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meee - 22 Feb 2006 05:22 GMT
Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and dustier
by the day. I accept that living with multiple cats=fur flying, however I
would like to help them keep it under control, especially as Jasmine tends
to feel the heat a lot more than the shorter furred meezers. She isn't long
haired, but is a cross between a long and shorthair I presume, as her coat
is very thick. i have looked at several brushes, from the bristle, to the
comb to the ones with lots of small wire type bristles set into a flat base.
What I want to know, is what has worked for you? I've got a large wire brush
I used to use for my Longhaired cats, but it has no effect as he fur is
short and thick. The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?
Sandy - 22 Feb 2006 06:41 GMT
None of my short-haired cats have had especially thick fur.  On Sundance
(short-haired) I use a flea comb -- no, he doesn't have fleas, but it does a
good job grooming him.

On Doc (RB, short haired) I used a "pin brush" like this:

http://tinyurl.com/lcbc8

The bristles are thicker and more rigid than typical slicker brushes, and
they got right down to his skin and got a lot of loose fur out.

On Rebecca (medium-haired) I use a "Zoom Groom".  You can see one here:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=1&pCatId=3334

I never would have chosen it myself, but it was part of Rebecca's "dowry"
and she was used to it so I use it.  She loves it -- when she sees me get it
out of the cabinet, she comes running over for her brushing!

On Jennifer (RB, medium-haired), I used a metal comb with rotating teeth.
The rotating teeth really helped keep the comb from snagging in the fur.

I don't know if any of that will help.  I had to try several different
things before I found something I liked.

Sandy

> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> not a lot. I need something to strip the undercoat of dead hair
> quickly.Any advice?
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Feb 2006 19:11 GMT
> On Rebecca (medium-haired) I use a "Zoom Groom".  You can see one
> here:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> she sees me get it out of the cabinet, she comes running over for
> her brushing!

Oscar has one of these.  It's great for snagging loose fur, but it
builds up static very quickly.  Still, she seems to mind it less than
other brushes I've tried.

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jmcquown - 22 Feb 2006 07:00 GMT
> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her
> kittens are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> need something to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any
> advice?

I don't know much about cat brushes (other than Persia loves to be brushed)
but as a long-haired female of the hoomin persuasion I can tell you, softer
bristled brushes work better on my hair (less tugging and damage) than wire
brushes or comb-type brushes.  Persia is a medium-short hair with thick soft
fur.  I bought her a natural bristle brush that isn't too stiff and I brush
her with it about once a week.  She adores the way it feels and it gets out
a lot more loose fur than you would think.  I also picked up a cheap
barber's comb to clean the fur out of the bristles.

They also sell moist "bath wipes" for cats to get rid of excess fur and
dander.  They aren't soaking wet like I'd imagine a baby wipe would be but
they definitely help get rid of excess fur and dander.  They smell nice, too
(not that cats don't smell nice).  The only problem there is when the cat
figures out it's like taking a hoomin bath ;)

Jill
Debbie Wilson - 22 Feb 2006 08:49 GMT
> What I want to know, is what has worked for you? I've got a large wire brush
> I used to use for my Longhaired cats, but it has no effect as he fur is
> short and thick. The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
> to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?

You need an undercoat rake for Jasmine. I have got a 'Mikki mini
undercoat rake' which I use on Merlin for his dense, fine undercoat fur
as he's a chinchilla-DSH cross and it gets out loads. I also used it on
a foster cat, Ben, that came in with hyperthyroidism and one side-effect
was that the fur grows much faster, but it wasn't shed quickly enough so
he had ended up with a really thick, scraggy-looking coat, most of which
was dead fur. I got literally bags and bags of dead fur out with the
undercoat rake. I think it's actually a product for dogs, but if you get
the smallest size and short teeth, and use it gently, it works a treat,
and not very expensive either. Merlin loves it!

E.g.

Stylemaster Deluxe Short Hair Undercoat Rake

http://www.petdirect.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=936

Gripsoft Rake - Short Teeth - 65006

http://www.petalia.com.au/Templates/ProdSubList.cfm?specie=Dogs&Category
=25&SCategory=46&Group_No=6688&PS_Data=Brushes%2C%20Combs%20%26%20Rakes&
PC_Data=Grooming%20Supplies

(watch the line wrap on that one!)

