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Fritzie the matchmaker (long)

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Singh - 22 Sep 2004 04:27 GMT
I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
a sordid upbringing. Through all this, my Fritzie, who left to enter the
Court of our God/dess last December, stood by me. He was fiercely loyal,
perhaps nowhere more so than in evaluating the men I chose to date.

Sal was a hardcore Trekkie who lived for conventions, never bothered to
find a job and sponged off his father for money to go see whatever
sci-fi person came to town. He's come to my apartment-a nasty little
efficiency with barely room to breathe, but dirt cheap-and lounge around
all day watching videos. Fritzie would climb to a high space and
divebomb him, right in his paunchy gut. For hours; and hours; and more
hours. No matter how Sal tried to place himself, he could not escape
Fritzie, who thought he was a toy, not a sentient being to respect.
David, a friend of Sal's, couldn't decide between me and a nasty woman
who was excellent at verbal emasculation. Fritzie swore at him and
slapped his hand away every time DAvid tried to pet him. Jeff, my
experiment in cohabitation that went horribly wrong, got hissed at
regularly. Fritzie would walk into the computer room casually, sit next
to Jeff, and hurl obscenities at him that would peel the wallpaper.
These three relationships were doomed to fail.

Mitch, a fellow from Toronto, did not earn trampolining, nor swats, nor
cusswords. In fact, I first thought Fritzie accepted him until I saw
that when he visited, Fritzie thoroughly ignored him. Never bothered to
come for a petting or a treat the way he did when my buddies "Aunt
Sandy" and "Uncle Randy" came by. always sat by me, never Mitch. I came
to realize that Fritzie had total contempt for him, and I learned why:
Mitch gave off way bad vibes. I learned that he was a white supremacist
involved with the "Christian Identity" movement and that he believed
that the Holocaust was a bunch of horsesh*t and propaganda set up by the
US government. My father was a political prisoner under Hitler and had
the tattoo, and all the baggage that only the Nazis could give. I broke
it off so that I wouldn't get arrested for assault & battery on my next
visit.

When I met Louie he came up to my place after about ten days, and met
Fritzie for the first time. Without a word he went to the bag of food
and fed him. Fritzie was all over him afterward, and even slept with him
while we watched the idiot box. After another ten days Louie proposed.
We'll celebrate our second anniversary next month.

As a postscript: our third date was to a party hosted by David, and Sal
was there as well. It was announced that Louie would be coming with a
date, and I'd be the date; and when the shock wore off and we arrived,
the first question from Sal was, "Does she still have that cat?" "You
mean Fritzie?" Louie asked innocently, having heard long ago of the
trampolining. Sal walked away, white as a sheet, and you could swear he
was shivering.

Blessed be,

Baha
Kreisleriana - 22 Sep 2004 04:16 GMT
>I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
>lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>find a job and sponged off his father for money to go see whatever
>sci-fi person came to town.

(snip)

That's why william Shatner said "Move out of your parents' basements!
Get a life!"   all those years ago . . . .;)

Thank goodness for that mysterious radar they have.;)

Theresa
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Singh - 22 Sep 2004 04:56 GMT
Amen!!!

Odd thing was that Fritzie LIKED old Trek. When the music came on he'd hop on
the bed with me and get his pettings while I watched. But at least I had a
job and my own place.

Blessed be Shatner!!!

Baha

> >I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
> >lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
O J - 22 Sep 2004 05:13 GMT
On Tue, 21 Sep, Baha wrote:

>I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
>lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
>a sordid upbringing. Through all this, my Fritzie, who left to enter the
>Court of our God/dess last December, stood by me. He was fiercely loyal,
>perhaps nowhere more so than in evaluating the men I chose to date.
---------------------<snip>----------------------

I know I've mentioned it before, but that's one of the first things
that brought Lynda and me closer.  It truly was love at first sight,
but one likes to look before one leaps.  When we went to visit her
maternal grandmother, Elsie, for the first time was when I met the
oft-mentioned Puss Puss.

I was assured by both Lynda and Elsie that I would see neither hide
nor hair of said cat.  Nevertheless, at my insistence, we went into
the basement to greet Puss Puss.  To Lynda's surprise and delight Puss
Puss was lying in her accustomed spot and graciously accepted some
chin rubs and ear skritches.

