them all, when the two women tried to explain how it all happened over a little green snake. They called an ambulance, which took away the neighbor and his sobbing wife.
Just then the little snake crawled out from under the couch. One of the policemen drew his gun and fired at it. He missed the snake and hit the leg of the end table that was on one side of the sofa. The table fell over and the lamp on it shattered and as the bulb broke, it started a fire in the drapes.
The other policeman tried to beat out the flames and fell through the window into the yard on top of the family dog, who startled, jumped up and raced out into the street, where an oncoming car swerved to avoid it and smashed into the parked police car and set it on fire. Meanwhile the burning drapes had spread to the walls and the entire house was blazing.
Neighbors had called the fire department and the arriving fire-truck had started raising his ladder as they were halfway down the street. The rising ladder tore out the overhead wires and put out the electricity and disconnected the telephones in a ten-square city block area.
Time passed. Both men were discharged from the hospital, the house was re-built, the police acquired a new car, and all was, once again, right with their normal world.
About a year later they were watching TV and the weatherman announced a cold snap for that night. The husband asked his wife if she thought they should bring in their plants for the night.
She shot him.
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badwilson - 24 Feb 2006 12:27 GMT Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own any guns ;-) Speaking of which, I know for 100% sure that there is a snake in the ceiling of my living room right now. I have heard it slithering around the last 2 mornings. It is definitely snakely slithering, not rats. *Very* unnerving. I've gone around and double, triple, quadruple checked for any cracks where it could get into the house from. So far so good. The countdown is on. 19 days until the movers come.
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> Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, > not rattlesnakes. [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > ------ sriddles@aol.com - 24 Feb 2006 14:50 GMT > Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December > when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Britta Oooo Britta. Unnerving is too mild a word. If you can *hear* it moving around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty good sized, no? Purrs that your attic-guest can also read a calendar and won't make an appearance till you're gone! Sherry
-L. - 24 Feb 2006 18:32 GMT > Oooo Britta. Unnerving is too mild a word. If you can *hear* it moving > around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty > good sized, no? Sherry, if she actually can HEAR it, it must be HUGE and have *really* big FANGS, too! ;)
LOL...it depends on what it is slithering *on*. A small snake makes big noise slithering in or on paper. A snake in and of itself slithers silently. (Say that 10 times, fast!)
BTW, didn't you have a bull snake in your basement? Is he still there?
-L.
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Feb 2006 19:07 GMT > > Oooo Britta. Unnerving is too mild a word. If you can *hear* it moving > > around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -L. LOL! OK, I'm getting better. My fear isn't of the snake, it's the *unexpectedness!*. For instance, everday when I open my sock drawer, I expect to find only socks. I don't want to see a snake in there! Oh yeah, Jake. He's still in the cellar. I guess we'll see him pretty soon when warm weather hits. . He gets in and out through the vents. Except the cellar is completely separate from the house, it's a storm cellar, so I know he can't get in the house. And when I go in the back, I expect to see him, so he doesn't scare me.
Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Feb 2006 19:20 GMT > > > Oooo Britta. Unnerving is too mild a word. If you can *hear* it moving > > > around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Sherry p.s. I keep referring to Jake as a "him" but some guy said it is probably a female snake due to the size and the fact that it keeps hanging around. IIRC the proper way to identify the sex had something to do with the anus and I really didn't want to get that intimate with a snake. So Jake could possibly be "Jake-elyn"
Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Feb 2006 19:25 GMT > Oooo Britta. Unnerving is too mild a word. If you can *hear* it moving > around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty > good sized, no? Not necessarily. It's surprising how much noise even a couple of very small mice in the attic can produce in the rooms beneath!
badwilson - 25 Feb 2006 00:44 GMT >> Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early >> December when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > around, I bet it's not some tiny little snake. It's probably pretty > good sized, no? Well, unless it's a cobra, it's probably not *too* big. The one that came out of the kitchen ceiling was only about 3.5 feet. I think that the only thing seperating the snake from me is a single layer of drywall, so the noise is probably quite loud because it's so close.
> Purrs that your attic-guest can also read a calendar and won't make an > appearance till you're gone! > Sherry Thanks! I don't know why this stuff always seems to happen when Dennis is away. There has also been a strange rash of break ins in our neighbourhood. I'm a nervous wreck :-(
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-L. - 24 Feb 2006 18:27 GMT > Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December > when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > so good. > The countdown is on. 19 days until the movers come. You will never have a mouse or rat problem. -L.
CatNipped - 24 Feb 2006 18:40 GMT >> Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December >> when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You will never have a mouse or rat problem. > -L. Maybe it's just because I like snakes, but I'd rather have an infestation of them than of rodents! Of course, Britta lives where there are some *really* poisonous specimens - here in Texas all the poisonous snakes are easily identifiable (if you can remember "Red on yellow, kill a fellow - red on black, friendly Jack", and if it's rattling at you, you leave it alone!).
Hugs,
CatNipped
Adrian - 24 Feb 2006 18:43 GMT >>> Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early >>> December when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > CatNipped I wonder what Britta would choose, if given the choice between snakes or moths. ;-)
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badwilson - 25 Feb 2006 00:39 GMT >>>> Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early >>>> December when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I wonder what Britta would choose, if given the choice between snakes > or moths. ;-) Heh. As scared of moths that I am, I would gladly choose moths over snakes!
