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CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 02:06 GMT
I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in the
neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the little boy out
walking the dog later on that day.

And now Digger is hurt again!  Ben had nailed boards up on the small
openings in the fence, but there is just enough of a space left that Digger
got his paw through the opening and obviously got bitten again.  He will put
weight on the paw, but he's licking it constantly, favoring it, and when we
brought him inside so Ben could pick it up and look at it he peed on the
floor - something he never does.  He won't hold still for us to examine it
closely, but there's no bleeding and no obvious wound except a little
rawness that we can see.  He's running around outside, wagging his tail and
eating, so I don't think he is in great pain.

My question is, with such a slight injury what should I do.  We really can't
afford an emergency vet if this is something that can be tended at home and
then take him to the regular vet on Monday.  I don't even know how we would
get him there - my daughter didn't bring the large dog carrier, she's
bringing it when she comes back Tuesday.  Should we try to bathe it with
peroxide in the meantime or do you think it's something we should just pay
the $300 - $400 at the emergency vet (I guess we could try to strap him in
the seatbelt of the truck)?

Thanks for any advice.

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Enfilade - 01 Jan 2006 03:02 GMT
> My question is, with such a slight injury what should I do.  We really can't
> afford an emergency vet if this is something that can be tended at home and
> then take him to the regular vet on Monday.

While I prefer to err on the side of caution, if there really is no
visible blood and Digger is eating and looking overall healthy except
for his owie, then I would probably use peroxide and a bandage and keep
an eye on it.  If it gets worse (stumbling, heavy limping etc), take
him to the vet ASAP but if he's just got a raw area, it should heal up
on its own.

--Fil
-L. - 01 Jan 2006 04:20 GMT
> I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in the
> neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the little boy out
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> See all my masters at:  http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

As long as there isn't an obvious puncture wound that is bleeding
profusely, and the dog is alert, bright and responsive, it is fine to
wait until Monday to see the vet.  if it looks like it bleeds more
tomorrow, is obviously infected, red, hot or he is in a lot of pain,
seek medical attention.  Otherwise, I'd just clean it with peroxide
once, keep an eye on it and let it heal, and have the vet check it
Monday if you are still worried.  Most minor injuries heal on their
own.

-L.
CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 15:34 GMT
>> I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in the
>> neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the little boy
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> -L.

Thanks, that's kinda what I thought, but I've never owned dogs and didn't
know if they hide their pain like cats do.
-L. - 01 Jan 2006 18:53 GMT
> Thanks, that's kinda what I thought, but I've never owned dogs and didn't
> know if they hide their pain like cats do.

They do but not to the same extent that cats do.  I have been told they
don't "feel pain the same way we do" although I odn't think that's
entirely true.  I think minor pain just doesn't bother them as it does
us.

-L.
Jo Firey - 01 Jan 2006 04:21 GMT
>I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in the
>neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the little boy out
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> should just pay the $300 - $400 at the emergency vet (I guess we could try
> to strap him in the seatbelt of the truck)?

I wouldn't go with an emergency vet visit.  He should be fine.  The trip is
likely to be more trauma than help.

Jo
Helen Miles - 01 Jan 2006 12:23 GMT
> My question is, with such a slight injury what should I do.  Should we try to bathe it with
> peroxide in the meantime or do you think it's something we should just pay
> the $300 - $400 at the emergency vet (I guess we could try to strap him in
> the seatbelt of the truck)?
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Rather than scrub at it with peroxide, go to the pharmacy and ask for
either betadine solution/wash or Hibiscrub soap. Both are what surgeons
use for scrubbing up before surgery, it's a lot more gentle and mild
that peroxide, and it WILL quite litterally kill everything nasty. It
also won't hurt Digger when you wash out his paw with it, whereas the
peroxide will sting like buggery. Betadine/Hibiscrub is what I used on a
cat bite wound (I scrubbed it out good) when I got bitten by a Scottish
wildcat. Worked a treat.

Helen M  
Christine K. - 01 Jan 2006 12:58 GMT
>>My question is, with such a slight injury what should I do.  Should we try to bathe it with
>>peroxide in the meantime or do you think it's something we should just pay
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Helen M  

As an ex-d*gowner, I concur with Helen's advice - clean it up and
bandage it to keep Digger from licking at it. In addition to the
cleaning, I'd dust the wound with a bacteria-killing powder we have in
Finland before bandaging it. If you have something similar - a powder
for wound treatment (not in ointment form, as they tend to make the
wound "broil/swelter", the powder is better), dust the wound with that
before bandaging.

Veeeery rough translation from the manufacturer's site follows, should
the ingredients help you find a similar product in your local pharmacy:

The brand name of the powder is Bacibact, the acting ingredients are:
bacitracine 250 IU (international units) and neomysinesulfate 5 mg per
one gram of powder. They are locally used antibiotics, they destroy skin
infectants, especially pyogenic bacteria, by inhibiting their protein
syntesis. The powder is used on skin scratches, small wounds and
purulent skin infections.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 01 Jan 2006 17:02 GMT
> Veeeery rough translation from the manufacturer's site follows,
> should the ingredients help you find a similar product in your local
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> their protein syntesis. The powder is used on skin scratches, small
> wounds and purulent skin infections.

Is it silver? When I was a kid in Germany, our neighbors (more like my
second family) would put this silvery stuff on my cuts.  No idea what
it was.

