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Takayuki - 13 Dec 2005 23:21 GMT
I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
everyone was so nice in sending purrs for the last treatment and
certainly deserve to know what the result was!

Betty's cancer was growing around the time of the treatment last
month, but a couple of weeks afterwards, it stopped, then seemed to
physically flatten a bit.

Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the
tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He thinks
that we're learning a lot about what works and doesn't work in Betty's
case, and that we should see how she progresses with the experimental
Gemzar treatment she's receiving.  His hope (and this sounds like a
wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
make surgical removal possible.

Betty was at the oncology center all day getting her second dose, and
a third dose is scheduled for next month.  Right now, she's standing
in her usual "I want attention" pose on her hind legs with one paw on
my knee, and the other on my arm.

So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
something!
CatNipped - 13 Dec 2005 23:31 GMT
Renewed, INCREASED IN VOLUME purrs for Betty's continued improvement.  I'm
*SO* glad she's made some positive progress.

And yes, Tak, I for one would like to keep updated on Betty's progress if
you don't mind posting about it.  Not only because you and Betty mean so
much to me, but also for the information that I (heaven forbid) might need
in the future.

Tell me, does the treatment make her as ill as cancer treatments do human
patients?  How does she handling the treatment itself?

Hugs,

CatNipped

> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
Takayuki - 13 Dec 2005 23:48 GMT
>Renewed, INCREASED IN VOLUME purrs for Betty's continued improvement.  I'm
>*SO* glad she's made some positive progress.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Tell me, does the treatment make her as ill as cancer treatments do human
>patients?  How does she handling the treatment itself?

Thank you for the purrs, Catnipped!  None of the treatments have had a
really adverse effect on her.  For a couple of weeks after her other
chemotherapy drug, Carboplatin, she threw up about once every day or
so, but was otherwise fine.  She played and cuddled and ate like she
always did, except that I'd step in vomit more frequently than usual.
:)  She's lost about half a pound of weight, not very noticible, but
she was slightly chubby before, and now looks a bit more sleek and
athletic.

The Gemzar doesn't seem to cause noticible side effects either.  She
threw up three times during the four weeks since that treatment, which
is maybe just a slight increase.
Howard C. Berkowitz - 16 Dec 2005 04:08 GMT
> >Renewed, INCREASED IN VOLUME purrs for Betty's continued improvement.  I'm
> >*SO* glad she's made some positive progress.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> she was slightly chubby before, and now looks a bit more sleek and
> athletic.

In general, cats take chemotherapy better than people. Carboplatin is
less toxic in humans than cisplatin; I'd think long and hard before
taking the latter.  I've been assured by veterinary oncologists that
platinum compounds just don't upset cats as much -- perhaps it's all
the hairball experience.

> The Gemzar doesn't seem to cause noticible side effects either.  She
> threw up three times during the four weeks since that treatment, which
> is maybe just a slight increase.

Gemzar is relatively nontoxic in people. I'm really encouraged, Tak, as
the combination of platinum compounds and Gemzar in people is being
tried in more and more situations, where previously NOTHING worked.
Takayuki - 17 Dec 2005 04:46 GMT
>In general, cats take chemotherapy better than people. Carboplatin is
>less toxic in humans than cisplatin; I'd think long and hard before
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>the combination of platinum compounds and Gemzar in people is being
>tried in more and more situations, where previously NOTHING worked.

Betty isn't currently on combination therapy, but just on Gemzar, plus
her daily Piroxicam.  It seems to me that so far the treatments and
the cancer have battled to a standstill, so I'm curious to see what
else Betty's oncologists have up their sleeve.  I don't know much
about cancer, but you wouldn't think that such a slow growth could be
targeted well with chemo.  Maybe we'll eventually need to bring in a
veterinary orthopedic surgeon.
Cheryl - 13 Dec 2005 23:52 GMT
> Tell me, does the treatment make her as ill as cancer treatments
> do human patients?  How does she handling the treatment itself?

Back when Shadow was being treated for IBD, which can turn into
lymphoma, I did a lot of reading about chemotherapy for cats and the
literature all says that cats tolarate chemotherapy very well, with
little side-effects.

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Takayuki - 14 Dec 2005 02:29 GMT
>Back when Shadow was being treated for IBD, which can turn into
>lymphoma, I did a lot of reading about chemotherapy for cats and the
>literature all says that cats tolarate chemotherapy very well, with
>little side-effects.

When Betty started chemotherapy, I was asking a senior tech about
Betty, and at one point she told me that when it comes to handling
chemotherapy, cats are "from another planet".  I then asked her which
planet, so she probably thinks I'm a weirdo. ;)
Dan M - 13 Dec 2005 23:40 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
> everyone was so nice in sending purrs for the last treatment and
> certainly deserve to know what the result was!

