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[Biking] Purrs Need for Busted Knee

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CatNipped - 17 Jan 2006 22:39 GMT
Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
take a ride when DH had come outside (to tell my goodbye - sheesh!).  I
tried to stop and put my foot down, realized too late that my foot was stuck
to my pedal, and I went down directly on my left knee.  The good news is it
wasn't my bad knee (the one with no cartilage from a horrid accident and
surgery 28 years ago.  The bad news is I think it's about as bad as my bad
knee was.  My entire weight  fell on that one knee, which slammed into the
concrete from the height of my bike.  I'm sitting at my desk with my foot
elevated and the knee wrapped in an ice pack.  I don't think anything is
broken, so I'm not going to the ER for it, but it's going to be *very* sore
and stiff even if it doesn't need surgery.

Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

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mlbriggs - 17 Jan 2006 22:57 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

IMHO an xray would still be in order......(a stitch in time saves nine).
Purrs that you heal well.  MLB
dnr - 18 Jan 2006 00:10 GMT
> IMHO an xray would still be in order......(a stitch in time saves nine).
> Purrs that you heal well.  MLB

I agree totally with MLB with what she says; you are talking a
weight-bearing
extremity here and trying to lurch/limp around on it very well might worsen
the problem. Hoping you have health insurance.
Shiral - 18 Jan 2006 06:24 GMT
I concur with both MLB and DNR. Knees are tricky, and you want to take
good care of your joints.

Ouch! Sympathetic ice packs to you, Catnipped, for what I'm sure must
hurt a lot.

Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Jan 2006 23:37 GMT
> I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't even know it had
> clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go take a ride
> when DH had come outside (to tell my goodbye - sheesh!).  I tried
> to stop and put my foot down, realized too late that my foot was
> stuck to my pedal, and I went down directly on my left knee.  

EEK! OUCH! That sounds sooo painful! Hope you have ice on that knee
as we speak.

And it's probably better that you feel *there*, rather than once you
were out on the road, among traffic. Your shoe still would've been stuck
on the pedal, and the results might have been much worse.

Are those the kind of pedals that you insert your foot inside, to help
take up the work of pedaling (on the upstroke)? I've always been nervous
about those. I'll take a little less efficiency in order not to risk
getting my foot stuck in a crucial moment, thank you!

Purrs for a quick recovery.

Joyce
NMR - 17 Jan 2006 23:39 GMT
Hope you feel better  but you just casued me to wince all the way her in
florida  and now I am limping in sympathy pain :-)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Jan 2006 23:46 GMT
I wrote:

> And it's probably better that you feel *there*, rather than once you
> were out on the road, among traffic. Your shoe still would've been stuck
> on the pedal, and the results might have been much worse.

I hope it was obvious that I meant "And it's probably better that you
*fell* there"! :)

Joyce
CatNipped - 18 Jan 2006 00:45 GMT
> > I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't even know it had
> > clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go take a ride
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>
> Purrs for a quick recovery.

It's the clip type biking shoes.  The shoes have a metal clip on the bottom
that snaps onto the pedal.  In order to unsnap them you have to twist your
foot sideways.  I've had them for quite a while and bragged that I've never
forgotten to unclip before stopping, but in this case I had just start
pedaling and had not consciously clipped my shoes onto the pedals.  However,
they shoes clip on *very* easily, and the clips on the shoes are right on
the ball of the foot when you would normally put pressure to pedal.

Yes, I still have ice on the knee, but the knee is now swollen to twice its
size!  :<

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> Joyce
dnr - 18 Jan 2006 01:04 GMT
> Yes, I still have ice on the knee, but the knee is now swollen to twice
> its
> size!  :<

Can't seem to MMOB tonight. Elevate the KNEE, not your foot! Elevating
the foot will only make the pain worse, by increasing pressure on the
kneejoint.. Hope you're now considering
xrays.
Takayuki - 18 Jan 2006 05:52 GMT
>It's the clip type biking shoes.  The shoes have a metal clip on the bottom
>that snaps onto the pedal.  In order to unsnap them you have to twist your
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>Yes, I still have ice on the knee, but the knee is now swollen to twice its
>size!  :<

Purrs for your troubled knees.  That does sound painful!  Clipping
into a bike sounds dangerous!  I don't doubt that it's more efficient
and better exercise if you do.  Still, it's scary that it can make you
bust your knee just from standing around and talking to someone.
wafflycat - 18 Jan 2006 07:12 GMT
> > I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't even know it had
> > clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go take a ride
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> were out on the road, among traffic. Your shoe still would've been stuck
> on the pedal, and the results might have been much worse.