We've been together for thirty-five wonderful years, so I guess that
the Puss Puss' first impression that I was OK for a hoomin or at least
as a mate for Lynda was correct.  Thank you sweet cat wherever you
are.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:20 GMT
I've done that a couple times. I went over to my friend John's house, couple
years ago. Cat laying on the kitchen counter. I walked up and said hi. We
did the sniff routine, and I scratched the cat. John came in and did a
doubletake. Had to have his wife Kathy come in and see it. Never seen anyone
walk up and scratch that cat. Took them a couple months to get near it.

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I know I've mentioned it before, but that's one of the first things
that brought Lynda and me closer.  It truly was love at first sight,
but one likes to look before one leaps.  When we went to visit her
maternal grandmother, Elsie, for the first time was when I met the
oft-mentioned Puss Puss.

I was assured by both Lynda and Elsie that I would see neither hide
nor hair of said cat.  Nevertheless, at my insistence, we went into
the basement to greet Puss Puss.  To Lynda's surprise and delight Puss
Puss was lying in her accustomed spot and graciously accepted some
chin rubs and ear skritches.

We've been together for thirty-five wonderful years, so I guess that
the Puss Puss' first impression that I was OK for a hoomin or at least
as a mate for Lynda was correct.  Thank you sweet cat wherever you
are.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
CatNipped - 22 Sep 2004 14:39 GMT
>I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
> lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
> a sordid upbringing. Through all this, my Fritzie, who left to enter the
> Court of our God/dess last December, stood by me. He was fiercely loyal,
> perhaps nowhere more so than in evaluating the men I chose to date.

I learned a long time ago to trust my cat's judgement in men over my own.
Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic my
first time around.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 22 Sep 2004 18:13 GMT
> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic my
> first time around.
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped

No.  No, no, NO.  I can't believe it.  I did it too.
Now I'm starting to be very afraid.  It's too much of a coincidence.
It might be that I'm your "doppelganger"  Apparently somewhere in the world
we all have one.
<scared>
Too spooky for me.
<hides>
Eeeek.

Tweed
CatNipped - 22 Sep 2004 18:38 GMT
>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic
>> my first time around.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Tweed

Wow, <do, do, do, do - Twilight Zone music hear in background>!  I wrote my
story, about this first marriage, as "A Letter to Young Women in Trouble" at
http://www.gcmensa.org/ALetter.asp.  If you get a chance to read it let me
know if there are any other similarities.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Kreisleriana - 22 Sep 2004 19:17 GMT
>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic my
>> first time around.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Now I'm starting to be very afraid.  It's too much of a coincidence.
>It might be that I'm your "doppelganger"  

     Still ist die Nacht, es ruhen die Gassen,
     In diesem Hause wohnte mein Schatz;
     Sie hat schon längst die Stadt verlassen,
     Doch steht noch das Haus auf demselben Platz.
   
     Da steht auch ein Mensch und starrt in die Höhe
     Und ringt die Hände vor Schmerzensgewalt;
     Mir graust es, wenn ich sein Antlitz sehe -
     Der Mond zeigt mir meine eigne Gestalt.
   
     Du Doppelgänger, du bleicher Geselle!
     Was äffst du nach mein Liebesleid,
     Das mich gequält auf dieser Stelle
     So manche Nacht, in alter Zeit?
        "Der Doppelgänger," Heinrich Heine ;)

Theresa
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Christina Websell - 22 Sep 2004 19:59 GMT
>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic
>>> my
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Sounds lovely, I'll get my German friend on to it right away ;-)

Tweed
Kreisleriana - 22 Sep 2004 20:15 GMT
>>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic
>>>> my
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>>      So manche Nacht, in alter Zeit?
>> "Der Doppelgänger," Heinrich Heine ;)

>Sounds lovely, I'll get my German friend on to it right away ;-)
>
>Tweed

No need; here you go:

The night is still; the streets grow quiet,
In this house, my love would appear;
She's long since gone away from this town
But this house where she lived still remains here.

A man stands here too, staring up into space
And wrings his hands with the force of his pain;
It chills me, when I behold his pale face
For the moon shows me my own features!

My double spirit, you pale one,
Why do you mock my broken heart,
That tortured me here, here in this place
So many nights, in another time?

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Christina Websell - 22 Sep 2004 20:27 GMT
>>>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive
>>>>> alcoholic
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> That tortured me here, here in this place
> So many nights, in another time?

