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scouty silver and stranger hate each other!

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Karen AKA Kajikit - 10 Feb 2006 18:51 GMT
so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
keyboard and did something weird to it... )

Anyway, Scouty and Silver are FURIOUS about having another cat in the
house, even shut in a carrier in the craftroom... Silver disappeared
and refused to come out of hiding even for tunafish. I was terrified
that she'd got out of the apartment and I was about to phone John in
tears, when I noticed fur on the chair cushion - she was hiding out
under the table. Scouty's been following me round the apartment with
an alarmed look on her face...
But the wierdest and scariest thing is that since Silver came out of
hiding a few minutes ago, she and Scout are hissing, growling and
FIGHTING!
I think I have to get rid of the kitten asap and I'm thinking of
taking it back out to where I found it and letting it go in case it
really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
:(

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jmcquown - 10 Feb 2006 18:54 GMT
> Anyway, Scouty and Silver are FURIOUS about having another cat in the
> house, even shut in a carrier in the craftroom... Silver disappeared
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
> :(

I've heard good things about those Feliway diffusers as a way to calm things
down.  No idea, really, since Persia wouldn't tolerate another cat and I'm
not about to try to convince her otherwise.  Good luck!

Jill
Jane - 10 Feb 2006 19:03 GMT
>I've heard good things about those Feliway diffusers as a way to calm things
>down.  No idea, really, since Persia wouldn't tolerate another cat and I'm
>not about to try to convince her otherwise.  Good luck!

Rita also hates all other cats, but that didn't stop me from taking in my
sister's cat when she needed a sitter, or taking in my friend's two
cats when she needed it, OR from taking in Stormy when he called from
outside.

Don't worry about your two.  They'll get over it.  Do what you need to
do to help the new one.  Give the others lots of treats and as much
extra lovings as they'll tolerate. They'll be FINE, really!!
Meanwhile, call every pet rescue outfit in your area and see if they
have a foster home available, or even try to find a home for the new
one yourself.  It may take awhile, but they'll forgive you later.
Rita did.

Jane
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Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Feb 2006 22:26 GMT
> Don't worry about your two.  They'll get over it.  Do what you need
> to do to help the new one.  Give the others lots of treats and as
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> one yourself.  It may take awhile, but they'll forgive you later.
> Rita did.

This is probably true.  But it may not be.  Oscar never got used to Eros
while we had him; she hid in the bedroom and would pee there rather than
leave the room.  She lived under the bed and clearly hated life, hissing
and growling constantly.  She was miserable.  I really botched the
introduction, though; it's possible she would have done better if I'd
followed the rules.

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Kreisleriana - 12 Feb 2006 18:06 GMT
>>I've heard good things about those Feliway diffusers as a way to calm things
>>down.  No idea, really, since Persia wouldn't tolerate another cat and I'm
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Jane
>- owned and operated by Princess Rita

ditto.  I know this initial period can be a great shock and make you
panic-- that's what happened when I brought Dante home, and Stinky
absolutely freaked out.  It really does pass.  They still aren't
cuddly with each other, but they have definitely worked out a
relationship.

Theresa

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Make Levees, Not War
mlbriggs - 10 Feb 2006 19:08 GMT
> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
> :(

Do  you have any Feliway or catnip handy to use on Silver and Scout?  They
will calm down in a while.  Perhaps you could shut them in separate rooms
(if you have the space).  Putting the kitten out will probably cause it's
death.  Do you have a neighbor or friend who could help you out?Purrs that
this will work out for all concerned.  MLB
Karen AKA Kajikit - 10 Feb 2006 19:14 GMT
>> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
>> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>death.  Do you have a neighbor or friend who could help you out?Purrs that
>this will work out for all concerned.  MLB

Unfortunately we live in a two bedroom apartment and Stranger is in
one of the rooms in the carrier, so I can't seperate Scout and Silver
because there aren't any doors to close! Scout and Silver don't take
very well to catnip - it actually makes them aggressive. I guess I
just have to ride this out... I think what's really going on is
Silver's in a royal snit and saying EVERYONE LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!! And
Scouty doesn't understand it... she keep walking up to Silver and
looking at her and then Silver hisspits.

