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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2004Stress Induced Illness?? Long
OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three dogs and one cat... Well, thank all that's good, she left this afternoon. On my way home from work I stopped at PetsMart and picked up 2 economy-sized bottles of Nature's Miracle and a black light and some "Stink Out". We already have a steamer, so I figured I'd just add a whole bottle of Nature's Miracle to the water in the steamer and do all the carpets, upstairs and down, after going over the carpet with the black light and spot treating the pee spots with full-strength Nature's Miracle and the "Stink Out". When I walked in the door to my bedroom I saw that one of my cats had had an attack of diarrhea in a line leading up to the litter box - the poor baby couldn't even make it to the box. [Oh well, I already had all the cleaning stuff!] However, I don't know which of my girls is sick, so I'll have to watch them closely before I know who to take to the vet. The question I have is, do you think it's possible that the diarrhea could be stress induced - after all, they were attacked by three dogs in their own bedroom and all four were cooped up in that one room for 6 days. They weren't in contact in any way with the visitor cat, he was kept in an upstairs bedroom and they didn't get near his food and water dishes or his (my!!) litter box (I disinfected all the litter boxes before setting them up again for my girls) - so I don't think they could have caught anything from him. Any advice other than get her, whoever it is, to the vet? <gripe> Never again!! That woman will not set foot in this house again unless my husband lays down some rules to her. The first one will be that her d*gs will be confined to one room (hopefully one without carpet) or outside in our LARGE, FENCED IN YARD, and she will do her fair share to help with the housework. I'm really PO'd that she treated me like a hotel maid - I did groceries for her food (which she did not chip in for), I cooked her food, I cleaned her dishes (she would get up from the table and go sit down to watch TV without so much as putting her plate in the sink), I washed her clothes (I think she must have brought some dirty ones with her because I did 3 loads of hers alone - folding, hanging, everything but ironing!!!), I fed her cat, I scooped his box, I cleaned up after her dogs.... heck, even hotel maids don't do all the stuff I did!!!!! </gripe> Hugs, CatNipped > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > own > bedroom and all four were cooped up in that one room for 6 days. Yes, I think it's possible. You needn't think about taking them toithe vet's until everything has settled down in their home for a few days. > They weren't in contact in any way with the visitor cat, he was kept in an > upstairs bedroom and they didn't get near his food and water dishes or his [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > from > him. I doubt that they've caught anything, they are just stressed. > Any advice other than get her, whoever it is, to the vet? > > <gripe> See how they are in five days. > Never again!! That woman will not set foot in this house again unless my > husband lays down some rules to her. The first one will be that her d*gs > will be confined to one room (hopefully one without carpet) or outside in > our LARGE, FENCED IN YARD, and she will do her fair share to help with the > housework. Oh my. > I'm really PO'd that she treated me like a hotel maid - I did groceries > for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > </gripe> That's mothers in law for you. I had one of my own.. No need to worry. She and her unhousetrained dogs are gone. You did good. Very good even, you tolerated more than most people would. Be proud of yourself. Tweed > Yes, I think it's possible. You needn't think about taking them toithe > vet's until everything has settled down in their home for a few days. OK, I think you're right - I'll just keep my eye on them. > I doubt that they've caught anything, they are just stressed. > See how they are in five days. Yep, will do > That's mothers in law for you. I had one of my own.. > No need to worry. She and her unhousetrained dogs are gone. > You did good. Very good even, you tolerated more than most people would. > Be proud of yourself. > > Tweed Thank you - I did it for my DH, who really is a sweetie. Did I tell you guys about the very minute I decided I was going to marry this guy??? We were driving out of my apartment parking lot when he suddenly pulled over to the side of the road, got out of the car, walked around to the passenger side of the car, caught the gecko that was hitching a ride on the car windshield, and placed him in the grassy field on the side of the road to go safely on his way!!! Hugs, CatNipped > > Yes, I think it's possible. You needn't think about taking them toithe > > vet's until everything has settled down in their home for a few days. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > windshield, and placed him in the grassy field on the side of the road to go > safely on his way!!! Good for you! sounds like a better match than if you'd taken that damned gecko. I can't see you dancing on a moonlit beach to "Sometimes When We Touch..." Blessed be, Baha > Good for you! sounds like a better match than if you'd taken that damned > gecko. > I can't see you dancing on a moonlit beach to "Sometimes When We Touch..." > > Blessed be, > Baha ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!! You're a trip Baha! Hugs, CatNipped > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > dogs and one cat... Yes, I think it's entirely possible that the problem was stress-induced, in which case it should soon solve itself. People can have stress-induced gastrointestinal problems; I see no reason why cats can't. I just hope the moving out was in time so that *you* don't get such an illness. You certainly put up with way more than you should have had to. Your husband owes you, big time! Joy > Yes, I think it's entirely possible that the problem was stress-induced, > in which case it should soon solve itself. People can have > stress-induced gastrointestinal problems; I see no reason why cats > can't. I just hope the moving out was in time so that *you* don't get > such an illness. You certainly put up with way more than you should > have had to. Thanks! My stomach is kind of queasy, but only from the thought of having to clean up all this d*g pee!!! ;> > Your husband owes you, big time! > > Joy Yes, he apologized to me profusely and said he would clean the whole house and yard tomorrow or when he gets home from work at 4:00AM (too late, I couldn't leave the house like this another night - I wanted my babies to be able to roam free again - but the thought was nice)!!!. He didn't say so, but I think he was ashamed of his mother's behavior, which is why I tried not to come down too hard on him, but I *did* say that if this happens again (there's more hurricanes out there), that he would have to lay down the rules to his mom - especially about the dogs. I don't think it was right that they got the run of the house the whole time while my girls was penalized - especially since they couldn't keep from soiling every carpet in the house. I've never seen animals so spoiled and indulged as these d*gs (and that's saying a lot as spoiled as my crew is!!!). But she was just disgusting about it. She sat at my kitchen table during dinner and tore off hunks of broiled chicken or other meat from her plate to throw on the floor for the d*gs to eat. She sat on the couch eating from a bag of microwaved popcorn and held the bag out for the d*gs to help themselves - and then ate out of the bag and offered the bag to me!!!!! YUCK!!!!!!!!!! And you must realize, I'm used to my daughter and SIL's d*gs. They "heel", "sit", "lay down", leave the room when told (they wouldn't *dream* of coming near the table at dinner time), *never* have an accident inside the house, *never* get on the furniture, *never* bark except when they hear strangers near the house, *never* chase the cats (my cats don't have to be penned up when they're here, they wouldn't think of trying to harm the cats). All of this training was done with quiet discipline, never any spanking or raised voices, and with as much love as when they discipline their children. So MIL's d*gs where quite a shock to me. Hugs, CatNipped > I've never seen animals so spoiled and indulged as these d*gs (and that's > saying a lot as spoiled as my crew is!!!). But she was just disgusting > about it. She sat at my kitchen table during dinner and tore off hunks of > broiled chicken or other meat from her plate to throw on the floor for the > d*gs to eat. Reminds me of one of the dinner scenes in "Moonstruck", where Olympia Dukakis threatens her father-in-law (who is about to feed his dogs with her cooking) "old man, if you feed those dogs any more of my food I'm going to kick you 'til you're dead" and he turns right around and comes back to the table ;-) Anyway, purrs to you that the cleanup is easy, and that you all recover quickly from the stress. -Caroline S. > Reminds me of one of the dinner scenes in "Moonstruck", where Olympia > Dukakis threatens her father-in-law (who is about to feed his dogs with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Caroline S. Clean-up wasn't easy, but it's done and after going over the carpets with a black light I don't see anymore pee spots, so hopefully there's no lasting damage. Thanks for the purrs - I've recovered, but as of this morning my girls were still antsy. Jessie kept jumping up to get in Bandit's face as if she were challenging Bandit for Alpha cat position - which she doesn't stand a chance of getting. Just 3 days agao Bandit stood up to three d*gs getting in her face and didn't even bother to stand up, she just laid of the floor and hiss/spit at them as if to say, "Bring it on suckas!" I think *I* was more frightened! Naturally my MIL just stood there and watched as the d*gs attacked my cat, I was the one who jumped into the middle of it and wrestled the d*gs out of my bedroom - I was lucky I didn't get bitten!! Hugs, CatNipped <snip> >And you must realize, I'm used to my daughter and SIL's d*gs. They "heel", >"sit", "lay down", leave the room when told (they wouldn't *dream* of coming [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >voices, and with as much love as when they discipline their children. So >MIL's d*gs where quite a shock to me. I grew up a d*g person, and only have the gang here because they forced their way in and took up residence. That said, I firmly believe d*gs are happiest when they've been given some basic training. They're pack animals by instinct, and if they're not trained they don't know how to act because there's no clear cut pack leader. When this happens you have unhappy and confused d*gs. Especially bad in your MIL's case, since she has a couple good sized d*gs - even the smaller one isn't exactly small.  SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >I grew up a d*g person, and only have the gang here because they >forced their way in and took up residence. That said, I firmly believe >d*gs are happiest when they've been given some basic training. They're >pack animals by instinct, and if they're not trained they don't know >how to act because there's no clear cut pack leader. That's true, Steve. They look to you to be the pack leader, and they feel secure when you set boundaries for them. It's really not kind to let your dogs run amuck. I don't think they like it any more than the people around them. Sherry > That's true, Steve. They look to you to be the pack leader, and they feel > secure when you set boundaries for them. It's really not kind to let your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry I think you're right. As I was telling Steve, MIL's d*gs are always fighting each other, growling, barking, etc. - very nerve wracking! Hugs, CatNipped > >I grew up a d*g person, and only have the gang here because they > >forced their way in and took up residence. That said, I firmly believe [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > run amuck. I don't think they like it any more than the people around > them. Definitely a factor with their relatives as well. I've known some pet wolves and wolf hybrids, and they definitely needed to be formally introduced to me by the (hoomin) alpha. Afterwards, they couldn't have been nicer -- apparently the formal introduction gives high status. A very close friend, whom I call my virtual daughter, actually fostered orphaned wolf cubs when she lived in