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Wayne Mitchell - 04 Jan 2006 21:31 GMT
I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
After a half hour he said he was ready to eat, so I gave him a
small meal, and now he's sleeping on the window shelf beside me
as I type.

He had two teeth extracted, which is about what the vet
predicted.  The poor boy only has three left, but I'm sure it
won't faze him any.

There were no complications, his geriatric blood panel looks
excellent, and he got microchipped and had his nails trimmed.
He'll be on antibiotics for another 14 days.

Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
tenderly in your thoughts.

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CatNipped - 04 Jan 2006 21:37 GMT
YAY!  Thanks for the good news Wayne!

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> I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
> recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
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> Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
> tenderly in your thoughts.
Karen - 04 Jan 2006 22:12 GMT
Good deal. How old is Will? He'll be happier with those teeth out!

> I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
> recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
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> Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
> tenderly in your thoughts.
Wayne Mitchell - 04 Jan 2006 23:11 GMT
>How old is Will?

Well now, that's been under discussion recently.  On the visit
that led up to this dental surgery, Dr. Giroux told me that his
estimate of 9-10 years when I brought Will in for his first
check-up in March of '03 was heavily influenced by the condition
of Will's teeth (three were extracted at the time).  Now he
doesn't think Will's general condition suggests a 12-13yo, and
he thinks Will is just prone to tooth problems, so maybe we
should take two or three years off the estimate.  I've decided
to think of him as a ten-year-old.

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Steve Touchstone - 05 Jan 2006 09:18 GMT
>>How old is Will?
>
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>should take two or three years off the estimate.  I've decided
>to think of him as a ten-year-old.

I know giw that works, too. The first time I took Rocky to TED he was
still semi-feral. The vet did a minimal exam, gave him a long-acting
anitbiotic for the abcess leg wound, which was the readon for the
visit, and guess made a guess as to his age. Over the course of the
next three or four years his age never changed, each time they revised
it downward. So he was 6-8 years old the entire four years I knew him
;-)
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Christina Websell - 07 Jan 2006 15:47 GMT
>>How old is Will?
>
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> should take two or three years off the estimate.  I've decided
> to think of him as a ten-year-old.

I don't really know how old Kitty FC is either.  The first time I took her
to TED's was maybe 5 or more years ago when she was still living in the
garden but I was feeding her.  I'd noticed she was a bit wobbly on her feet
and she turned out to have ear mites.
That was a really fun appointment.  We arrived at the vets milliseconds
before she exploded out of her cardboard cat carrier which she had been
ripping at with claws and teeth the entire journey ;-)
I asked the vet if he could estimate her age.  He said it's quite difficult
to guess the age of a cat once it's adult, but in her case he said  "let's
just call her a very senior lady.."  Nice.
In 2004, when she went missing and was found injured, I asked for another
age estimate.  The verdict was around 18 years, and if that's true now means
she is entering her 20th year.
It seems a bit of an overestimate to me, but then, I don't know much, these
2 are the first cats I've had since one I had in childhood.
She is certainly an old cat, there is no doubt about that.  Her fur always
looks greasy now and sticks out even though I groom her regularly.  Where
she grooms herself, there is always a tongue mark.
I gave her a dry-shampoo with some stuff I got a while ago, but it didn't
make much difference.  I've given her margarine and some vegetable oil on
her food, but her fur still looks, well, not so nice as I would like.

I can pretty well say for certain when I first noticed Kitty, because my
lurcher Trim was still alive then (RB 1995) and liked to "help" with the
chickens too.  Kitty would be mousing and ratting round the huts in those
days, maybe 1993.  They (Trim & Kitty) eventually became friends, although
Trim, like most lurchers, would kill a cat as soon as look at one normally.
Kitty always kept "just" out of Trim's reach for a couple of years until
they got used to each other.
My estimate for Kitty's age is 16 ish.  She could be nearly 20 I suppose,
but wouldn't this be very unusual?  It seems very old for a cat - to me,
anyway.

Tweed
Adrian - 07 Jan 2006 16:20 GMT
>>> How old is Will?
>>
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>
> Tweed

The oldest cat ever, lived to be 36, there have been several that have
passed 30. The oldest cat I've ever met was 27. Snoopy wll be 16 in March, I
hope she has a few years left, she appears to be quite healthy at the moment
and still gets the zoomies sometimes.
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mlbriggs - 07 Jan 2006 18:26 GMT
>>>How old is Will?
>>
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>
> Tweed

I hate to appear dumb, but what is a "lurcher"?   I've never heard about
anything by that name.   MLB
Christina Websell - 08 Jan 2006 20:52 GMT
> I hate to appear dumb, but what is a "lurcher"?   I've never heard about
> anything by that name.   MLB

