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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / January 2006MAIL CALL!
I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So rather than go out and wash my car, and since I needed to fill up on gas for my trip anyway, I drove it down to the gas station. Got a deluxe drive-thru car-wash along with a fill-up. No biggie. There's a homeless guy who panhandles by this gas station. I've seen him many times before. I don't carry cash around with me and at any rate wouldn't hand someone cash to begin with. He's never approached me before but he did today. He said to me, "Ma'am, I have 15 cents in my pocket. Any little change you could spare would be appreciated." Here's the litmus test for someone who truly wants help rather than go blow their money on Mad Dog 20-20. Offer to buy them a sandwich. If they only want cash, guess what? They probably have more money than I do. I said I didn't have any cash but I could use my credit card to buy him a burger. There was a Wendy's next door and he was exceedingly grateful. He said, "I've seen that picture of the bacon mushroom melt thing, could I have one of those?" Sure you can. Do you want fries? "Oh, no, ma'am. Just the sandwich. And some ice water. Water doesn't cost anything extra." How pitiful is that?! Damn, I went in there and ordered his sandwich and his ice water - cost me all of $4.29 including tax. It was everything I could do - and I probably should have - to not order two burgers, an extra large order of fries, a salad and maybe a bowl of chili. But he seemed to be a rather proud sort and I didn't figure he'd take kindly to my going the extra mile. Sounds stupid, I know, but I didn't want to offend him. He happily sat down on the grass median next to the Wendy's parking lot as I drove off, preparing to eat his dinner. Jill > I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So > rather [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Jill Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back in again. Jill > Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back in > again. > > Jill language jill language if you're going to use explicatives you should include warning the header > Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back in > again. Language! tsk tsk FTR, I thought that really was you. I recall a post you made that was damned near identical. > > Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back > in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I recall a post you made that was damned near identical. she did, it is identical. i think it was called my OT Good Deed for the Day...it plucked my nerves back then...and she didn't even buy the f.cking fries! > > Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back > in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I recall a post you made that was damned near identical. she did, it is identical. i think it was called my OT Good Deed for the Day...it plucked my nerves back then...and she didn't even buy the f.cking fries! >>I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So >>rather [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Here we go again with the f.cking trolls. Someone please let school back in > again. Jill, did you actually read the post, or simply react to the rather lame screen-name? It may be off-topic, and it may be a troll, but certainly not anything objectionable. im not talking to you but Jill saw I'm hot, sweaty... and thought it was a troll! it was her own post that's too darn funny she cussed a dirty word too! ha! > >>I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So > >>rather [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > rather lame screen-name? It may be off-topic, and it may be > a troll, but certainly not anything objectionable. >>> I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So >>> rather [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > rather lame screen-name? It may be off-topic, and it may be > a troll, but certainly not anything objectionable. Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on Google, no doubt. I have no idea why this person decided to re-post my post about my buying lunch for a homeless person. Just another example of because I asked NMR to not top post, the trolls are crawling back out of the woodwork. I seem to attract them like flies. Jill > Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on Google, no > doubt. I have no idea why this person decided to re-post my post about my > buying lunch for a homeless person. Just another example of because I asked > NMR to not top post, the trolls are crawling back out of the woodwork. I > seem to attract them like flies. Hey, I think that post made you look pretty good - compassionate and willing to help someone. So if the troll was trying to hurt you by reposting that, they failed. Joyce > > Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on > Google, no > doubt. I have no idea why this person decided to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce I agree! It was a pretty poor choice if it was intended to make me look like a bad person :) BTW, the homeless guy's name is Steve and he offered to wash my car for me next time it needs it. He pointed to where he "lives" (you don't want to know, it's very sad) and told me to come by when I want my car washed. Jill At least he was a man and admit he wanted food instead of booze. You did the right thing but you should have got some chili for yourself :-) Matthew > At least he was a man and admit he wanted food instead of booze. You > did the right thing but you should have got some chili for yourself > :-) > > Matthew I make better chili than they sell at Wendy's ;) Jill > I make better chili than they sell at Wendy's ;) I used to enjoy Wendy's chili, and order it a lot. It's one of the less bad for you items on their menu. I guess I ordered it once too often. Lately, the smell of their chili (and theirs alone) makes me slightly ill.  