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Stargazer7272 - 13 Feb 2006 23:14 GMT
Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?
wafflycat - 13 Feb 2006 23:27 GMT
> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
> neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Your kitten is exhibiting normal kitten behaviour. He is 'milk treading'
which is what kittens do to the mother cat whilst suckling as it stimulates
the flow of milk. Your kitten is being a kitten - with you as surrogate
mother. It means he is content and feeling secure. As he grows older he will
do it less often. In the meantime, a piece of cloth between you & the area
he is milk treading will protect your skin.

Cheers, helen s
Enfilade - 14 Feb 2006 14:17 GMT
> > Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
> > kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
> > neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Why would you want to?  He is showing he loves you :)

If the knead is sharp and uncomfortable, trim his claws.  (This can be
done with a trimmer bought at a pet store--the first few times he will
resist, but once he gets used to it, he will sit quietly for it.  It is
also easier on your rugs and furniture)

3 of our 4 knead.

--Fil
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Feb 2006 23:49 GMT
> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
> neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

WHY?? That sounds adorable.

You might try clipping his claws, if that's the reason the kneading
bothers you. Then you won't get holes poked in you, anyway!

Joyce
MaryL - 14 Feb 2006 00:04 GMT
> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
> neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Holly and Duffy do that, and I see it as a sign of contentment and even
love.  Holly considers it her "duty" to start kneading as soon as I wake up.
I just pull the bedspread up over my shoulders and let her "knead away."  If
her claws get too long, it's time for a trim.

MaryL
Baha - 14 Feb 2006 00:24 GMT
>> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
>> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>MaryL

About 3 months ago, Stosh took it upon himself to become the house masseur,
and he takes it quite seriously. If I don't go to bed when he wants to get
into knead mode, he actually comes to scold me and lets me know by hopping on
the bed and staring at me, then the pillows, then back at me. He doesn't like
to get petted while he's kneading, and will back off if I try. It's like it's
his job to give Mama her nightly massage. I've gotten used to it, and my
husband has decided he doesn't mind sharing me with the other man of the
house. I think it's adorable, myself, but I'm a bit puzzled. Stosh will be 3
years old in May, and I don't know why he's gotten into kitten mode. I figure
he's just extending his protective and terrtorial duties..

Blessed be,
Baha
Christina Websell - 14 Feb 2006 00:45 GMT
>>> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
>>> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> figure
> he's just extending his protective and terrtorial duties..

When Kitty FC deigns to climb on to my chest for a bit of kittylove she
*always* kneads while she rubs her face all over mine purring her head off
and headbutting, so it cannot be entirely a kitten thing.  She is getting on
for 20 years old!
Boyfie will only come up on me if I've laid still for a while (that is not
often) and it's very quiet.  Then he kneads too.
It's not particularly comfortable for me I have to admit, as there are
always claws involved, but I think it means they are happy, content and feel
safe with me.  For that reason I just grin and bear it.
It took a long time to gain the confidence of these two cats.  I'm not about
to throw it all out the window by tossing them off me for kneading and
pricking with their claws when they do it.

Tweed
Chakolate - 14 Feb 2006 02:16 GMT
> It's not particularly comfortable for me I have to admit, as there are
> always claws involved, but I think it means they are happy, content
> and feel safe with me.  For that reason I just grin and bear it.

I find that if I say 'Ow' rather loudly both cats back off a bit in their
kneading.  I know they can feel that they're contacting skin when they
knead - they never break the skin.

Chak

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kilikini - 14 Feb 2006 13:03 GMT
> > It's not particularly comfortable for me I have to admit, as there are
> > always claws involved, but I think it means they are happy, content
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>
> Chak

That's what I do, too.  I say "Ow!" and Tyrone stops.  I wouldn't mind his
kneading except that it ruins my clothes, sheets, pillows, bedspread, couch
and my skin!  With him, all I have to do is rub on him and he's instantly
kneading the hardwood floor!  My husband has it figured out.  :~)  He picks
Tyrone up and plops him belly-side-up in his arms.  Tyrone kneads the air
then.  <g>

kili
Adrian - 14 Feb 2006 15:22 GMT
>>> It's not particularly comfortable for me I have to admit, as there
>>> are always claws involved, but I think it means they are happy,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> kili

LOL, I read that as you saying "Owl" I thought, what have owls got to do
with it. ;-)
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Steve Touchstone - 15 Feb 2006 09:10 GMT
>> It's not particularly comfortable for me I have to admit, as there are
>> always claws involved, but I think it means they are happy, content
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>kneading.  I know they can feel that they're contacting skin when they
>knead - they never break the skin.

