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Pat - 24 Nov 2005 04:32 GMT That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can no longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so grateful for the healing purrs from RPCA.
In other news, I found and hppe to buy a small house (still quite a bit larger than where I am now) that's for sale in the town nearest to me. I decided not to wait and rely on that low-interest USDA Rural Development loan I mentioned several months back, if I can get a loan through a local bank. It is just simpler and quicker this way, and there's so much less paperwork involved and the choices are better without all the restrictions like central heat being required, etc. I dislike central heat, anyway.
I'll be meeting with the loan officer this coming Monday, and if I am approved for the amount I need, and the house is acceptable to the lender at the price I offered, I will need to come up with around $4500 by around Christmas time. That will be quite a challenge, but I'm committed to doing it, even if it means selling my car and taking a cash advance on my one and only credit card, then applying for another to which I can transfer the balance and pay 0% interest on it for a year through one of those type of offers that constantly come in the mail.
I think the house will pass muster with the bank, but somewhat concerned about raising the downpayment in time. And I'll need still more cash to make the place kitty-safe, being that it's on a residential street in town (where there is traffic) and purchase appliances (stove, refrigerator, washer/dryer) which I do not own.
I've decided that if I get the house, I will enclose the whole backyard with a tall cedar fence with an electric wire at the top to prevent climb-overs and stone at the bottom to prevent dig-unders. Any cat that tries to climb over will have to be in contact with a one-foot-wide continuous row of grounded chickenwire fastened to the cedar just below the hot wire, when trying to go "over the top". I think the shock will discourage further attempts. And the fence will give me a modicum of privacy as well, and enable me to continue my usual practice of gardening in my birthday suit.
The best things about this place are:
(1) I'll no longer have to drive anywhere to go shopping for food; (2) It has a partial basement to hide out in during severe storms; (3) there are three bedrooms: one for sleeping, one for an office, one for storage; (4) there's a garage, and an attic which is well insulated; (5) It has large shade trees; (6) BROADBAND IS AVAILABLE!!!
If I do get it, I won't be moving until April. There are renters in it now, and they're good ones. They'd like to stay through the winter, and I'd like a few more months to save up for the fencing lumber and appliances.
Wish me luck? Money purrs are hereby entreated....
Thanks!!
Jeanne Hedge - 24 Nov 2005 04:48 GMT >I think the house will pass muster with the bank, but somewhat concerned >about raising the downpayment in time. And I'll need still more cash to make >the place kitty-safe, being that it's on a residential street in town (where >there is traffic) and purchase appliances (stove, refrigerator, >washer/dryer) which I do not own. I hope this works out for you!
I don't know if this is even possible with this house, but don't forget that you can make your bid include the purchase of the major appliances already there. When my parents bought their current house 2-3 years ago, their bid included payment for the stove and refrigerator that were already there. The then-current owners accepted, and so Mom and Dad didn't have to go out and buy those appliances separately, and they got them cheaper than if they'd had to buy new later.
Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
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sriddles@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 05:00 GMT > I don't know if this is even possible with this house, but don't > forget that you can make your bid include the purchase of the major [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha That's a good thught, Jeanne. Especially the range. It is pretty well expected around here that with the purchase of a house comes the cookstove also. Washers/dryers are "extras", but sometimes thrown in by the buyer too.
Sherry
Pat - 24 Nov 2005 05:03 GMT > I don't know if this is even possible with this house, but don't > forget that you can make your bid include the purchase of the major [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > appliances separately, and they got them cheaper than if they'd had to > buy new later. The applicances that are in the house belong to the renters.
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 15:20 GMT > > I don't know if this is even possible with this house, but don't > > forget that you can make your bid include the purchase of the major [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The applicances that are in the house belong to the renters. You probably already know this, but start lurking around your local freecycle. Also the classified ads. There are people all the time that move, and don't want to move their appliances; or they are renters who own appliances and buy a home with built-ins. You can pick up good refrigerators, washers/dryers, and stoves if you're lucky enough to run onto them. We found a Maytag washer/dryer SET for our son that looks practically new for $100.
