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CatNipped - 08 Feb 2006 17:44 GMT
I just saw a news item about "All My Children" doing a special show about a
Mardi Gras ball (the one where there was an explosion on the set while
filming).  Susan Lucci (Erica Kane) said they wanted to help the victims of
Katrina so during the airing of the show they will have pleas for people to
donate to the American Red Cross.

I just wish I could let people know that *THE AMERICAN RED CROSS HAS DONE
***NOTHING*** FOR KATRINA VICTIMS OTHER THAN AN INITIAL $300 (AND SOME
PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THAT YET)*!!!!!  Yeah, $300 is going to make up
for a family losing their home and everything they owned!

The American Red Cross has even *CHARGED* Katrina victims for needed medical
supplies!!!!  I would *LOVE* to know what they've done with the *MILLIONS*
of dollars people have donated for the victims of Katrina, because the
victims of Katrina sure haven't seen a dime of it.

I guess all those Executives of the American Red Cross need another raise
since their multi-million dollar salaries don't seem to be enough for them
to live off of.

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NMR - 08 Feb 2006 18:14 GMT
Wasn't today the last day they were going to pay for the hotels  I wonder
how many families are going out into the cold
CatNipped - 08 Feb 2006 18:52 GMT
> Wasn't today the last day they were going to pay for the hotels  I wonder
> how many families are going out into the cold

That's FEMA.  A lot of people get FEMA and the American Red Cross mixed up.
FEMA paid for hotels and is providing travel trailers for the hurricane
victims - and they also gave families up to $26,000 (although my daughter's
family of 5 got less than half of that).  But FEMA is funded by our
government through our tax dollars.

The *ONLY* thing the American Red Cross has done for Katrina victims is an
initial $300 (and, as I said, some people haven't even gotten that yet).
They have given *NOTHING* else, and they're even charging Katrina victims
for medical supplies that were *DONATED* to the American Red Cross - so
they're charging for the things they got for free!!!!!

The only other monies they've spent on Katrina is the food kitchens they set
up for the first month to feed people at evacuation shelters - but even the
food they served was the cheapest they could get (and probably donated).

There have been untold millions of dollars donated from kind hearted people
around the world, and not a dime of that has gone where it was ear-marked
for!

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treeline12345@yahoo.com - 08 Feb 2006 19:18 GMT
> > Wasn't today the last day they were going to pay for the hotels  I wonder
> > how many families are going out into the cold
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> around the world, and not a dime of that has gone where it was ear-marked
> for!

The American Red Cross is so sad. It's one of those organizations that
sound great until you see it operate up close and personal. Then it's
awful. Lots of money, lots of rich, bored people who like to pose as
important, but very little real concern for those in need. I wish I had
never seen the Red Cross really operating during an emergency
operation. You really need to be on top of them to get anything done
and that's difficult with an aloof and arrogant organization.

When I first read someone's post suggesting Yowie donate to the
American Red Cross, I knew it would be futile and the money not used
properly. I may have posted that it's not that safe for charity with
the Red Cross. I probably mentioned in that post the scandal with
hemophiliacs and AIDS and large number of deaths because the Red Cross
refused for some years to support auto-blood-donations or the testing
situation with hemophiliacs and a tainted blood supply. I remember the
head of the Red Cross, a beefy guy, saying our blood is 99% safe. And I
worked out the numbers. With 1% not safe, then 10,000 people would die,
mostly hemophiliacs at that time. Without the drugs there are today,
AIDS was a cruel death sentence without hope. Some families whose
members died wanted to sue the Red Cross for genocide - that's how many
died.
NMR - 08 Feb 2006 19:28 GMT
When the 4 hurricanes hit Florida   Red cross was no where to be seen till
the third Hurricane.    After Charley hit  there was no red cross  after
Francis  no red cross  Red cross came in finally after Ivan.  The worst part
was the city where I live also did nothing.  We are in a bad hit area
nothing

I will admit I refused to donate to FEMA or the Red Cross only to the HSUS
or ASPCA organizations.
P C - 09 Feb 2006 18:47 GMT
On Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2006, 7:28pm (EST+5) From:

>When the 4 hurricanes hit Florida   Red cross >was no where to be
seen till the third >Hurricane.   After Charley hit there was no red
>cross after Francis no red cross Red cross >came in finally after Ivan.
The worst part was >the city where I live also did nothing. We are in >a
bad hit area nothing

I will have to disagree with this. The Red Cross was here very shortly
after Hurricane Charley. They handed out meals first only at centralized
locations and as more red cross personal arrived trucks were dispursed
in damaged neighborhoods to hand out a hot meal once a day(our red cross
truck came about 2pm everyday honking their horn to announce they were
in the neighborhood but you had to listen for them and head out to the
road so they could see you). They left the area before each subsequent
huricane to find safety since there was no safe spot left here. They
came back after each hurricane until Jeanne, we no longer saw them after
Jeanne.

