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-L. - 10 Jan 2006 10:07 GMT
Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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Poor little thing.
-L.
badwilson - 10 Jan 2006 11:30 GMT
> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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>
> Poor little thing.
> -L.

Ugh, I shouldn't have clicked.  I was warned and still clicked on it.
Things like this seriously disturb me  :-(
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Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

Takayuki - 10 Jan 2006 13:50 GMT
>> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Ugh, I shouldn't have clicked.  I was warned and still clicked on it.
>Things like this seriously disturb me  :-(

It is a bit disturbing.  It was in the top three most emailed pictures
for a while on Yahoo, so it showed up unbidden on my MyYahoo page,
eek!  You hate to see a kitten born without much of a chance.
Magic Mood Jeep© - 10 Jan 2006 14:18 GMT
>> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

I wonder about the authenticity of this - a kitten born with it's eye *OPEN*
like that?  Weird.
-L. - 10 Jan 2006 20:06 GMT
> I wonder about the authenticity of this - a kitten born with it's eye *OPEN*
> like that?  Weird.

I think the lids were underdeveloped.  It's just sad.  I have never
seen any animal born as a cyclops.
-L.
jmcquown - 10 Jan 2006 22:39 GMT
>> I wonder about the authenticity of this - a kitten born with it's
>> eye *OPEN* like that?  Weird.
>
> I think the lids were underdeveloped.  It's just sad.  I have never
> seen any animal born as a cyclops.
> -L.

Apparently the ancient Greeks saw something similar, otherwise where would
the legend have come from?

Jill
-L. - 11 Jan 2006 00:25 GMT
> Apparently the ancient Greeks saw something similar, otherwise where would
> the legend have come from?
>
> Jill

I was thinking about that as well.  I can't imagine a human cyclops
surviving.  The poor little kitty had no nose, either. :(
-L.
jmcquown - 11 Jan 2006 01:38 GMT
>> Apparently the ancient Greeks saw something similar, otherwise where
>> would the legend have come from?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> surviving.  The poor little kitty had no nose, either. :(
> -L.

I was napping on the couch with Persia (thunderstorms and all!) and she was
snoring through her little black nose.  I thought about the cyclops kitten
not having a nose and thankful that Persia had a nose to snore through.

Jill
rrb - 11 Jan 2006 04:23 GMT
>>> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I wonder about the authenticity of this - a kitten born with it's eye *OPEN*
> like that?  Weird.

If it is a legit photo I am glad the kitten didn't live long I hope it
didn't suffer. But I personally think the photo is a fake. If the kitten
had a normal sized - or more normal sized eye - I would believe it more.
You'd be surprised what can be done with photo editing software now.
Hans Schrøder - 11 Jan 2006 13:29 GMT
> If it is a legit photo I am glad the kitten didn't live long I hope it
> didn't suffer. But I personally think the photo is a fake. If the kitten
> had a normal sized - or more normal sized eye - I would believe it more.
> You'd be surprised what can be done with photo editing software now.

According to Associated Press, it's definitely not a fake. They have been
examining the memory card from the camera, and found the pictures are real.

Read more about the pictures, and what this condition is called here:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/ONE_EYED_CAT?SITE=GORBC&SECTION=HOME&TEMP
LATE=DEFAULT


or here (same link, shorter address):

http://tinyurl.com/b8xs4

Hans
cybercat - 10 Jan 2006 15:52 GMT
> > Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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> > Poor little thing.
> > -L.
>
> Ugh, I shouldn't have clicked.  I was warned and still clicked on it.
> Things like this seriously disturb me  :-(

Then Lyn's work here is underway. I often wonder why people post this
kind of thing, but not for long. It is really obvious, after you think about
it a
minute. Obvious, and just really sad.
Helen Miles - 10 Jan 2006 14:02 GMT
> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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>
> Poor little thing.
> -L.

Best place for it is at Rainbow Bridge where it can be a proper kitten.

Helen M
-L. - 10 Jan 2006 20:07 GMT
> Best place for it is at Rainbow Bridge where it can be a proper kitten.
>
> Helen M

Oh, ITA.  I hope it didn't suffer.
-L.
Gabey8 - 11 Jan 2006 00:15 GMT
[[> Poor little thing.
> -L.

Best place for it is at Rainbow Bridge where it can be a proper kitten.]]

Agreed. If the ONLY difference between this kitten and "normal" ones (for
lack of a better word) was the fact that it had one eye, I think it
would've survived just fine. Gosh knows we have plenty of people posting
here whose cats have only one eye.