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sriddles@aol.com - 24 Feb 2006 19:14 GMT > > Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December > > when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You will never have a mouse or rat problem. > -L. DH & I were talking about this. We still have a bad gopher problem. (remember my trouble with them chewing the phone lines). And we have five cats and a bullsnake living rent-free in the cellar. I don't have an excuse for the cats, but if I am correct, Jake would eat one gopher a week max, and they must be multiplying at a much higher rate. Woudl that be right? Sherry
-L. - 25 Feb 2006 02:17 GMT > DH & I were talking about this. We still have a bad gopher problem. > (remember my trouble with them chewing the phone lines). And we have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that be right? > Sherry Depends on the size of Jake and the gohpers - but remember if Jake is around, so are his siblings, cousins, etc. You probably have snakes because of the gophers, but obviously the gophers are more successful at the moment. Eventually I would expect the snake population to blossom if there are multiple snakes in the area unless you have snake diseases as well, or they are eating poisoned gophers. (Poisoned gophers will kill the snakes.) -L.
sriddles@aol.com - 25 Feb 2006 02:32 GMT > > DH & I were talking about this. We still have a bad gopher problem. > > (remember my trouble with them chewing the phone lines). And we have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > gophers will kill the snakes.) > -L. No. Sigh. I've had this discussion with Phone Cable-Layer Guy. Says I need to buy this particular brand of poison that has strychnine in it. I tell him no, I can't do that for a multitude of reasons; one, even if it *is* a gopher, it's a horrible way to die and (2) I can't risk poisoning Jake or the cats. Phone Cable-Layer Guy got real exasperated (this was the 2nd time he had to fix it). Says next time they're going to charge for for new cable. I said, WHOA! It's not they are "my" gophers or anything. I'm not responsible for what they do. Next time you see me absent for a few days you'll know the saga continues and the phone line is chewed in half again. In August every year I see baby bullsnakes around. But I never see any other big snakes except Jake. I don't know what happens to the babies, why I don't see them when they grow up. Maybe they just avoid humans more than Jake does.
Sherry
-L. - 25 Feb 2006 07:23 GMT > No. Sigh. I've had this discussion with Phone Cable-Layer Guy. Says I > need to buy this particular brand of poison that has strychnine in it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you see me absent for a few days you'll know the saga continues and the > phone line is chewed in half again. Hummmm. I would be inclined to lure them away somehow. I'm not sure how though, LOL...
> In August every year I see baby bullsnakes around. But I never see any > other big snakes except Jake. I don't know what happens to the babies, > why I don't see them when they grow up. Maybe they just avoid humans > more than Jake does. Jake is probably a big old fat female that has found a niche. They tend to get lazy as they age and not travel as much. Those babies are probably Jake's babies.
You might want to set up habitat for them near where the gophers are chewing the lines. Just a wood pile and a few rocks to sun on, as well as a water dish is all that is needed. The gopher pups are what they will feed on - the adult gophers are more likely to be taken by rattlesnakes and coyotes.
-L.
badwilson - 25 Feb 2006 00:38 GMT >> Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early >> December when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You will never have a mouse or rat problem. > -L. Yeah right. I have rats in the ceiling too. Last time, when the snake came out of the ceiling in the kitchen, it was bleeding on it's tail. We think that the ceiling rats were ganging up on and attacking the ceiling snake and it was trying to get away from them when it discovered the crack into the house (now plugged really well). And BTW, it's not the attic the critters are in, it's the celing between the ground and 2nd floor. I have no clue how they all get in, it must be from some of the palm trees growing so close to the house. I am too scared of encountering snakes to actually spend any time outside walking around the house and looking.
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polonca12000 - 25 Feb 2006 13:09 GMT > Good Lord, this was almost the scenario at our house in early December > when the snake came out of the ceiling! It's a good thing we don't own [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > so good. > The countdown is on. 19 days until the movers come. Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes that you and the snake never actually see each other, Polonca and Soncek
Jane - 24 Feb 2006 15:04 GMT http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/hindlick.htm
>Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, >not rattlesnakes. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it >go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream. jmcquown - 24 Feb 2006 18:14 GMT > http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/hindlick.htm I believe Dave posted it as a joke. Such a comedy of errors could only occur in an old Marx Brothers film ;)
Jill
>> Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, >> not rattlesnakes. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it >> go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream. Jane - 24 Feb 2006 18:21 GMT Well, I did find it hysterically funny anyway.
Jane
>> http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/hindlick.htm >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it >>> go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream. Yowie - 24 Feb 2006 19:46 GMT The rule of 'Dave' in this group is that anything that Dave (doesn't matter which Dave) posts it not necessarily guanteed to be 100% true, just 100% guaranteed to be funny and worth the read.
Yowie
> Well, I did find it hysterically funny anyway. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>>> and when it had warmed up, it slithered out and the wife saw it >>>> go under the sofa. She let out a very loud scream. Chakolate - 24 Feb 2006 20:48 GMT > The rule of 'Dave' in this group is that anything that Dave (doesn't > matter which Dave) posts it not necessarily guanteed to be 100% true, > just 100% guaranteed to be funny and worth the read. Kewl! Maybe I should change my name to ChakoDave?
Chak
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Feb 2006 19:23 GMT I suppose we should KNOW any post of Dave's has a large "BW" implied, but we do keep acquiring new posters who've not yet encountered him. I wonder how many keyboards were causalties of this post?
> Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, > not rattlesnakes. [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > ------ Dave Gerecke - 25 Feb 2006 08:00 GMT Me - post an article that was true. Never. Unless it pertains to the health of the animal. Then I might (most likely) be telling the truth.
But any articles pertaining to washing the cat can be assumed to be from the dog's point of view. I'm on the dog's side. dave
> I suppose we should KNOW any post of Dave's has a large "BW" > implied, but we do keep acquiring new posters who've not yet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Green GardenGrass snakes can be dangerous, Yes, grass snakes, > > not rattlesnakes. snip
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