>> The firmer mattress made no difference, unfortunately, I could still
>> hardly get out of bed for back pain. It wears off after a few hours,
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> from beef bones). Pycnogenol (from pine bark, not grape seeds) and MSM
> taken along with the glucosamine is also very helpful.
I've thought about taking it - but that's as far as it's got ;-) My aunt &
uncle have been taking it for some years and are very well as regards joint
pain and such, they are both 80. 3 younger friends say they got no benefit
from it.
> These supplements as good as they are won't do the whole trick, though. If
> you're really serious about alleviating your back pain there is no better
> gift you can give yourself than a complete series of structural
> realignment sessions.
Is it a chiropractor that does that?
It has been really bad since I had my examination at the hospital last week,
I might wait to see if it settles down. The whole of my abdomen was pressed
and pummelled so hard for what seemed like hours (but was probably only two
minutes) that I was surprised that the legs of the examination table didn't
give way and deposit me on the floor.
Everything inside starting hurting again after that, so I wouldn't be
surprised if my back is objecting too.
> I went through that in 1996 & 97 and got to the point where walking felt
> so good I didn't want to stop. However since that time several new
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> I'm sending you a list of practitioners in England. Often they will work
> at a reduced rate for low-income people.
Thanks very much, Pat.
>Their treatment might also be covered
> by your insurance.
It won't be. We don't have the same type of health insurance here. It
covers primary care and hospital treatment when your doctor has referred you
on. Anything "alternative" has to be paid for privately.
Tweed
CatNipped - 29 Dec 2005 18:02 GMT
>>> The firmer mattress made no difference, unfortunately, I could still
>>> hardly get out of bed for back pain. It wears off after a few hours,
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> Tweed
Your abdominal muscles are what support your lower back (people with lower
back pain are prescribed "crunches" as physical therapy). So if they made
your stomach sore during the examination you might not be using those
muscles fully yet and that would cause the pain in your back.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Cathi - 29 Dec 2005 22:37 GMT
(on chiropractors):
> >Their treatment might also be covered
>> by your insurance.
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>
>Tweed
It might be worth enquiring at your GP, Tweed. I saw a chiro in two
separate spells, referred by my GP, and didn't have to pay a bean.
Granted I only got short sessions (apart from initial consultation), but
they really did the trick. Prior to treatment if my back popped "out",
I'd end up walking double in a very short space of time. After
treatment, I never experienced pain on such a scale again. I certainly
had some painful days, but nothing like I did before I saw him.

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Pat - 31 Dec 2005 02:58 GMT
>> a complete series of structural realignment sessions.
>
> Is it a chiropractor that does that?
No, chiropractic treatment must usually be repeated. This is rearranging the
connective tissue to make permenant changes in your structure, and the
benefits show in improved function.
> >Their treatment might also be covered
>> by your insurance.
> Anything "alternative" has to be paid for privately.
Some of them will reduce fees for low-income folks. But even if they don't,
it's well worth the cost.
Did you get the list I sent?
Christina Websell - 31 Dec 2005 13:47 GMT
>>> a complete series of structural realignment sessions.
>>
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>
> Did you get the list I sent?
No, not yet. Did you send it in the mail? If so it will take about a week
to get here maybe more because of the holidays.
Tweed
Pat - 31 Dec 2005 16:25 GMT
>> Did you get the list I sent?
> No, not yet. Did you send it in the mail? If so it will take about a
> week to get here maybe more because of the holidays.
No, I sent it by email to tinawebsell (at) wanadoo.co.uk (that was just a
guess at your eddress, but the message did not bounce so I assumed it was
ccorrect.
Christina Websell - 01 Jan 2006 20:22 GMT
>>> Did you get the list I sent?
>
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> guess at your eddress, but the message did not bounce so I assumed it was
> ccorrect.
I have it now, but they are all so far away from me that it would take me a
day to go there. I've used the information, though, to search for similar
therapists and there is one just 10 miles away. Should my pains not settle
down soon I'll most likely be making an appointment.
It's very kind of you to take the trouble to mail this info to me. Thank
you so much, Pat.
Tweed
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jan 2006 21:39 GMT
>>> a complete series of structural realignment sessions.
>>
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> rearranging the connective tissue to make permenant changes in your
> structure, and the benefits show in improved function.
It sounds like you're talking about rolfing.
http://www.rolf.org/
I am looking into this, too, for some of my own issues.

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Pat - 05 Jan 2006 03:00 GMT
>> No, chiropractic treatment must usually be repeated. This is
>> rearranging the connective tissue to make permenant changes in your
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>
> I am looking into this, too, for some of my own issues.
I was treated on by rolfers and by others who do similar work. It was the
best thing I've ever done for myself - right up there with the Chinese herbs
for migraine relief.