But if the poor kitty died the day after it was born, goodness knows what
other physical problems it had. Poor thing. I hope it didn't suffer.

Donna
Takayuki - 11 Jan 2006 03:04 GMT
>Agreed. If the ONLY difference between this kitten and "normal" ones (for
>lack of a better word) was the fact that it had one eye, I think it
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>But if the poor kitty died the day after it was born, goodness knows what
>other physical problems it had. Poor thing. I hope it didn't suffer.

I'd be surprised if the poor thing wasn't missing several critical
internal organs.  It looked like an extremely severe deformity.
Probably most of its cerebrum didn't make it to this world, but
remained at RB, so didn't suffer.
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Jan 2006 16:03 GMT
> Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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>
> Poor little thing.
> -L.

Yes, poor thing. It's like those two separate pictures that we all saw
a while back,
of the kitten born with two faces. Genetics can be cruel. Makes you
*really hope*
the mother gets spayed.

Sherry
cybercat - 10 Jan 2006 16:29 GMT
> > Photo - Not for the squeamish.  Sorry for the long link:

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1778/im:/060109/480/nyet27501091906;_ylt=AtTBM_E
D8kXtPa.AoomQ_MViWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20
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> > Poor little thing.
> > -L.
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>
> Sherry

Isn't there a train wreck somewhere that you and
Lyn could enjoy? You could pack a low-fat, heart
healthy picnic.
-L. - 10 Jan 2006 20:14 GMT
> Yes, poor thing. It's like those two separate pictures that we all saw
> a while back,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Sherry

She's a purebred Ragdoll so probably fat chance of that.  This is a
developmental issue, though, so I doubt it is genetics-related.  And
think about how rare these things really are - in terms of the hundreds
of thousands of kittens born each year.

I knew a guy who worked in developmental biology and contracted for the
govenrment.  He did all sorts of developmental studies on reptiles
because something in their development (the way genes trigger
differentiation, or something like that) was similar to humans.  His
work always fascinated me in that he found the smallest things could
have the hugest impact.  Like temperature - in certain species even a
small change in mean temperature of incubation will affect the sex of
the offspring.  It makes you wonder what sort of genetic triggers lead
to these sorts of anomalies.  
-L.
CatNipped - 10 Jan 2006 20:48 GMT
>> Yes, poor thing. It's like those two separate pictures that we all saw
>> a while back,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> to these sorts of anomalies.
> -L.

I've always been fascinated by genetic vs. congenital disorders (mutation of
genes in utero).  I have a grandniece who lost an eye to retinoblastoma.
There is no way to predict this cancer based on genetic screening.  There
are two other grandnieces/nephews in my family who have congenital
disorders - and it makes me want to scream at them, "Move out of 'Cancer
Alley'!" (the mouth of the Mississippi contains the concentrated waste of
the entire Mississippi valley).  It wasn't until this last generation of my
family that these things started appearing.  Although there is no research
that definitively explains what causes congenital mutations, pollution
*can't* be a *good* thing for pregnant women.

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-L. - 11 Jan 2006 00:24 GMT
> I've always been fascinated by genetic vs. congenital disorders (mutation of
> genes in utero).  I have a grandniece who lost an eye to retinoblastoma.
> There is no way to predict this cancer based on genetic screening.

I think there is a movement to try to get pediatricians to screen for
retinoblastoma.  If I find a link, I will post it for you.  "They"
think my retinal condition is congenital and it took 42 years for it to
get bad enough to manifest symptoms.  I always wonder if my Mom being
an "older" Mom had anything to do with it.  She was 41 when I was born.
The average person has 7 spontaneous mutations - luckily most of them
are null and have no effect.

There
> are two other grandnieces/nephews in my family who have congenital
> disorders - and it makes me want to scream at them, "Move out of 'Cancer
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that definitively explains what causes congenital mutations, pollution
> *can't* be a *good* thing for pregnant women.

Oh God.  That's the most devastating kind of thing to realize - knowing
it is probably preventable.
-L.
CatNipped - 11 Jan 2006 00:46 GMT
>> I've always been fascinated by genetic vs. congenital disorders (mutation
>> of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I think there is a movement to try to get pediatricians to screen for
> retinoblastoma.  If I find a link, I will post it for you.

Oh God, I wish they would - my grandniece might have been able to keep her
eye if they had found the cancer early enough.  Her mother, my niece,
noticed "something funny" when she looked into the baby's eyes - they
reflected light oddly (almost like a cats' eyes).  If her pediatrician had
only done a simple eye check they might have found it *months* earlier.
Here's some pictures of her after dozens of surgeries, but before they
removed her right eye:
http://www.possibleplaces.com/Lorishouse/malorie2.html.