northern Canada. Eventually, she reintroduced them to a local pack, having learned enough Wolfish to get the pack curious. She wound up being accepted in the wild pack. When she visited me here in DC, we visited the animal behavior education building, and soon greatly impressed the staff on her knowledge -- she is a psychologist anyway. They made arrangements to visit the wolf enclosure, where Heather walked uo to the fence, crouched a bit, and said several things in Wolfish. Some very curious wolves were at the fence quite quickly, looking for the wolf, and clearly being amazed when they realized a hoomin was speaking to them. A couple of them immediately went into submissive poses, the others were polite, and more came over. I'm not quite sure what she said, but it got respect. > Definitely a factor with their relatives as well. I've known some pet > wolves and wolf hybrids, and they definitely needed to be formally [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > poses, the others were polite, and more came over. I'm not quite sure > what she said, but it got respect. Wow, I've heard of horse whisperers, but nobody who could talk to wolves - that's impressive and I too would love to know what she said! Hugs, CatNipped > I grew up a d*g person, and only have the gang here because they > forced their way in and took up residence. That said, I firmly believe [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > since she has a couple good sized d*gs - even the smaller one isn't > exactly small. Yeah, I've had cats and d*gs all my life, and we always made sure all the d*gs clearly knew who their pack leader was and they all seemed much happier than my MIL's d*gs (who fight each other constantly - which is scary to me - and bark constantly, are are clearly nervous beasts). Hugs, CatNipped "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Stress Induced Illness?? Long: >Yeah, I've had cats and d*gs all my life, and we always made sure all the >d*gs clearly knew who their pack leader was and they all seemed much happier >than my MIL's d*gs (who fight each other constantly - which is scary to me - >and bark constantly, are are clearly nervous beasts). At about twelve, I could do an alpha roll on a grown male Dobe. What's your MIL's excuse? Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > At about twelve, I could do an alpha roll on a grown male Dobe. What's > your MIL's excuse? I think she thinks she's being nice to them by treating them like babies instead of d*gs, but she doesn't realize how miserable they are. They are very confused, fight each other (growling, barking and snapping at each other constantly), and they don't respect humans so are really very dangerous in the wrong circumstances (as I mentioned, I was very lucky not to have been bitten when I rescued Bandit from their attack - the d*gs were struggling against my restraint). When my granddaughters were still here my SIL got really angry when the d*gs started fighting just inches away from his youngest daughter, but my MIL didn't even try to stop them and ignored his angry tone of voice when he told his daughter got get away from the dogs (I think she thought that was the correct solution rather than disciplining her d*gs!!). She will be really heartborken if they bite a neighbor's child and have to be taken away, but it will be her fault. They don't obey even the simplest command, they're always underfoot (I can't tell you how many times I tripped over them when I was trying to cook!). They really made themselve unwelcome in my home again - and it's not their fault, it's hers. I having nothing against d*gs, really *love* them in fact, grew up with a constant canine companion as well as cats (and chickens, pigeons, canaries, parakeets, snakes, aligators, pigs, geese, and even a neutria). I'm delighted when my daughter and SIL's d*gs come to visit, but my MILs will not be in my house again unless they are confined in a spare room or outside. Hugs, CatNipped > > Yes, I think it's entirely possible that the problem was stress-induced, > > in which case it should soon solve itself. People can have > > stress-induced gastrointestinal problems; I see no reason why cats > > can't. I just hope the moving out was in time so that *you* don't get > > such an illness. You certainly put up with way more than you should > > have had to. Indeed! Two days into the visit, and either I'd have sent her to a hotel, or moved into one, myself. I agree by the way. I think the cats are very stressed, and a visit to TED would only stress them out, worse. Never forget that they could smell the D*gs leaving THEIR smell all over your cat's home. They may have thought the arrangement was permanent, and they'd never be free, again. > Thanks! My stomach is kind of queasy, but only from the thought of having > to clean up all this d*g pee!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > couldn't leave the house like this another night - I wanted my babies to be > able to roam free again - but the thought was nice)!!!. "Well, Darling, I cleaned and disinfected the house. And you know? I'm really tired of cooking and I want to go out for an elegant dinner at ___________________(Name of your favorite restaurant)." Better yet, get him to take you for a relaxing spa weekend. =o) > He didn't say so, but I think he was ashamed of his mother's behavior, which > is why I tried not to come down too hard on him, but I *did* say that if [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > girls was penalized - especially since they couldn't keep from soiling every > carpet in the house. Especially not about that last bit! I think you should give DH an addendum stating that if your rules about the dogs are not followed, you will be LEAVING for the duration, and he can find you at the nicest motel in town. And you would like to come home to a clean household. > I've never seen animals so spoiled and indulged as these d*gs (and that's > saying a lot as spoiled as my crew is!!!). But she was just disgusting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and held the bag out for the d*gs to help themselves - and then ate out of > the bag and offered the bag to me!!!!! YUCK!