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dnr - 10 Feb 2006 20:39 GMT
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/
sfl-scold10feb10,0,75680l63.story?coll=sfla-home-
headlines

I have arranged for the short cold blast described
above - which blew through here last night, leaving
a shallow snow blanket on our immediate area -
to go to *your* area very soon. Enjoy, and imagine
you're back in KY (but you won't get the snow). LOL.
NMR - 10 Feb 2006 20:49 GMT
that is a little to far down I am near Daytona beach  which is up north
towards the top part of the state.   I has been getting down into the lower
40's here  60 -80 during the day  still not what it is supposed to be here
is our forecast for central florida

Kentucky get a heck of a lot colder than this Where I was raised at you got
snowed in for quite a while but now with civilization expanding  we got
major highways thru the area  They even got themselves a super walmart which
did the area a world of good there was to little of small business in the
area. they as the deal bought them out made them rich.

http://www.local6.com/weather/index.html
Inland Volusia County
Tonight: partly cloudy. Not as cool. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds
around 5 mph.
Saturday: partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers in the morning, then
mostly cloudy with showers likely and isolated afternoon thunderstorms.
Breezy. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds in the afternoon. Highs
in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.
Saturday Night: mostly cloudy with isolated showers in the evening, then
partly cloudy after midnight. Colder. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds
10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. Lowest wind chill readings 29 to 32
after midnight.
Sunday: mostly sunny. Cooler. Highs in the lower 50s. Northwest winds 10 to
15 mph.
Sunday Night: mostly clear. Colder. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds
around 5 mph.
Monday: mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 50s.
Monday Night: mostly clear. Patchy frost in the outlying areas after
midnight. Lows in the mid 30s.
Tuesday And Tuesday Night: partly cloudy. Warmer. Highs in the lower 60s.
Lows in the lower 40s.
Wednesday And Wednesday Night: partly cloudy. Highs in the lower 70s. Lows
in the lower 50s.
Thursday Through Friday: partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s. Lows in the
upper 50s.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Feb 2006 20:56 GMT
> that is a little to far down I am near Daytona beach  which is
> up north towards the top part of the state.  

Hey NMR, I was just in your area last week! I visited my mom - she was
living in Ormond, but she just moved down to Stuart, which is in Martin
county. I was there to help her pack and move.

Joyce
NMR - 10 Feb 2006 21:37 GMT
> > that is a little to far down I am near Daytona beach  which is
> > up north towards the top part of the state.
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>
> Joyce

Ormond is about 40 minutes away by I-4 and I -95
You should have said something could have met you for lunch :-)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Feb 2006 22:09 GMT
> Ormond is about 40 minutes away by I-4 and I -95
> You should have said something could have met you for lunch :-)

Sorry! I don't like to advertise on a worldwide network that I'm
thousands of miles away from home. :)

Are you on Freecycle by any chance? I did join the Daytona Beach
group for two weeks to have someplace to offer items from my mom's
place that were good enough to give away. So if you're on there, you
might have seen some of my posts.

Joyce
NMR - 10 Feb 2006 22:14 GMT
> > Ormond is about 40 minutes away by I-4 and I -95
> > You should have said something could have met you for lunch :-)
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>
> Joyce

No I am not  the only charity beside the cat kind  I am involved in is
habitat for humanity
dnr - 10 Feb 2006 23:07 GMT
> that is a little to far down I am near Daytona beach  which is up north
> towards the top part of the state.   I has been getting down into the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> which did the area a world of good there was to little of small business
> in the area. they as the deal bought them out made them rich.

Well, yes, I didn't realize exactly where you are, but I tried. Some of my
dearest pals are from Bowling Green, and your descriptions sound like
where they're from (what they've told me). I sent you a link from the
paper I used to get in Pompano Beach, where we lived for about 16
years....I'm originally from Miami, where it snowed ONCE when I
lived there, around 1976 or so. I was in backyard hanging clothes
and tiny flakes melted on my upstretched hands. I was thrilled to
death.
NMR - 10 Feb 2006 23:58 GMT
Dnr I am original from the south east side of Kentucky the nearest towns
were hazard, Whitesburg, Prestonsburg and moreshead.  I lived in the
unincorporated area in between up in the hills.  My family still has it
farms up there.
I always tell everyone would like to know what my homestead looked like
watch  the movie with Patrick swayze where he plays the hillbilly cop;  the
next of kin.
I miss the country life no one locks there door, we have Sunday get
together. people actually say hello to you and generally care about your
family.  you go into the restaurant everyone knows your name.  If you need
help raising a barn we have a barn raising party everyone turns out.    When
I was growing up the court house was the library, firestation, police
station. and the school.  There was a real soda fountain shop which was also
the feedstore and grocery store  till the A and P came in and we got a
piggly wiggly; which is gone now but I loved the piggly wiggly.  I used to
love the A and P  they had a pastry called the Spanish bar cake  can't find
it down here in the south anymore used to carry it at Kroger's but food lion
bought them out.