She never could get used to a glass eye (she kept popping it out in class -
LOL) so they used a Hollywood make-up artist to fashion an eye patch that
looks very life-like.  She's very blase about the disease, but she if very
sensitive to the teasing of her peers.

> "They"
> think my retinal condition is congenital and it took 42 years for it to
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> it is probably preventable.
> -L.

Well, if you only look hard enough, anyone can find things to beat
themselves up with - I'm particularly good at self-flagellation!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
idontmind@gmail.com - 11 Jan 2006 02:24 GMT
> > I think there is a movement to try to get pediatricians to screen for
> > retinoblastoma.  If I find a link, I will post it for you.
>
> Oh God, I wish they would - my grandniece might have been able to keep her
> eye if they had found the cancer early enough.

I was wrong - it's actually a Bill in Florida that they were trying to
passs to make doctors dialate the eyes to screen for retinal problems
including retinoblastoma.  here's the link: http://www.kidsplea.org/  I
don't know if the bill passed or not.  What caught my attention about
this is retinoblastoma is more common in children conceived by IVF.
Well, that and I'm paranoid about this kind of thing with DS...

> Her mother, my niece,
> noticed "something funny" when she looked into the baby's eyes - they
> reflected light oddly (almost like a cats' eyes).  If her pediatrician had
> only done a simple eye check they might have found it *months* earlier.

They say that often a child with retinoblastoma will photograph with a
white dot in one eye instead of normal "refective" retinas.  If you
follow the link to Joey's site, you will see photographs of what I am
talking about.

> Here's some pictures of her after dozens of surgeries, but before they
> removed her right eye:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> looks very life-like.  She's very blase about the disease, but she if very
> sensitive to the teasing of her peers.

She looks so sweet.  Poor little thing.  As if dealing with the loss of
her eyesight isn't bad enough.  How long ago did they remove her eye -
is time helping her cope any better?
-L.
CatNipped - 11 Jan 2006 03:10 GMT
>> > I think there is a movement to try to get pediatricians to screen for
>> > retinoblastoma.  If I find a link, I will post it for you.
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> is time helping her cope any better?
> -L.

It's been about 3 years ago now.  She copes really well with the results of
the disease, but I think she would probably have social problems even if it
weren't for her eye.  She has a genius-level IQ (186 on the Stanford-Binet
test)*.  She has had an imaginary friend since she was 1, and they travel
all around the world and come back to describe places like Bali-Bali and
Katmandu to the rest of us plebes!  ;>  She speaks 3 languages at
conversational levels and does college-level math.  I don't agree with her
parents' decision to keep her in regular school - "socialization" just
doesn't work that way, it only emphasizes the ostracization more - but they
just won't listen to me on that score (they're listening to "experts" who
have nowhere near the child's smarts and haven't experienced the ridicule of
their peers).

*My brother, her grandfather, is also a genius.  He served for 38 years on
the NOPD and is now retired, but while serving, he attended Loyola
University and earned his law degree, passed the bar, and also taught law
there before retirement. As a sideline during all this time (in his spare
time when he wasn't working extra police details to earn money for his
family) he also did photography and developing and won numerous awards for
his photographs.  He is *also* a world renowned and accomplished artist, his
wood carvings are very much in demand (he is so detailed in his carvings
that the wood feels like real-life feathers to the touch). You can view some
of his works of art here:
http://members.aol.com/rreeves333/carvingsbyric.htm.

Makes me positively feel like the black sheep of the family!  ;>

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-L. - 11 Jan 2006 06:03 GMT
<snip>
He is *also* a world renowned and accomplished artist, his
> wood carvings are very much in demand (he is so detailed in his carvings
> that the wood feels like real-life feathers to the touch). You can view some
> of his works of art here:
> http://members.aol.com/rreeves333/carvingsbyric.htm.
>
> Makes me positively feel like the black sheep of the family!  ;>

I think I have seen his work before - I can't remember where but it
might have been on TV or one of my birding friends had one or
something.  They really are beautiful.
-L.
kilikini - 11 Jan 2006 04:30 GMT
> Oh God, I wish they would - my grandniece might have been able to keep her
> eye if they had found the cancer early enough.  Her mother, my niece,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> looks very life-like.  She's very blase about the disease, but she if very
> sensitive to the teasing of her peers.

Wow, she's such a cutie, too.  Glad she seems to have a personality to
counter her disability.

kili
 
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