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I make better chili than they sell at Wendy's ;) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I guess I ordered it once too often. Lately, the smell of their chili > (and theirs alone) makes me slightly ill. Ahem. Lest I make anyone ill, turn the page, quickly! I worked with a programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. Granted, this was 25 years ago, but they had what was called the "chili pot". Any burger that got dropped on the floor, burned, was sent back due to an incorrect order, etc. went into the chili pot. Yeppers, they used the gross stuff to make chili. Jill > I worked with a >programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. Granted, >this was 25 years ago, but they had what was called the "chili pot". Any >burger that got dropped on the floor, burned, was sent back due to an >incorrect order, etc. went into the chili pot. I can attest to that. My son worked at Wendy's as a teenager and told us much the same thing. He is now a vegetarian. Jeanne >> I worked with a >> programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jeanne I'm not a vegetarian, but I enjoy a decent bean soup made without beef. And I never did like Wendy's chili even *before* I knew what they did to add flavour to it! LOL Jill >> I worked with a >>programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. Granted, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I can attest to that. My son worked at Wendy's as a teenager and >told us much the same thing. He is now a vegetarian. Along the same line, my Dad has always refused to eat chicken sold at grocery store deli's. His reason: he spent his working years working in grocery stores as a produce manager. When the chicken in the meat department started to smell bad they's roast it and sell it. Course this was years and years ago, I think he's been retired for 30 years now. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot with loving memories of Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >>> I worked with a >>>programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. Granted, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >this was years and years ago, I think he's been retired for 30 years >now. My FIL refused to eat real butter. He worked at a creamery as a young man and if a rat, mouse, or other disgusting critter would fall into the butter vat it would just get fished out. Purrs and Hugs, Nan and the furkids A wise man talks because he has something to say; a fool talks because he has to say something. >>> I worked with a >>>programmer who put himself through college working at Wendy's. Granted, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > this was years and years ago, I think he's been retired for 30 years > now. I think if people knew what really goes on in restaurants and groceries, everyone would grow their own vegetables and raise their own livestock! SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >I think if people knew what really goes on in restaurants and groceries, >everyone would grow their own vegetables and raise their own livestock! Yep. And then when they found out how much hard work and expense goes into growing healthy crops and raising healthy livestock, they'd go back to the cheaper, mass-produced stuff and console themselves that people really don't get poisoned by such food very often, so statistically they're okay. I've seen people go through that cycle. SignatureWayne M. > >I think if people knew what really goes on in restaurants and groceries, > >everyone would grow their own vegetables and raise their own livestock! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > people go through that cycle. > Wayne M. So true. It is a *lot* of work. DH & I raised an organic garden (well, close to organic)...and canned all the vegetables. It was fun to do, just to see if we could do it, but the next year we went on a much smaller scale. Way too much work for 2 people. Sherry >>At least he was a man and admit he wanted food instead of booze. You >>did the right thing but you should have got some chili for yourself [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I make better chili than they sell at Wendy's ;) Doesn't everybody? >> At least he was a man and admit he wanted food instead of booze. You >> did the right thing but you should have got some chili for yourself [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill No doubt! I've seen some of your dishes and descriptions. Yummy! Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe >> At least he was a man and admit he wanted food instead of booze. You >> did the right thing but you should have got some chili for yourself [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Jill Ah, but there's a secret to eating Wendy's chili. When I lived in the barracks at FT Ord, in the mid-70s, it was a staple in my diet. Get a BIG handful of there hot sauce (which is, IMHO, not very good either) and as many crackers as you can get away with - crush up the crackers and mix with all the sauce until the chili cup can't hold any more. Still not very good, but better. