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gracecat - 29 Sep 2004 04:09 GMT
I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
wasn't the first one of it's kind, nor will it be the last. It hurts but,
there's also a very faint ray of hope that we'll adjust, and learn to be a
happy home again, that while we'll always dreadfully miss Eve... It won't be
such a heavy weight. And believe me folks, the weight on my shoulders is
getting heavier instead of better. I felt better the day after her funeral
than I have today. It's hard doesn't begin to convey the enormity. Of
course, I don't have to explain that, ya'll understand somewhat that yes, it
is a huge void in my life.

I've been pulling in, shutting people out lately but in the last couple
days, I've wanted to be surrounded instead. I'm talking. I'm socializing or
just.. in town shopping. But it's still hard even though I'm either jamming
along with the radio, laughing over a joke or a person may look at me and
say she's doing good. it's there, it's under the surface, it's lurking.. I
don't ever forget, not even for a moment. And frankly, that scares me. It
scares me that I have to go through life with this underneath, crushing my
heart...

I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
little while at a time.

Grace
babbling again
Mishi - 29 Sep 2004 04:45 GMT
< I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
little while at a time.

Grace
babbling again >

Grace,
After my sister, niece and nephews were murdered by my brother in law (he
committed suicide right after), my family was in shock. We just took it one
breath at a time in the beginning, then a minute at a time. It has been 35
years now, and it is still painful. My mom asked me to tell you she knows
how you feel, and it does get better, but it will take time. {{{Hugs}}}

Patti
Christine Burel - 29 Sep 2004 04:57 GMT
> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again

Babbling is good, Grace -- it's helping you let out what you are feeling --
having a channel for expression is sooo much better than to refuse to
acknowledge your loss within yourself. I am honored by your willingness to
share with us.
Just do what you can do in each day, live from moment to moment if you need
to, and take whatever time you need to learn to move forward -- try to look
for small daily things you can find some pleasure in, be aware of nature if
you take a walk. Be kind to yourself and take care of your health (I'd
suggest you might consider taking a "stress complex" vitamin, i.e., B
complex and C--it will help you keep your strength up).

purrs,
Christine
jmcquown - 29 Sep 2004 07:24 GMT
> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I
> started to think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again

Think of this as a huge diary that talks back.  No, not talks back, but
rather talks to you in return... but you don't have to listen if you don't
want to and you can always just walk away for a bit as needed.

I have never experienced anything like you are dealing with.  But over the
course of 44 years I've found writing to be very therapeutic.  And if we can
help in any small way, please know we will do everything in our power to do
so.

Hugs and purrs,
Jill
Nanny - 29 Sep 2004 08:22 GMT
It will always be underneath, but not as crushing as it is now, and the
really sharp edges will soften in time. And I can see by the way you talk
that you also have a force inside of you that doesn't give up.

Hugs, Nanny

> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again
Jeanette - 29 Sep 2004 08:24 GMT
> And frankly, that scares me. It
> scares me that I have to go through life with this underneath, crushing my
> heart...
>
> I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
> little while at a time.

Grace, whilst I don't have any personal experience of this (I'm
involuntarily childless), my closest friend lost her five month boy to cot
death, about ten years ago. He was her first child, and we were all numbed.
She's had two children since, lovely bright kids who know about Jamie, their
'big brother'. We talk about Jamie now and again, and she says that every
morning,  he's the first thing she thinks of, she's always aware of her
loss. That might sound awful, but it's not, she wouldn't want to forget
about him. She is happy and busy, has a full life, and enjoys the children
that she does have. Healing a wound as huge as this will take time, but it
will come.

Whenever I've been bereaved, I know that I've gone through this stage too,
after a while it's not just the shock of the death that hurts, it's the fact
that it's so long since you saw your loved one and you're missing them, pure
and simple.

Jeanette
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Sep 2004 09:07 GMT
> And believe me folks, the weight on my shoulders is getting heavier
> instead of better. I felt better the day after her funeral than I have
> today.

My experience with loss and grief is that the healing is not linear.
It doesn't get better every day until it's gone - it's a much more
up-and-down, better-and-worse kind of thing. Some days I'd feel better,
and then later, I'd feel much worse, and think, "Hey, I thought I got
past these feelings already."

When my partner of 15 years ended our relationship, it took me over two
years to get over it. But I wasn't totally miserable every minute of
those two-plus years. Sometimes I felt great, other times, very sad, still
other times, angry, and so on. There were times when I'd be very surprised
at how strong the pain could be, after feeling OK for a long stretch.

I wouldn't compare a relationship breakup to losing a child, but on some
levels, loss is loss - and I think one thing all grieving processes have
in common is that it happens unevenly. You heal a little, and then it all
comes back for a while, then it seems like it's the same forever, then
there's another healing spurt, and so on.