A lurcher is a dog that is a deliberate crossbreed between a sight hound
(greyhound, whippet, deerhound etc) and another breed of one's choice.  They
are used for hunting.
The reason for crossing the breeds is various.  Greyhounds and whippets have
paper thin skin which is easily torn, and some say it would not hurt them to
have an injection of brains ;-) so a collie is sometimes crossed in for more
biddability (is that a word?) and a bit longer coat.
Whippet/bedlington terrier is a good cross for hunting rabbits.
Greyhound/collie is good too.  The bigger crosses, like greyhound/deerhound
are mainly used for foxes and deer.
Three and four way crosses also occur as breeders of hunting lurchers refine
what they want in their ideal lurcher.
Trim was a greyhound/deerhound/whippet/collie.  24 inches at the shoulder
and looked like a small Irish wolfhound.

The rescues are full of lurchers now hunting with dogs has been banned here.
Very few have a chance of getting a home at all, let alone a suitable one.
They are not conventionally attractive with their long legs, slim bodies,
tails tucked right under, long expressionless faces and often slitty eyes.
They can be aloof and don't endear themselves to members of the public
peering into a kennel looking for a pet.  They do not fawn.  Ever.
Thousands of them will be put down because no-one will want them.

If I didn't have the cats I would go to my local rescue and get a couple or
three.
I love them.  I love how they love me.  Very quietly, devotedly and with no
fuss.  I love how they curl up tiny on the smallest bed and you don't know
you've got them until there's a knock at the door.
I don't love how they thieve food at every opportunity, raid the fridge and
food cupboards and need to be watched very carefully around livestock and
birds.
I would still have some tomorrow if I could!

Tweed
mlbriggs - 09 Jan 2006 06:57 GMT
>> I hate to appear dumb, but what is a "lurcher"?   I've never heard about
>> anything by that name.   MLB
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>
> Tweed

Thanks for the info.  A day is not lost when one learns something new.
MLB
Karen - 07 Jan 2006 20:36 GMT
> I can pretty well say for certain when I first noticed Kitty, because
> my lurcher Trim was still alive then (RB 1995) and liked to "help" with
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>
> Tweed

No, not necessarily. And I think small hunter types really live longer.
Our female hunter cats lived to their twenties. the oldest was 23.
that's why I feel like I kill cats. My poor babies don't last long.
That last pic you took of her on her lilttle matt, I thought she looked
like she could be quite old. (But still lovley :)   )
Christina Websell - 09 Jan 2006 00:18 GMT
>> I can pretty well say for certain when I first noticed Kitty, because my
>> lurcher Trim was still alive then (RB 1995) and liked to "help" with the
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> Our female hunter cats lived to their twenties. the oldest was 23. that's
> why I feel like I kill cats. My poor babies don't last long.

Of course you don't kill cats, that's ridiculous.  Didn't Grant have
lymphoma or something like that, sorry if I can't remember exactly but I do
remember it wasn't anything you could have done about.  That's out of any
owner's control.

> That last pic you took of her on her lilttle matt, I thought she looked
> like she could be quite old. (But still lovley :)

She *is* old.  Maybe extremely old.  She won't say.  It's a secret only
Kitty FC knows.

Tweed
Karen - 09 Jan 2006 03:16 GMT
>>> I can pretty well say for certain when I first noticed Kitty, because
>>> my lurcher Trim was still alive then (RB 1995) and liked to "help" with
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> I do remember it wasn't anything you could have done about.  That's out
> of any owner's control.

Yes, it was lymphoma. Luckily Pearl, even with all her trouble, seems
to feel pretty good.  I know I'm not "killing" them, but it just seems
like they have had soo much trouble. I begin to feel a jinx.
Irulan - 04 Jan 2006 23:03 GMT
wonderful news. We are glad Will is home and recuperating well. More power
to him.
Lily & her mama

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> I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
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> Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
> tenderly in your thoughts.
Charleen Welton - 05 Jan 2006 00:31 GMT
So glad that Will is home healthy and hopefully happy.  Our Mr. Pumpkin has
had many teeth out and has luckily come out of each extraction episode
wonderfully pain free and comfortable while I was a wreck.  Now he goes
about his days with his cute pink tounge hanging out.  Good for Will!
Charleen
Mr. Pumpkin
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>> I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
>> recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
>> tenderly in your thoughts.
Marina - 05 Jan 2006 05:27 GMT
> There were no complications, his geriatric blood panel looks
> excellent, and he got microchipped and had his nails trimmed.
> He'll be on antibiotics for another 14 days.

Glad to hear Will's dental went so well. Purrs for the pilling! My tooth
extraction went equally well - the whole operation only took about 5-10
mintes from the injection of the local to the fitting of the temporary
denture. The dental surgeon recommended that I wear the denture only in
public, as it's not very comfortable (I agree about that!), and I've
been laughing at myself in the mirror at home. Gap-toothed old witch!
:oP The dental surgeon was surprised at how calm I was through it all.
She said patients who need to have a front tooth extracted often come to
her in tears because they are losing their tooth.