>> that is a little to far down I am near Daytona beach  which is up north
>> towards the top part of the state.   I has been getting down into the
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> and tiny flakes melted on my upstretched hands. I was thrilled to
> death.
Mishi - 11 Feb 2006 01:38 GMT
<Dnr I am original from the south east side of Kentucky the nearest
towns were hazard, Whitesburg, Prestonsburg and moreshead.  I lived in
the unincorporated area in between up in the hills.  My family still
has it farms up there. I always tell everyone would like to know what
my homestead looked like watch  the movie with Patrick swayze where he
plays the hillbilly cop;  the next of kin.
I miss the country life no one locks there door, we have Sunday get
together. people actually say hello to you and generally care about
your family.  you go into the restaurant everyone knows your name.  If
you need help raising a barn we have a barn raising party everyone
turns out.  When I was growing up the court house was the library,
firestation, police station. and the school.  There was a real soda
fountain shop which was also the feedstore and grocery store  till the
A and P came in and we got a piggly wiggly; which is gone now but I
loved the piggly wiggly.  I used to love the A and P  they had a
pastry called the Spanish bar cake  can't find it down here in the
south anymore used to carry it at Kroger's but food lion bought them
out. >

Hi Matthew,

I grew up in a small town in upstate NY.  The population at that time
was 100, but I think it is even smaller now.  The next town over had
an A & P, and I remember the Spanish Bar cakes. I haven't seen them in
years! Now you have me craving one! <G>  Some of the unusual (now)
things my mom used to buy were pickled pigs feet, pickled eggs, Head
Cheese (they call it something different in the south) , and Croghan
Bologna - a pickled sausage like kielbasa. My sister used to get brine
pickled mozerella cheese from Canada. YUM! My grandmother used to make
pickled deer heart - we used everything we could from the deer. (There
seems to be a pickle theme here...)

I miss those days - would give anything to have them back again.

Mishi
NMR - 11 Feb 2006 02:33 GMT
You just made me hungry :-)

I made a call once to A&P to see about ordering some but I had to order 100
gross cases did not have the shelf space for it at the stores or at my
house.  I would have gotten real fat after eating all them.  Pickled eggs
and pigs feet I can get those at a store chain called Cumberland Farms.
Time to start the car

But I did find a link to buy them on line http://tinyurl.com/dqqca

and I have a recipe to make the cake also

I think about that old time fountain shop and the soda jerks that ran them
getting a soda pop made with fresh syrup spending all the hard earned
allowance on one getting a old fashion rootbeer float served from the wooden
kegs with vanilla icecream added to them.
Sorry I got to stop talking about food my wife just knocked me up side the
head and said I was making her hungry.

I might be retired but I would love to open one of those shops up.  We don't
have any bigboys here yet but got a Johnny rockets but it still is not the
same
dnr - 11 Feb 2006 02:44 GMT
.  There was a real soda
> fountain shop which was also the feedstore and grocery store  till the
> A and P came in and we got a piggly wiggly; which is gone now but I
> loved the piggly wiggly.  I used to love the A and P  they had a
> pastry called the Spanish bar cake  can't find it down here in the
> south anymore used to carry it at Kroger's but food lion bought them
> out. >
,  The next town over had
> an A & P, and I remember the Spanish Bar cakes. I haven't seen them in
> years! Now you have me craving one! <G>  Some of the unusual (now)
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>
> I miss those days - would give anything to have them back again.

Ha. From my southern childhood, fond memories of MoonPies, Nehi
"pop", RC Cola, popsicles, and of course Twinkies....
and your fond memories of all that pickled stuff.....I never saw a
PigglyWiggly till I visited the Cajun cousins in LA, and every time
we went by it I would laugh & laugh at its name (I was 17). For
your yearning hearts' information: I have an email in at the corporate
HQ of A & P conglomerate re Spanish Bar Cake. I searched all
of its company stores (different stores, almost all states NE area)
and found NOTHING about this cake. Maybe we'll get lucky and
they'll send me a recipe, LOL. I never had any of this cake but I've
been told about it for years now and how good it was.
NMR - 11 Feb 2006 02:50 GMT
you want the recipe I have it here it is
http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/ubbs/archive/CAKESandFROSTINGS/Cake_A__P_Spanish_Ba
r_Cake.html


http://fitdv.recipezaar.com/32190

after 3/10 you can buy it here and they will ship it you
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=31784&
itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=spanish+bar+cake

dnr - 11 Feb 2006 06:49 GMT
> you want the recipe I have it here it is
> http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/ubbs/archive/CAKESandFROSTINGS/Cake_A__P_Spanish_Ba
r_Cake.html