Have to say that in all probability, your foot *wouldn't* stay stuck to
pedal. Clipless are designed to release the foot in an emergency. I have
seen this happen *personally* too :-)

> Are those the kind of pedals that you insert your foot inside, to help
> take up the work of pedaling (on the upstroke)? I've always been nervous
> about those. I'll take a little less efficiency in order not to risk
> getting my foot stuck in a crucial moment, thank you!

Honestly - they are fine. If you think they are that dangerous, do you think
they'd be used by professional cyclists and by *millions* of cyclists all
over the world?

Cheers, helen s

> Purrs for a quick recovery.
>
> Joyce
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Jan 2006 07:54 GMT
> Honestly - they are fine. If you think they are that dangerous, do you think
> they'd be used by professional cyclists and by *millions* of cyclists all
> over the world?

Oh, I'm sure they're fine when used by professionals and other cyclists.
They're just dangerous when used by a klutz like me. :) I never got used
to them, and I've always been more comfortable with old-fashioned pedals
that don't connect in any way with my foot, except to have the bottom of
my foot touch the top of the pedal! :)

Joyce
badwilson - 19 Jan 2006 02:04 GMT
>> Honestly - they are fine. If you think they are that dangerous, do
>> you think they'd be used by professional cyclists and by *millions*
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>
> Joyce

Same here.  I got rid of my pedals like that and just have the regular
old fashioned ones now.  I never got used to having to take my foot out
and constantly fell over, over and over again.  I was completely scarred
up on my knees and hands.  It wasn't worth it.
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wafflycat - 19 Jan 2006 06:43 GMT
> Same here.  I got rid of my pedals like that and just have the regular old
> fashioned ones now.  I never got used to having to take my foot out and
> constantly fell over, over and over again.  I was completely scarred up on
> my knees and hands.  It wasn't worth it.

For me, clipless pedals have been a legsaver. Using standard pedals I
*always* ended up with pained legs (shins) and knees, due to the standard
action of pushing down on the pedal. I was in agony. Changing to clipless
(Look pedals in my case) ended shin and knee pain overnight, as the
automatic pull on the upstroke reduced the need to push on the downstroke as
hard as before. Hills become easier to cycle up - noticeably so. I had the
one obligatory fall off by forgetting to unclip beofre stopping, but it
quickly became second nature and I clip in and out without problem, even in
traffic. There's no way I'd willingly go back to standard pedals. My knees &
legs have reaped the benefit, as has my general health, as cycling made
easier means I use my bike more and enjoy it more. Clipless are used by
millions of cyclists around the world.

Cheers, helen s
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jan 2006 09:56 GMT
> For me, clipless pedals have been a legsaver... [snip] ... Changing
> to clipless (Look pedals in my case) ended shin and knee pain overnight
> [snip] ... I had the one obligatory fall off by forgetting to unclip
> beofre stopping, but it quickly became second nature and I clip in and
> out without problem, even in traffic. [snip] ... Clipless are used by
> millions of cyclists around the world.

I'm a bit confused. You talk about forgetting to "unclip" and "clipping
in and out", but also you call the pedals "clipless". I guess I don't
know what a "clip" is, but it sounds like your pedals require clipping
even though they are clipless, and that doesn't make sense to me. Please
educate the clueless. (So I can clue in and out. :))

Joyce
wafflycat - 19 Jan 2006 11:46 GMT
> > For me, clipless pedals have been a legsaver... [snip] ... Changing
> > to clipless (Look pedals in my case) ended shin and knee pain overnight
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>
> Joyce

'Clipless' refer to a specific type of pedal where you have a special cleat
on the sole of your shoe, and, like a ski binding, you 'clip' or 'lock' your
foot on to the pedal via the cleat engaging with the pedal. There are
various systems on the market, such as Look, spd, Time...