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot with loving memories of Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > He pointed to where he "lives" > (you don't want to know, it's very sad) It seems you and the beggar have alot in common His parents had nothing he remembers living below the corner store inheriting a legacy of poverty he learned the art of despair he learned to recieve nothing, especially love and later on the question whispered like a sparrow in his ear it burned like a fire in his spirit.. "will I find love" I know a girl who's parents had everything, living above the skyline Inheriting a legacy of provision she too learned the art of despair she learned to recieve everything except love and later on the question roaring like a lion in her ear it burned like a fire in her spirit "will i find love" > I know a girl who's parents had everything, living above the skyline > Inheriting a legacy of provision she too learned the art of despair > she learned to recieve everything except love > and later on the question roaring like a lion in her ear > it burned like a fire in her spirit > "will i find love" Hmmm. I finally give up. I'll give ten points to anyone who can name this tune. Sherry > > I know a girl who's parents had everything, living above the skyline > > Inheriting a legacy of provision she too learned the art of despair [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hmmm. I finally give up. > I'll give ten points to anyone who can name this tune. Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, and a shred of creativity. > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > and a shred of creativity. Thaaat's right will i find love I don't know who wrote the song, i didn't look i quoted from memory...it's interesting how it really goes: http://www.barryparrish.com/willifindlove.mp3 a group called "First Call" > > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > > and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > a group called "First Call" *Very* nice, I really like that. Wasn't a slam on you personally,Barry. Those words were just way too poetic for newsgroup chatter. :-) I thought there was probably a song there somewhere. Thanks for the link. Sherry > > > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > > > and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > *Very* nice, I really like that. Wasn't a slam on you personally,Barry. > Those words were just way too poetic for newsgroup chatter. :-) And you couldn't take the meaning of the lyrics without hearing the song? Read much poetry, do we? >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > a group called "First Call" Oh my, that was so beautiful it made me cry - thanks Barry! SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped Wasn't it? I thought so too. I'd love to have a recording of that. Mainstream music just doesn't appeal to me much anymore. That one is a keeper. Sherry >> >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, >> >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > keeper. > Sherry I like some modern music (Maroon 5, Green Day, Rob Thomas (both with and without Matchbox 20) - but I also love alternatives, especially ballads like this one - I'm playing it over and over to let it seep into my soul. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Oh my, that was so beautiful it made me cry - thanks Barry! He posts some pretty neat stuff. I love creative people who appreciate things like this. P.S. I hope Jessie is okay. She is my favorite of your cats--such a pretty little girly cat! >> >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, >> >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I love creative people who appreciate things like this. Yep, another reason I don't killfile - sometimes you can find a rose in a pile of horsesh*t! ;> Just kidding, Barry! > P.S. I hope Jessie is okay. She is my favorite of your cats--such > a pretty little girly cat! I hope so too. It's not urgent, so the vet told me to bring her in tomorrow at 10:30. I'll let everyone know what she says. Hugs, CatNipped >> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, >> and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > a group called "First Call" WILL I FIND LOVE (Marty and Vickie McCall / Bonnie Keen) Her parents had nothing; she remembers Living below the corner store. Handed down a legacy of poverty, She learned the art of despair. She learned to receive ... nothing, Especially love. And later on the question Whispered like a sparrow in her ear, Burned like a fire in her spirit ... Will I find love? What do I have to do to find love? Must I take it from you to find love? What will I have to go through to find love? Will my heart know the way to find love? Could it happen today? Is there Someone who hears me pray? His parents had everything; he remembers Living above the skyline. Inheriting a legacy of possessions, He learned the art of despair. He learned to receive ... everything Except love. And later on the question Roared like a lion in his ear, Oh, it burned like a fire in his spirit: Will I find love? What do I have to do to find love? Must I take it from you to find love? What will I have to go through to find love? Will my heart know the way to find love? Could it happen today? Is there Someone who hears me pray? Somewhere out there, I know it can't be very far ... If I try, I can hear it with my heart; Somewhere out there, beyond the hunger and the pain, I know You're there -- I can hear You call my name! Love! All my heart has to do to find love Is to give it to You to find love! All the searching is through to find love! Every prayer that I prayed to find