Please, please keep us posted on how Betty's doing! We're all
very concerned about Betty and how she's getting along. Especially when
the news sounds positive - there have been enough Rainbow Bridge
announcements recently here and in RPCC that I NEED to hear positive news
when it's available!

> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the tumor
> has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He thinks that we're
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to make
> surgical removal possible.

We're going to crank up the purr volume and frequency, and get even more
serious on the human-side meditations as well. It would be SO WONDERFUL if
they were able to shrink that bugger and remove it surgically.

Dan
Enfilade - 13 Dec 2005 23:42 GMT
> > I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> > know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
> > everyone was so nice in sending purrs for the last treatment and
> > certainly deserve to know what the result was!

I like to know how Betty is doing and I will keep my four purring for
her!

I also like your stories like the one with "betty the rapper."  It's
nice to see her being /a cat/ as well as a patient.

--Fil
Takayuki - 14 Dec 2005 02:34 GMT
>I like to know how Betty is doing and I will keep my four purring for
>her!
>
>I also like your stories like the one with "betty the rapper."  It's
>nice to see her being /a cat/ as well as a patient.

"Keep it real" - LOL.  I'm glad that she did turn out to be /a cat/,
and not a rapper, or else I would have had to buy her a more elaborate
collar tag for her Christmas present.
Takayuki - 14 Dec 2005 02:31 GMT
>Please, please keep us posted on how Betty's doing! We're all
>very concerned about Betty and how she's getting along. Especially when
>the news sounds positive - there have been enough Rainbow Bridge
>announcements recently here and in RPCC that I NEED to hear positive news
>when it's available!

It's like reading the newspaper - good news seems to be in short
supply sometimes.  But every day we can spend with little furries is
actually good news. :)
Victor Martinez - 13 Dec 2005 23:44 GMT
> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the
> tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He thinks

That sounds great!

> Gemzar treatment she's receiving.  His hope (and this sounds like a
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.

Well, then that's what we'll be purring for!

> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

We'll keep at it!!!

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Cheryl - 13 Dec 2005 23:49 GMT
> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that
> the tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> able to shrink the tumor enough to make surgical removal
> possible.

Tak, this is most impressive! Kudos to you for aggressively treating
her and hoping you're adding years to her life!

More purrs forthcoming!!

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jmcquown - 13 Dec 2005 23:53 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

Wooo hooo!  Go, Betty!  She's a feisty one.  Persia is sending renewed,
extra strong holiday season purrs for Betty and for you.

Jill
Charleen Welton - 13 Dec 2005 23:55 GMT
>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

Good news Tak.  We would like to have had the vet tell you that the cancer
was gone, just disappeared, but, in place of that we will be happy for Betty
and you for this wonderful piece of information.
May the visit next month bring even better news!!!  Never underestimate the
power of the purr and the power of the love that emanates from this group.
Charleen
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Karen - 14 Dec 2005 00:09 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

That's GREAT Tak!! At the very least it is extending her quality life
time. GO BETTY!!!!!
Gennie - 14 Dec 2005 00:50 GMT
So happy to see that Betty's treatment is giving a visibly good result
thus far!

Thanks for the update! We'll keep the purrs coming too!

Genne and Marietta
mlbriggs - 14 Dec 2005 01:14 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I know
> that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also, everyone
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did something!

We shall continue purring and pray that Betty makes history.  MLB
Irulan - 14 Dec 2005 01:23 GMT
My god, Tak, that's a miracle! We are continuously purring and praying that
Betty does have a miracle.
Lily & her mama

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>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
Kreisleriana - 14 Dec 2005 01:28 GMT
>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
>know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
>something!

Revving up and rumbling away.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

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Shiral - 14 Dec 2005 01:48 GMT
PPPPPPRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

That's good news, Tak! I hope your vet is right about shrinking that
tumor enough to remove it surgically. Give Betty scritches from me and
tell her she's a fantastically brave kitty.  =o)

Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Dec 2005 02:30 GMT
Wow, that is really great news!!! Maybe it's a wild hope, but so far,
these results are better than anything else up to now. Nothing else has
actually made the tumor shrink, has it?

I'm so glad to hear it. Continued purrs for her recovery.

Joyce

> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
> everyone was so nice in sending purrs for the last treatment and
> certainly deserve to know what the result was!

> Betty's cancer was growing around the time of the treatment last
> month, but a couple of weeks afterwards, it stopped, then seemed to
> physically flatten a bit.

> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the
> tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He thinks
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.