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Karen AKA Kajikit - 10 Feb 2006 19:17 GMT
>Do  you have any Feliway or catnip handy to use on Silver and Scout?  They
>will calm down in a while.  Perhaps you could shut them in separate rooms
>(if you have the space).  Putting the kitten out will probably cause it's
>death.  Do you have a neighbor or friend who could help you out?Purrs that
>this will work out for all concerned.  MLB

ATM Stranger is the happiest - I put him? in the carrier with a soft
cloth to sit on, and put the food and water bowls in the front. He's
just small enough to have room for him and them... he meyowled for
about fifteen minutes but now he's resigned to it and I can hear him
eating :)

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Kreisleriana - 12 Feb 2006 18:08 GMT
>>Do  you have any Feliway or catnip handy to use on Silver and Scout?  They
>>will calm down in a while.  Perhaps you could shut them in separate rooms
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>about fifteen minutes but now he's resigned to it and I can hear him
>eating :)

He's happy to be in and eating.  He doesn't have any prior claim on
your house-- as the saying goes, he's happy to be anywhere! ;)  It was
very much the same with Dante when I brought him home, and with
Stinky, too, when he first came home.  They warm up, get a full tummy,
and go "Wow!  Cool!" and then they're at home.  ;)  It;s harder for
the resident kitty to have someone invade his/her turf.

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Dan M - 10 Feb 2006 19:16 GMT
> But the wierdest and scariest thing is that since Silver came out of
> hiding a few minutes ago, she and Scout are hissing, growling and
> FIGHTING!

I'll second what others have said - give it a little time. It's perfectly
normal for established cats to act weird when another cat is introduced.
The established cats feel like they have to re-establish the "pecking
order", and it shouldn't last too long.

Feliway diffusers and Rescue Remedy have worked wonders for me.

Meanwhile, I'll get the furkids here cranked up to send massive "everybody
calm down" purrs out to your crew.

Dan
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 10 Feb 2006 20:00 GMT
>so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
>stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
>:(

Sending you calming purrs.  Please don't just re-dump the kitten.
S/he deserves a chance.  I know you don't want your babies upset, but
I'm betting they'll calm down pretty shortly.  I'm to the point where,
when I bring a stray into the Kitty Rescue Room, most of the other
cats just yawn.  Only Merlyn still seems to think she needs to throw a
hissy-fit because there's another cat in here.  But that's Merlyn's
personality -- lol.

Give it time, do the fliers, call the shelters, and I'll be praying to
Bast a good solution can be found for this lost kitten.

Ginger-lyn

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Chakolate - 10 Feb 2006 20:48 GMT
> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
>:(

Are you anywhere near Chicago?  I can't stop thinking about that cat - I
really want him.

Chak

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Feb 2006 20:58 GMT
> Are you anywhere near Chicago?  I can't stop thinking about that cat - I
> really want him.

Hey, if she doesn't find the cat's real people, maybe it could be
arranged, even if you're not close? We've had some long-distance cat
transfers before on this newsgroup. (Potjie and Harri Roadcat come
to mind immediately.)

Joyce
jmcquown - 10 Feb 2006 21:16 GMT
>  > Are you anywhere near Chicago?  I can't stop thinking about that
>  cat - I > really want him.
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>
> Joyce

We have indeed!  Kind of like "cats across America" where folks would drive
the cat so far, hand it off for the next leg of the journey, until the cat
reached it's forever home/slave :)

Jill
Karen AKA Kajikit - 10 Feb 2006 21:03 GMT
>> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
>> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>Are you anywhere near Chicago?  I can't stop thinking about that cat - I
>really want him.

Sorry Chak! I'm in South Florida... it's a bit far for kitty to travel
- I'm sure there are some sweet little black kitties up there looking
for homes too :)

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Chakolate - 10 Feb 2006 21:46 GMT
> Sorry Chak! I'm in South Florida... it's a bit far for kitty to travel
> - I'm sure there are some sweet little black kitties up there looking
> for homes too :)

It's prolly just as well.  Sigh.  My landlord has put his foot down about
a third cat.  In fact, the lease said 'no pets'.  He let me move in with
the one I had because I was such a desirable tenant (i.e., a grownup).  I
only got the second one because the landlord himself was looking for a
home for a cat.  

You know, by this time next week, all your guys will have settled down to
the new arrival and you'll have three happy cats on your hands.  

Give him an extra scritch or two for me, will you?

Chak

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would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples
might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal
time in physics classrooms.
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Adrian - 10 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT
> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
> :(

It's early days yet, _please_ don't leave him to fend for himself.
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CatNipped - 10 Feb 2006 22:44 GMT
> so far this is an utter disaster and i"m regretting ever bringing
> stranger upstairs> (SCUSE WEIRD TPYING... Stranger sat on the computer
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> really does belong to someone... this whole thing is breaking my heart
> :(

Karen, *please* don't take the kitten back where you found him.  If you
positively can't keep him any longer, call the ASPCA to come pick him up (I
know you don't have a car to bring him in yourself).

People don't like to do that because they know that the animal will probably
be euthanized, and he might be (although kittens have a greater chance of
being adopted, especially when it's not kitten season, than older cats do).
But please consider, a painless death in gentle hands would be so much
kinder than the way he would die if he were dumped - alone, afraid,
starving, possibly maimed and in pain (by a car or dogs).  Please don't do
that to him.

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