love Led me here to this place To my Someone who hears me pray! All that I have to do to find love Is to reach out to You to find love! All the searching is through to find love. Every prayer that I prayed to find love Led me here to this place To my Someone who hears me pray! © 1992, 1995 Meadowgreen Music Company / Sony/ATV Tunes LLC / Molto Bravo! Music, Inc. / Julie Rose Music / ASCAP Hugs, CatNipped > WILL I FIND LOVE > (Marty and Vickie McCall / Bonnie Keen) [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > CatNipped And here is a picture of the band "First Call": http://www.first-call.org/index.htm and a list of their other songs: http://www.first-call.org/songs.html SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > WILL I FIND LOVE > (Marty and Vickie McCall / Bonnie Keen) > © 1992, 1995 Meadowgreen Music Company / Sony/ATV Tunes LLC / Molto Bravo! > Music, Inc. / Julie Rose Music / ASCAP > > Hugs, > > CatNipped I've met these writers above, except for vickie, they sang some back up on one of my albums in Nastyville. I don't think they'd mind if they knew I shared the song... but i better take it down for principal. Sherry goes...she'd love to have a copy of that? just right click and save target as or look in temporary internet files...it's in there. burry CatNipped wrote: > WILL I FIND LOVE > (Marty and Vickie McCall / Bonnie Keen) > © 1992, 1995 Meadowgreen Music Company / Sony/ATV Tunes LLC / Molto Bravo! > Music, Inc. / Julie Rose Music / ASCAP > > Hugs, > > CatNipped I've met these writers above, except for vickie, they sang some back up on one of my albums in Nastyville. I don't think they'd mind if they knew I shared the song... but i better take it down for principal. Sherry goes...she'd love to have a copy of that? just right click and save target as or look in temporary internet files...it's in there. burry I'll download a song that I like, but I always buy it aftwards - if I really like an artist, I want to him/her to be able to afford to stay the business! ;> SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Is this a Christian group? The lyrics sound that way to me. This brings up exactly what I was talking about in my last post to cybercat. Some people, whether or not they are privileged economically, never get the right kind of loving attention they need, and walk around in their lives feeling like there's something wrong with them, something lacking, some emptiness. The fact that several of us have resonated to those lyrics shows me that this is not at all uncommon. Many of us feel inadequate inside, whether we admit it or not. The thing is, most people don't admit it. They white-knuckle their way through life, acting more confident than they feel. And if somebody breaks that code by showing their insecurity, the vultures descend on them. So it's not even safe to show that you have those needs. Which makes it a very isolating experience for most people who might believe they're alone in their self-doubts. One feature of sadism is a desire to hurt the vulnerable. Non-sadists respond to vulnerability with protectivess, but sadists are angered by it and it makes them aggressive. I guess we have a pretty sadistic culture, when somebody's vulnerability makes other people want to stomp on them. Joyce > > a group called "First Call" > WILL I FIND LOVE > (Marty and Vickie McCall / Bonnie Keen) > Her parents had nothing; she remembers > Living below the corner store. > Handed down a legacy of poverty, > She learned the art of despair. > She learned to receive ... nothing, > Especially love. > And later on the question > Whispered like a sparrow in her ear, > Burned like a fire in her spirit ... > Will I find love? > What do I have to do to find love? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Could it happen today? > Is there Someone who hears me pray? > His parents had everything; he remembers > Living above the skyline. > Inheriting a legacy of possessions, > He learned the art of despair. > He learned to receive ... everything > Except love. > And later on the question > Roared like a lion in his ear, > Oh, it burned like a fire in his spirit: > Will I find love? > What do I have to do to find love? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Could it happen today? > Is there Someone who hears me pray? > Somewhere out there, I know it can't be very far ... > If I try, I can hear it with my heart; > Somewhere out there, beyond the hunger and the pain, > I know You're there -- I can hear You call my name! > Love! All my heart has to do to find love > Is to give it to You to find love! > All the searching is through to find love! > Every prayer that I prayed to find love > Led me here to this place > To my Someone who hears me pray! > All that I have to do to find love > Is to reach out to You to find love! > All the searching is through to find love. > Every prayer that I prayed to find love > Led me here to this place > To my Someone who hears me pray! > ? 