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Christine K. - 01 Jan 2006 18:00 GMT
>>Veeeery rough translation from the manufacturer's site follows,
>>should the ingredients help you find a similar product in your local
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> second family) would put this silvery stuff on my cuts.  No idea what
> it was.

No, it's not silvery, but a white powder. My previous d*g used to have
the bad habit of licking her paws at times, until they were all red, raw
and sweltering. I used to clean her paws with a disinfectant and then
dust this powder into the cavity formed by her toes and pad before
bandaging her foot. It cleared it up in no time. Not sure why she'd lick
her paws in the first place tho, no wounds, splinters or anything there...

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Marina - 01 Jan 2006 18:57 GMT
> The brand name of the powder is Bacibact, the acting ingredients are:
> bacitracine 250 IU (international units) and neomysinesulfate 5 mg per
> one gram of powder. They are locally used antibiotics, they destroy skin
> infectants, especially pyogenic bacteria, by inhibiting their protein
> syntesis. The powder is used on skin scratches, small wounds and
> purulent skin infections.

It's antibiotic and anti-fungal.

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PatM - 01 Jan 2006 21:29 GMT
Betadine/Hibiscrub is what I used on a
cat bite wound (I scrubbed it out good) when I got bitten by a Scottish

wildcat. Worked a treat.}}

Helen, a Scottish wildcat...?  Is that different than a feral cat?
You've tweaked my curiosity!

PatM
Adrian - 01 Jan 2006 21:49 GMT
> Betadine/Hibiscrub is what I used on a
> cat bite wound (I scrubbed it out good) when I got bitten by a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> PatM

Compared to a Scottish Wildcat, a feral cat would be more like a lap cat.
:-)
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Enfilade - 02 Jan 2006 02:56 GMT
> Rather than scrub at it with peroxide, go to the pharmacy and ask for
> either betadine solution/wash or Hibiscrub soap. Both are what surgeons
> use for scrubbing up before surgery, it's a lot more gentle and mild
> that peroxide, and it WILL quite litterally kill everything nasty.

Unreal.  My family still uses rubbing alcohol on open wounds.  They
complain that peroxide "doesn't hurt enough," and if they use it, they
can't tell if it got into the wound or not.  The searing pain is an
indicitor that it has succesfully gotten in to clean the wound in their
opinions...

They put peroxide on my fresh piercings when I was six because that's
what the piercer said to do...for anything else, rubbing alcohol.

And yes, CN, DO keep reporting this hideous dog next door.

--Fil
jmcquown - 01 Jan 2006 13:21 GMT
> I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in
> the neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> see.  He's running around outside, wagging his tail and eating, so I
> don't think he is in great pain.

Call Animal Control again... NOW.  Yes, I know it's a holiday.  They
probably aren't open.  But report it.  NOW.  These people need more than a
notice on their door.  The dog is not friendly.  The dog will eventually
hurt and kill someone, if not your dog then a child.  It probably hasn't had
its shots, either.  Doesn't matter whether or not Digger has had his shots.
We're talking about that viscious taken in as a stray dog.

Do it.  Pick up the phone.  Now, please.

Jill
CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 15:38 GMT
>> I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in
>> the neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Jill

I couldn't - I just get a recording that redirects me to another number for
*human* bites - they won't even take a report, they just said I'd have to
call back when the office is open.

Hugs,

CatNipped
CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 16:11 GMT
I was able to get a good look at Digger's paw this morning in the sunlight.
I don't think it's a bite after all, it looks more like a scrape on the top
of his paw (he may have scraped it on the fence when he was trying to get at
the mean dog next door).  It's not deep or a puncture, the skin looks pretty
much intact, it just looks like the fur has been scraped off in a spot.  I
applied some peroxide last night to initially clean out the wound and then
put some Betadine on it (I had gotten that on the advice of this group when
Jessie scratched her paw pad a while back).  I don't think he would keep a
bandage on it, but I think it will be OK without one.  If he is still
favoring the paw tomorrow I'll arrange a trip to the vet to have it checked
out.

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>I am so angry and frustrated!  The notice that animal control left in the
>neighbor's door obviously didn't do a damn thing - I saw the little boy out
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Thanks for any advice.
Christina Websell - 01 Jan 2006 16:27 GMT
>I was able to get a good look at Digger's paw this morning in the sunlight.
>I don't think it's a bite after all, it looks more like a scrape on the top
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>is still favoring the paw tomorrow I'll arrange a trip to the vet to have
>it checked out.

I really wouldn't bother to take him to the vet for something as minor as
this.  Just do the same as you would do if it was yourself, keep it clean
with Betadine and give it a few days to heal.  Obviously if it seems
infected he might need some aunties, but it should be okay without, given
luck.  I'm not in favour of using peroxide on tissue injuries, there are far
better things on the market now.

Tweed
CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 16:47 GMT
>>I was able to get a good look at Digger's paw this morning in the
>>sunlight. I don't think it's a bite after all, it looks more like a scrape
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Tweed

I don't use Peroxide after the initial application because it keeps new
growth from forming, but it is very good for the initial injury since if
foams up and lifts all foreign matter out of the wound.  I just use it as a
wash and then apply Betadine or, for myself, Neosporin.

Hugs,

CatNipped
 
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