> Betty was at the oncology center all day getting her second dose, and
> a third dose is scheduled for next month.  Right now, she's standing
> in her usual "I want attention" pose on her hind legs with one paw on
> my knee, and the other on my arm.

> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

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Annie Wxill - 14 Dec 2005 02:37 GMT
>...> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
Tak,
What do you mean "minor" TED visits?  This is major.
Thanks for the update and sharing the hopeful news.
We'll keep the purrs and prayers going for that special spunky little cat.
Annie
Sam Nash - 14 Dec 2005 03:26 GMT
And the purrs will continue for Betty's continued improvement!
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Marina - 14 Dec 2005 03:40 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.

Wonderful news, Tak! Of course you must keep us updated on Betty's
progress. We'll be purring that the tumour does shrink enough for the
surgery.

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ann791 - 14 Dec 2005 03:56 GMT
Womderful news about Betty. Please keep us posted. More purrs on the way.
Ann

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>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
badwilson - 14 Dec 2005 04:39 GMT
Wow, that sounds like really good news!  At least there's some hope.
I will continue to send purrs and purrs and purrs.
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> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
Susan M - 14 Dec 2005 05:06 GMT
> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the
> tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.  He thinks
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.

Thank you for the update Tak.  It's good to hear about Betty's improvement
and we'll keep purring for her tumour to continue to shrink.  What a
wonderful possibility that she may be able to have it surgically removed.

It sounds like she's feeling okay today after her treatment too if she's
standing on her hind legs and begging for attention!  She's a real trooper
and a very special cat.

Susan M
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Jeanette - 14 Dec 2005 09:06 GMT
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

Something certainly worked, I know that things have looked very dark for
Betty in the past, but this seems more hopeful. You are a wonderful slave to
her.

Jeanette
Exocat - 14 Dec 2005 09:39 GMT
> Betty's oncologist measured the growth today, and he says that the
> tumor has retreated about a centimeter since last time.

Megapurrs from us lot that the improvement continues. Please keep the
bulletins & anecdotes coming.

Gordon & the FF
Lesley - 14 Dec 2005 10:01 GMT
.  His hope (and this sounds like a
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.

Purring extra hard for this to happen

Lesley

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Adrian - 14 Dec 2005 10:34 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

Revving up the purr motors, hoping the treatment continues to be effective.
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Helen Miles - 14 Dec 2005 12:29 GMT
 He thinks
> that we're learning a lot about what works and doesn't work in Betty's
> case, and that we should see how she progresses with the experimental
> Gemzar treatment she's receiving.  His hope (and this sounds like a
> wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the tumor enough to
> make surgical removal possible.////

Oh my goodness - that would be so wonderful!

Many purrs and prayers for continuing success with the treatment.

Helen M
SuzQ - 14 Dec 2005 12:31 GMT
Neighboring purrs that it does work.
Suz&Spicey
Jane - 14 Dec 2005 12:48 GMT
>So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
>something!

I'm so glad!!!  This is WONDERFUL news!  Thanks for letting us know.
Hugs,

Jane
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JBHajos - 14 Dec 2005 14:23 GMT
>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
>know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
>everyone was so nice in sending purrs for the last treatment and
>certainly deserve to know what the result was!

  Well, I can't stand soap operas but sure can relate to news of our
beloved Betty.  Granted I can't open your posts without first taking a
*deep* breath, crossing fingers, saying a little prayer.  Whew!!  With
this one, a smiling sigh of relief.   Can't say how wonderful it is to
know Betty is making progress and am sending more purrs and good
wishes for her eventual cure.  She's a good little trouper.  

  Jeanne
Monique Y. Mudama - 14 Dec 2005 19:01 GMT
> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but
> I know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> sounds like a wild hope to me) is that they'll be able to shrink the
> tumor enough to make surgical removal possible.

Well, I don't think he would say anything like that if he didn't think
it could happen.  Maybe it will =)

> Betty was at the oncology center all day getting her second dose,
> and a third dose is scheduled for next month.  Right now, she's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!

I'm glad Betty is doing better than expected, and that her treatments
don't get her down too badly.

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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 14 Dec 2005 19:16 GMT
>I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
>know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
>something!

That is great news, Tak.  I hope the experimental treatment works and
the tumor can be removed.  That would be wonderful!

Purring for your both,

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polonca12000 - 15 Dec 2005 11:04 GMT
I'm so very happy to hear the growth has shrunk so much, this is
wonderful news!
We continue to purr and send very best wishes for Betty's growth to
shrink enough to be operated,
Polonca and Soncek

> I wouldn't normally bug everyone with news of minor TED visits, but I
> know that some of you follow the group like a soap opera. ;)  Also,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> So thank you everyone for all your purrs!  They definitely did
> something!
 
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