HTH

Deb.
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Enfilade - 22 Feb 2006 13:45 GMT
> What I want to know, is what has worked for you? I've got a large wire brush
> I used to use for my Longhaired cats, but it has no effect as he fur is
> short and thick. The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
> to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?

My four are shorthairs and three of them love that Zoom Groom.  I got a
ball of hair the size of a golf ball out of BOTH smokey and Tyche
yesterday.

(Nox hates everything.  We zoomgroom her sometimes, but...)

--Fil
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 22 Feb 2006 15:28 GMT
I'm afraid Otis is rather spoilt in this regard.  I have a very
expensive Mason & Pearson (for human) hairbrush which I don't need as
my hair is cropped short, so he gets the benefit of it when I'm
grooming him, and boy does he love it!

Marcia
Kelcey - 22 Feb 2006 17:38 GMT
>short and thick. The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
>to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?

Instead of getting the combs and brushes at the pet store, look at ones made
for humans too.  I use a comb made for humans; it's a soft plastic with a
double set of teeth and a handle.  My cats are both short-haired and medium-
haired and it works really well on both.

Kelcey
Marina - 22 Feb 2006 19:04 GMT
> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and dustier
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> short and thick. The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
> to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?

Inspired by this thread, I dug out Frank's old brush and tried brushing
Caliban. He was more interested in the brush than being brushed with it,
but I managed to get in some strokes with it. I looked at the brush. Not
a single hair. I brushed him some more. Still no hair. I held th brush
up to a lamp and looked sideways at it. Nope, not a single hair. However
hard I tried to brush him, not a single hair came off him. I even tried
gabbing a little of his fur in my fingers and pulling. From any othe cat
I've ever known, this would have given me at least a few loose hairs.
But not from Caliban. Now I've seen it all! A cat who does not shed! And
his fur is very thick and glossy. Amazing!

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meee - 23 Feb 2006 02:18 GMT
>> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her
>> kittens are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Caliban. Now I've seen it all! A cat who does not shed! And his fur is
> very thick and glossy. Amazing!

LOl!!! No fair (covered in fur from a smooch with mango)
Marina - 23 Feb 2006 03:26 GMT
> LOl!!! No fair (covered in fur from a smooch with mango)

I know the feeling. When I used to cuddle Frank or Nikki, I always ended
up with a face and hands full of hair, and my clothes were always
covered in hair. Now that I come to think of it, when Caliban does one
of his 'kitten-love attacks' where he jumps up on me and tramples all
over me and pushes up against my face all the time, I never get a mouth
full of hair, like I used to with Frank and Nikki. (Poor Caliban is
getting quite annoyed with me because I keep pulling his fur - not a
single loose hair yet.)

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meee - 23 Feb 2006 04:00 GMT
>> LOl!!! No fair (covered in fur from a smooch with mango)
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> annoyed with me because I keep pulling his fur - not a single loose hair
> yet.)

yep!! that's us!!! Mango, being shorthaired, is only a small shedder.
Jasmine is the mouthful of hair type, and I'm waiting to see with the
kittens!!
badwilson - 23 Feb 2006 02:39 GMT
>> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her
>> kittens are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I've seen it all! A cat who does not shed! And his fur is very thick
> and glossy. Amazing!

Wow, that is amazing!  You're so lucky!  Vino sheds sooooo much, I'm
amazed he's not bald.  If you as much as touch him with one finger, he
practically explodes and leaves a cloud of fur in the air above him.
He's got the weirdest fur, it's more like rabbit fur.  Very soft and
floofy, medium long.
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Chakolate - 23 Feb 2006 03:35 GMT
Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:463qs5F9bmglU1
@individual.net:

> Now I've seen it all! A cat who does not shed! And
> his fur is very thick and glossy. Amazing!

Umm, not to spoil your joy or anything, but...

Are you in the northern hemisphere?  It's deep winter for you, right?  My
cats will begin shedding soon, but there's nothing to brush off right
now.  