We tried to get financial help from the Red Cross but were turned down
because(and this is rediculous) we had no viable housing(house was
ruined) or income(I had been trying to get a home based freelance
graphic design business started when charley struck and could no longer
work from home cause home was ruined). They told me to find a regular
job and then come back, I asked about help with purchasing some career
clothes(to get regular job) because mine were ruined and only had
stained tshirts I had been cleaning out the house in, jeans, and
borrowed socks...tho I did have 2 pairs dress shoes survive. They said
they couldn't and handed me a list of temporary jobs and sent me on my
way. My nephew was able to get some money from them even tho he had no
job(where he worked was ruined) and was living in a shed behind his
parents house after the house he was living in(renting with a bunch of
roommates) was partially damaged. So I found red cross good at emergency
food supply and inconsistent in helping financially.  The food
distribution I understand is taken up by local red crosses across the
country and volunteers, the financial stuff is handle nationally...that
would appear why one works and the other doesn't. I would suggest to
donate to your local red cross not the the national red cross...yes the
money goes to different places depending on where you donate.  

How the red cross works in Mississppi and New Orlens could be different
cause I sure know the national guard worked different here(the national
guard was here right after the storm and not as a threat). They handed
out ice and water, searched thru collapsed houses and trailers looking
for survivors and patrolled neighborhoods on foot and on atvs smiling at
the kids who admiringly chased after them and nodding at residents who
called out to them in support and thanks.

There were lots of other wonderful charities handing out out food,
water, personal items and ice but they didn't get here until about 5
days after the storm. Having a stash of enough nonparishable easy to fix
food to get you by for 4 to 5 days is very important. You can't count on
the red cross or anybody else to be there for you in the few days right
after a storm or emergency. p
CatNipped - 09 Feb 2006 19:12 GMT
On Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2006, 7:28pm (EST+5) From:
haveyouplonkedatrolltoday@anti-troll.com (NMR) wrote:

>We tried to get financial help from the Red Cross but were turned down

<snip>

But all of that is exactly what I'm talking about.  People around the world
have donated in the *HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS* of dollars for hurricane victims,
and all the ARC will do is hand out *ONE* hot meal a day in *SOME* central
disaster areas?!!!  They turn down requests for help and give specious
reasons for the denial [as you detailed].  Why would you  need a job or a
home in order to get a charitable donation that doesn't have to be paid
back - isn't that why you're asking for help in the first place???!!

I would just like some sort of accounting from them, on behalf of the people
who have and are still sending them their hard-earned money that they could
probably be better using themselves, on where that money is going since it
is *NOT* going where it was intended!  This is just mind-boggling that they
are allowed to get away with this larceny!

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Shirley - 09 Feb 2006 22:07 GMT
> On Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2006, 7:28pm (EST+5) From:
> haveyouplonkedatrolltoday@anti-troll.com (NMR) wrote:
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> This is just mind-boggling that they are allowed to get away with
> this larceny!

Do you have an organisation like The Charity Commission?

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/tcc/ccabout.asp

If people here (UK) think a charity is not using  funds for the
purpose it was donated they can make a complaint to the commission and
they will investigate.

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Stormin Mormon - 13 Feb 2006 13:23 GMT
Now, that is embezzlement.

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There have been untold millions of dollars donated from kind hearted people
around the world, and not a dime of that has gone where it was ear-marked
for!

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Stormin Mormon - 13 Feb 2006 13:22 GMT
Seems generous enough to me. I mean, the built h ouses below sea level.

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Wasn't today the last day they were going to pay for the hotels  I wonder
how many families are going out into the cold
NMR - 13 Feb 2006 19:21 GMT
I am not going to comment  you just open yourself up to a lot of flaming
there are lot of families and people that dealt with the problems out there

> Seems generous enough to me. I mean, the built h ouses below sea level.
>
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jmcquown - 08 Feb 2006 19:55 GMT
> I guess all those Executives of the American Red Cross need another
> raise since their multi-million dollar salaries don't seem to be
> enough for them to live off of.

(snipped much)

You're just now figuring this out?  The Red Cross has been falling down on
the job for YEARS!  My father was in Okinawa when I was born in 1960.  As a
member of the armed forces, the Red Cross was supposed to notify him of my
birth.  They didn't.  He found out I'd been born when another guy got a
letter from his wife who knew my mom.

