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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2005I am *SO* PO'd!
I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids found and the dad let them keep him. He looks like a terrier in size and coloring except for the shape of his head - that's pure pit-bull. No only did the neighbor *NOT* get rid of the dog, but he lets him out into the back yard to play with the kids and lets the kids walk him around the neighborhood. He was tied to a tree in their front yard the day after he bit Amy and tried to take after me (thank gawd he *was* tied up). Digger, Erin's dog, is a pure-bred Rottweiler. As some of you may know, Rottweilers are *very* protective. Digger's "person" is my granddaughter, Alexis, and, by proxy, every child he meets (he *LOVES* all children, not just his own). When the d*g attacked Amy, she was screaming and spinning around and the dog was latched to her and would not let go even though he was flying off the ground. When Digger saw this he was very upset and was trying to go through the fence that Ben was trying to climb over. The fence between our backyards is cut around the base of a couple of trees that are on the property line and there are small holes around the boles of the trees where they didn't fit the fence exactly. "Buddy", extremely aggressive if not too smart, stuck his snout through the hole trying to get to Digger. Digger saw this and ran over to try and chase him back into his own yard. The little sh*t bit down onto Digger's snout and would not let go. Ben had to go down there and pry his jaws apart to get Digger lose. Digger has chunks of meat gouged out of his snout (not bad enough for stitches, and he's not whining in pain, but still!) If I didn't have to live next to this family for the rest of my life, I'd call animal control on them in a New York second! Where the *H*LL* are those people's brains keeping what is obviously a law suit waiting to happen!! Hugs, CatNipped > I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's > 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > CatNipped I'd call animal control anyway - they apparently *know* this dog is a biter, but still they keep him around their kid. To hell with what they think of you - you are protecting your own (and theirs too, though they are apparently too stupid to realize it). Call animal control, tell them your neighbor has a problem dog - it has bitten *your* dog (well, your daughter's & granddaughter's dog - but he is residing at *your* home), and you know for a fact that this dog has also bitten the *owners* child, though it probably wasn't reported (makes me wonder if this kid got any medical treatment, and if this dog is UTD on shots - which opens a whole 'nother can-o-worms: if he's *not* UTD on shots, and he bit *your* dog.....)... If your neighbor's don't understand - they don't need a pet - or children for that matter, so feel free to send them to China for forced sterilization :D >> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's >> 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > understand - they don't need a pet - or children for that matter, so feel > free to send them to China for forced sterilization :D Well, Digger *is* up to date on *his* shots, so that shouldn't be a problem, but I think you're right about calling animal control - I just hate to start a feud with a neighbor! :< Hugs, CatNipped > >> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's > >> 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > CatNipped Animal control should have been called the first time. How many people/pets is this aggressive animal going to harm before somebody does something? Sherry How can anyone allow a dog the aggressively attacked a child be allowed to stay at the house. I would call child protective services also you can leave them a anonymous tip CatNipped wrote: > > CatNipped wrote: > >> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > CatNipped Animal control should have been called the first time. How many people/pets is this aggressive animal going to harm before somebody does something? Sherry > How can anyone allow a dog the aggressively attacked a child be allowed to > stay at the house. I would call child protective services also you can > leave them a anonymous tip If the child had received any medical attention, the dog would already have been reported to animal control, as it is a requirement by law. Obviously the parents didn't seek medical attention for the child or the dog would be quarantined as a stray. The parents of the injured girl need to be reported to CPS and the animal needs to be reported to Animal Control, not just for biting the little girl, but for biting Digger, too. If Lori fails to do this, she's guilty of neglect, as well. AFAIC, she's already guilty of neglect for failing to report the initial incident and allowing Digger to get injured. Like Sherry said - what is it going to take for her to get off her a.s and do something? Does a little kid have to be mauled to death? -L. > If the child had received any medical attention, the dog would already > have been reported to animal control, as it is a requirement by law. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Animal Control, not just for biting the little girl, but for biting > Digger, too. Absolutely, yes. And lilke Jill said, concern for the safety of children/other pets must supercede the desire to be on friendly terms with the neighbors. It's not a death sentence or anything for the dog. But they *could* classify him as a "viscious animal" or whatever they call it under Texas law, and the owners would be required by law to be a whole lot more careful about his fencing, etc., and it *would* give them a wake-up call about their liability. Who cares if the dog is a "lawsuit waiting to happen" though. I care that it is a disfigured child waiting to happen. For goodness sakes. It sounds like this dog isn't even rabies-vaccinated! Under OK law if an unvaccinated stray bit a family pet, they'd *both* have to be quarantined for 10 days, whether the pet was vaccinated or not. Sherry If Lori fails to do this, she's guilty of neglect, as > well. AFAIC, she's already guilty of neglect for failing to report the > initial incident and allowing Digger to get injured. Like Sherry said > - what is it going to take for her to get off her a.s and do something? > Does a little kid have to be mauled to death? > > -L. > Animal control should have been called the first time. How many > people/pets is this aggressive animal going to harm before somebody > does something? > > Sherry No sh.t. But remember you're talking about the Idiot Family. -L. CatNipped wrote: > > CatNipped wrote: > >> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > CatNipped Animal control should have been called the first time. How many people/pets is this aggressive animal going to harm before somebody does something? Sherry ================================================== You're right. But there are always extenuating circumstances and life isn't always black and white. These are children who lost their mother to cancer less than a year ago. Their father very suddenly became the sole care-taker of his children - a role that even today a lot of fathers are not ready for and don't know how to manage. I can understand their father not wanting to take their new-found dog away from them - I don't agree with him, and I would have called had it been my child who got bitten - but I *can* understand. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt by not calling and hoping he would handle it, but he didn't. I'm going to talk to him today and if he doesn't call animal control then I will. I *WON'T* call CPS as others have suggested I do. I know him enough to know that he loves his children and that they are happy children. He may be guilty of bad judgement in this case, but he and those children don't need that kind of stress in their lives so soon after losing a wife and mother. Hugs, CatNipped > ================================================== > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > child who got bitten - but I *can* understand. I was giving him the benefit > of the doubt by not calling and hoping he would handle it, but he didn't. Even more reason for you to intervene. You wouldn't let them play in the street just because you felt sorry for them, and this is really no different. From what you have said, I think it is just a matter of time before one of these kids gets bitten on the face, or worse. Those kids *do* need a dog (or better yet, a cat :-) --but an appropriate one for children. Sherry > You're right. But there are always extenuating circumstances and life isn't > always black and white. These are children who lost their mother to cancer [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from them - I don't agree with him, and I would have called had it been my > child who got bitten But yet you won't intervene when this *other child* gets bitten? You mave no concern for that child's welfare at all, you f.cking poser. You make me sick. Then you have the gall to say something to be because I didn't "ooh and awwww" over your whining about it on a f.cking newsgroup. Would you have called CPS if you saw the girl being beaten or playing with a loaded gun? Probably not. Afterall the poor little girl lost her mother earlier this year... Take some f.cking responsibility, for one time in your life. - but I *can* understand. I was giving him the benefit > of the doubt by not calling and hoping he would handle it, but he didn't. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > need that kind of stress in their lives so soon after losing a wife and > mother. So you leave those kids in a situation with a parent who obviously doesn't have enough sense to protect them. Unbelievable. But then again, you don't have enough sense to protect your own animals, so I guess I'm not all that surprised... When those kids get seriously hurt or worse, killed, you can blame yourself, instead of using your usual refrain of "sh.t happens". Typical Lori. No sense of responsibility. -L. >>> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's >>> 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >CatNipped You didn't start it -- they did. -- Bev A. >>>> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's >>>> 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > -- Bev A. Agreed. I wouldn't worry at this point about what they neighbors think. They've brought this on themselves. You only have to live next door, you don't have be kissing cousins. Jill > >> I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's > >> 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > CatNipped Aha, can I relate! Chester, the cat next door, I haven't seen, but I've been working, so I don't know if Animal Control has been by or not. I'm hoping he was rescued at a time I wasn't home to see it. kili >Well, Digger *is* up to date on *his* shots, so that shouldn't be a >problem, but I think you're right about calling animal control - I just hate >to start a feud with a neighbor! :< I know what you mean - but I'm with the rest who have already responded. You won't be starting anything, just protecting your own family (both two and four legged).  SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot with loving memories of Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html Catnipped, It would seem that the neighbor has already started a feud with you, albeit unintentionally. I second the suggestions to call child services as well. This dog is a time bomb. -Caroline S. [[Well, Digger *is* up to date on *his* shots, so that shouldn't be a problem, but I think you're right about calling animal control - I just hate to start a feud with a neighbor! :< ]] I can understand not wanting to start a feud with a neighbor. If I were in your shoes, that would certainly be on my mind, as well. On the other hand... what if this dog seriously hurts one of the OTHER kids in the neighborhood? Or kills someone's pet if it wanders into his yard or if he encounters it while he's taken for a walk? He has proven that he's aggressive towards children and animals already. I feel genuinely sorry for this ex-stray dog that the neighbors took in, as I suspect if he's got temperament problems he'd probably be put down by animal control. :o( But if he mauls another child, or the neighbors' own little girl again, or kills a pet that lives in the neighborhood... will you end up beating yourself up mentally over not having called animal control when you had the chance? I wish there was some way to get a happy ending out of all this. I think the closest we can approach to that is an ending where there are no additional injuries to humans or pets. :o( I'm sorry that you and your neighborhood are going through this. Prayers and purrs on the way for this to be resolved peaceably. Donna > [[Well, Digger *is* up to date on *his* shots, so that shouldn't be a > problem, but I think you're right about calling animal control - I just [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Donna I did call animal control this morning. Hugs, CatNipped > I did call animal control this morning. Good move, Lori. It was a difficult position in which to find yourself, and you did the right thing. Keep us posted. >> I did call animal control this morning. > > Good move, Lori. It was a difficult position in which to find > yourself, and you did the right thing. Keep us posted. I just posted an update - animal control is here as I type. Hugs, CatNipped > I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's 5-year-old, > Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids found and the dad let [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > CatNipped YOU are responsible. If you recall, you posted to me: "I've been ignoring your posts, and will continue to do so after this. But I just wanted to say that it's pretty callous of you to completely ignore the plight of this 5-year-old" Yet YOU didn't lift one f.cking finger to help that little girl, and instead chose to use your energy to complain on a newsgroup to garner attention. And now, because of your gross negligence by NOT reporting an *obviously* dangerous dog to the police and an *obviously* neglectful father to CPS, you have allowed that child - and others, including YOUR OWN GRANDCHILDREN - to continue to be at risk, and now are completely and solely responsible for Digger's injury. What a f.cking hypocrite. I wonder if Houston has criminal penalties for failure to report things like child endangerment and dog bites? Your negligence in failing to make these reports is posted and archived for all the world to see... And congratualtions. You just proved to the world ONCE AGAIN, that your family does not deserve to own animals. So are you going to continue to bitch and moan on this newsgroup about this dangerous animal and it's neglectful new owner or are you going to do *what you should have already done* and prevent another tragedy? Get off your a.s, Lori, and call animal control NOW. -L. > I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's > 5-year-old, Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > CatNipped Poor Digger :-( If i were in your position I'd ask them to get rid of the dog, and tell them you _will_ call animal control if there are any more incidents. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Animal control is parked outside the neighbor's house now - I'm really surprised they're here after what they told me on the phone this morning. They said that *I* couldn't report the bite to the child. To report a "dog-bites-human" incident you have to either be the one bitten, the parent of the one bitten, or a doctor reporting a dog bit injury. They said they *could* take an incident report on the dog biting my daughter's dog and make a note of the dog having bitten a child, but I didn't think a "dog-bites-dog" incident would be responded to - and definitely not this quickly. Anyway, I don't think the neighbors are home. The officer is sitting in his truck in front of the house with the truck's door open. I don't know if he's waiting or just writing up his report. Hugs, CatNipped >I told you guys about the d*g next door that bit the neighbor's 5-year-old, >Amy. Well, it turned out to be a stray that the kids found and the dad let [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > CatNipped They left a notice on the neighbor's door. Hugs, CatNipped > Animal control is parked outside the neighbor's house now - I'm really > surprised they're here after what they told me on the phone this morning. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> >> CatNipped > They left a notice on the neighbor's door. Well, do you think the neighbors will know it was you who called? >> They left a notice on the neighbor's door. > > Well, do you think the neighbors will know it was you who called? Yes, of course they will - I'm sure the report will list "complainant" and the fact that they're coming out about their dog biting another dog. I'll just have to accept the consequences - neighbors can make your life unbearable if they want to (calling the HAA for every little nit, among other things) - but I really didn't have a choice in good conscience. Hugs, CatNipped >>> They left a notice on the neighbor's door. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CatNipped Perhaps the "note" will wake them up to the fact that biting dogs need serious attention. I reported a neighbor's out of control female many years ago, She was running loose with about 12 males after her. At least it got the poor female spayed. At that time little kids couldn't play outside for fear of the dog pack. Best wishes for a proper outcome. MLB >>> They left a notice on the neighbor's door. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CatNipped I don't think the notice will give any information, except that they need to call AC within the next 24 hours in regaurds to a vicious dog report, no specifics as to what incident. How do they know that while the dog was tied out front, it didn't just lunge at you, but several other passers-by? I get this from watching all the animal cops & precinct shows on Animal Planet. >>> They left a notice on the neighbor's door. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unbearable if they want to (calling the HAA for every little nit, among > other things) - but I really didn't have a choice in good conscience. The neighbor probably didn't have the heart to take the dog away from the children. Sadly that's a poor excuse when the animal cannot be trusted. They can always go to the shelter and adopt a safe well mannered dog that the kids will enjoy far more. You really were put in an impossible situation. Don't want to upset anyone of course, but the whole situation was a horror story waiting to happen. Jo >>>> They left a notice on the neighbor's door. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jo Yeah, this is the guy who gave us a mattress and box springs and clothes for the children when our Katrina evacuees first came to live with us. He is very nice, I just don't think he is over the death of his wife enough to deal with painful things like taking a d*g away from his kids yet. They're home now and I'm sure he saw the notice from animal control on their door - I feel horribly guilty, but I know it was the right thing to do since the d*g is an obviously aggressive and dangerous animal. I just feel really, *REALLY* sh*tty about having to be the one to do it. Hugs, CatNipped > They left a notice on the neighbor's door. > > Hugs, > > CatNipped Please keep us updated as to what's up, will you? kili .... > They said that *I* couldn't report the bite to the child. To report a > "dog-bites-human" incident you have to either be the one bitten, the > parent of the one bitten, or a doctor reporting a dog bit injury. ... ...> CatNipped You can report that the dog made an agressive move toward you and the only thing that stopped it was that it was tied up. This means that it was tied up in an area where it would also be accessible to a child to approach it. Or, it could get loose from the rope or chain that held it and go after somebody or a pet. Somebody may have already reported that it was agressive and tied up in an accessible area. You should not be the only one in the neighborhood who is concerned about that dog. What about the people on the other side of the yard with the dog? Are they aware that a vicious dog is just on the other side of the fence? I know that rabies is a concern here in south Texas. I don't know about Houston, but I believe that the law is that a dog that bites somebody must be quarantened and observed for rabies. Granted, it is not all that likely that rabies is the problem, but I think the dog has to be under observation, anyway. The result of the observation of the dog would be a factor in whether the little girl will have to have the rabies prevention treatment. You would think that it would not matter who reports the bite. Especially if a witness reports it. It would have to be investigated. The report could be verified by the child's injuries. Good luck with these neighbors. You'll need it. Annie > .... >> They said that *I* couldn't report the bite to the child. To report a [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Good luck with these neighbors. You'll need it. > Annie I think that probably the "notes" they made about the dog having bitten the child was a factor in how quickly they got out here (the "rules" being observed in not taking the report on the dog-bites-human, but that info still taken into account and as seriously as if a report had been able to have been made). I don't think they would have been here within a few hours if it had been "only" a dog-bites-dog incident (which I would think would be a fairly common occurrence). I still feel sh*tty about the whole thing though. Hugs, CatNipped |
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