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Magic Mood Jeep© - 05 Jan 2006 14:17 GMT Term of endearment: City calls pet owners 'guardians' New language in animal code won't have any legal effect on animal ownership
by Sarah Morin 331-4363 | smorin@heraldt.com January 5, 2006 Chalk one up for dogs, cats, gerbils, rabbits - and the people who love them.
Bloomington has joined 13 American cities that recognize "guardian" as a term to describe the relationship between the four-legged and two-legged.
A change to the city's revamped animal code, which was approved last month, now includes "owner/guardian."
The goal of this new language is to better reflect how many people view their pets - as living creatures such as friends and family members, not objects such as cars and toys, said Karen Smith, who led the effort.
"We've changed the ways we talk about racial references; (this is) another linguistic change along those lines," she said.
As a next step, Smith would like to see other groups start using guardian in their publications and presentations so it catches on. Smith is a "rodent person" and the proud guardian of Josh, a gerbil.
The addition of "guardian" to the city code is more of a semantic statement, not one that will pose legal challenges or responsibilities.
Using "guardian" is about changing that ownership mindset, according to its supporters.
But that mindset is still in place in the courts.
"You can call it a guardian, but that doesn't mean the person isn't legally an owner," said local attorney Guy Loftman.
For example, if two dog "guardians" got a divorce, Fido would be considered property under state divorce law. He wouldn't get the child custody treatment.
The same would go for dog bites. Call it owner or guardian - the person with or (without) the leash would still be responsible.
When told of the new animal code wording, Loftman said it reminded him of a scene from "Return of Pink Panther."
In the Peter Sellers film, a blind man with a monkey is collecting money and the cop approaches him. The blind man says he's not my monkey; we share the apartment and he (the monkey) uses the money to pay rent, Loftman recalled of the scene in one of his favorite movies.
"I personally think dogs are property - pets are property, not people. There's no reason to give them person status," Loftman said. "But hey, I got bigger things to worry about."
Not Elliot Katz.
A retired veterinarian, he started pushing the guardian campaign years ago. He is founder and president of the California-based group In Defense of Animals.
He said the term "guardian" falls much closer to other words people use with pets: Most people adopt pets, not buy them; and they call them by name, not "it."
"To me, the term 'guardian' is a term of endearment and responsibility," Katz said. "If our language changes, usually action follows."
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CatNipped - 05 Jan 2006 14:39 GMT Well, I guess it was too much to hope for that they would adopt the term "slaves" for those who are owned by cats, so "guardian" will have to do for now! ;>
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> Term of endearment: City calls pet owners 'guardians' > New language in animal code won't have any legal effect on animal [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > "To me, the term 'guardian' is a term of endearment and responsibility," > Katz said. "If our language changes, usually action follows." kilikini - 05 Jan 2006 17:06 GMT > Well, I guess it was too much to hope for that they would adopt the term > "slaves" for those who are owned by cats, so "guardian" will have to do for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > CatNipped Hee hee hee, good one!
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 06 Jan 2006 02:32 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> Term of endearment: City calls pet owners 'guardians' > New language in animal code won't have any legal effect on animal > ownership Hey, you've gotta start somewhere.
To me, the important part of changing the mindset, outside of the legal arena, is to get away from thinking of animals as personal property, which gives people the idea that they can do whatever they please with "it". And even if legally, people are still considered "owners", it's already true that you can't just do whatever you please with your pets - if you abuse or neglect them, you can have your pet taken away, or even be criminally charged. So changing the language is just the next step in changing people's approach.
San Francisco made this change (to "guardian") several years ago, which of course made us a laughing stock, but what else is new? I like being on the leading edge of change and progress. It means that every time you try something new, everyone thinks you're weird, but within a few years, everyone takes that same thing for granted.
Yay Bloomington!