Examples...

<http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&U
berCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Pedals%20-%20Road&ProdID=5360011684&UberCat=0
>

<http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&U
berCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Pedals%20-%20Road&ProdID=5360014484&UberCat=0
>

<http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&U
berCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Pedals%20-%20Road&ProdID=4000000039&UberCat=0
>

Each system requires its own cleats.

These differ from standard pedals, where you use ordinary shoes, such as

<http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&U
berCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Pedals%20-%20Road&ProdID=5360006647&UberCat=0
>

You fit toeclips with straps to them, such as

<http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&U
berCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=&ProdID=5360012684&UberCat=0
>

These are the 'old fashioned' or 'traditional' type of pedal with toeclips.

This is why the 'clipless' pedals are referred to as 'clipless' as they do
not have toeclips.

I use the Look system of clipless pedals as I find them the easiest to use.
Vernon uses old-fashioned toeclips and Nathan uses various kinds of clipless
and changes between systems with no hassle at all. You tend to find that
cyclists to cycle regularly and over distance use the various clipless
sytems as they are more efficient and easier on the knees & muscles.
Basically you get more cycling for less effort than with 'normal' pedals,
especially going up any sort of incline.

Cheers, helen s
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jan 2006 16:45 GMT
> 'Clipless' refer to a specific type of pedal where you have a special cleat
> on the sole of your shoe, and, like a ski binding, you 'clip' or 'lock' your
> foot on to the pedal via the cleat engaging with the pedal.

Ah... I don't think I've seen these. But then, I haven't bought a new
bike in many, many years. So maybe the clipless type with the special
shoe would work fine for me. I have tried bikes that have pedals with
toeclips. Those really scared me, as I never got very good at getting my
foot out of the toeclip in a timely manner. It was fine if I saw a point
coming up ahead where I was going to have to stop (eg, an upcoming
intersection), but if I had to stop very suddenly, and get my feet free
immediately, it was a disaster. I panicked, and of course, this didn't
facilitate the calm disentangling of my feet. :)

Guess I never had the patience to learn it, or maybe *courage* was the
lacking trait - I wouldn't have minded it taking a while, if I didn't
get banged up in the process!

Thanks for the lesson,
Joyce
wafflycat - 19 Jan 2006 19:04 GMT
> > 'Clipless' refer to a specific type of pedal where you have a special
> > cleat
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> immediately, it was a disaster. I panicked, and of course, this didn't
> facilitate the calm disentangling of my feet. :)

I find the modern clipless pedals *much easier* to use than standard pedals
with toeclips. I could never get to grips with having the toeclips tight
enough to give the kind of support modern clipless do and be able to get out
of the toeclip in time before stopping. As a result, I always had toeclips
too loose top be of any benefit. Vernon has no hassle at all with toeclips.
Modern clipless are *wonderful* things. One you get the hang of clipping in
and out, which I found to become second nature very, very quickly.. well,
I'd not willingly go back to 'standard' pedals. I was a reluctant convert to
clipless - basically I was given a pair of special road shoes by a total
stranger - so I had to try them out. I'm seriously glad I did - they've made
cycling so much easier and more enjoyable.