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT EAT ANY MEALS AT HER HOME! Ech!! Gross! Sometimes, my crew will get some nice table scraps as a treat, but they get them AFTER I finish eating, and in their own bowls. Pan has learned to sit and watch quietly, and Cesca and Nina are learning this art. I may spoil my four footed darlings, but only within limits! > And you must realize, I'm used to my daughter and SIL's d*gs. They "heel", > "sit", "lay down", leave the room when told (they wouldn't *dream* of coming [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CatNipped They'd be a shock to anyone, believe me. I would not have put up with all of that, I must admit. I love dogs, and I would be delighted to be hostess to well-behaved ones like your SIL's dogs. Animals that know how to behave properly are a pleasure to be around. If I had a dog of my own, I'd make sure it was capable of being a good, polite dog guest before I made anyone else accept it in their home. And I'd make sure the dog got walks and pee breaks during the visit to avoid the possibility of accidents. My sister's late Corgi, Maddy, was another well trained dog. There is no WAY I'd let spoiled, undisciplined dogs stay long in my house, especially when they made messes indoors and their "Parent" Made no move to either discipline the dog, or clean up the mess. Melissa. > Indeed! Two days into the visit, and either I'd have sent her to a hotel, > or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they'd > never be free, again. You're right - but I don't think there is a hotel in the US who would take her with 3 d*gs and a cat, so it would have to be me going to the hotel and then I'd be worrying about what she and her animals were doing to my house and my animals without me there. > "Well, Darling, I cleaned and disinfected the house. And you know? I'm > really tired of cooking and I want to go out for an elegant dinner at > ___________________(Name of your favorite restaurant)." Better yet, get > him > to take you for a relaxing spa weekend. =o) *Very* good idea, thanks!! > Especially not about that last bit! I think you should give DH an addendum > stating that if your rules about the dogs are not followed, you will be > LEAVING for the duration, and he can find you at the nicest motel in town. > And you would like to come home to a clean household. I think what I will offer to do would be put her up, but kennel her d*gs with our vet, having DH gently explain that while we would gladly give her shelter from a hurricane, our beloved cats were stressed to the point of illness by the d*gs and we can't put them through that (especially our 14-year-old) again. > DO NOT EAT ANY MEALS AT HER HOME! Ech!! Gross! Sometimes, my crew will > get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and Nina are learning this art. I may spoil my four footed darlings, but > only within limits! No, I don't even like to go into her house when we go down to New Orleans - it smells and it's hard to navigate through all the mess. I usually stay with my daughter and visit MIL briefly and then leave DH to visit with my grandbabies. > They'd be a shock to anyone, believe me. I would not have put up with all > of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Melissa. See, that's what I can't understand. Even though I spoil my babies terribly, I would be *so* embarrassed if they messed in someone's home - and I would be mortified if they attacked someone else's beloved pet!!! Hugs, CatNipped > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > dogs and one cat... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Any advice other than get her, whoever it is, to the vet? I have seen stress induced diahrea like that, and YES, just being confined and knowing and smelling the other animals and the upset routine could definitely cause it. Do keep an eye on them because they can also get a UTI from stress depressing their immunity. I suspect all will return to normal soon. Good luck and do seek a vet if they aren't better in a day just to be safe. Karen > I have seen stress induced diahrea like that, and YES, just being confined > and knowing and smelling the other animals and the upset routine could [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Karen Thanks Karen, I'm keeping my eye on them. Hopefully, with their house back and with quiet again they will settle down today and get back to normal. Hugs, CatNipped <snippage> > When I walked in the door to my bedroom I saw that one of my cats had had an > attack of diarrhea in a line leading up to the litter box - the poor baby > couldn't even make it to the box. Probably stress-related. If your cats like yoghurt, you could give them some. It contasins good bacteria that soothes the tummy. I've been meaning to get some for Nikki, as her antibiotics are giving her diarrhoea. If you have dairy products with acidophilus bacteria in them, try that. Purrs that it is just a passing <g> thing. heck, even hotel maids > don't do all the stuff I did!!!!! No they don't. You are an absolute saint to have put up with all that. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Probably stress-related. If your cats like yoghurt, you could give them > some. It contasins good bacteria that soothes the tummy. I've been meaning [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > No they don't. You are an absolute saint to have put up with all that. Thanks Marina, I didn't think about yogurt - I'll have to try that. But I'm not a saint, just a wuss!!! ;> Hugs, CatNipped Why couldn't a cat get a whopping case of the Tijuana Trots from stress? Two-legs can and do. When I had to go to the psycho hospital last month, all I wanted to do was crap, I was that freaked out. Muthas-in-law are, unfortunately, a big trigger. Mine still scares the hell out of me, especially around the holidays. (Mama Singh is the only Christian in a family of Sikhs, so maybe she's freaking a bit too, who knows?) Problem with her is that she finds ways to bring my weight into anything. "How about that NHL lockout?" "Elizabeth, did you gain weight?" "Did you manage to get out and vote?" "You do look a little thick around the middle. Or maybe you're pregnant. Are you pregnant? Are you regular? They say Polish girls have big babies you know." "And how about them that Emmys?" "I'll be watching you at dinner. You'd best watch those calories unless you're pregnant. Are you pregnant...?" Two years ago she gave me a jacket three sizes too small, and told me infront of everyone to diet down to it. But I digress. Sure, I think a cat can get the sh*ts from pure stress alone. Cats, I think, are used to routine; Stosh will raise hell if we don't give him a pickup within five minutes of coming home from work, for instance. And figure: here's this woman coming over with another cats and, you should pardon the expression, a dog. 3 dogs, excuse my French. Those noisy D-creatures, and God help the cats if there were any those yappy little breeds that can wake up the next solar system. A cat's sensitive ears may not care for the sound of a toy-breed d*g's high-pitched yelps. > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > dogs and one cat... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > carpet with the black light and spot treating the pee spots with > full-strength Nature's Miracle and the "Stink Out". Great name! I think I need some because Stosh decided to show us who's boss by marking the air duct downstairs so the whole place smells like Eau de Delinquent Juvenile. > When I walked in the door to my bedroom I saw that one of my cats had had an > attack of diarrhea in a line leading up to the litter box - the poor baby [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > be stress induced - after all, they were attacked by three dogs in their own > bedroom and all four were cooped up in that one room for 6 days. Attacked?! Even worse. No wonder one of them got the sh*ts. > Any advice other than get her, whoever it is, to the vet? Yeah. Get the Mutha-in-law to a hotel unless it's a major emergency. > <gripe> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > our LARGE, FENCED IN YARD, and she will do her fair share to help with the > housework. Amen!!! > I'm really PO'd that she treated me like a hotel maid - I did groceries for > her food (which she did not chip in for), I cooked her food, I cleaned her [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > scooped his box, I cleaned up after her dogs.... heck, even hotel maids > don't do all the stuff I did!!!!! You'd have been better tipped at a Motel 6. Blessed be, Baha > You'd have been better tipped at a Motel 6. And treated better Pam S. >> You'd have been better tipped at a Motel 6. > > And treated better > > Pam S. ROTFLMAO! Yes indeed! Hugs, CatNipped > Why couldn't a cat get a whopping case of the Tijuana Trots from stress? > Two-legs can and do. When I had to go to the psycho hospital last month, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > you're > pregnant. Are you pregnant...?" Oh my!! What a bit*h!! I would give you a bit*hy comeback for that (I was overweight all of my life until I had gastric bypass surgery 6 months ago, so I've had lots of practice with fielding snide remarks) - but then you might use it and cause trouble in your family. Maybe if you just mention that negative comments cause stress and stress causes overeating? Nah, people like that just aren't sensitive enough to relate the problem back to themselves. > Two years ago she gave me a jacket three sizes too small, and told me > infront of > everyone to diet down to it. I hope you exchanged it for something you liked! > But I digress. Sure, I think a cat can get the sh*ts from pure stress > alone. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > next solar system. A cat's sensitive ears may not care for the sound of a > toy-breed d*g's high-pitched yelps. *All* of them barked non-stop!! They woke me up 10 or 12 times each night and were worse during the day. They fought each other and growled and bit - they were horrible!!! > Great name! I think I need some because Stosh decided to show us who's > boss by > marking the air duct downstairs so the whole place smells like Eau de > Delinquent > Juvenile. Isn't it though??! It does work, but I think Nature's Miracle works better - the "Stink Out" just came in the package with the black light. > Attacked?! Even worse. No wonder one of them got the sh*ts. Yeah, we were going somewhere last Saturday and leaving through my bedroom. All three d*gs pushed past my MIL and rushed after my cats. Jessie, Demi and Sammy ran under my bed and were safe, but Bandit just laid there in the middle of the floor and hiss/spit at them as if to say, "Bring it on suckas!" MIL just stood there watching and I had to jump into the middle of it - the biggest dog was growling, barking and snapping its jaws at Bandit and I was afraid I was going to be bitten - but even more afraid that my baby would be mauled. I grabbed the d*g around the neck and wrestled it out of the bedroom, then went back and dove into the fray to get the other two out too. Bandit gave me a dirty look and licked her paw as if to say, "Aw, you spoiled my fun, I was just about to have d*ggie for brunch!!" LOL > Yeah. Get the Mutha-in-law to a hotel unless it's a major emergency. If she needs to come again she'll be told that the d*gs will be put in a kennel at my vets - I can't have my cats, especially my 14-year-old, stressed out like that again. > You'd have been better tipped at a Motel 6. > > Blessed be, > Baha LOL - dang right I would have!! Hugs, CatNipped CatNipped wrote: (snipping the Mutha-in-law, which may not be a bad idea...) > Oh my!! What a bit*h!! I would give you a bit*hy comeback for that (I was > overweight all of my life until I had gastric bypass surgery 6 months ago, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > people like that just aren't sensitive enough to relate the problem back to > themselves. I was simply too shocked, and too careful considering culture clash. Mama Singh is Chinese, Papa Singh or "Doc-Sahib" is from India, and both societies put a big thing on about respect for elders. Had Doc-Sahib been *really* Orthodox, I would have been made to partake in a ceremony the day after my wedding, involving bowing, touching the feet of the elders, and making them chapattis to show my industriousness and desire to serve. He takes Sikhism seriously, but recognizes that I'm not Indian too. He is more respectful of my Polish background than the Mutha-in-law; I've heard her comment in my presence and hearing that Poles run to fat. She wanted Louie, the firstborn and first son, to have a Catholic wedding and has a big problem that I turned Sikh and tries hard to bait me. I wanted to tell hers that Muthas-in-law tend to have fat heads, but I shut up out of respect. > > Two years ago she gave me a jacket three sizes too small, and told me > > infront of > > everyone to diet down to it. > > I hope you exchanged it for something you liked! The lipstick and blush fit beautifully! > > But I digress. Sure, I think a cat can get the sh*ts from pure stress > > alone. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and were worse during the day. They fought each other and growled and bit - > they were horrible!!! Aiyiyi!!! And you put up with this without tearing Mutha-in-law's head off? You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din! > > Great name! I think I need some because Stosh decided to show us who's > > boss by [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Isn't it though??! It does work, but I think Nature's Miracle works > better - the "Stink Out" just came in the package with the black light. Nature's Miracle is a Godsend. But what's this black light business? I associate them with neon posters and pot! > > Attacked?! Even worse. No wonder one of them got the sh*ts. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > middle of the floor and hiss/spit at them as if to say, "Bring it on > suckas!" MIL just stood there watching B**ch! > and I had to jump into the middle of > it - the biggest dog was growling, barking and snapping its jaws at Bandit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > out too. Bandit gave me a dirty look and licked her paw as if to say, "Aw, > you spoiled my fun, I was just about to have d*ggie for brunch!!" LOL Bandit probably would have made mincemeat of him. Cats are efficient little creatures, carrying their weapons concealed on their persons. I've seen 5-pound cats make hash of big, lumbering d*gs. I've learned to LOVE that censoring, BTW! > > Yeah. Get the Mutha-in-law to a hotel unless it's a major emergency. > > If she needs to come again she'll be told that the d*gs will be put in a > kennel at my vets - I can't have my cats, especially my 14-year-old, > stressed out like that again. Amen to that! Blessed be, Baha > I was simply too shocked, and too careful considering culture clash. Mama > Singh [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > heads, but > I shut up out of respect. Yeah, I understand, it's always better to *not* say something and regret that than to say something and regret it. You can't take back words that hurt and you're heaping good karma on yourself by being restrained. > The lipstick and blush fit beautifully! Good for you! > Aiyiyi!!! And you put up with this without tearing Mutha-in-law's head > off? > You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din! I did it for DH. I've been thinking a lot about him during all this (probably trying to work up a good mad so I can take my frustration out on someone! ;>), but the only fault I can find is that he's a bit, ahem, ergonomically challenged (that and the fact that he's too often right when we argue!!! ;>). He is the kindest, gentlest, most thoughtful, most intelligent, most witty and humorous (I could go on and on, but you get the picture) man I've ever known. I would go through a *lot* not to hurt his feelings in any way. > Nature's Miracle is a Godsend. But what's this black light business? I > associate > them with neon posters and pot! A black light in a dark room will make urine, blood, and semen flouresce. Crime scene investigators use it to find traces of blood and other bodily fluids. > Bandit probably would have made mincemeat of him. Cats are efficient > little > creatures, carrying their weapons concealed on their persons. I've seen > 5-pound > cats make hash of big, lumbering d*gs. I've learned to LOVE that > censoring, BTW! Yeah, but if that d*g had gotten past her claws and gotten his jaws around her body he could have killed her, so I couldn't take the chance. >> If she needs to come again she'll be told that the d*gs will be put in a >> kennel at my vets - I can't have my cats, especially my 14-year-old, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha Definitely, I (or DH) will let her know the groundrules over the phone before she comes next time. I've described a few other problems I'm having in other posts here. I think my poor babies are suffering post traumatic shock syndrome!! Hugs, CatNipped >I'm really PO'd that she treated me like a hotel maid - I did groceries for >her food (which she did not chip in for), I cooked her food, I cleaned her [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >scooped his box, I cleaned up after her dogs.... heck, even hotel maids >don't do all the stuff I did!!!!! If it helps, it doesn't sound as though she meant to be disrespectful - it sounds as though she's actually unskilled or unaccustomed to being tidy, or being a guest. You were extremely patient to put up with that, and it's a good thing it all ended before you blew up. :) > If it helps, it doesn't sound as though she meant to be disrespectful > - it sounds as though she's actually unskilled or unaccustomed to > being tidy, or being a guest. You were extremely patient to put up > with that, and it's a good thing it all ended before you blew up. :) See, that's what I think. I have to say she if very nice, but she acts as if she was not brought up in "polite society". I just think she doesn't know any better. If I thought she was doing all that on purpose I would have torn into her for treating me like that. Hugs, CatNipped >OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three >dogs and one cat... <snip> Sheesh!!! Girl, your MIL is stressing ME out. I feel extremely sorry for her cat, and even more so for you, your husband and your girls. I find it absolutely amazing that a woman like that could raise (from what I gather) such a wonderful son! I'm sure whoever had the accident on her way to the box will be just fine. You may not ever find out who it was, because it was (hopefully) an isolated incident. Maybe it happened out of the sheer relief kitty felt at them being gone. If MIL ever threatens to come back for another visit, why let your hubby have all the satisfaction of telling this babe 'how it is'. I'm sure he would be more than happy to share with you the delight of telling her "Oh, we'd LOVE to see your kitty again, she's welcome for as long as she'd like to stay!" "Dogs however are not allowed inside our house, but I'm sure the 4 of you will be comfortable out in the back yard." (Okay, I know that was mean, but I can't help it CatNipped, the woman stressed me out, and may have ruined popcorn for me.) -bonbon >>OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three >>dogs and one cat... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I find it absolutely amazing that a woman like that could raise (from > what I gather) such a wonderful son! Well, when he was about 12 or so she "gave up" on him and send him to live with his father. His step mother is a *LOT* like me - we got along extremely well, so I think he got most of his social skills from her. > I'm sure whoever had the accident on her way to the box will be just > fine. You may not ever find out who it was, because it was [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -bonbon I won't let her d*gs back in my house again. If she needs shelter from another storm she will be told that her d*gs will need to be kenneled with my vet!! Hugs, CatNipped > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > dogs and one cat... (big snip) I don't see why the cats couldn't get stress-induced diarrhea. We're sending purrs for the poor little pooper, along with rest-and-recover purrs for you. ------ Krista > I don't see why the cats couldn't get stress-induced diarrhea. We're > sending purrs for the poor little pooper, along with rest-and-recover > purrs for you. > > ------ > Krista Thanks for the purrs Krista - they are powerful things and I've seen them work before!! Hugs, CatNipped Stress is my best guess for the diarrhea, CNipped. It certainly is true that you and the kitties had just cause. You should take good care of both of you (and IMHO, show DH your post, too). Hugs for all to feel better soonest! Christine > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three > dogs and one cat... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > CatNipped > Stress is my best guess for the diarrhea, CNipped. It certainly is true > that you and the kitties had just cause. You should take good care of > both > of you (and IMHO, show DH your post, too). > Hugs for all to feel better soonest! > Christine Thanks Christine, I'm hoping things will settle down now. Hugs, CatNipped >Never again!! That woman will not set foot in this house again unless my >husband lays down some rules to her. The first one will be that her d*gs >will be confined to one room (hopefully one without carpet) or outside in >our LARGE, FENCED IN YARD, and she will do her fair share to help with the >housework. Sounds like a nasty bit of work. If you want, I shall make an all-purpose MIL effigy and next full moon, chant strange chants and dance strange dances all whilst mekkid round the willow tree in the garden ;-) Going back to cat stuff - stress-induced upsets are possible. I have to keep an eye on Waffles and Marble as Marble can bully her and she has periodically developed UTIs as a result. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > Sounds like a nasty bit of work. If you want, I shall make an all-purpose > MIL > effigy and next full moon, chant strange chants and dance strange dances > all > whilst mekkid round the willow tree in the garden ;-) LOL - I may just take you up on that offer!! ;> > Going back to cat stuff - stress-induced upsets are possible. I have to > keep an > eye on Waffles and Marble as Marble can bully her and she has periodically > developed UTIs as a result. > > Cheers, helen s Thanks Helen, I'm going to keep an eye on them to make sure they're all right in a day or two - if not it's off to the vet's with whomever has the upset tummy. Hugs, CatNipped > Sounds like a nasty bit of work. If you want, I shall make an all-purpose MIL > effigy and next full moon, chant strange chants and dance strange dances all > whilst mekkid round the willow tree in the garden ;-) JPEGS?!!! Pam S. >JPEGS?!!! > >Pam S. No wide-angle lens wide enough to get the nekkid acreage in shot I'm afraid ;-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > No wide-angle lens wide enough to get the nekkid acreage in shot I'm > afraid ;-) > > Cheers, helen s ROFLOL!! Helen, you are a stone cold trip!!! Hugs, CatNipped >ROFLOL!! Helen, you are a stone cold trip!!! > >Hugs, > >CatNipped Dunno what that means, but I'll take it as a compliment :-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > Dunno what that means, but I'll take it as a compliment :-) > > Cheers, helen s Definitely a compliment. It means you are a *riot*, you are *funny*, I *love* reading your posts! Hugs, CatNipped >Definitely a compliment. It means you are a *riot*, you are *funny*, I >*love* reading your posts! > >Hugs, > >CatNipped Why thank you ma'am (curtseys...) Cheers, helen s ;-) --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- >>Definitely a compliment. It means you are a *riot*, you are *funny*, I >>*love* reading your posts! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cheers, helen s ;-) Please say you're wearing clothes while curtseying. Please. Pam S. giggling >Please say you're wearing clothes while curtseying. Please. > >Pam S. giggling Put it this way, if I was nekkid, you'd be screaming as your brain fries and sanity departs ;-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- OK. I've been trying to be nice, but ... No worries. Multiple exposures are acceptable. Sam > >JPEGS?!!! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- >OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three >dogs and one cat... Yes, you were a wuss...once upon a time. But it sounds like you have learned your lesson. ;-) I wonder how those awful dogs treat her own declawed cat? Poor thing. Too bad you couldn't hide it in the back closet and tell her it got lost in the hurricane! Years ago, when my sister came to visit the first time with her mini poodle, who was not house trained, the first thing he did was run to my bedroom and anoint my bed. I was very upset and told my sister straight out that I didn't appreciate it, that my dog never did such things and i wasn't having it happen again. The poodle had to stay on the porch or in her car. And she accepted it fine and that is the way it went for ten years. My sister and I are still very good friends. But she knows and respects my position. Too bad your MIL doesn't know any better. Maybe it is time she had someone tell her the facts of social life. And TELL her to help you in the house work. Like, "you do the dusting while I do the vacuuming." Just hand her a pan of potatos and a knife and tell her to peel them for supper. She acts like a child. Treat her like one. she needs trainign just like a child does. Mega purrs for the time of the next hurricane visit. ;-)) -- CATherine >Mega purrs for the time of the next >hurricane visit. ;-)) I think a very good idea the next time there's a hurricane alert is for Baha's phone to be out of the wall socket... "Oh dear MIL, I'm *so* sorry we didn't get your calls, we had a fault on the phone line.. " Having to be respectful to one's elders is not an excuse for the elder to be disrespectful to you. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > >Mega purrs for the time of the next >>hurricane visit. ;-)) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Cheers, helen s CatNipped's phone - but yes, good idea Helen!! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > Yes, you were a wuss...once upon a time. But it sounds like you have > learned your lesson. ;-) I wonder how those awful dogs treat her own > declawed cat? Poor thing. Too bad you couldn't hide it in the back > closet and tell her it got lost in the hurricane! Yep. My mother was so busy teaching me how to be a gracious hostess, and how to make guests feel comfortable and welcome in my home, that she forgot to teach me how do deal with ungracious guests!! You'd think a nice, old-fashioned southern belle would not have been so remiss in the education of her daughter. ;> > Years ago, when my sister came to visit the first time with her mini > poodle, who was not house trained, the first thing he did was run to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > trainign just like a child does. Mega purrs for the time of the next > hurricane visit. ;-)) > CATherine If there is a next time (hurricane-caused, or just another visit), groudrules will be laid down beforehand by DH - the d*gs will will kennelled at the vet's. I started to think OK, maybe just confine them to a spare room or the back yard, but if they're there she will not abide by that rule, so it's kennelling or nothing. Hugs, CatNipped >> Yes, you were a wuss...once upon a time. But it sounds like you have >> learned your lesson. ;-) I wonder how those awful dogs treat her own [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >old-fashioned southern belle would not have been so remiss in the education >of her daughter. ;> It seems to me i have seen on tv how a Southern Belle deals. On the surface sounding so gracious, until you run the words through again and see the teeth and claws! An insult draped in velvet! ;-> -- CATherine > It seems to me i have seen on tv how a Southern Belle deals. On the > surface sounding so gracious, until you run the words through again > and see the teeth and claws! An insult draped in velvet! ;-> > > -- > CATherine LOL! Yeah, if you every hear a southern belle start a comment with "Bless your heart, you are so..." look out for the clobber that will follow!!! I don't know what it is about blessing people's hearts that is supposed to take the sting out of the put-down! Hugs, CatNipped >>OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her three >>dogs and one cat... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >for supper. She acts like a child. Treat her like one. she needs >trainign just like a child does. >Mega purrs for the time of the next >hurricane visit. ;-)) I agree. Sounds like MIL is a 'Natural Disaster' of her own. Ever since I read your post CatNipped, I've been worried sick about MIL's cat. Is there any way you can save the poor kitty from her and those hounds? I saddens me that common courtesy, like common sense, sometimes just __isn't__. -bonbon > I agree. Sounds like MIL is a 'Natural Disaster' of her own. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -bonbon I wish I could save Siskel, he's such a sweetie, but we can't afford another cat even if she would agree to surrender him. Plus he's male and my girls won't tolerate a male in their midst. Also, I would be afraid that my girls would hurt him since he doesn't have claws to defend himself (although it would be better than him being outside without claws). I did think about it, but it just isn't feasible. I did talk to her about keeping him inside, but with her three d*gs, that might be just as dangerous for him. Hugs, CatNipped The only time Soncek had diarrhoea was when I brought him home with me. I'm sure that was stress-related. Maybe you can wait a day or so and see what happens. Or phone the vet. Lots of best wishes and purrs for the kitties and hugs for you, CN, SignaturePolonca & Soncek <snip> > When I walked in the door to my bedroom I saw that one of my cats had had an > attack of diarrhea in a line leading up to the litter box - the poor baby [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > CatNipped > The only time Soncek had diarrhoea was when I brought him home with me. > I'm > sure that was stress-related. Maybe you can wait a day or so and see what > happens. Or phone the vet. > Lots of best wishes and purrs for the kitties and hugs for you, CN, The diarhea cleared up, but Jessie is still acting out - I'm going to try some feliway. Thanks Polonca! Hugs, CatNipped > OK, you all know about the problems I had with my MIL here with her > three dogs and one cat... {{{{{{CatNipped}}}}}} Give the cats and yourself a couple of days to get over the ordeal. Unless it's obvious which cat is unwell a vet visit is probaly unnecessary and is likely to cause more stress for you and them. Purrs for everything to settle down quickly and you soon get new flooring. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > {{{{{{CatNipped}}}}}} > > Give the cats and yourself a couple of days to get over the ordeal. > Unless it's obvious which cat is unwell a vet visit is probaly > unnecessary and is likely to cause more stress for you and them. Purrs > for everything to settle down quickly and you soon get new flooring. Thank you Adrian, you're quite right - I didn't think about the added stress of a vet's visit. They seem to be intestinally fine now, but Jessie is still acting out - I'm going to try some Feliway to see if that helps. Hugs, CatNipped |
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