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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2004Ping Tweed (was missing posts)
In the thread on UK & US pronunciation when you mentioned your Leics. heritage, I posted that I used to live nearby, not far from Measham, had a pal in Lutterworth & commuted South via Sheepcote Magna or Parva on the A444. I wondered if any of these were local to you? Purrs Gordon & the TT  SignatureFeline family viewable at: http://community.webshots.com/user/exocat > In the thread on UK & US pronunciation when you mentioned your Leics. > heritage, I posted that I used to live nearby, not far from Measham, had a > pal in Lutterworth & commuted South via Sheepcote Magna or Parva on the > A444. > I wondered if any of these were local to you? I didn't see that post, I guess my server is dropping more posts than I realise. I live in the NE of the county, yours are all NW. I like the names Sheepy Magna & Parva, but I haven't yet been there. I think I once passed through Measham. I forgot it! It's near Coalville, isn't it? Through geneology I've found out that a (rich) ancestor, Robert Pawley "paved the streets of Lutterworth." out of his own pocket. I live about five miles from Leicester, 12 miles from Melton Mowbray, home of the famous Stilton cheese and Melton Mowbray pork pies, in the village of Thurmaston. Do you know it? Tweed Thought that must be it, I've found that ISP's vary widely in the 5age of posts that get through: mine (FreeUK) is near 100%, One.Tel & Tiscali used to be 75-90% respectively IME when compared to what arrives in Google's archive. Yes Measham's just a bit S of Coalville IIRC but it's in no way memorable. I actually lived in Castle Gresley, just over the Derbys. border, above Cadley Hill Colliery - the reason for mentioning this is that in the local dialect that was known as "oop't'pitbonk", and the conventional "how are you, young man?" came out as "yoamorlraytyoath?". So, yoamorlrraytmeduck? I'm afraid that's where my connection with the area ends: by nature I avoid cities like the plague (with which I half-believe they're all infested) so Leicester, Nottingham et al have never been troubled by a visit from yours truly. Glad to hear your ancestor upgraded Lutterworth: any chance the Council will give you a CTax rebate on the grounds of excessive prior contributions? :-) Before I went on a part-diet (to minimise the dread middle-aged spread) I often enjoyed Melton's finest. Ah, happy memories. Excuse me while I go & peel a carrot. AAMOI, how big's Thurmaston? Purrs Gordon SignatureFeline family viewable at: http://community.webshots.com/user/exocat > I didn't see that post, I guess my server is dropping more posts > than I realise. > I live in the NE of the county, yours are all NW. I live about five > miles from Leicester, 12 miles from Melton Mowbray, home of the > famous Stilton cheese and Melton Mowbray pork pies, in the village > of Thurmaston. > Thought that must be it, I've found that ISP's vary widely in the 5age > of posts that get through: mine (FreeUK) is near 100%, One.Tel & > Tiscali used to be 75-90% respectively IME when compared to what > arrives in Google's archive. I've just gone on wanadoo broadband a couple of months ago, so I'll see how it pans out. They were Freeserve in a previous life. > Yes Measham's just a bit S of Coalville IIRC but it's in no way > memorable. I actually lived in Castle Gresley, just over the Derbys. > border, above Cadley Hill Colliery - the reason for mentioning this is > that in the local dialect that was known as "oop't'pitbonk", and the > conventional "how are you, young man?" came out as > "yoamorlraytyoath?". Ah, yes, "youth" for young man. That's definitely a NW Leics thing. In fact the accent over there(!) even though not much more than 20 miles away is completely different. Sometimes I have to get a chap over for vermin control here, he's from Shepshed. He says "I dunna" (I don't) I canna (I can't) etc. "I willna" (I won't) "Mysen" (myself) Totally different from the east side. > So, yoamorlrraytmeduck? Yes, almost, thank you. Aya yoursen? > I'm afraid that's where my connection with the area ends: by nature I > avoid cities like the plague (with which I half-believe they're all > infested) so Leicester, Nottingham et al have never been troubled by a > visit from yours truly. Leicester isn't too bad, although I don't go there a lot. Nottingham is becoming dangerous with gun crime. > Glad to hear your ancestor upgraded Lutterworth: any chance the Council > will give you a CTax rebate on the grounds of excessive prior > contributions? :-) Good idea, I don't think they'll fall for it though. Dear Council,. In 1760 my ancestor paid for all the streets of Lutterworth to be paved. It must have cost a lot, so please will you let me off paying my council tax for ever.. Neither does it help that's it's a different council district ;-) Lutterworth is in Harborough District and Thurmaston is in Charnwood. I don't think I have a chance. > Before I went on a part-diet (to minimise the dread middle-aged > spread) I often enjoyed Melton's finest. Ah, happy memories. Excuse me > while I go & peel a carrot. Bah. Carrots. Diets. I was ill last year and lost 3 stone. I can now eat anything I like. <boast> I am still within the normal weight for my size and have been eating very naughty things. I shall however, keep my eye on it. If I reach 10 stone, it'll be time for the carrots :-( AAMOI, how big's Thurmaston? Well, it still calls itself a village, but