This method worked well with both Sammy and Little Bit. I wear
overalls a lot, and both have learned that they can really go to town
with their kneading as long as they knead the overalls. LB has a
really cute reaction to my saying ow! if she happens to reach up too
high and claws me - she reaches up and puts her paw on my lips as if
to tell me to stop whining. Spotty never uses her claws, but she is a
VERY energic kneader who seems to be able to exert more pressure than
she weighs. Rocky never learned not to use his claws, but I kept a
towel next to the recliner which helped.

I agree with the others that kneading just indicates a happy contented
cat, and you can usually get them to understand that hoomin are easily
punctured and claws aren't appreciated.
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wafflycat - 14 Feb 2006 11:12 GMT
> When Kitty FC deigns to climb on to my chest for a bit of kittylove she
> *always* kneads while she rubs her face all over mine purring her head off
> and headbutting, so it cannot be entirely a kitten thing.  She is getting
> on for 20 years old!

It's cats displaying kittenish behaviour as they see you as a surrogate
mother figure. My three still do it to me even though they are 'senior'
cats.

Cheers, helen s
badwilson - 14 Feb 2006 15:08 GMT
>> When Kitty FC deigns to climb on to my chest for a bit of kittylove
>> she *always* kneads while she rubs her face all over mine purring
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s

Vino was bottle fed by hoomins and he never kneads.  I'd love it if he
did, I think it sounds adorable!
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wafflycat - 14 Feb 2006 17:24 GMT
> Vino was bottle fed by hoomins and he never kneads.  I'd love it if he
> did, I think it sounds adorable!

Awww... sad! Any kittens I've bottle or dropper fed have kneaded. Mind you,
I do purr to them as well :-)

Cheers, helen s
Christina Websell - 14 Feb 2006 17:54 GMT
<snip>

> Vino was bottle fed by hoomins and he never kneads.  I'd love it if he
> did, I think it sounds adorable!

It *is* adorable in one way.  My cats only do it when they are feeling very
happy, comfortable, and safe resting on me.  I like to think that they trust
me.  They have both gone through difficult times before they recognised a
sucker when they saw one and landed on me and both have been very nervous
with me in the past.
However, don't be too disappointed that Vino doesn't knead.  It hurts quite
a bit.  To knead "properly" involves the claws going out and in at the same
time as the front paws are going up and down on a delicate part of your
anatomy.
It is not acceptable to put the cat back on the floor for a moment while you
arm yourself with more skin protection (anything, towels, more sweaters..)
so you can actually enjoy the kneading.
This causes great offence to the cat.  You can forget your idea that they
will jump back on and continue kneading on top of your "protection."
No, you will just sit there all evening covered in towels and woolly
garments entirely alone, cats are elsewhere sniggering, and looking rather
ridiculous should a friend decide to visit unannounced.

Tweed
badwilson - 15 Feb 2006 02:42 GMT
> <snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> at the same time as the front paws are going up and down on a
> delicate part of your anatomy.

I keep Vino's claws clipped short all the time, so he probably couldn't
cause much pain anyway.  That's why it would be so perfect if he did it!

> It is not acceptable to put the cat back on the floor for a moment
> while you arm yourself with more skin protection (anything, towels,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> garments entirely alone, cats are elsewhere sniggering, and looking
> rather ridiculous should a friend decide to visit unannounced.

LOL!
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Chakolate - 15 Feb 2006 04:14 GMT
> I keep Vino's claws clipped short all the time, so he probably
> couldn't cause much pain anyway.  That's why it would be so perfect if
> he did it!

Do you mind if I ask what your preferred method is?  I have a hard time
doing it, because I'm alone with no one to help.  The other cat is no
help, he just laughs because he doesn't realize it's going to be his
turn next.  

Chak

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time in physics classrooms.
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badwilson - 15 Feb 2006 04:54 GMT
>> I keep Vino's claws clipped short all the time, so he probably
>> couldn't cause much pain anyway.  That's why it would be so perfect
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Chak

I began clipping Vino's claws when we first got him, at 7 weeks of age.
He's so used to it, he actually enjoys it.  I sit on the floor with Vino
in my lap, belly up.  He holds out his paw and I clip the claws.  When I
get to the last one on the last rear paw, he makes a yowling noise.
"Done yet?!?!".  I let him off my lap and he sits next to me and licks
himself.  I give him a treat.  Reapeat every 2 weeks.
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Marina - 14 Feb 2006 17:59 GMT
>>> When Kitty FC deigns to climb on to my chest for a bit of kittylove
>>> she *always* kneads while she rubs her face all over mine purring
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Vino was bottle fed by hoomins and he never kneads.  I'd love it if he
> did, I think it sounds adorable!