Cheers, helen s

> Guess I never had the patience to learn it, or maybe *courage* was the
> lacking trait - I wouldn't have minded it taking a while, if I didn't
> get banged up in the process!
>
> Thanks for the lesson,
> Joyce
CatNipped - 19 Jan 2006 20:05 GMT
> I use the Look system of clipless pedals as I find them the easiest to
> use. Vernon uses old-fashioned toeclips and Nathan uses various kinds of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s

Yeah, I bought the clipless cleats because of my bad knee - they put *much*
less strain on it.  Ironically, because of the clipless cleats, I now have
*two* bad knees!  ;>

Seriously though, I didn't have any trouble getting used to them at all, and
I could stop and unclip with no problem (all it takes to unclip is just a
small twist of the foot sideways).  The problem is that they are *SO* easy
to clip onto that I hadn't realized they had locked on yet.  I was *just*
getting on my bike when DH walked outside and I thought something was wrong
and he wanted to tell me something, so I tried to just step down off my
bike, found my foot was stuck, and didn't have time to unclip before my knee
hit the ground.  "*WHAT*?!!", I screamed at DH, "*WHAT THE *$%&*%& DO YOU
WANT*???!".  "I just came out to tell you goodbye", he replied quietly.
!!!!!

The good news is that the purrs worked once again and my knee is much better
today - I was even able to do a short, slow ride (just 5 miles).  Here are
comparison pictures, if anyone is interested - on the top one (from
yesterday) I had to draw a circle so  you could tell where my kneecap was,
it was so swollen.  On the second one (from just now) you can see how much
the swelling has gone down.

http://www.possibleplaces.com/Busted_Knee/

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wafflycat - 20 Jan 2006 10:11 GMT
> The good news is that the purrs worked once again and my knee is much
> better today - I was even able to do a short, slow ride (just 5 miles).
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>
> http://www.possibleplaces.com/Busted_Knee/

Now you've got a bit of road-rash, you are entitled to call yourself a real
cyclist ;-)

Cheers, helen s
CatNipped - 20 Jan 2006 13:52 GMT
>> The good news is that the purrs worked once again and my knee is much
>> better today - I was even able to do a short, slow ride (just 5 miles).
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Now you've got a bit of road-rash, you are entitled to call yourself a
> real cyclist ;-)

Yep, exactly as I figured!  ;>  I went for a short, slow ride yesterday
mainly so I won't be too afraid to get back on my bike again.

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> Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jan 2006 19:36 GMT
> Yep, exactly as I figured!  ;>  I went for a short, slow ride
> yesterday mainly so I won't be too afraid to get back on my bike
> again.

This is a very good idea.  I couldn't ride my bike for over a month
after I sprained my wrist last year, and I had a heck of a time
getting back on it.  (No problems riding on the road, but I kept
finding excuses not to go mountain biking -- enough that I basically
didn't ride for the rest of the summer, even though I usually go
several times a week!)

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CatNipped - 20 Jan 2006 20:21 GMT
>> Yep, exactly as I figured!  ;>  I went for a short, slow ride
>> yesterday mainly so I won't be too afraid to get back on my bike
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> didn't ride for the rest of the summer, even though I usually go
> several times a week!)

It's weird!  When I was younger I never worried about falling and I could
wipe out and not think twice about getting right back up to do whatever it
was I was doing.  Now I worry about the consequences of an injury years down
the road.

Sheesh!  When did I go from worrying about being hip to worrying about
breaking a hip!!!  ;>

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Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jan 2006 20:35 GMT
> It's weird!  When I was younger I never worried about falling and I
> could wipe out and not think twice about getting right back up to do
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Sheesh!  When did I go from worrying about being hip to worrying
> about breaking a hip!!!  ;>

Probably after you had a few injuries that didn't *allow* you to get
right back up again.

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Yoj - 17 Jan 2006 23:49 GMT
Purrs are on the way.  I hope it isn't broken, but if it's still bad by
tomorrow, I hope you'll have a doctor look at it, just in case there's
something besides ice and elevation that will help.

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> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Charleen Welton - 18 Jan 2006 00:18 GMT
Hurting knee purrs from one who knows!!  Check it out Lori, better safe than
complicated.  We're all purring for you to get better soon.
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> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Marina - 18 Jan 2006 04:46 GMT
> Hurting knee purrs from one who knows!!  Check it out Lori, better safe than
> complicated.  We're all purring for you to get better soon.

Purrs on the way, and I echo these sentiments. Please see a doctor.