After 9/11, I won't give a damn cent to the Red Cross who used millions to
upgrade their phone systems before they would put forth any effort to help
the victims of 9/11.  Nope, no way do I donate to the Red Cross.

Jill
NMR - 08 Feb 2006 20:15 GMT
>> I guess all those Executives of the American Red Cross need another
>> raise since their multi-million dollar salaries don't seem to be
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>
> Jill

I am going to tell a little story about the red cross also   When my father
passed away  some time ago.  I have 4 half brothers one was in the military
stationed overseas during desert storm.  When my father passed away we
called the military number that you call when stuff like that happens.  Red
cross called to confirm that he had passed away  WHAT a hassle the person on
the phone needed proof  so we faxed a doctor's report over.  I called back
said they need the death certificate to confirm this; I asked the person
have you ever heard of a death certificate being available one day after a
death.  Got a supervisor to have a faxed corner's report.  They said ok
asked when the funeral was  and would contact my brother.  Nothing was done.
I got pissed off and flew overseas during wartime; what an experience, went
to the area that he was stationed at found the nearest MP told him get my
brother now.  I was taken to a holding area. Ended up his sergeant; I was
irate at the time since red cross had not called after 5 days,   came out to
see what was going on why a civilian was here and screaming his head off.  I
showed him the corners report and all the proper paperwork. The sergeant
went to the base commander told him personally what was going on. The  base
commander filled out my half brother's emergency leave papers  We got on a
plane that next morning ( still no call )  We got home the next day  no call
yet.   Red cross called the day of the funeral service according to the base
Chaplain.
dnr - 08 Feb 2006 22:49 GMT
>> You're just now figuring this out?  The Red Cross has been falling down
>> on
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>> the victims of 9/11.  Nope, no way do I donate to the Red Cross.
>> Jill

I dunno how R.C. operates, nor who its execs are, but between Katrina/Wilma
and recently, my hometown papers (available online) have been full of
reports
about money spent by R.C. bigwigs on stuff *for themselves* (in other words,
stealing/embezzling) donated funds for relief of 'cane victims of both
killer
'canes. FEMA is a whole 'nother ballpark. Evidently R.C. has become a big
biz complete with greedy crooks since the long-ago days when it passed out
donuts to USA soldiers in WWII.
idontmind@gmail.com - 08 Feb 2006 22:54 GMT
> I just wish I could let people know that *THE AMERICAN RED CROSS HAS DONE
> ***NOTHING*** FOR KATRINA VICTIMS OTHER THAN AN INITIAL $300 (AND SOME
> PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THAT YET)*!!!!!  Yeah, $300 is going to make up
> for a family losing their home and everything they owned!

That's why we donate to our local food bank* instead of the RC - we
figured they are much better at getting food to the truly needy than
any other org we were familiar with, and since we volunteer with them
we knew the money was spent properly.  And we also know if excess
monies are collected by them, that they will still be used to feed the
hungry.  You really have to know to whom it is you are donating.
Not-for-profit doesn't mean that no one is profiting.

-L.
*They sent a crew and supplied tons of food to the Katrina relief
effort.
jmcquown - 08 Feb 2006 23:43 GMT
>> I just wish I could let people know that *THE AMERICAN RED CROSS HAS
>> DONE ***NOTHING*** FOR KATRINA VICTIMS OTHER THAN AN INITIAL $300
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> *They sent a crew and supplied tons of food to the Katrina relief
> effort.

I totally agree!  I give donations to the local food bank.  The RC has
become such a huge organization that the right hand doesn't know what the
left hand is doing... except for handing out huge salaries for those who are
working for "non-profit".  Huh.

Jill
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Feb 2006 00:46 GMT
> >> I just wish I could let people know that *THE AMERICAN RED CROSS HAS
> >> DONE ***NOTHING*** FOR KATRINA VICTIMS OTHER THAN AN INITIAL $300
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>
> Jill

I agree, and I feel the same way about United Way. I would just rather
donate directly. It's gotten so that the administrative costs of both
organizations are sky-high.

Sherry
jmcquown - 10 Feb 2006 04:58 GMT
>>>> I just wish I could let people know that *THE AMERICAN RED CROSS
>>>> HAS DONE ***NOTHING*** FOR KATRINA VICTIMS OTHER THAN AN INITIAL
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>
> Sherry

I used to give to the United Way at work.  What I liked about it was I could
decide where my $$ were going, say to the local literacy council.  But then
I heard about the huge salaries the execs were making.  After that, you
couldn't pay me enough to donate to them.  It's just nuts.

Jill

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