Irulan - 24 Nov 2005 18:43 GMT Pat, another possibility is when you go get the loan include the amount for the appliances you will need to buy. I remember when we refinanced a few years back we added the amount that we needed to upgrade the house and stuff. That might also go your way. Good luck! Lily & her mama
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> >> I don't know if this is even possible with this house, but don't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The applicances that are in the house belong to the renters. sriddles@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 04:58 GMT > That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can no > longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so grateful for [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Thanks!! Good news on Abelard! Good luck with the house. We've bought houses through bank financing before. There are pros & cons. Itt's a *whole* lot less hassle & red tape, and you'll likely take possession much faster than the USDA loan. But the interest rate won't be nearly as good, which can sometimes mean a big difference in your payment amount. Banks usually don't escrow taxes & insurance, so you have to come up with the lump sum once a year on your own. Banks are way more lenient about the condition & amenities of the house. Anyway! Good luck!!
Sherry
Jo Firey - 24 Nov 2005 06:44 GMT > That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can > no longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Thanks!! Purrs on the way that you are able to make this work.
Is there anyplace there where you can buy reconditioned used appliances? I know they are available here and often come with some bit of a warranty. I used to have a tax client that had that sort of business in addition to doing appliance repairs - mostly for apartment complexes. And my next door neighbor does this now.
And get a fixed rate mortgage if at all possible. Variable just isn't worth the risk.
Jo
Adrian - 24 Nov 2005 10:48 GMT <snip>
> Wish me luck? Money purrs are hereby entreated.... > > Thanks!! Lots of good luck purrs on the way. Maybe some of Abelard's good luck will rub off onto you. :-)
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jmcquown - 24 Nov 2005 11:33 GMT > That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You > can no longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both > so grateful for the healing purrs from RPCA. Good news!
> In other news, I found and hppe to buy a small house (still quite a > bit larger than where I am now) that's for sale in the town nearest [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > without all the restrictions like central heat being required, etc. I > dislike central heat, anyway. Ahem, what kind of heat does it have, then? Radiator/steam heat? It must have *some* sort of heat. Don't trust space heaters in any way shape or form. Especially not with cats around.
> I think the house will pass muster with the bank, but somewhat > concerned about raising the downpayment in time. And I'll need still > more cash to make the place kitty-safe, being that it's on a > residential street in town (where there is traffic) and purchase > appliances (stove, refrigerator, washer/dryer) which I do not own. Most places include at least the stove, if not the fridge.
> I've decided that if I get the house, I will enclose the whole > backyard with a tall cedar fence with an electric wire at the top to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cedar just below the hot wire, when trying to go "over the top". I > think the shock will discourage further attempts. Sorry, but electric shock treatment never agreed with me. It just sounds cruel. Teach the cats to be indoor cats. It can be done, if you're willing.
And the fence will
> give me a modicum of privacy as well, and enable me to continue my > usual practice of gardening in my birthday suit. EEEEK!
> The best things about this place are: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks!! Pat - 24 Nov 2005 15:15 GMT > Ahem, what kind of heat does it have, then? Radiator/steam heat? It must > have *some* sort of heat. Yes, it does. A propane floor furnace. Radiators are great but hard to find around here.
> Don't trust space heaters in any way shape or > form. Especially not with cats around. Space heaters and woodstoves are all I've ever used, and the cats absolutely love them, too.
> Most places include at least the stove, if not the fridge. In this area, they don't. Not even in rental homes and apartments.
> Sorry, but electric shock treatment never agreed with me. It just sounds > cruel. Teach the cats to be indoor cats. It can be done, if you're > willing. Uh, Jill, there's a huge difference between an electric fence and "shock treatment".
> EEEEK! Hey, I know I'm ugly, but even I don't think I'm ugly enough to make another woman scream in horror!