it has really expanded in the last few years. Maybe 11,000 people, but I am lucky to live way out of the village nearly in the fields. Not far from Barkby, which is still a feudal village with a squire. Tweed On Sat, 25 Sep, Tweed wrote: >Gordon wrote: >> Thought that must be it, I've found that ISP's vary widely in the 5age >> of posts that get through: mine (FreeUK) is near 100%, One.Tel & [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >Tweed This time I'm going to mind my own business and refrain from commenting on the way English is spoken by our friends from the UK. Regards and Purrs, O J "Or was that a comment?" Gritmon > On Sat, 25 Sep, Tweed wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J "Or was that a comment?" Gritmon Lol! Hardly anyone speaks the "Queen's English" here, except the Queen, of course, and other very posh rich folks. Every county has it's regional accent. My accent is not particularly strong, but my sister-in-law's is. When my German friend came she couldn't understand her at all. She said "it's so strange to find that English people don't speak English in the way I've been taught." I had to teach her some Leicestershire-speak. Cobs, sort of buns made of bread, and crusty. Baps, the same but soft and a bit bigger. Mardy, sort of irritable and peevish. Babies are mardy if they won't stop crying and you can't find a reason. My neighbour flummoxed her though. "Look at that ambulance tear-arsing about" Eh?? Rushing about. Not tear as in crying, but tear as in tear a hole in your clothes. There are various versions of English, according to where you live. I can often identify where people come from as soon as they speak. Tweed On Sat, 25 Sep, Tweed wrote: ---------------------<snip>---------------------- >My neighbour flummoxed her though. "Look at that ambulance tear-arsing >about" Eh?? >Rushing about. Not tear as in crying, but tear as in tear a hole in your >clothes. That's perfectly good USAian English, I use it myself when the occasion suits. We use it as tear-assing around of coarse (well it is a little more coarse -- isn't it?). The "Eh??" is much more associated with Canada than the US though. >There are various versions of English, according to where you live. >I can often identify where people come from as soon as they speak. Ya'all ever study with Professor Higgins? Affectionately, O J A charcter invented by the Irishman George Bernard Shaw. But I guess it gives one a good idea of the gulf between classes. Add as much difference (more if you account for dialect vocabulary variations) for regions and you begin to get an idea of life in the UK. I once worked in an office staffed by one each from: Manchester Burton-on-Trent (Staffs) Burton-on-Trent again, but other side of the River Trent Swadlincote (S Derbys) Birmingham Lutterworth (Leics) Wimbledon (posh part of London) Derby (Derbys again but different to Swad.) Stafford (Staffs again but differed from B-o-T) Each of us had some difficulties with all of the rest! BTW the very worst attempted accent in history must be Dick van Dyke doing an East London chimney-sweep in "Mary Poppins". So ludicrous it was nearly hysterical. Universal Purrs Gordon & the TT SignatureFeline family viewable at: http://community.webshots.com/user/exocat > Ya'all ever study with Professor Higgins? > > Affectionately, > O J > I've just gone on wanadoo broadband a couple of months ago, so I'll > see how it pans out. They were Freeserve in a previous life. If or when you get fed up with them (I must admit I wasn't too impressed when they were Freeserve) Free UK operate a competitive Broadband service. If BTel ever get round to upgrading our village exchange I'll head there right away. > Sometimes I have to get a chap over for vermin control here, he's > from Shepshed. He says "I dunna" (I don't) I canna (I can't) > etc. "I willna" (I won't) "Mysen" (myself) Totally different > from the east side. Happy days brought back to life. The neatest word I learned up there was "Nesh", a bril shorthand for "susceptible to the cold". Also used Manchester way I believe. > Yes, almost, thank you. Aya yoursen? Paassin' fayre, thank'ee koindly. > Lutterworth is in Harborough District and Thurmaston is in > Charnwood. I don't think I have a chance. Ne'er mind, eh. > Bah. Carrots. Diets. I was ill last year and lost 3 stone. I can > now eat anything I like. <boast> > I am still within the normal weight for my size and have been eating > very naughty things. I shall however, keep my eye on it. If I > reach 10 stone, it'll be time for the carrots :-( Coincidence, that. Last year I _felt_ ill, always sluggish, so weighed mesen'. It read 16+ stone, so I switched to a near-veggie diet & also lost 3 stone. Tough keeping it off, though: there seems to be an insidious creep if you slip. > > Thurmaston? > > Well, it still calls itself a village, but it has really expanded in > the last few years. Maybe 11,000 people, but I am lucky to live way > out of the village nearly in the fields. Not far from Barkby, which > is still a feudal village with a squire. Huge: my village is in the 100's, our local town only 3,000. Enough for me. It's impossible to go out for a walk without meeting a friend or neighbour & passing the time of day or at least exchanging friendly greetings. Still like the 50's are fondly remembered to be. I can even take Pericles & Snowball out for walks in harnesses & on retractable long leads without too much danger. Purrs Gordon & the TT |
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