> it's there, it's under the surface, it's lurking.. I don't ever
> forget, not even for a moment. And frankly, that scares me. It scares
> me that I have to go through life with this underneath, crushing my
> heart...

(((Grace)))

I think I know what you mean - the fear that you will never be happy
again, that you'll have to live the rest of your life in this amount of
horrible pain. But people do heal, from all kinds of terrible tragedies.
They may never be the same as they were before, but they are able to
rediscover that life is worth living. I pray that you will discover this
again soon, too.

Purrs,
Joyce
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 29 Sep 2004 09:47 GMT
>I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
>little while at a time.
>
>Grace
>babbling again

babble all you want, Grace. You will always miss Eve. Rightly and normally so.
But you will also learn to be happy again and the pain of losing Eve will be
eased by the lovely memories of the joy she brought to you. Give yourself
*time* - a lot of time, unlimited amounts of time. Be gentle on yourself.
However you grieve is okay. Be gentle on yourself when you have a bad day, a
bad hour, a bad minute or second, a bad week. Don't feel guilty when you have
happy times. You'll never forget Eve, and I'm glad she was in the world - that
you shared your pregnancy and motherhood with us here on the newsgroup. She
won't ever be forgotten here either. The funeral was a chance for everyone to
say a formal goodbye to Eve - to be there physically, to show support. That
would help I think? Once that day was over, yes, the heaviness would be quick
to come down again. Know you are among friends here. Lurk, post or participate
however helps you at any given time.

{{{{{{{{{{ Grace }}}}}}}}}}

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CatNipped - 29 Sep 2004 14:42 GMT
{{{{{{{{{{Grace}}}}}}}}}}

>I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> it
> is a huge void in my life.

Yes, there always will be a place in your heart that Eve will always occupy,
that's how it should be.  But over time, *lots* of time, that place won't
bring you the sharp hurt it does now, it will bring you fond memories of Eve
and the joy she brought to you and her family in the brief time that she was
with you.

> I've been pulling in, shutting people out lately but in the last couple
> days, I've wanted to be surrounded instead. I'm talking. I'm socializing
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> scares me that I have to go through life with this underneath, crushing my
> heart...

I can't say that I've felt what you feel (forgive me, but thank God),
however I can understand it, because as a mother, and a grandmother, I've
imagined what it would be like to lose one of mine, and just the imagined
pain us unbearable - I have to stop myself thinking about it.  *Having* to
think about it all the time would be terrifying {{{{{Grace}}}}}.  But,
having talked to people who have had to go through it, the pain does ease -
it won't always be this bad (and, perversely, that is *also* a scary
thought).

> I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
> little while at a time.
>
> Grace
> babbling again

Grace, don't *EVER* feel bad about "babbling" here - we all want to be able
to help ease your pain in whatever way we can.  If it's just to read your
posts, send our purrs and prayers, and give you cyber hugs, then that's what
we'll do for as long as you need us to.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Kreisleriana - 29 Sep 2004 15:05 GMT
>I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
>think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
>little while at a time.

Babble all you want, Grace.   You are discivering that life is full of
tiny, seemingly insignificant pleasures that will take you away from
your grief for short spurts of time.  And even if they can't make your
grief go away-- nothing can--  those tiny things can be the saving of
you.

Theresa
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O J - 29 Sep 2004 17:03 GMT
On Tue, 28 Sep, Grace wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------
>I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
>little while at a time.

When I was younger I used to like to think I knew what to say to
people who had suffered a loss.  Now all I can think of to say is
{{{{{{{{{{Grace}}}}}}}}}, but the hugs come from the heart.

Purrs and Hugs,
O J
Christina Websell - 29 Sep 2004 20:10 GMT
> On Tue, 28 Sep, Grace wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Purrs and Hugs,
> O J

What I needed in my bereavement was that people acknowledged it.  I would
far rather that a neighbour crossed the road to me to say something like I'm
sorry for your loss than that they crossed the road  to the other side to
avoid me.  That hurt.
Please don't cross the road because you are uncomfortable about what to say.
You only need to say something like "I heard about your loss and I'm so
sorry"  That's enough.  You don't need to get into a long conversation about
it and you can walk away then.
Somehow it helps, don't ask me why, that someone tries to understand and has
sympathy.

Tweed
Ow.  Everything hurts.  I have ouchies.
Takayuki - 29 Sep 2004 17:04 GMT
>I've been pulling in, shutting people out lately but in the last couple
>days, I've wanted to be surrounded instead. I'm talking. I'm socializing or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
>little while at a time.