1992, 1995 Meadowgreen Music Company / Sony/ATV Tunes LLC / Molto Bravo! > Music, Inc. / Julie Rose Music / ASCAP > Hugs, > CatNipped > Is this a Christian group? The lyrics sound that way to me. Yes, they are. > This brings up exactly what I was talking about in my last post to > cybercat. Some people, whether or not they are privileged economically, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Joyce Yeah, it's a sad commentary on our culture. I forgot who wrote this but it's true... stop anyone on the street and they can probably tell you any number of ways to kill someone, and even more ways to hurt someone - but how many people know how to give someone a really good massage? SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Yeah, it's a sad commentary on our culture. I forgot who wrote this but > it's true... stop anyone on the street and they can probably tell you any > number of ways to kill someone, and even more ways to hurt someone - but how > many people know how to give someone a really good massage? Thanks -- that is a thought-provoking comment. Yes, I know a fair number of ways to kill or disable someone, with or without weapons. I also do give excellent massages, both invigorating and sensual. Some of the skill in both comes from a good knowledge of medical sciences. It happened recently that I was chatting with a friend in US military special operations forces. Some circumstances conceivably might develop where I might be in the field with such people. The conversation wandered onto advanced field medicine. I observed that I hadn't ever put in a chest tube under supervision, and was not certified to do so by civilian organizations. He told me he has done that, with a little coaching over the radio, but then started to ask me a few questions. Did I know, physiologically, what the tube was to do (Yes)? Did I know the anatomy, especially places not to go (yes)? While I didn't know the tactile sensation of going through certain chest structures, did I know they were there, and that different instruments would be appropriate for going through each (yes)? He looked at me and said that if he even needed one, his first choice would be a mutual friend, but he'd certainly rather have me doing my first one on him than a clone of himself doing their first one > He looked at me and said that if he even needed one, his first choice > would be a mutual friend, but he'd certainly rather have me doing my > first one on him than a clone of himself doing their first one I find this exchange rhetorical you trust his opinion, even when he does not know what is proper i imagine one has to have a stomach to match the knowledge you know, if you was up to your wrists in someone > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > and a shred of creativity. Well, that DEFINITELY leaves YOU out then. > > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > > and a shred of creativity. > > Well, that DEFINITELY leaves YOU out then. you're in trouble >>> Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, >>> and a shred of creativity. >> Well, that DEFINITELY leaves YOU out then. > > you're in trouble Oh, I'm so scared - NOT! > > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > > and a shred of creativity. > > Well, that DEFINITELY leaves YOU out then. yes philip you are in trouble you old geek how long you been lurking there mmm mmm you ARE in trouble > > > Presumably someone with a working intellect, an imagination, > > > and a shred of creativity. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > you ARE in trouble I haven't stopped worrying about Omar. What a beautiful little brown tabby boy his is. Or was. :( > yes philip you are in trouble Philip? <buzzer> Wrong! If you really think I am Philip - whoever that is - your dumber that I thought! > Philip? <buzzer> Wrong! If you really think I am Philip - whoever that > is - your dumber that I thought! put a pin in it will ya..i know all about you mr orange county ca !hee >> Philip? <buzzer> Wrong! If you really think I am Philip - whoever that >> is - your dumber that I thought! > > put a pin in it will ya..i know all about you mr orange county ca > > !hee I guess you really are an imbecile or at the very least ignorant. If you had any intelligence or the slightest shred of applicable knowledge you would be able to tell I am NOT posting from orange county, CA or anywhere near it for that matter. > I guess you really are an imbecile or at the very least ignorant. If you > had any intelligence or the slightest shred of applicable knowledge you > would be able to tell I am NOT posting from orange county, CA or > anywhere near it for that matter. Your IP address resolves to Chula Vista, CA, but your proxy is false, so all bets are off. -L. > I guess you really are an imbecile or at the very least ignorant. If you > had any intelligence or the slightest shred of applicable knowledge you > would be able to tell I am NOT posting from orange county, CA or > anywhere near it for that matter. that was last week i dont care about that now philip >> I guess you really are an imbecile or at the very least ignorant. If you >> had any intelligence or the slightest shred of applicable knowledge you >> would be able to tell I am NOT posting from orange county, CA or >> anywhere near it for that matter. > > that was last week i dont care about that now philip Last week? It was a few days ago based on the times of the posts! You go ahead and believe I am Philip even though I am not if it suits you. Apparently that is all your limited mentality can fathom. I tire of dealing with mentally disadvantaged and morally deranged people like you and will ignore you forthwith and forevermore. Though calling you mentally disadvantaged is an insult to mentally disadvantaged people everywhere! > >> I guess you really are an imbecile or at the very least ignorant. If you > >> had any intelligence or the slightest shred of applicable knowledge you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > mentally disadvantaged is an insult to mentally disadvantaged people > everywhere! You're new at this, aren't you. Grow a sense of humor. Life is a lot more fun when you have one. > > Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on Google, > > no [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > willing to help someone. So if the troll was trying to hurt you by > reposting that, they failed. Not only did it make you look great Jill, but it is a good reminder to all of us to have compassion for those we see on the side of the road, so to say. Even a troll wannabe can post good from time to time. Pam S. Pamela Shirk wrote: >>> Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on >>> Google, no [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pam S. It made me *feel* good, which was more important than looking good. I hope others are inspired to do the same. While I'm at it, let me urge everyone to give food to their local food bank. When I go shopping I pick up a couple of extra cans of whatever and toss them in a box. Unfortunately the Memphis Food Bank doesn't accept meats or fresh produce - no place to store the stuff - but canned, boxed and bagged stuff is always welcomed. And paper goods and of course, cat and dog food :) Jill <SNIP> > Jill let your giving be done in secret if you sound a trumpet before you, then you got your reward. a nice pat on the back. pat pat pat...want some more? here...pat pat pat let your good deeds be done in secret...this way, your heavenly father will see them and reward you openly try it sometime good luck > > > Evelyn, that was MY post. Copy/pasted after being looked up on Google, > > > no [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam S. Oh please. It is utterly disgusting to toss a crumb to a desperate person then post about it so every halfwit here says "good for you!" Ugh. Where were you people hatched? You do good in order to do good, not to display it and get "points" for it. No wonder so many of you have so much to whine about. Anyone who would make that kind of post--or think that post reflects well on the one who made it--has been raised in an environment so hideously impoverished with regard to morality and just plain decency that they are way beyond any help. Ugh. ugh. ugh. > No wonder so many of you have so much to whine about. > Anyone who would make that kind of post--or think that post [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ugh. I don't see how it can get any clearer the real obstacle is that people don't want to hear this You have spent your arrows in vain my precious my love fuckem if they can't take a joke arrogance comes so easily, thank the Lord im not like him or her to delight in anothers misfortune, all the while time and chance baby is dealt to everyone i could have been born a poor black child in Africa... I get so sick of Jill a talented soul...meatloafing around this newsgroup But you could never talk her out of her complacency and mediocrity because you have to build someone up for them to wanna make a difference to make a change... ah, they are not true my delight, they are not true to themselves > Oh please. It is utterly disgusting to toss a crumb to a desperate > person then post about it so every halfwit here says "good for you!" And who is harmed by this behavior? > Ugh. Where were you people hatched? > You do good in order to do good, not to display it and > get "points" for it. People do good for all sorts of reasons. And as long as what someone offers me really is helpful, I don't give a damn what their motives are. > Anyone who would make that kind of post--or think that post > reflects well on the one who made it--has been raised in an > environment so hideously impoverished with regard to morality > and just plain decency that they are way beyond any help. OK, suppose this is true. I'm not saying it is. But suppose it is. Is this someone's fault, what kind of environment they were *raised* in? What kind of warped mindset tries to hold people responsible for how their parents behaved when they were children? Why don't you save your righteous moral indignation for something worthy of that response? Such as child abuse, animal neglect, invading sovereign nations without provocation... and not try to analyze people's motives for doing something nice, in the hope of discovering some minor imperfection you can attack? Nobody's motives are pure, except maybe yours, of course. Joyce > > Oh please. It is utterly disgusting to toss a crumb to a desperate > > person then post about it so every halfwit here says "good for you!" > > And who is harmed by this behavior? Nobody. I think Jill was more shocked that the guy actually accepted the food than anything else. And I think that's what prompted her to post about it. At least that's how I took it. I don't think anyone was really impressed that Jill bought some guy a hamburger, nor was she looking for any approval. *C'mon* - the people here aren't *that* insipid. -L >> > Oh please. It is utterly disgusting to toss a crumb to a desperate >> > person then post about it so every halfwit here says "good for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the food than anything else. And I think that's what prompted her to > post about it. Exactly. I don't know about the homeless folks where 'cybercat' lives but the impression around here is the majority of them are drug addicts or alcoholics. This isn't necessarily true, but just see how many will accept food rather than cash. There are folks here who pretend to be homeless and then go home to a 4000 sq. foot house with a 3 car garage; they make their living pretending to be homeless. Steve (this guy) was actually grateful to get a sandwich and didn't want to take advantage of me by asking for fries, a cola or the chili, which made me all the more willing to give him any and all of the above. > At least that's how I took it. I don't