<sob>

Tweed
Christina Websell - 24 Sep 2004 18:00 GMT
>>>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive
>>>>> alcoholic
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> That tortured me here, here in this place
> So many nights, in another time?

I'd already asked my German friend when I got your reply (I did say I'd get
on to her right away, didn't I?) ;-)  Here's part of her mail and her
version of the poem, as a matter of interest

quote
Blimey, Tina, translate Heine! Wow, if I was able to properly do that I
wouldn't have to worry about my bank account, I suppose, I would just
translate all those famous German poets...

The night is quiet, the streets are asleep
in that house over there my love once lived
she left the city long ago
but there still stands that house in the same spot.

A man stands there, too, and looks up
and wrings his hands in distress
I'm terrified when I look into his face -
the moon shows to me a picture of myself.

You double, you pale mate!
Why do you mimic my suffering of love
that has tortured me at this very spot
many a night in days of old?

"The double", Heinrich Heine

(now, brush this over again,  turn into famous poetry that rhymes
nicely, offer to a publisher and get a good job straight away)

;-P
Unquote

Tweed
Kreisleriana - 24 Sep 2004 19:40 GMT
>>>>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive
>>>>>> alcoholic
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>wouldn't have to worry about my bank account, I suppose, I would just
>translate all those famous German poets...

Oh yeah, right, lots of money in that!

>The night is quiet, the streets are asleep
>in that house over there my love once lived
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>that has tortured me at this very spot
>many a night in days of old?

Nice.  No two will be exactly alike.  I tried to split the difference
between a literal translation, and one that  sounds a bit smoother in
English-- i.e. "Broken heart" for "Liebesleid"  which is literally
Love sorrow or suffering.  But both ways, you get the point.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Christina Websell - 24 Sep 2004 20:38 GMT
>>>>>>> Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive
>>>>>>> alcoholic
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>
> Oh yeah, right, lots of money in that!

<grin>

>>The night is quiet, the streets are asleep
>>in that house over there my love once lived
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Theresa

I actually like it, that you differ slightly.  Your English is better then
hers, anyway, although hers has much improved since we've been mailing, and
she's come to stay three times.
Tenses were and still are, sometimes, difficult.  "I'm living in a village."
No, you *live* in a village, stuff like that.
But anyway, it's a lovely poem.  Even though I cannot understand the German
version, that's the one that gives me shivers.

Tweed
You'd laugh at my German, I know only a few words. Ausfahrt.  Rathaus.(I
love this one)   Igel. Gesspert,  Huhn, Grashopfer, schatz.
Not exactly useful at the airport.
Marina - 25 Sep 2004 04:39 GMT
<snippage>
>>Blimey, Tina, translate Heine! Wow, if I was able to properly do that I
>>wouldn't have to worry about my bank account, I suppose, I would just
>>translate all those famous German poets...
>
> Oh yeah, right, lots of money in that!

LOL! Exactly what I thought. I'd like to translation only fiction, but I
couldn't live on that, so I have to do boring fact translations for my
day job.

> Nice.  No two will be exactly alike.  I tried to split the difference
> between a literal translation, and one that  sounds a bit smoother in
> English-- i.e. "Broken heart" for "Liebesleid"  which is literally
> Love sorrow or suffering.  But both ways, you get the point.

No two translations can be the same, because no two languages can be
translated literally, word to word, and every speaker of a language has
their own idiolect, i.e. their own interpretation of language. So each
translation is a version of the text, the version as the translator has
understood and interpreted it. A very much respected translator has said
that the only one who has to understand a text completely is the
translator.

Umm, how did I get up on this soapbox? <steps down>

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Singh - 23 Sep 2004 03:11 GMT
Aiyiyi, not you too! I'm glad you got out of it, and hugs and praise for your
guts in doing it. Not everyone has the intestinal fortitude to stand up for
themselves.

My first inkling that Mitch was trouble came when Fritzie made like his shoes
were something from the litterbox, and pretended to bury them.

Blessed be,
Baha

> > Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic my
> > first time around.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Tweed
CatNipped - 23 Sep 2004 14:25 GMT
> Aiyiyi, not you too! I'm glad you got out of it, and hugs and praise for
> your
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

LOL!!  I think if the concerned cats could have they would have buried The
A$$hole in very *deep* dirty litter - they absolutely hated him.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Singh - 23 Sep 2004 15:17 GMT
> LOL!!  I think if the concerned cats could have they would have buried The
> A$$hole in very *deep* dirty litter - they absolutely hated him.