It's all so sad, and you've been through so much, especially for
someone as young as you are.  I once saw a documentary on a woman who
adopts children with terminal illnesses, and she said that even though
there have been so many, she never forgets any of the children, that
there's always something that reminds her of something one of them
said or did.
Steve Touchstone - 29 Sep 2004 19:14 GMT
<snip>
>I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
>little while at a time.
>
>Grace
>babbling again

Babble away, no one here minds, and some who have gone through
terrible losses understand. At this time, I think all you can expect
is to be able to function through the pain of your loss. In time, and
for any normal person it does take time, I expect the pain will be
less intrusive, as you're able to concentrate on the good memories
rather than the loss.

Purrs and cyber hugs continue no-stop
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Annie Wxill - 30 Sep 2004 00:29 GMT
.... It  scares me that I have to go through life with this underneath,
crushing my
> heart...
> I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
> little while at a time.
> Grace

(((((Grace))))) Many hugs to you and Abi and Jody.
I wish I could do more.
Take care,
Annie
Tanada - 30 Sep 2004 04:07 GMT
> I've been pulling in, shutting people out lately but in the last couple
> days, I've wanted to be surrounded instead. I'm talking. I'm socializing or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
> little while at a time.

Sweetie, don't worry about it.  It hasn't been that long and grief takes
it's own time to "heal" for lack of a better word.  I remember after my
mom died (I was 15) I couldn't figure out why the sun was shining.  It
was wrong that it should be so bright and pretty out and I had so much
pain and emptiness within.

It's been 34 years and I still have periods of really missing her, but I
did learn that one will have happiness again and that life will go on,
just not with that person.

Someday, you'll forget for a while, then remember with a jolt.  Someday,
you'll find yourself thinking about how much Eve would have enjoyed
something special, like a field of wild flowers, and it won't hurt.
Each person has their own time frame, and rushing one's grief won't help
you heal.  Just hang in there and know that we all love you and are
thinking of you.

Pam S.
Sam Nash - 30 Sep 2004 04:30 GMT
<snip>
I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
little while at a time.

> Grace
> babbling again

Fell free to babble any time Grace.  We're still praying and purring for you
and your family.
Sam
Yowie - 30 Sep 2004 04:52 GMT
> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again

Babble away sweetie. I'm glad that you feel comfortable and trust us enough
to feel that you *can* babble here.

I apologise if this sounds weird or insensitive or godawful selfish, I've
written it a bazillion times, deleted it, written it again... pardon the
clumsy expression and I hope you can see what I mean, and feel:

Most of us have never met you or your family, yet on hearing the news, we
cried and grieved for the loss of "our" Eve too. That grief of course is
*nothing* compared to yours, or the ones closest to Eve, but it was suredly
there too. RPCA is a family, the lack of blood relations and the
geographical distance is irrelevant to the ties we have developed between
us, we all felt pain and heartache at the news, because one of our own had
passed. So when you come here and "babble" you are not only expressing *your
feelings* but also allowing *us* also express our feelings about Eve, and
helping us heal right along with you. So please don't feel like you are
intruding or posting out of turn or wasting our time or have *any* negative
feelings or thoughts about sharing what you want to share with us, because
you aren't, its more than welcome. After all, isn't that what family is all
about? We cry togehter as well as laugh together.

Thank you for letting us cry with you.

Hugs,

Vicky (Yowie)
LOL - 30 Sep 2004 08:36 GMT
> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again

((((((Grace))))))

Of course you won't forget.  But I think you'll find eventually that
life can still be worthwhile, and there is still joy.  Please do
whatever feels right, and know that we are purring and praying for
you.

------
Krista
Adrian - 30 Sep 2004 15:28 GMT
> I just pray that months later, I'll be sincerely happy. At least for a
> little while at a time.
>
> Grace
> babbling again

Babble as much as you need to, we all care.
Hugs and purrs.
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Julie Cook - 30 Sep 2004 19:04 GMT
{{{{{{{{{{Grace}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey and Sam
polonca12000 - 02 Oct 2004 21:28 GMT
We are thinking of you and are here for you.
Lots of gentle hugs and purrs,
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Polonca & Soncek

> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again
Jean Hobbs - 13 Oct 2004 14:01 GMT
Grace, No you will never forget, Not Eve, nor the pain of her death,
but you will eventually be able to look back and smile at the funny things
she did or said, and the beauty of her smile, and the *burden* will lift a
little.
I lost my son thirty years agoand I haven't forgotten one thing about him,
but the *burden* itself is not as great as it was, and I like to talk about
him to people who knew him, and to wonder  what he would be like today.
Many Hugs to you and your family, and Purrs that your healing will
continue.
    Jean.P.
> I read in the news that a three year old was killed today. And I started to
> think, that I'm not the only one that has endured this. And our accident
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Grace
> babbling again
 
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