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Nomen Nescio - 30 Dec 2005 18:20 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
A guy on misc.invest.stocks posted this. I solved it. But it was somewhat of an SOB. Have fun geniuses!
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Einstein wrote this quiz 100 years ago. He claimed that 98% of the people in the world would not be able to solve it. Give it a try.
FACTS: 1. There are 5 houses in 5 different colors 2. In each house lives a person of different nationality 3. The 5 people each drink different beverages, smoke different cigars, and keep different pets
QUESTION: Who owns the fish?
HINTS: The brit lives in a red house. The Swede keeps dogs as pets. The Dane drinks tea. The green house is on the left of the white house. The green house owner drinks coffee. The person who smokes Pall Mall rears birds. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill. The man living in the house right in the center drinks milk. The Norwegian lives in the first house. The man who smokes Blend lives next to the one who keeps cats. The man who keeps horses lives next to the man who smokes Dunhill. The owner who smokes Blue Master drinks beer. The German smokes Prince. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water.
mlbriggs - 31 Dec 2005 10:36 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > =MjB8 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Did Pall Malls exist 100 years ago? MLB
JohnHancock - 01 Jan 2006 20:06 GMT >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> A guy on misc.invest.stocks posted this. I solved >> it. Yeah sure you did! An idiot like you?
Yowie - 25 Jan 2006 03:40 GMT > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. > > The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water. OK, I know this is an old thread, but I'm going nuts. I know 'technically' how to do these logic puzzles, I've got my grid, but I just can't get this one to come out. Am I missing a clue? (I've got the ones posted above) I've been working on this stupid thing on and off since it was posted, I"ve got my vacation student at work doing it when I don'thave any other work for him to do, and I *neither* of us can get it out.
Help!
Yowie
NMR - 25 Jan 2006 03:49 GMT >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Yowie This is an easy one where was a fish mentioned pets were mentioned but no definition of what a pet is any choice could be correct it is up to your imagination
It is like the this one how do you put an giraffe in a refrigerator then how do you put an elephant in the same refrigerator
if you don;t know how scroll down
Logic questions are easy to solve the simplest answer is always correct
easy open the refrigerator door and put the giraffe in than next part is even easier open the door take out the giraffe put in the elephant
Yowie - 25 Jan 2006 06:06 GMT > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Help! Ok, I solved it, and checked the answers with the old thread, and got a solution that other people got. Yay.
BUT.... in the end, I didn't use the grid.
What I did was make a jigsaw puzzle out of the clues, and fitted it together.
I had bits of paper that looked like:
cats?.......cats? ......blend...... water?.....water?
and:
brit . . . . red
And then I just moved them around until nothing clashed.
It took me all of 3 minutes to do it that way, and I have been working on that stupid grid thing for almost a month, colouring it in carefully, thinking I'm doign well, getting most of it filled in until I discover that 'cats' smokes both 'blend' and 'dunhill' and screaming in fustration.
I'm giving this puzzle the runner up prize for "most time wasted on something I read on RPCA". Bev of course will never lose her crown with "Bubbels", curse that woman!.
Yowie, relieved.
David Stevenson - 26 Jan 2006 12:46 GMT >mlbriggs wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >I don'thave any other work for him to do, and I *neither* of us can get >it out. It is merely a changed version of the one on my website, which I tested by working out myself before putting it there several years ago. You might check that it is really the same.
There are five houses. Each house has its own unique color. All house owners are of different nationalities. They all have different pets. They all drink different drinks. They all smoke different cigarettes. The English man lives in the red house. The Swede has a dog. The Dane drinks tea. The green house is on the left side of the white house. They drink coffee in the green house. The man who smokes Pall Mall has birds. In the yellow house they smoke Dunhill. In the middle house they drink milk. The Norwegian lives in the first house. The man who smokes Blend lives in the house next to the house with cats. In the house next to the house where they have a horse, they smoke Dunhill. The man who smokes Blue Master drinks beer. The German smokes Prince. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. They drink water in the house next to the house where they smoke Blend.
So, who owns the Zebra?
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/zebra.htm
Of course, my site also has the answer!
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 31 Dec 2005 12:42 GMT > QUESTION: Who owns the fish? Spoiler space, in case some folks are still working on it!
Answer: the German.
1st house: yellow, Norwegian, water, Dunhill, cats 2nd house: blue, Dane, tea, Blend, horses 3rd house: red, Brit, milk, Pall Mall, birds 4th house: green, German, coffee, Prince, fish 5th house: white, Swede, beer, Blue Master, dogs
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Nomen Nescio - 01 Jan 2006 07:10 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net
> > QUESTION: Who owns the fish? > >Spoiler space, in case some folks are still working on it! I got the same thing, now I'm not so sure it's the correct solution. Another person got an equally valid answer.