Joyce
dnr - 07 Jan 2006 23:26 GMT I was only aware of the "other" Bloomington (Illinois) till "meeting" you in Indiana (home of the dreaded Colts we fear so much out here) but if you missed it, the other day I was watching the Food Channel and some lady from your city won $100,000 first prize - probably in your local paper by now - for concocting some elaborate dish that tweaks all taste sensors in our tongues; that impressed the h*** out of the contest judges. She was not cocky and overconfident as some ladies in these contests are on tv and I thought of you when they announced where she was from.
badwilson - 08 Jan 2006 02:32 GMT > I was only aware of the "other" Bloomington (Illinois) till > "meeting" you in Indiana (home of the dreaded Colts we [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > on tv and I thought of you when they announced where > she was from. That sounds like she cooked Thai food. Thais often have sweet, salty, spicy and sour in the same food and every Thai table has a little tray with 4 little containers of condiments: sugar, fish sauce, chili powder and vinegar.
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 08 Jan 2006 02:49 GMT > I was only aware of the "other" Bloomington (Illinois) till > "meeting" you in Indiana (home of the dreaded Colts we [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > on tv and I thought of you when they announced where > she was from. I think they listed her in the paper a few months ago, when the episode was filmed, and even listed her recipe!
But on another note.... <sarcasm> How could you *not* hear of Bloomington, IN, the home of IU and Bobby Knight (formerly referred to as a deity, but, well - he's moved on to TX now... and ironically, the arena where he now coaches is on a street named Indiana :D) and the *5* time NCAA champions in college basketball?!?!?!?!?!?!? </sarcasm>
All silliness aside, there are a *lot* of Bloomington out there: Indiana Illinois Minnesota Michigan (suburb of Detroit) California (hey-hoe, we're from) Idaho (sorry - couldn't resist that 0 it keeps playing through my mind from that old potato commercial) Kentucky Maryland Nebraska New York North Carolina there's *2* in Pennsylvania, designated by their counties Texas Wisconsin there's *4* in Missouri designated by their counties (2 are hyphenated with some other town/city) there's *2* in Kansas designated by their counties Iowa Ohio Oklahoma Tennessee Utah and then you digress into the - Parks, - Ferrys, and assorted other 2nd-name burghs.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Jan 2006 03:43 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> All silliness aside, there are a *lot* of Bloomington out there: > Indiana > Illinois > Minnesota ....
Isn't there one in Connecticut, too? Or am I confusing it with some other Blooming-something? (And no smartass comments from the UK! :))
Joyce
dnr - 08 Jan 2006 05:35 GMT > But on another note.... <sarcasm> How could you *not* hear of Bloomington, > IN, the home of IU and Bobby Knight (formerly referred to as a deity, but, > well - he's moved on to TX now... and ironically, the arena where he now > coaches is on a street named Indiana :D) and the *5* time NCAA champions > in college basketball?!?!?!?!?!?!? </sarcasm> I am the Grand Poobah of sarcasm, Jeepgirl but you got an impressive array there you listed. I am first to admit when ignorant of anything and clueless of these dudes you are proud of; unfortunately I am only into NFL football and Peyton Manning is DA MAN of Indiana and I'm not the only one who thinks so. He is the engine of the Colts, so to speak. My team is in the playoffs but our QB is not near as good as PM in the "unstoppable" category (argueable). Our only hope, if forced to play Colts, is that it happens here where no one normal can breathe very well upon first arriving, LOL. All the other sports teams from this state suck terribly and all have just one player that's any good (not a good thing for championship).8P
Wayne Mitchell - 08 Jan 2006 13:52 GMT >But on another note.... <sarcasm> How could you *not* hear of Bloomington, >IN, the home of IU and Bobby Knight (formerly referred to as a deity, but, >well - he's moved on to TX now... and ironically, the arena where he now >coaches is on a street named Indiana :D) and the *5* time NCAA champions in >college basketball?!?!?!?!?!?!? </sarcasm> I'm very familiar with stories of Bloomington, IN, because my sister graduated from IU, class of '65. We thought it was utterly absurd for a Maine farm girl to go all that way just to go to college, so when it came my turn I went to East Lansing, MI. :-)
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