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ann791 - 18 Jan 2006 01:27 GMT
Purrs on the way.
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> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Kreisleriana - 18 Jan 2006 01:51 GMT
>Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
>even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

OWOWOWOWOWOW!!  Oh Lori!  You poor thing!  Big purrs for you.

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Annie Wxill - 18 Jan 2006 02:30 GMT
...I'm sitting at my desk with my foot
> elevated and the knee wrapped in an ice pack.  ...
> Hugs,
> CatNipped

Ouch!  I hope that you are right that nothing is broken.

Cats seem to seek out warm immobile bodies.
 This is a perfect opportunity for them to put on their nurse caps and look
after you.

Annie, who never did learn how to ride a bike
Wayne Mitchell - 18 Jan 2006 02:45 GMT
>Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
>even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>broken, so I'm not going to the ER for it, but it's going to be *very* sore
>and stiff even if it doesn't need surgery.

Oh, no!  And here I've been urging you to get back to riding
more.

I agree with the folks that have been recommending x-rays.  It's
just a sensible precaution.  In any case, purrs for a quick and
complete recovery.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Jan 2006 03:12 GMT
> Oh, no!  And here I've been urging you to get back to riding more.
>
> I agree with the folks that have been recommending x-rays.  It's
> just a sensible precaution.  In any case, purrs for a quick and
> complete recovery.

Rather than asking for x-rays, I would go to an orthopedic surgeon
specializing in sports medicine.  They will know what tests to
suggest.  Or they might do what DH's orth surgeon said when he got
bursitis in his knee from slamming into the boards playing hockey:
"Suck it up.  It's just going to hurt for a while, but it isn't
damaged."

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Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Jan 2006 03:10 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal
> (I didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Many purrs incoming.

Knee injuries suck.  Please take your time with it.

I don't get stuck much anymore, but I used to have it happen all the
time.  I never busted my knee, but I did sport some impressive
bruises.  Now I can actually balance enough that if I come to a stop
without remembering to clip out; I can hold it for a split second
while I unclip.  You'll get there, too =)

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wafflycat - 18 Jan 2006 07:13 GMT
> I don't get stuck much anymore, but I used to have it happen all the
> time.  I never busted my knee, but I did sport some impressive
> bruises.  Now I can actually balance enough that if I come to a stop
> without remembering to clip out; I can hold it for a split second
> while I unclip.  You'll get there, too =)

Yes, it comes with time - usually a short space of time - clipping in and
out becomes second nature, as does the little bit of extra balance if
required on occasion!

Cheers, helen s
Irulan - 18 Jan 2006 03:39 GMT
aw, purrs and prayers it's nothing serious. Go have it looked at anyway.
Lily & her mama

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> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Victor Martinez - 18 Jan 2006 03:56 GMT
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Lots of purrs for a swift recovery!

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Sam - 18 Jan 2006 03:59 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

OUCH!  Healing and pain-abatement purrs on the way.  Please take care.

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wafflycat - 18 Jan 2006 07:09 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Well, you've done what every cyclist does once when using clipless pedals.
It's unlikely to happen again. Smarts, doesn't it ;-)

Get to see a doc, to have it checked over and in the meantime, remember RICE
(Rest Immobilise Compress Elevate).

You are probably alright, you know - and you *must* get back on the bike.
Take it from one who has been there, done that, yelled *OUCH!* loudly. Once
fallen, you quickly learn to remember to unclip!

Cheers, helen s
Exocat - 18 Jan 2006 10:04 GMT
"CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal

Belated purrs to Get Well Soon!

from Gordon (who stuck to ordinary pedals 'cos he's a klutz too)
& the FF who are fast enough across country not to need bikes
Adrian - 18 Jan 2006 10:28 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Lots of purrs on the way.
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Lesley - 18 Jan 2006 11:28 GMT
Purrs on their way

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Steve Touchstone - 18 Jan 2006 11:34 GMT
>Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
>even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
>Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

OUCH!! Purrs that you'll heal without proplems - but don't as others
have already urged, don't hesitate to get it checked out, since you
wouldn't want to cause addition damage trying to get around on it when
it needs treatment.
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Gabey8 - 18 Jan 2006 12:37 GMT
Aaaargh! Many "knee, be well at once!" purrs are on the way from this
former knee-injury patient. OUCH many times over!