Caliban kneads a lot. He likes to knead my neck or my face, and that's
not very nice of course. I try to move his paws to some area where
there's cloth between my skin and his claws.

Caliban was separated from his mum too early, but Miranda wasn't, yet
she kneads a lot, too. She was partly bottle-fed, because her mum didn't
have enough milk for the kittens. Luckily, she kneads blankies, not me.
Unless I'm under the blankie, and then she will walk all over me,
stopping to knead a bit here and there.

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Christina Websell - 14 Feb 2006 17:33 GMT
>> When Kitty FC deigns to climb on to my chest for a bit of kittylove she
>> *always* kneads while she rubs her face all over mine purring her head
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s

That's very interesting.  I'm surprised that KFC feels that she needs a
surrogate mum as she is very capable of looking after herself and did for
many years before she claimed me.
OTOH, I *am* acting a bit like a mother to her I suppose.  I provide her
with food and warmth and look after her comfort;  which leads me to wonder
why all cats don't knead their hoomin care-providers.

Tweed
wafflycat - 14 Feb 2006 17:53 GMT
> That's very interesting.  I'm surprised that KFC feels that she needs a
> surrogate mum as she is very capable of looking after herself and did for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

There has been research done on this. Shall have to google it when a I get a
round tuit. Our felines have a dual life. Outside their human abodes, they
are full, wild hunters, yet the same cat in contact with we humans goes into
kitten mode. My three are prize specimens of this dual purrsonality! Why
should all cats do this, though? Just like us they are individuals with
individual personalities and are shaped by their genes and their
environments in they each have different life experiences.

Cheers, helen s
MaryL - 14 Feb 2006 02:13 GMT
>>> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
>>> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Holly will be 11 years old in June, and Duffy is approximately 7 years
old -- so they're not kittens, either, but they are both "kneaders."

MaryL
Wayne Mitchell - 14 Feb 2006 03:23 GMT
>He doesn't like
>to get petted while he's kneading, and will back off if I try.

Will is the same way.  He doesn't often knead directly on me,
preferring a piece of my clothing laid on the bed, or even an
exposed bit of the soft under-blanket.  And he gets irritated if
I move to pet him before he's done the job to his satisfaction
-- which can be a hardship, because he purrs very loud and
attractively while doing it.

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SuzQ - 14 Feb 2006 12:35 GMT
Spicey does this when she's on the back of the love seat. I think its cute.
She'll be 3 in March.
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Anna - 14 Feb 2006 00:31 GMT
>Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
>kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
>neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Aaaaww, I *love*when they do that.  You should take it as a compliment; he's
acting like you're his momma.  They do that to their mom's tummy when they're
suckling.  Oh, I see why - he's doing it to your neck, might hurt a bit there.
I second what helen s said - try putting something there like a cloth.  Some
are "kneaders" more than others, your's might grow out of it but might not.
My 14 year old still does it to my arm but I trim her nails so it doesn't
hurt at all.

Anna
Jo Firey - 14 Feb 2006 02:13 GMT
> Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
> kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
> neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Why?

That is like wanting to make him stop purring.

A loud ouch and gentle swat will usually get them to be more gentle about
it.

I even dress in layers so I won't catch the sharp end of claws in the
process.

Jo
Karen AKA Kajikit - 14 Feb 2006 14:53 GMT
>Anyone know what to do to make a cat stop kneading? I have a 9 month old
>kitten who only kneads at night time and then snuggles his head into my
>neck area where he is kneading? Any ideas on how to stop him?

Why stop it? It's adorable and it shows how much he loves and trusts
you... just scoot him to where you would prefer he knead (like over
the blanket instead of under it, and let him knead away...

Scout doesn't knead people very much - she usually turns around and
kneads the air... I feel honoured when she occasionally consents to
knead on me! I'm not so honoured by her sister Silver - Silver likes
to knead at night or in the early morning, and she kneads HARD,
usually with her butt in your face and her front paws right at your
groin... I think she likes to live dangerously :)

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