So amazing, how a cat just KNOWS. I think Fritzie knew Mitch had racial
issues. Fritzie was half-Burmese, and pitch-black, and maybe he picked up the
racist vibe. Mitch was always giving me sh*t in the last couple months
together about wearing ethnic clothing from Africa and India and threatened
that after we married he'd best not catch me in a saree. His family revealed
their Christian Identity leanings-which BTW are not Christian since Jesus was
a Jew and they hate Jews-at a big gathering where they all got together to
tell me what I would wear for the wedding, their plans for the ceremony &
reception, etc. Notice it was all their plans and I was to have no say. This
is because I was technically an orphan and had no family to speak for me. That
day, I pretended to have to go out for Kotex, went to the corner and called
Buffalo. My buddies were in Toronto inside of two hours to take me home, and I
broke it of with that devil on the phone a couple of days later. My buddies
threw a party. For Fritzie's part, he got a nice big bag of good organic
catnip, and a daddy a few months later when I brought Louie home.

Blessed be,
Baha
CatNipped - 23 Sep 2004 15:25 GMT
> So amazing, how a cat just KNOWS. I think Fritzie knew Mitch had racial
> issues. Fritzie was half-Burmese, and pitch-black, and maybe he picked up
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> threatened
> that after we married he'd best not catch me in a saree.

Oh no, one of those!  I often wonder what a racist's perfect world would be
like - everyone the same color, everyone believing the same things, everyone
doing the same things, everyone having hetero s*x in the missionary position
(LOL) - BORING!!!!!!  I *love* learning new things - how would you learn
anything new if everybody were exactly like you??!!!  When you look at life
through someone else's eyes it gives you a whole new perspective, sheds new
light on things, and helps you get that much closer to what life is all
about.

> His family revealed
> their Christian Identity leanings-which BTW are not Christian since Jesus
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Thank goodness - you certainly dodged a bullet with that one, congrats for
coming to your senses soon enough.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Howard Berkowitz - 23 Sep 2004 17:01 GMT
> > So amazing, how a cat just KNOWS. I think Fritzie knew Mitch had racial
> > issues. Fritzie was half-Burmese, and pitch-black, and maybe he picked
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> light on things, and helps you get that much closer to what life is all
> about.

Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race, do
we? :-)
CatNipped - 23 Sep 2004 17:31 GMT
> Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race, do
> we? :-)

I would be wary of anyone who *didn't* think cats are the master race! ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Tanada - 23 Sep 2004 17:50 GMT
> Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race, do
> we? :-)

Not master race, but superior species.  Cats celebrate their
individualities.  They revel in their oddities, they enjoy being
different.  Try herding cats, it isn't going to happen.  Try herding
racists, all you have to do is yell "mixed race couple having sex in apt
309."

Pam S. who KNOWS that cats are a superior species
Howard Berkowitz - 23 Sep 2004 20:17 GMT
> > Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race,
> > do
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Pam S. who KNOWS that cats are a superior species

As an example of herding racists...

In the early 70's, while walking with some friends in the trendy
Georgetown district of DC (it was the corner of Wisconsin and M), we
encountered two uniformed members of the American Nazi Party leafletting
pedestrians.  They were looking rather surly as most people took their
leaflets, crumpled them, and angrily threw them away.

That was far too prosaic.  I took their leaflet, and even gave a bit of
a polite nod and smile. They brightened.  Then, I let shock creep into
my face.

"You...dare...to...call...yourselves...National...Socialists?  THIS IS
LEFT-WING STRASSERIST DEVIATIONISM! Ach, what would the Fuhrer think?"

The Nazis had become accustomed to being called many things, but being
too liberal apparently was outside their comfort zone. On a hunch, I
yelled a bit in my limited German, and got obvious blank looks. For my
own enjoyment, I shouted, in a Hitlerian spray, the lyrics to "Silent
Night," but in German.  They cringed.

I then suggested that they had no understanding of ideology, and began
to criticize their uniforms.  One had a button loose...I didn't quite
have the guts to yank it off and hand it to him, but I certainly pointed
it out. Eventually, I called them to attention and ordered them to
salute, and they did so.