> http://fitdv.recipezaar.com/32190
> after 3/10 you can buy it here and they will ship it you
> http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=31784&
itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=spanish+bar+cake

Thank you! Now I can finally taste it. The recipe looks easy and doesn't
call for any wierd, exotic ingredients, which I appreciate.When I was
growing up, local grocery in our neighborhood was called Margaret
Ann....which over years became Winn Dixie (now defunct).
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Feb 2006 15:06 GMT
snipped
> Ha. From my southern childhood, fond memories of MoonPies, Nehi
> "pop", RC Cola, popsicles, and of course Twinkies....

Heh. I was partial to Grapettes and Chocolate Soldiers. My sister
always got a Virginia Dare.
Favorite candies were Walnettos, and you had to be young with no
fillings  or crowns to eat them. Sticky!
I still drink a Chocolate Soldier once in a while. It's some kind of
bastardized, fake chocolate "milk."...but I doubt milk is in the
ingredients.
I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?

Sherry
NMR - 11 Feb 2006 17:23 GMT
it is basically carrot cake with out the nuts and using cinnamon  the
frosting  use a little lemon juice in it to give a lip smacking taste  it is
a mouth watering taste

> snipped
>> Ha. From my southern childhood, fond memories of MoonPies, Nehi
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>
> Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Feb 2006 22:08 GMT
> > I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?

> it is basically carrot cake with out the nuts and using cinnamon  the
> frosting  use a little lemon juice in it to give a lip smacking taste  it is
> a mouth watering taste

WOW!! That sounds wonderful. Is this what the recipe was for? (I didn't
follow that thread very carefully.) I'll have to go back and look. I love
carrot cake, *except* for the nuts. So not having the nuts is a vast
improvement, IMO. And lemon in the frosting (is it a cream cheese frosting
like on regular carrot cake?) does sound yummy.

Off to find that recipe...

Joyce
Charleen Welton - 11 Feb 2006 22:36 GMT
> > > I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?
>
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>
> Joyce

SPANISH BAR CAKE, SPANISH BAR CAKE, YAY!!
Yes, I'm yelling.  When I moved to Florida in 1989 I missed two food items
badly Howard's Green Piccalilli (which is now sold here and Spanish Bar
Cake.  Back to New England I go and no SBC, what!!!  Every trip there I
tried to find it.  No go. Here it is.  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
THANK YOU!
Charleen, who is not going to share the first bar, maybe the second, but
definitely not the first!!
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Feb 2006 23:22 GMT
> When I moved to Florida in 1989 I missed two food items
> badly Howard's Green Piccalilli (which is now sold here and Spanish Bar
> Cake.  Back to New England I go and no SBC, what!!!  Every trip there I
> tried to find it.  No go.

Are you saying that Spanish Bar Cake is a New England specialty? But I'm
from New England, and I've never heard of it!! I grew up there and lived
there 37 years. This is the first I've heard of it.

Joyce
Charleen Welton - 11 Feb 2006 23:43 GMT
> > When I moved to Florida in 1989 I missed two food items
> > badly Howard's Green Piccalilli (which is now sold here and Spanish Bar
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>
> Joyce

Joyce,
I can't say for sure it was a NE specialty but it was avaliable any time I
went shopping from the time I was a kid and went with my foks until the time
I moved.  It came in a white loaf box with a cellophane window, cost $1.29.
It was very popular and went quickly.  Have no idea why it was called
Spanish Bar Cake, maybe some one else knows. I never saw it in any other
part of the country.
Charleen
Mishi - 11 Feb 2006 23:44 GMT
> > When I moved to Florida in 1989 I missed two food items
> > badly Howard's Green Piccalilli (which is now sold here and Spanish Bar
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Joyce

Hi Joyce,

I am from way upstate NY (not far from the canadian border, near Lake
Placid) and I remember it being available in the A & P and a couple of
the smaller markets there. Very moist, very yummy! I am going home on
Tuesday for my uncle's funeral, and if I remember I will look for it
there.