Chak

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Marina - 23 Feb 2006 05:51 GMT
> Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:463qs5F9bmglU1
> @individual.net:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> cats will begin shedding soon, but there's nothing to brush off right
> now.  

Yes, it's winter, but Frank and Nikki (and every other cat I've ever
known) always used to shed a little, all year round, though there were
periods of more intense shedding in spring and autumn. But not a hair
comes off even if I grab his fur and tug a little (I don't usually go
around tugging my cats' fur!). But I'll have to wait and see what
happens when it starts getting warmer.

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mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 23 Feb 2006 16:10 GMT
> > Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> > are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and dustier
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
> and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Man, not that I'm recommending he should have offspring, but you would
make a fortune - everyone I know seems to be allergice to their cats at
the moment, I don't know what's going on!

Marcia
Marina - 23 Feb 2006 17:02 GMT
> Man, not that I'm recommending he should have offspring, but you would
> make a fortune - everyone I know seems to be allergice to their cats at
> the moment, I don't know what's going on!

I'm afraid it's too late for that. He has been snipped already.

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meee - 23 Feb 2006 23:03 GMT
Thanks everyone for the recommendations. So far the consensus seems to be
the Kong Zoom Groom so I should be able to track one down as Kong products
are quite common here too, luckily!! Thankyou all for helping me out!!
Here's to less shedding! (and less sneezing!!)
mlbriggs - 05 Mar 2006 18:20 GMT
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:10:09 -0800, mlabofski wrote:

>> > Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
>> > are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and dustier
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> Marcia

That is amazing!  I could make a whole new cat from the hair I can comb
off of my cat.   MLB
Jo Firey - 22 Feb 2006 22:01 GMT
> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> not a lot. I need something to strip the undercoat of dead hair
> quickly.Any advice?

Petsmart has a small silicone rubber type brush that has long "teeth".  The
one we have us purple and shaped like a cat and fits nicely into the palm of
your hand.  When you brush the cats, it has hangs on to most of the loose
fur so it doesn't go everywhere.  You can just peel it out and throw it away
as it fills up.

And the cats and dog love how it feels on their skin.  Now if I could just
find it.  I'm sure Kayla hauled if off somewhere.

Jo
Steve Touchstone - 25 Feb 2006 09:41 GMT
>And the cats and dog love how it feels on their skin.  Now if I could just
>find it.  I'm sure Kayla hauled if off somewhere.

At one time I had three brushes - all the simple wire on one side and
regular bristles on the other. The idea was that Little Bit, Sammy and
Rocky all had their own, though it usually worked out that I just
grabbed the nearest brush no matter who was getting brushed. LB LOVES
being brushed, Sammy likes it for a couple minutes, then wants to
fight the brush and ends up hauling it away somewhere, brushing was
one sure way to get Rocky drooling in bliss, and Spotty hasn't hasn't
decided yet - she likes the feeling but isn't sure if letting a hoomin
groom her is a good thing or not.

Anyway, with Sammy forever hauling off the brushes and taking them
somewhere, I may still have three brushes, but I have no idea where
they all are. I know one is in the carrier where Sammy took it some
months back, one is on the desk next to the bed where LB expects to be
brushed nightly before I go to sleep, and the other brush is....
somewhere in this apartment.
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Chakolate - 23 Feb 2006 03:36 GMT
"meee" <pleaseaskfirst@meee.com> wrote in news:hySKf.13490$yK1.10778
@news-server.bigpond.net.au:

> The comb type helps some, but not a lot. I need something
> to strip the undercoat of dead hair quickly.Any advice?

You prolly already know this, but you can get a lot of hair up quickly
off of most anything, furniture, whatever, by putting on latex gloves and
just sweeping your hands across it.  It also works on the cats, but it's
not as efficient as a brush, I think.