The salutes, however, were not to my satisfaction. I yelled some more,
both in English and pseudo-German (well, I think I was ordering wine),
and then reached out and started correcting their hand position. By the
time I left, they were sufficiently obedient as not to have realized I
had them giving each other the finger.
Takayuki - 23 Sep 2004 23:34 GMT
>In the early 70's, while walking with some friends in the trendy
>Georgetown district of DC (it was the corner of Wisconsin and M), we
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>"You...dare...to...call...yourselves...National...Socialists?  THIS IS
>LEFT-WING STRASSERIST DEVIATIONISM! Ach, what would the Fuhrer think?"

ROFL!!  That's great.  Sounds like something Dave Y. would do.
Kreisleriana - 24 Sep 2004 00:08 GMT
(snip)

>In the early 70's, while walking with some friends in the trendy
>Georgetown district of DC (it was the corner of Wisconsin and M), we
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>"You...dare...to...call...yourselves...National...Socialists?  THIS IS
>LEFT-WING STRASSERIST DEVIATIONISM! Ach, what would the Fuhrer think?"

Brilliant!

I would have said something loudly about missing my monthly check from
the International Jewish Banking Conspiracy. ;)

Theresa
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Howard Berkowitz - 24 Sep 2004 00:25 GMT
> (snip)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I would have said something loudly about missing my monthly check from
> the International Jewish Banking Conspiracy. ;)

That would haven't fit the image. Accusing THEM of taking such a check
would.
Kreisleriana - 24 Sep 2004 00:44 GMT
>> (snip)
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>That would haven't fit the image. Accusing THEM of taking such a check
>would.

I was just sayin' what I would have done.  I didn't say it was great .
. . <slinking away>

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Seanette Blaylock - 24 Sep 2004 01:49 GMT
Howard Berkowitz <hcb@gettcomm.com> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: Fritzie the matchmaker (long):

[taunting neo-Nazis]
>I then suggested that they had no understanding of ideology, and began
>to criticize their uniforms.  One had a button loose...I didn't quite
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>time I left, they were sufficiently obedient as not to have realized I
>had them giving each other the finger.

ROTFLMHO!!!!! [And that's dangerous around here right now!] :-)

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doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.

:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
Singh - 24 Sep 2004 04:10 GMT
Oh, that IS beautiful. My hat is off!!!

Myself, though, I'd have told them "Du kannst mich mal am arsch lecken!" and
see if the little jackasses were Aryan enough to have caught it.

Blessed be,
Baha

> > > Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race,
> > > do
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> time I left, they were sufficiently obedient as not to have realized I
> had them giving each other the finger.
Seanette Blaylock - 24 Sep 2004 04:08 GMT
Singh <bahadur@localnet.com> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Fritzie the matchmaker (long):

>Oh, that IS beautiful. My hat is off!!!
>
>Myself, though, I'd have told them "Du kannst mich mal am arsch lecken!" and
>see if the little jackasses were Aryan enough to have caught it.

BabelFish and WorldLingo made identical messes of translating that,
but I get the drift [and am pleasantly surprised that I guessed very
close to right before consulting the translating sites, since I know
VERY little German].

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Kreisleriana - 24 Sep 2004 04:08 GMT
>Oh, that IS beautiful. My hat is off!!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Blessed be,
>Baha

Isn't there a lovely Schubert setting of that? ;)

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Howard Berkowitz - 24 Sep 2004 04:33 GMT
> Oh, that IS beautiful. My hat is off!!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

They didn't seem to respond to anything but "Achtung!", and the screamed
lyrics of hymns went over their heads. In retrospect, however, it might
have been consistent with your sentiment, and my style of delivery, to
have left them with the words "Gentlemen, using the term loosely, I
leave you with the words that Gotz von Berlichengen said to the Bishop
of Bamberg."
Seanette Blaylock - 24 Sep 2004 04:44 GMT
Howard Berkowitz <hcb@gettcomm.com> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: Fritzie the matchmaker (long):

>They didn't seem to respond to anything but "Achtung!", and the screamed
>lyrics of hymns went over their heads. In retrospect, however, it might
>have been consistent with your sentiment, and my style of delivery, to
>have left them with the words "Gentlemen, using the term loosely, I
>leave you with the words that Gotz von Berlichengen said to the Bishop
>of Bamberg."

????