I'm thinking that an x-ray might be in order, though, just to make sure
that there aren't any hairline fractures, or anything amiss that needs
more treatment than regular first-aid.

I should talk, though. I'm the one who slipped on ice, dislocated a
kneecap (excruciating), and had the kneecap go back into place by itself
when I tried to roll from my stomach to a sitting position (only slightly
less excruciating). Then, once the pain subsided enough that I could think
in sentences again, I weighed the options of heading for the emergency
room (one block away) vs. walking home (three blocks away in the other
direction). I decided that if I could bear weight on the injured knee when
I stood up, I'd go home. If not, I'd limp/crawl/whatever to the ER.

I stood. I could bear weight. I went home. And did the ice and elevation
treatment, which I'm sure helped. Unfortunately, at about 2 AM I woke and
realized that the knee, over time, had swollen EXTREMELY badly and could
no longer bear weight. Little did I know that knees can take hours before
they give an indication of just how bad the damage is. So I wound up in
the ER the next day.

So what I'm hoping is that YOUR knee isn't wounded all that badly, and
it's only sore. But if you notice that it's getting worse as the hours
pass, instead of better, PLEASE have it checked. And FWIW, I'd recommend
getting it checked anyway, just to be on the safe side. You only have two
knees, and one of them was already in rebellion prior to this. Be nice to
your knees, you're gonna need 'em for quite a while.

Donna
kilikini - 18 Jan 2006 13:00 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
> --

Shoots, Lori, I thought 2006 would be a fresh, better year for you and here
you go!  I'm so sorry!  Purrs coming from me and the furkids, Chloe, Tyrone
and Pua.

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CatNipped - 18 Jan 2006 13:51 GMT
Fortunately, the knee got better overnight instead of worse.  It's not as
swollen, and is swollen only around the site of the impact.  It still hurts
like h*ll to touch it, but it bears weight OK.

I was lucky that it was cold here yesterday and I was wearing a pair of
heavy jeans over my biking shorts.  It totally ripped out the knee of the
jeans (I guess now I'll be in style) - so I can only imagine what it would
have done to my knee if I hadn't been wearing them!

Thank you all for the purrs and well wishes - they've worked their magic
once again!

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> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Takayuki - 19 Jan 2006 04:37 GMT
>Fortunately, the knee got better overnight instead of worse.  It's not as
>swollen, and is swollen only around the site of the impact.  It still hurts
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>Thank you all for the purrs and well wishes - they've worked their magic
>once again!

That's good to hear!  Purrs that it keeps getting better like that
until it's not painful anymore.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Jan 2006 16:56 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Giant sized purrs on the way!  My knees give me trouble off
and on for no discernible reason (I had a torn miniscus in
one, some years ago, which seemed to heal itself, and SFAIK
I don't have arthritis, but still.....).  We take our
mobility so much for granted, suddenly having it hurt if you
take more than a few steps can be very disheartening!  Hope
you don't need surgery, and the break heals quickly.
CatNipped - 18 Jan 2006 17:48 GMT
> Giant sized purrs on the way!  My knees give me trouble off and on for no
> discernible reason (I had a torn miniscus in one, some years ago, which
> seemed to heal itself, and SFAIK I don't have arthritis, but still.....).
> We take our mobility so much for granted, suddenly having it hurt if you
> take more than a few steps can be very disheartening!  Hope you don't need
> surgery, and the break heals quickly.

Thanks!

What's really disheartening was that I was just getting back into my biking
routine - and I really need it!  I gained almost 10 pounds in the months my
daughter was living here, mostly because I didn't make the time to exercise.
I was looking forward to biking off these pounds as well as getting back
into cardiovascular shape (I feel *SO* much better when I'm exercising
regularly).