think anyone was really > impressed that Jill bought some guy a hamburger, nor was she looking [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -L I wasn't trying to impress anyone so much as to say hey, do a good deed from time to time. It comes back threefold and if nothing else makes you feel good :) Jill > >> > Oh please. It is utterly disgusting to toss a crumb to a desperate > >> > person then post about it so every halfwit here says "good for [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Jill Actually, that post fits in perfectly with many in this group. My comments were intended to address the question raised--by Joyce and others--about what anyone could find offensive about the post. While I certainly did not repost it (someone from CA did, according to the IP) I can see why it might be used to demonstrate some things about your character, and about the characters of those who would "congratulate" you for doing a fraction of what decent people do every day without crowing about it in Usenet. More on a level that people like you and Lyn might understand, (the one we hit when we go down about 1/4 inch), it is just bad personal style. Bad form. Tom Robbins once said that style is 90% of life. While I don't necessarily agree that this is true, I do cringe when I see all this "pet me, stroke meeeeeee, tell me I am goooooood" crap. It's like Lyn constantly yammering on about how Peta she is, and green, and wearing her self-righteous aggression like a badge of courage when all it is is SEE ME?! LOOK AT HOW EVOLVED I AM! Just like Jill's pathetic Display of her Generosity, it harms nobody, I will admit. It just nauseates many of us. And that is why someone not quite a fan of yours probably reposted your "good deed" post. Nothing personal, you understand. Just answering the question. > I can see why it might be used to demonstrate some things about your > character, and about the characters of those who would "congratulate" > you for doing a fraction of what decent people do every day without > crowing about it in Usenet. As I said in another post, if you find such acts so commonplace as to consider Jill's generosity a mere fraction of what you see all around you, then you ought to count your blessings, rather than judging people who are surprised by an act of kindness. Perhaps those people don't see it very often. And if they don't, why not take a compassionate attitude toward them, since they're obviously not as lucky as you are to witness everyday acts of generosity and kindness? Also, what's so terrible about wanting approval? I'm not saying that Jill wants or needs it, but even if she did, so what? We live in a pretty harsh world where most children don't get the kind of loving attention we all need to grow into secure adults. Most of us walk around with a deficit of inner security, whether we admit it openly or not. So if she (or anyone else) were to ask for approval by announcing that she did something nice (no matter how trivial it may be), what's wrong with that? It's not like she tried to imply she was better than anyone else. She was just telling a story, about something she felt good about. I really don't get the need to trash that, unless you find open displays of emotional need (or what you *interpret* as such a display, since I'm not convinced that's what Jill was doing) embarrassing or offensive for some reason. Well, they all mocked Sally Field after her outburst at the Oscars several years back - I guess it's just not "cool" to be so openly needful of others' approval. But in my experience, people who see that kind of emotional openness as "pathetic" often have insecurities that they don't accept in themselves. That may not be true of you - only you know that. Joyce > But in my experience, people who see that kind of emotional openness as > "pathetic" often have insecurities that they don't accept in themselves. > That may not be true of you - only you know that. > > Joyce Believe me, many know that of her. You hit the nail on the head, and you haven't even been around all that long. -L. > More on a level that people like you and Lyn might understand, > (the one we hit when we go down about 1/4 inch), it is just bad personal [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Nothing personal, you understand. Oh Puh-leese. The fact is Jill, I, and others share part of ourselves with people we like, whom we consider friends. That terrifies you because, frankly, it makes us *human* and makes us vulnerable. You choose not to share anything of yourself, lest you be rejected. You're pitiful, is what you are. And rejection is exactly what you get. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Enjoy it. -L. > > More on a level that people like you and Lyn might understand, > > (the one we hit when we go down about 1/4 inch), it is just bad personal [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > because, frankly, it makes us *human* and makes us vulnerable. You > choose not to share anything of yourself, lest you be rejected. Yes, Lyn, you must be right. I feel disgusted, but I am secretly terrified. Idiot. > You're pitiful, is what you are. And rejection is exactly what you > get. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Enjoy it. I am not looking for acceptance in Usenet--particularly not from rank posers like you. Eyyuu. Usenet is not an emotional experience for me, Lyn. It is for you because you are insane. You actually derive some of your shaky self worth from the self aggrandizing bullshit you post on Usenet, and you think this is actually a normal way to live. At any rate, as long as I am getting rejected by pieces of sh.t like you I will know I am doing okay. > I wasn't trying to impress anyone so much as to say hey, do a good > deed from time to time. It comes back threefold and if nothing else > makes you feel good :) Well, I'm impressed by any act of kindness, no matter how small the gesture. And I think that if someone is so completely surrounded by generous people, that your good deed seems paltry and trivial to her, then she should count her blessings, rather than judge others for being pleased by what you did. I don't see all that many people buying hamburgers for street people, so it's nice when I see or hear of someone doing that. And I fail to see how it makes *me* morally bankrupt just because I don't observe a lot of kindness in others. I haven't bought food for people that often, but I do give cash. I know buying food is better because then you know the money's going to nutrition, and not drugs or alcohol. But I don't do a lot of walking around the city, where I'd get a chance to actually go into a store or restaurant. Usually I drive to my destination, do whatever it was I went there to do, and leave. However, there are always people at traffic lights, asking for cash, so that's when I make donations. A couple of years ago I was eating outside, at a restaurant that had an outdoor patio. Someone came up to our table and said, "I'm so hungry, could you give me some cash so I can get some food?" I had just been served, so my plate was full, and I offered to give him half of what was on my plate. And he got this really disgusted look on his face and said, crossly, "I don't want THAT!" and stalked off in a huff. So I do agree that, when possible, it's better to buy food than to give cash. Joyce > A couple of years ago I was eating outside, at a restaurant that had > an outdoor patio. Someone came up to our table and said, "I'm so hungry, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joyce What bothers me are the "homeless' (whether or not they really are) that exploit animals to receive money. You will see them sitting at the corner with their dog with a sign claiming the dog needs medical attention. I once had a lady on the street approach me with a kitten (I was with a group of friends) and ask for shelter. I offered to take the kitten for her and find it a good home but she was unwilling to do that. The poor little thing was bloated with worms. I still wonder what happened to that kitten. Many times they will use animals to barter with. So many times I have seen the same person with a cat, kitten, dog or puppy, and then the next week it is gone. :( -L. > > I wasn't trying to impress anyone so much as to say hey, do a good > > deed from time to time. It comes back threefold and if nothing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joyce My case in point. The guy you offered food to didn't want food, he wanted cash. He wasn't starving enough to eat what was on your plate; he wanted cash. Anyone who turns down free food can't really be starving. Back in 1982 I was married and my husband wouldn't hold a job and I didn't have money to buy food. I had the choice - spend $1 on gas to get to work or by four Kroger "cost cutter" chicken pot pies for a dollar. I know what it's like to be practically broke. Nearly 30 years later I'm better off even though I'm unemployed but hey, I keep food in my pantry and in the freezer and I make sure I have a roof over my head. This guy Steve, he is living in a refrigerator box. I could probably go the extra mile but I don't trust *anyone* that far. Jill > Exactly. I don't know about the homeless folks where 'cybercat' lives but > the impression around here is the majority of them are drug addicts or > alcoholics. This isn't necessarily true, but just see how many will accept > food rather than cash. There are folks here who pretend to be homeless and > then go home to a 4000 sq. foot house with a 3 car garage; they make their > living pretending to be homeless. One of the TV stations in Indy did an expose on that a few years back. They offered these people with "will work for food" signs real jobs and they wouldn't take them. > Steve (this guy) was actually grateful to > get a sandwich and didn't want to take advantage of me by asking for fries, > a cola or the chili, which made me all the more willing to give him any and > all of the above. The sad thing is that single men don't qualify for any social services in some states. IMO, that's just FUBAR. <snip> > I wasn't trying to impress anyone so much as to say hey, do a good deed from > time to time. It comes back threefold and if nothing else makes you feel > good :) Gotcha. I figured as much. -L. > The trolls are crawling back out of the woodwork. I > seem to attract them like flies. > > Jill keep going! first you use the big F word for no good reason then you call someone like SSC a troll? maybe they was taking up for you jill and highligting one of you good deeds... mhmm now you say you are like sh.t and attract flies you are pretty self destructive > I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. So > rather [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Jill That brought tears to my eyes, Jill. I'm glad you did that. I think you're right about his pride. Joy > That brought tears to my eyes, Jill. I'm glad you did that. I think you're > right about his pride. > > Joy your a lying asskissing sack of sh.t > I'm hot, sweaty, irritated with my family and a little weary. Barry, hon, Jill is the least of the objectionable here. Besides, it's "Ani-mail call!" -L. (Cinnamon Toast Crunch) |
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