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Howard Berkowitz - 24 Sep 2004 05:24 GMT
> Howard Berkowitz <hcb@gettcomm.com> had some very interesting things
> to say about Re: Fritzie the matchmaker (long):
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>
> ????

A classic line from Goethe, in which the knight Gotz says something very
naughty that one rarely says to bishops.  It's a polite German
euphemism, as is Le mot de Chambronne is in French. Both refer to
obscene remarks.

Anyone reasonably literate in German -- and I'm really not -- should
know what that meant. I doubt these two clowns would have.
Tanada - 24 Sep 2004 05:36 GMT
> I then suggested that they had no understanding of ideology, and began
> to criticize their uniforms.  One had a button loose...I didn't quite
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> time I left, they were sufficiently obedient as not to have realized I
> had them giving each other the finger.

Howard, you are bad.  I love it.  Thanks for the laugh.

Pam S.
Christine Burel - 24 Sep 2004 14:57 GMT
Go, go, Howard!
Christine

> > > Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master race,
> > > do
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> time I left, they were sufficiently obedient as not to have realized I
> had them giving each other the finger.
Adrian - 24 Sep 2004 11:51 GMT
>> Of course, we don't know anyone that thinks cats are the master
>> race, do we? :-)
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> racists, all you have to do is yell "mixed race couple having sex in
> apt 309."

That would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that it's sadly true.

> Pam S. who KNOWS that cats are a superior species

The ancient egyptians worshiped cats, the cats have never forgotten
this.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 24 Sep 2004 20:39 GMT
Tanada wrote:

> Try herding racists, all you have to do is yell "mixed race couple
> having sex in apt 309."

If you want to give them a coronary, you could yell, "several mixed-race,
same-sex couples having Wiccan sex ritual/orgy in apt. 309". :)

I guess that would herd in several more bigots as well!

Joyce
Christina Websell - 24 Sep 2004 20:49 GMT
> Tanada wrote:
>
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>
> Joyce

Lol!  Good one.

Tweed
Exocat - 22 Sep 2004 19:55 GMT
Me too, seriously! (genders reversed, obviously)

Nowadays I know to respect my "boys'" judgment over my own.

Purrs

Gordon & the TT

PS I see Tweed had a similar experience. We're all from the same year.
The macabreness grows (shudder).

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> I learned a long time ago to trust my cat's judgement in men over my
> own. Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive
> alcoholic my first time around.
CatNipped - 22 Sep 2004 20:59 GMT
> Me too, seriously! (genders reversed, obviously)
>
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> PS I see Tweed had a similar experience. We're all from the same year.
> The macabreness grows (shudder).

I've never known their judgement to fail!  My first husband, an abusive
alcoholic (hereafter referred to as "The A$$hole", was terrified of cats
because they absolutely hated his guts, *every* cat he ever met tried to
slice and dice him.  I found out later that The A$$hole killed his sister's
cat (who would wait for him on top of the refrigerator so he could jump on
his head and scratch his face).  Every time he went near a cat the cat would
hiss and spit and fluff out - it was eerie, but they seemed to instantly
detect his true character.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Singh - 23 Sep 2004 03:08 GMT
Hugs aplenty to you!!! I'm sorry you went through that, but so glad to hear
that you've got the guts to speak out.

Blessed be!
Baha

> >I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
> > lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
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>
> CatNipped
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:21 GMT
Many have said that about dogs. "If my dog don't like him, I don't like
him". Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

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I learned a long time ago to trust my cat's judgement in men over my own.
Had I listened to a cat I would never have married an abusive alcoholic my
first time around.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christine Burel - 22 Sep 2004 16:05 GMT
Oh, what a great story!  What a discerning example of feline intuition!
Thanks for this, Baha!  Hmmm, thinking of the possibilities of the next
dating reality show...
Christine
> I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
> lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
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>
> Baha
Enfilade - 23 Sep 2004 03:00 GMT
How I know I'm with the right person:

1.  Was thrilled when I brought home a stray tom from the military
base
2.  Brought home two orphan kittens he found in the trash
3.  And hand raised them
4.  And now they think he is their biological mother and groom
him...at 15 months of age

The bed is a bit small for six but...we manage.