More spoiler space..................................................
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Assume houses are numbered 1 to 5 from left to right.
House 1: Green, Norwegen, Coffee, Bird, Pall Mall House 2: Blue, German, Water, Cat, Prince House 3: White, Sweden, Milk, Dog, Blend House 4: Red, Britain, Beer, Horse, Blue Master House 5: Yellow, Dane, Tea, Fish, Dun Hill - ------------- I think Einstein may have been a little more clever than I assumed. (silly me) I posted these thoughts on misc.invest,stocks.
A few new thoughts on Einstein's quiz:
Einstein' claim that 98% can not solve it implies that 2% can solve it. Therefore: There is a definitive solution. Therefore: "You don't know if anyone has fish" is not a solution.
"Ar Q" has shown that "on the left" results in a second valid solution if it is not taken to mean "immediate left" Therefore: Either "The german" or "The dane" is not a definitive solution and probably not correct although 1 MAY be. Also: There are no commonalities between the 2 solutions (Such as "The guy who drinks coffee has the fish")
A few other thoughts: "The Norwegian lives in the first house." leaves open the numbering of houses from either the left or the right.
"The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water." does not absolutely define a "next door neighbor" and may only hint that one drinks water.
As we've seen "left" does not definitively mean "immediate left".
All other hints create unambuguous relationships.
Conclusion: Nobody here (me included) has proven the correct answer.
Assumption: The correct answer will be absolute and indisputable. - ------------------ I'm looking at this a little more closely, now.
CatNipped - 01 Jan 2006 15:55 GMT Here is a logic grid (Excel spreadsheet) that can help you solve this. It is already marked with the positive statements (a circle in a cell is positive and an x is negative). With this grid it's easy to extrapolate (e.g. if the Dane drinks tea, then all the other cells across the "Dane" row that have x's can be taken down the column of "tea"). Let me know if you need further explanation of how this works.
http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/Puzzle.xls
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > =SYz+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Inge Grotjahn - 31 Dec 2005 13:05 GMT Am 30.12.2005 schrieb Nomen Nescio:
> FACTS: > 1. There are 5 houses in 5 different colors [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > QUESTION: Who owns the fish?
> HINTS: > The brit lives in a red house. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. > The man who smokes Blend has a neighbor who drinks water. I came to the conclusion, that I own the fish:-)) I mean, in case my cats didn't eat it.
Purrs from Germany Inge and the catgang
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Nomen Nescio - 01 Jan 2006 07:40 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: Inge Grotjahn <inge@gwsystems.com>
>I came to the conclusion, that I own the fish:-)) I mean, in case my cats >didn't eat it. > >Purrs from Germany >Inge and the catgang This may be the best answer yet. :)
Just curious......Is "Inge" your full first name or is it a shortened version of a longer name? (If I tell you that my wife was born in Germany, you may guess why I'm asking)
Christine K. - 01 Jan 2006 12:32 GMT > From: Inge Grotjahn <inge@gwsystems.com> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > (If I tell you that my wife was born in Germany, > you may guess why I'm asking) If you check out her website - addy's in her sig - you can answer the question about her name yourself. :p :)
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Nomen Nescio - 01 Jan 2006 07:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: Inge Grotjahn <inge@gwsystems.com>
>I came to the conclusion, that I own the fish:-)) I mean, in case my cats >didn't eat it. > >Purrs from Germany >Inge and the catgang This may be the best answer yet. :)
Just curious......Is "Inge" your full first name or is it a shortened version of a longer name? (If I tell you that my wife was born in Germany, you may guess why I'm asking)
-L. - 01 Jan 2006 18:58 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > QUESTION: Who owns the fish? You can't tell because you never say that they only keep one pet.
-L.
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 01 Jan 2006 19:45 GMT he may not say it but the original riddle does say that
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 01 Jan 2006 19:44 GMT > Einstein wrote this quiz 100 years ago. He claimed that 98% of the > people in the world would not be able to solve it. Give it a try. interesting, i wonder if it's really Einstein's but 98% sounds right on the money, from what i know about testing and problem solving.
that's 1 in 50 or almost 2 standard deviations from the norm in standardized testing, going by the usual alphabet soup of tests.
not genius by any definition but certainly able to solve tricky problems after applying oneself, without necessarily any formal education previously in this regard.
if you want to see what Einstein used, look up tensor calculus
but this relatively value free problem solving is what should be taught to the creationists = used their brains instead of their bibles
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