Patti
NMR - 12 Feb 2006 05:31 GMT
Charleen Welton <ilikecats@cfl.rr.com>

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME

You are not the far away charleen I am in florida to near Daytona beach

I love spanish bar cake  have some of that and a rich cup of coffee in the
morning talk about awake me up
Christine K. - 12 Feb 2006 09:31 GMT
>  > > I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?
>
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>
> Joyce

The strange thing is that you all say it's without nuts, but the ones
that turned up with Google all seemed to have walnuts in them... Google
produced quite a few sites with recipes for Spanish Bar Cake.

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John F. Eldredge - 12 Feb 2006 13:36 GMT
>>  > > I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?
>>
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>that turned up with Google all seemed to have walnuts in them... Google
>produced quite a few sites with recipes for Spanish Bar Cake.

Also, the name should probably be parsed as Spanish "Bar Cake", rather
than "Spanish Bar" Cake.  Bar cake probably means that it is to be
baked in a square or rectangular pan, and sliced into bars, rather
than in a circular pan and sliced into wedges.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Feb 2006 20:09 GMT
> Also, the name should probably be parsed as Spanish "Bar Cake", rather
> than "Spanish Bar" Cake.  Bar cake probably means that it is to be
> baked in a square or rectangular pan, and sliced into bars, rather
> than in a circular pan and sliced into wedges.

As opposed to a cake that might be served in a Madrid tavern with
a pitcher of Sangria. :)

Joyce
NMR - 12 Feb 2006 17:37 GMT
>>  > > I never heard of a Spanish bar. What it is?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> turned up with Google all seemed to have walnuts in them... Google
> produced quite a few sites with recipes for Spanish Bar Cake.

they original one from A & P did not have them in it but most people have
eaten the carrot cake and associate it with the Spanish Bar cake
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Feb 2006 20:11 GMT
> they original one from A & P did not have them in it but most people have
> eaten the carrot cake and associate it with the Spanish Bar cake

By the way, the recipe that was posted here (that is, the URL to the
recipe posted here) did not include carrots, which is an ingredient I
consider essential to carrot cake. :) Also, the frosting for carrot
cake is made of cream cheese, which wasn't in that recipe either. So
I'm not so sure it's really that much like carrot cake. Maybe it's more
like spice cake?

Joyce
NMR - 12 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
> > they original one from A & P did not have them in it but most people
> > have
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>
> Joyce

Sorry my bad Joyce you are right spice cake is the best example but the
taste is well you will have to try it for yourself
:-)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Feb 2006 21:03 GMT
> Sorry my bad Joyce you are right spice cake is the best example but the
> taste is well you will have to try it for yourself

That's OK. I'm thinking of finding a regular carrot cake recipe and
just eliminating the nuts, while adding lemon to the frosting. Both of
those differences sound like excellent improvements to me!

Joyce
NMR - 12 Feb 2006 21:19 GMT
> > Sorry my bad Joyce you are right spice cake is the best example but the
> > taste is well you will have to try it for yourself
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Joyce

I knew I was good fro something :-D
dnr - 12 Feb 2006 22:26 GMT
>> > Sorry my bad Joyce you are right spice cake is the best example but the
>> > taste is well you will have to try it for yourself
>> That's OK. I'm thinking of finding a regular carrot cake recipe and
>> just eliminating the nuts, while adding lemon to the frosting. Both of
>> those differences sound like excellent improvements to me!
>> Joyce
I knew I was good fro something :-D

Reading you two's posts, I am going to doctor this recipe to my
liking, LOL, being a good baker with the ability to read a recipe
and visualize both appearance and taste of finished product:
I hate carrot cake, so will follow the carrot-less recipe to the letter
that way, BUT since I do like nuts and raisins, these will be added
to the spicy batter....
I also hate cream-cheese frosting on anything (cream cheese is only
great on bagels, IMHO) so will only dust top of finished loaf cake
(bar) with powdered sugar and see how that goes. Cake sounds
rich enough to stand on its own w/o frosting, anyway.
Thanks again, NMR. Who needs A. & P.?
Charleen Welton - 14 Feb 2006 15:30 GMT
> > they original one from A & P did not have them in it but most people
> > have
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Joyce

Correct, the original cake is a mild spice cake, it does not include
carrots, it also does not include nuts but does contain raisins. The correct
name is Spanish Bar Cake, Bar is for the shape.  It can be baked in loaf
pans or 9x13 and cut into bars.  The frosting is not, traditionally, cream
cheese frosting. It is a dark, very moist cake. And it is very, very, very
good!
Charleen

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