--Enfilade
CatNipped - 23 Sep 2004 14:26 GMT
> How I know I'm with the right person:
>
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>
> --Enfilade

Exactly!!  When a person is kind to helpless creatures, it's a pretty sure
bet they're going to be kind to you too.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Adrian - 24 Sep 2004 11:44 GMT
> How I know I'm with the right person:
>
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>
> The bed is a bit small for six but...we manage.

If you get another cat, you'll just have to sleep on the floor. ;-)
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Marina - 22 Sep 2004 16:33 GMT
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> When I met Louie he came up to my place after about ten days, and met
> Fritzie for the first time. Without a word he went to the bag of food
> and fed him. Fritzie was all over him afterward, and even slept with him
> while we watched the idiot box. After another ten days Louie proposed.
> We'll celebrate our second anniversary next month.

Cats just know. If only I had trusted in Frank's judgement, I could have
saved myself from a beating.

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CatNipped - 22 Sep 2004 16:29 GMT
> Cats just know. If only I had trusted in Frank's judgement, I could have
> saved myself from a beating.

{{{{{{{{{{Marina}}}}}}}}}}  How awful for you!  I hope the bast*rd did jail
time!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

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Takayuki - 23 Sep 2004 03:53 GMT
>Cats just know. If only I had trusted in Frank's judgement, I could have
>saved myself from a beating.

How terrible!  Purrs for you and Frank, and litterbox offerings for
him.
polonca12000 - 23 Sep 2004 09:58 GMT
Lots of hugs and purrs,
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> Cats just know. If only I had trusted in Frank's judgement, I could have
> saved myself from a beating.
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:02 GMT
I'm having a memory failure. If my brain cells are working, didn't Fritzie
and I get along OK? I sure hope so!

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I lived alone much of my life, and have had to deal with lousy jobs,
lousy men, unemployment, rehab after a bad accident, and the baggage of
a sordid upbringing. Through all this, my Fritzie, who left to enter the
Court of our God/dess last December, stood by me. He was fiercely loyal,
perhaps nowhere more so than in evaluating the men I chose to date.

Sal was a hardcore Trekkie who lived for conventions, never bothered to
find a job and sponged off his father for money to go see whatever
sci-fi person came to town. He's come to my apartment-a nasty little
efficiency with barely room to breathe, but dirt cheap-and lounge around
all day watching videos. Fritzie would climb to a high space and
divebomb him, right in his paunchy gut. For hours; and hours; and more
hours. No matter how Sal tried to place himself, he could not escape
Fritzie, who thought he was a toy, not a sentient being to respect.
David, a friend of Sal's, couldn't decide between me and a nasty woman
who was excellent at verbal emasculation. Fritzie swore at him and
slapped his hand away every time DAvid tried to pet him. Jeff, my
experiment in cohabitation that went horribly wrong, got hissed at
regularly. Fritzie would walk into the computer room casually, sit next
to Jeff, and hurl obscenities at him that would peel the wallpaper.
These three relationships were doomed to fail.

Mitch, a fellow from Toronto, did not earn trampolining, nor swats, nor
cusswords. In fact, I first thought Fritzie accepted him until I saw
that when he visited, Fritzie thoroughly ignored him. Never bothered to
come for a petting or a treat the way he did when my buddies "Aunt
Sandy" and "Uncle Randy" came by. always sat by me, never Mitch. I came
to realize that Fritzie had total contempt for him, and I learned why:
Mitch gave off way bad vibes. I learned that he was a white supremacist
involved with the "Christian Identity" movement and that he believed
that the Holocaust was a bunch of horsesh*t and propaganda set up by the
US government. My father was a political prisoner under Hitler and had
the tattoo, and all the baggage that only the Nazis could give. I broke
it off so that I wouldn't get arrested for assault & battery on my next
visit.

When I met Louie he came up to my place after about ten days, and met
Fritzie for the first time. Without a word he went to the bag of food
and fed him. Fritzie was all over him afterward, and even slept with him
while we watched the idiot box. After another ten days Louie proposed.
We'll celebrate our second anniversary next month.

As a postscript: our third date was to a party hosted by David, and Sal
was there as well. It was announced that Louie would be coming with a
date, and I'd be the date; and when the shock wore off and we arrived,
the first question from Sal was, "Does she still have that cat?" "You
mean Fritzie?" Louie asked innocently, having heard long ago of the
trampolining. Sal walked away, white as a sheet, and you could swear he
was shivering.

Blessed be,

Baha
 
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