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Wayne Mitchell - 05 Jan 2006 14:19 GMT
>My tooth
>extraction went equally well - the whole operation only took about 5-10
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>She said patients who need to have a front tooth extracted often come to
>her in tears because they are losing their tooth.

Glad things went so well and that you weren't freaking out about
it.  How long before you get the permanent implant?

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Marina - 05 Jan 2006 21:01 GMT
> Glad things went so well and that you weren't freaking out about
> it.  How long before you get the permanent implant?

The operation is scheduled for the 6th of February. The surgeon said
that should go just as quickly as the extraction, so I'm not worried. At
least not yet. ;o)

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Christina Websell - 05 Jan 2006 14:57 GMT
> I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
> recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thank you, all who have sent purrs and good wishes or held us
> tenderly in your thoughts.

I'm so glad to hear Will is okay.  I've been a bit out of order healthwise
since before the New Year and not able to send appropriate purrs to anyone
but I was thinking about him.
However - since last night when I sweated so much overnight that my hair was
wet I feel a lot better.  Normal service will now be resumed ;-)
That was one nasty cold I had.

Tweed
Yoj - 05 Jan 2006 19:11 GMT
> > I brought Will home about 90 minutes ago.  He was fairly well
> > recovered from the anesthetic by then.  Boy was he thirsty!
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>
> Tweed

I hope it's truly gone, and that you keep on feeling better from now on.

Joy
Christina Websell - 06 Jan 2006 16:14 GMT
>> However - since last night when I sweated so much overnight that my hair
> was
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>
> Joy

I spoke a bit too soon, unfortunately.  Because I was feeling better I
started to do more, fell asleep at 6 pm last night, woke at 10.45 and then
was awake all night.  Yes, *all* night..  Now I have a fever again.

<sigh>  Why do I always do this?  I need to learn to give myself permission
to be ill but I never do.  I push myself far too hard and refuse to give in.
I'm not sure why.  Maybe it's just my cussedness ;-)

Tweed
polonca12000 - 06 Jan 2006 21:49 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear you are again not feeling well. Please let yourself
recover completely this time.
Lots of purrs,
Polonca and Soncek

> I spoke a bit too soon, unfortunately.  Because I was feeling better I
> started to do more, fell asleep at 6 pm last night, woke at 10.45 and then
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>
> Tweed
Wayne Mitchell - 06 Jan 2006 02:30 GMT
>That was one nasty cold I had.

So it seems.  Glad you're improving.  Do you think you may still
take a cold or fever harder because you haven't built your
resistance back up yet?

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Christina Websell - 06 Jan 2006 16:25 GMT
>>That was one nasty cold I had.
>
> So it seems.  Glad you're improving.  Do you think you may still
> take a cold or fever harder because you haven't built your
> resistance back up yet?

I'm not sure, Wayne.  I had a cold about a month ago that was easy-peasy,
sore throat, runny nose etc but was able to continue to go to work right
through it as I had no fever.  I was very surprised to get another one so
quickly and such a severe one, so maybe my immune system is a bit
compromised at the moment from having been so ill, and not yet in proper
working order.
Usually I can go years without getting a cold.

OTOH, my aunt told me yesterday that my cousin Margi was knocked out by
something that sounds identical and was in bed for three days over last
weekend.  Maybe there is "a lot of it about."
(does your doctor often say that to you?"  Mine does.)

Tweed
Jane - 06 Jan 2006 17:00 GMT
>>>That was one nasty cold I had.
>
>OTOH, my aunt told me yesterday that my cousin Margi was knocked out by
>something that sounds identical and was in bed for three days over last
>weekend.  Maybe there is "a lot of it about."
>(does your doctor often say that to you?"  Mine does.)

There's a cold that's been sweeping the country over here in the USA,
but it looks like it's sweeping the world now.

I caught it just after Christmas and I'm still hacking up a lung. This
was my first real cold in 2 years, and it was a doozy.  No fever, but
I actually called in sick to work for TWO DAYS (which meant I was
DYING), and only worked 2 half-days after that.  You know it's bad when
the boss looks and says, 'You're not staying, are you?'  lol

Anyway, it's a bad cold, but only a cold. Keep up with the Mucinex
(guafenisen) to keep the congestion moving, if you're asthmatic,
use your nebulizer twice a day (I have been), and it'll just be
a bad memory in a few weeks.   Keep pushing fluids, eat healthy
(if you can eat - I couldn't for 5 days), and rest when your body
tells you to rest.  We need to stay healthy for our masters.

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