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Mischief - 21 Sep 2004 03:39 GMT
Hey everyone,

I've been so busy with classes and work and trying to get the
newsletter it's been a little hectic.  I had to drop one of my classes
because it was getting so crazy.

So my best guy friend invites me over on Saturday.  I had just
finished a 7 am -4 pm shift so I was dead tired. He had cooked dinner
for me, gave me a much needed massage and even gave me a red rose.
Awww!!

Now, we tried dating years ago, and decided that we're better off as
friends, but it was a very nice gesture.  I came home and put the rose
in a vase on the kitchen table.

I woke up at 8 am on Sunday and went back to sleep and I thought I set
my alarm for 10 am.  I woke up at 1:45 pm.  oops.

So I start to head to the kitchen when what do I see on the living
room floor?

A red rose petal.............covered with teeth marks........

Yep that's right folks, there were a few petals on the table also
covered in teeth marks.  I did a quick internet check and they don't
seem to be toxic to cats.  Also it doesn't look like Mischief's eating
them, just chewing on them.

I jsut got home from a long day of classes and activites and found two
more chewed petals on the kitchen floor.

The rose is drooping but looks kinda ragged.

Now, mind you, just a few days ago, my roomie brought home a rose from
her boyfriend and did Mischief touch it?    NOPE, she's only
interested in what's MINE.

Of course, I am the one that  shoved her into a carrier last wednesday
and brought her to school where me and my classmates practiced
physical exams.  I was working on other animals, but my friends looked
in her ears, listened to her heart, felt for a femoral pulse and
palpated her organs.  we're almost through the class when I hear, "Uh,
Kristi, your cat just expressed her anal glands."

*sigh* not again.  She didn't stink up the classroom like she did the
previous week, but it still smelled.  I put her back into cage that we
have for guest animals and even gave her a piece of my chicken
sandwich.  She just glared.  Sheesh!

Guess she's taken her frustrations out on my poor rose.  

Ah well............

There was a cat at work named Gypsy that seemed really nice, but
turned PSYCHO when we tried to get blood from her.  It ended up the
doctor holding the head and the front legs, me holding the back legs
and another tech drawing the blood.  Then I held off the vein and
after another moment the doctor said, "On the count of 3, we let go,
ready?  1....2...."

Man the cat flipped out.  The next day when I opened the cage door to
put in a litter tray, she growled and slapped the tray out of my hand.
Yipes.....   I had to distract her with my left hand so I could slip
in the food dish with my right.  Damn.............

We're going to have two program cats at school soon.  We're waiting to
get the AC fixed in the cat room, so the cats can live there.  They
are littermates and their names are Brother and Sister.  :)

Okay, I gotta go.  My chinese take out has arrived and I have a ton of
homework and reading to do.

Take care,

Kristi
Karen Chuplis - 21 Sep 2004 04:04 GMT
> Hey everyone,
>
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> palpated her organs.  we're almost through the class when I hear, "Uh,
> Kristi, your cat just expressed her anal glands."

The perfect spot to bring up.... Pearl has expressed hers on my FOUR times
now! It always happens when I go to move her off my laptop. There must be a
trigger spot on her hip. I just go to scooch her a little and WHAM! an
incredible stink and there it is on my arm. I mean, I'm glad that at least
she doesn't have trouble and stuff, but I've got to learn to move her
differently!
Takayuki - 21 Sep 2004 06:02 GMT
>The perfect spot to bring up.... Pearl has expressed hers on my FOUR times
>now! It always happens when I go to move her off my laptop. There must be a
>trigger spot on her hip. I just go to scooch her a little and WHAM! an
>incredible stink and there it is on my arm. I mean, I'm glad that at least
>she doesn't have trouble and stuff, but I've got to learn to move her
>differently!

I've often wondered what that's like, getting the anal gland
expressed.  I've never seen any butt-juice from Betty.  Maybe the
glands express themselves if the cat has firm stools?
Karen Chuplis - 21 Sep 2004 12:58 GMT
>> The perfect spot to bring up.... Pearl has expressed hers on my FOUR times
>> now! It always happens when I go to move her off my laptop. There must be a
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> expressed.  I've never seen any butt-juice from Betty.  Maybe the
> glands express themselves if the cat has firm stools?

I've never had cats before that required any anal maintenaince! And this is
certainly a new one. With Pearl, I think it has something to do with how she
stands because of her bad leg.
Howard Berkowitz - 21 Sep 2004 06:18 GMT
> Hey everyone,
>
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> seem to be toxic to cats.  Also it doesn't look like Mischief's eating
> them, just chewing on them.

Can't generalize on toxicity, but roses are distinctly edible for
humans, unless they've been treated for something toxic. Rosewater is a
nice sweetener, and I occasionally put roses and marigolds in salads.
CatNipped - 21 Sep 2004 15:47 GMT
<snip>
> Of course, I am the one that  shoved her into a carrier last wednesday
> and brought her to school where me and my classmates practiced
> physical exams.  I was working on other animals, but my friends looked
> in her ears, listened to her heart, felt for a femoral pulse and
> palpated her organs.  we're almost through the class when I hear, "Uh,
> Kristi, your cat just expressed her anal glands."

Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone explain this to me???  I
don't think I've never had a cat do this (and I'm 52 and have been owned by
cats all of my life!!).  What is "expressing her anal glands"?

Hugs,

CatNipped
Kreisleriana - 21 Sep 2004 16:12 GMT
><snip>
>> Of course, I am the one that  shoved her into a carrier last wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>CatNipped

OK. here goes.  Cats have glands-- one on either side of their, excuse
the expression, anus  (that little puckered thing at the back they
stick in your face sometimes).  You can't really see them, so there's
no reason to know that they are there unless the vet mentions them.
These glands correspond to similar glands that skunks, ferrets and
civets have-- dogs, too-- and they produce a substance with a VERY
strong smell.  When animals sniff each other's butts, this is what
they are smelling.  It has a territorial and identifying function.

The glands' contents are usually emptied as part of defecating.  THis
is what gives some bowel movements a particular pungent smell.  This
is all part of kitty territory marking.  It's another way of saying
"Here I am."

But on rare occasions, when the cat gets very scared or nervous, and
tightens the sphincter muscles involuntarily, and the stinky stuff
comes shooting out.  Phhe---eeew!

Sometimes the glands don't empty normally, and they get overfilled and
impacted.  THe vet usually checks for this as part of a routine exam.
If he/she finds they are impacted, or even very full, the vet will
express them manually-- squeeze the stuff out.  This is done with a
cloth covering the area, because when that stuff hits the air, it
really stinks.  

It is important to have the glands regularly checked as part of the
routine kitty checkup, because impacted glands can become infected,
and that is really nasty.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
CatNipped - 21 Sep 2004 17:11 GMT
> It is important to have the glands regularly checked as part of the
> routine kitty checkup, because impacted glands can become infected,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Wow, sounds like something I'm glad I never had experience with.  Thanks for
the explanation Theresa!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mischief - 21 Sep 2004 19:38 GMT
I got this from a website.......

Every cat has two anal glands or sacs (1 gland on each side of the
anus).  These glands are occasionally refereed to as "scent glands",
because they enable the cat to mark its territory and to identify each
other.  We have all seen how cats greet each other by sniffing at the
other's rear.
        The anal sacs are normally expressed (emptied) by rectal
pressure during defecation.  The secretion from the anal glands is a
brownish liquid, although is can become thick, yellowish or creamy
looking.  The anal sacs can also be emptied by contraction of the anal
sphincter.  This  involuntary contraction can be due to the car being
upset, frightened or under pressure.

This goes the same for dogs as well.  That is why whenever we give a
dog a bath we express the anal glands manually.  The last thing you
want is to have a freshly cleaned dog express anal glands.

"Butt juice" is a good way to look at it.  And it's very stinky, you
don't really want to have that stuff on you if you can help it.

After Mischief expressed hers, my friend asked me, "Why didn't you
express them before you came?"  yeah, that's just what Mischief needs
is my finger up her rear.  I tried that once and Mischief did NOT like
it.

Kristi
Kreisleriana - 21 Sep 2004 19:55 GMT
>I got this from a website.......
>
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>
>Kristi

Stinky tells me to please not call that stuff "stinky."  He would
prefer it if we called it erm, "scentful."  ;)

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Mischief - 21 Sep 2004 22:47 GMT
heehehehehehe  scentful, that's a nice one

When one of the cats has made a "deposit" in the littler box and I
smell it, I have to ask,

"Mischief did you just make a stinky?"

or

"Phew!!  Someone made a big stinky!!!"

that's my cue to clean the box before it stinks up the whole bathroom.

Kristi
Karen - 21 Sep 2004 21:09 GMT
> I got this from a website.......
>
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> "Butt juice" is a good way to look at it.  And it's very stinky, you
> don't really want to have that stuff on you if you can help it.

If I could figure out where I touch that triggers Pearl, I'd just stick her
in the tub and pat her, but I still don't know what causes it exactly.

> After Mischief expressed hers, my friend asked me, "Why didn't you
> express them before you came?"  yeah, that's just what Mischief needs
> is my finger up her rear.  I tried that once and Mischief did NOT like
> it.
>
> Kristi
Christine Burel - 04 Oct 2004 14:56 GMT
> > I got this from a website.......
> >
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> >
> > Kristi

Karen, can you lure her down with a string or treat or something so you
don't have to pick her up?
Christine
Karen - 04 Oct 2004 15:14 GMT
> > > I got this from a website.......
> > >
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> don't have to pick her up?
> Christine

Heh. I just nudge her now. Although, it doesn't bother me for her to get it
out. I'd rather that than build up. Hasn't happened for a couple of weeks
now.
Karen - 21 Sep 2004 21:07 GMT
> <snip>
> > Of course, I am the one that  shoved her into a carrier last wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> CatNipped

It's very unpleasant. It's where stinky brown guck in a clear liquid is kept
and expressed while doing business usually. Some modern cats have trouble
getting it out and the glands can become infected. Sometimes the vet nees to
help. Cats like Pearl and Kristi's cat seem to be a very "light touch" as it
were and it comes shooting out. Ugh.
 
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