I think I'm going to take some short rides any way, even with the hurt knee,
as long as it doesn't hurt too much, so it doesn't get stiff.  I had surgery
on my right knee years ago and it's never been the same since - it aches
horribly whenever the weather changes and is always "going out" on me if I
even take a wrong step.  I don't want the left one to go the same route.

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mlbriggs - 18 Jan 2006 18:24 GMT
>> Giant sized purrs on the way!  My knees give me trouble off and on for no
>> discernible reason (I had a torn miniscus in one, some years ago, which
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> horribly whenever the weather changes and is always "going out" on me if I
> even take a wrong step.  I don't want the left one to go the same route.

FYI  I had a total knee replacement over 10 years ago.  The knee had
troubled me since I was a teenager.  I can truthfully say it is the best
joint in my body.  The operation aftermath is painful but does improve
after the first 10 days.  Best wishes for your knee.   MLB
CatNipped - 18 Jan 2006 18:34 GMT
> FYI  I had a total knee replacement over 10 years ago.  The knee had
> troubled me since I was a teenager.  I can truthfully say it is the best
> joint in my body.  The operation aftermath is painful but does improve
> after the first 10 days.  Best wishes for your knee.   MLB

Thanks, that's good to know!  I get really worried that I'm going to be
totally disabled when I get older because of injuries.

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polonca12000 - 18 Jan 2006 22:25 GMT
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> I think I'm going to take some short rides any way, even with the hurt knee,
> as long as it doesn't hurt too much, so it doesn't get stiff.  I had surgery
> on my right knee years ago and it's never been the same since - it aches
> horribly whenever the weather changes and is always "going out" on me if I
> even take a wrong step.  I don't want the left one to go the same route.

Please do not take rides with your knee injured and rather see a doctor
and let him/her decide what is good for your knee in the condition it is in.
Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
wafflycat - 19 Jan 2006 08:58 GMT
> Thanks!
>
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> getting back into cardiovascular shape (I feel *SO* much better when I'm
> exercising regularly).

I know that feeling! Being off the bike for most of Nov/Dec due to my mouth
problems has played havoc with my weight. Now, my post-dental surgery mouth
is fine I'm back on the bike and *loving it* Back to my routine of using the
bike as much as possible. I was out on my recumbent yesterday and that is
just so much fun!

> I think I'm going to take some short rides any way, even with the hurt
> knee, as long as it doesn't hurt too much, so it doesn't get stiff.  I had
> surgery on my right knee years ago and it's never been the same since - it
> aches horribly whenever the weather changes and is always "going out" on
> me if I even take a wrong step.  I don't want the left one to go the same
> route.

Careful...  Whilst the knee is injured you don't want to risk making the
injury worse. A few days off the bike at this stage can be a benefit. Keep
the knee gently mobile, plus plenty of rest too. Anti-inflammatories can
help. Over here we can get ibuprofen and dicolfenac in gel form over the
counter and they can be a very good way of getting the anti-inflammatory
help where it is needed without risking an upset stomach. In getting back to
fitness don't forget that rest is a vital component of training.

Cheers, helen s
Christine Burel - 18 Jan 2006 20:58 GMT
Reading this makes me cringe -- your poor knee -- many purrs from us!
Christine
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
> even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.
Helen Miles - 18 Jan 2006 22:29 GMT
I don't think anything is
> broken, so I'm not going to the ER for it, but it's going to be *very* sore
> and stiff even if it doesn't need surgery.
>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.///

Ouchie purrs on the way.

Helen M
Christina Websell - 18 Jan 2006 23:01 GMT
> Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I
> didn't even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike
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>
> Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Lots of purrs for your knee,  BTDT, knee pain is really bad.

Tweed
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 19 Jan 2006 18:01 GMT
>Well, it finally happened - I got my biking shoe stuck on my pedal (I didn't
>even know it had clicked onto it).  I had just gotten onto my bike to go
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>
>Purrs would be greatly appreciated.

Ouch!   {{{{Catnipped}}}}

Purrs for a very full recovery for your poor knee.

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