Chak

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meee - 23 Feb 2006 04:00 GMT
> "meee" <pleaseaskfirst@meee.com> wrote in news:hySKf.13490$yK1.10778
> @news-server.bigpond.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Chak

No, I didn't know that!! Thanks, that's a good tip!!
> In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it
> would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples
> might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal
> time in physics classrooms.
>  --Stephen Jay Gould
Pat - 23 Feb 2006 06:03 GMT
I haven't tried this one but it looks like a goodie:

http://www.arcatapet.com/item.cfm?cat=5982

What I use sometimes on the longhairs is a special comb designed to break up
matted fur. I looked all over for it the right tool and finally found in a
local store but I forgot what it's called and can't find it right now. When
I do find it I will let you know the name... It works great, if you need to
break matts with it you can but otherwise it really pulls out the dead
hairs.

The store that carries it might ship you one if you can't find the same tool
locally. It came from:

All Pet Supplies & Equine Ctr
1611 West Republic Rd
Springfield, MO 65807
(417) 877-4711
badwilson - 23 Feb 2006 10:06 GMT
> I haven't tried this one but it looks like a goodie:
>
> http://www.arcatapet.com/item.cfm?cat=5982

I've got one of those shedding blades.  It gets a heck of a lot of fur
off.  The only problem is that the fur hasn't got any teeth to get stuck
in and goes flying all over the place.  The best way to use it is
outside on a windy day!
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mlbriggs - 05 Mar 2006 18:11 GMT
>> I haven't tried this one but it looks like a goodie:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> in and goes flying all over the place.  The best way to use it is
> outside on a windy day!

I had a double sided comb for Princess (RB) which I have used for the past
nine years on TuTu.  I recently lost it.  Today I conducted a computer
search for a replacement.  I finally found one -- guess what?  It is a
"lice comb"   TuTu does not have lice but the fine side is great for her
tummy fur and the broader side is great for her back.

If anyone is interested, I found it at AmericaRX.com   I bought 3 at
$1.99  each.

MLB
meee - 05 Mar 2006 23:23 GMT
>>> I haven't tried this one but it looks like a goodie:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> MLB

I've got one of those!! have to try it now.
Sandra - 06 Mar 2006 10:59 GMT
I use the Furminator on my two British Shorthairs. In the garden. On a windy
day. Fur flies everywhere, but at least it is not in the house! My indoor
cats shed a lot and this helps keep it down somewhat.

Sandra
MaryL - 23 Feb 2006 09:49 GMT
> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> not a lot. I need something to strip the undercoat of dead hair
> quickly.Any advice?

My favorite brush is Zoom Groom (made by KONG).  It quickly extracts an
*amazing* amount of fur.

These brushes are available at a number of sites.  There is also a d*g
version, so be sure to get the one that says "for cats."  You can see a
picture here:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=1&pCatId=3334

MaryL
Chakolate - 24 Feb 2006 04:59 GMT
> My favorite brush is Zoom Groom (made by KONG).  It quickly extracts
> an *amazing* amount of fur.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=1&pCatId=
> 3334

And quite reasonably priced, too.  Does the cat like it?

Chak

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MaryL - 24 Feb 2006 08:53 GMT
>> My favorite brush is Zoom Groom (made by KONG).  It quickly extracts
>> an *amazing* amount of fur.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Chak

Yes, both cats love it.  The groomer has long "teeth" that extract an
amazing amount of fur.  However, the teeth are rubberized and flexible, so I
think the brush also has a sort of massage feel to the cats.  It's easy to
grip, too -- important to me because I have some arthritis in my fingers.

MaryL
Sue - 24 Feb 2006 00:52 GMT
> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her kittens
> are all fluffy and prone to shed, our house is becoming furrier and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> not a lot. I need something to strip the undercoat of dead hair
> quickly.Any advice?

what you are looking for, look no further:
http://handicappedpets.com/brush/furm/index.htm

for a really dense coat like you are talking about.  We used something so
very similar on horses' winter coats years ago.  Don't see such for horses
now that vacuums are chic, but perhaps they adapted it to the little ones.
meee - 24 Feb 2006 01:14 GMT
>> Jasmine's shedding is becoming more and more of a problem!! As her
>> kittens
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> very similar on horses' winter coats years ago.  Don't see such for horses
> now that vacuums are chic, but perhaps they adapted it to the little ones.
Wow that is amazing!! Ok I'm bookmarking that page!!

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