Try some heavy outdoor work in the sun between May and October during full-blown menopause, without an air conditioned place to cool down in, and see how long you can keep it up with any clothing on your body....
jmcquown - 24 Nov 2005 16:09 GMT >> Ahem, what kind of heat does it have, then? Radiator/steam heat? >> It must have *some* sort of heat. > > Yes, it does. A propane floor furnace. Radiators are great but hard > to find around here. I lived in a place once with a gas floor heater; my ex-husband rented it. It was haunted. By a man who killed his wife. I didn't like the heat just coming up from the floor, not to mention the ghost wasn't Casper the Friendly.
>> Don't trust space heaters in any way shape or >> form. Especially not with cats around. > > Space heaters and woodstoves are all I've ever used, and the cats > absolutely love them, too. Persia loves it when I light a fire in the fireplace, but it's not something I'd let her near. I don't trust space heaters. How many horror stories do we hear every year about a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped over and started a fire that burned down homes? Especially during the holidays.
>> Most places include at least the stove, if not the fridge. > > In this area, they don't. Not even in rental homes and apartments. How odd. Around here, I have not only the stove, dishwasher, refrigerator (I traded the fridge for my own for $15 less a month) plus a full size washer & dryer. The last place I lived had a stackable washer & dryer but still the stove and fridge and dishwasher. I wouldn't move someplace that didn't at least have a stove and washer/dryer hookups.
>> Sorry, but electric shock treatment never agreed with me. It just >> sounds cruel. Teach the cats to be indoor cats. It can be done, if >> you're willing. > > Uh, Jill, there's a huge difference between an electric fence and > "shock treatment". Pat, I don't think so. Anything that shocks an animal is not pet friendly. You can train a cat to stay inside without that. Persia cried her head off for a couple of weeks when I wouldn't let her out to roam, even though she'd begged me in the bitter cold to let her in. Now, she doesn't want out. She asks out in her mesh enclosure but she doesn't want to stay out there unless I'm sitting out there with her.
>> EEEEK! > > Hey, I know I'm ugly, but even I don't think I'm ugly enough to make > another woman scream in horror! I never said you're ugly; but I don't want to see my neighbors walking around gardening in the nude. Okay, so you'll have a fence. I don't want to *know* my neighbors are walking around naked.
> Try some heavy outdoor work in the sun between May and October during > full-blown menopause, without an air conditioned place to cool down > in, and see how long you can keep it up with any clothing on your > body.... How about I just stay out of the sun and don't do gardening work? I'm not a gardening and chickens and horses kinda gal; I was raised in the city. I don't walk around nude except inside my house from the bathroom to the bedroom :)
Jill
Pat - 24 Nov 2005 16:53 GMT > How many horror stories do we hear every year about > a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped > over and started a fire that burned down homes? > Especially during the holidays. The kind of space heater I mean is attached to a wall or to the floor.
> Anything that shocks an animal is not pet friendly. It's a lot friendlier than letting them wander in traffic.
> You can train a cat to stay inside without that. But I don't *want* seven cats inside at all times.
Maybe you've never felt the shock of an electrified fence. It isn't painful, just unpleasant - enough that you wouldn't want to touch it again unless a monetary reward was involved.
> I never said you're ugly; but I don't want to see my neighbors walking > around gardening in the nude. Okay, so you'll have a fence. I don't want > to *know* my neighbors are walking around naked. I can think of a few people you might make an exception for....
jmcquown - 24 Nov 2005 19:44 GMT >> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > painful, just unpleasant - enough that you wouldn't want to touch it > again unless a monetary reward was involved. My uncle (gosh, he must be 90 by now) invented the "invisible fence" with the dog collar thing. That's how he made his first million. (Later in the 1960's he got into the computer business before computers were meant to be in peoples' homes and made another couple of million. Too bad I haven't seen the man since 1969, but then again, he has 6 kids to leave his millions to.)
>> I never said you're ugly; but I don't want to see my neighbors >> walking around gardening in the nude. Okay, so you'll have a fence. >> I don't want to *know* my neighbors are walking around naked. > > I can think of a few people you might make an exception for.... Only ONE, and even then when he and I sit around playing cards or backgammon we wear jammies :)
Jill
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 20:58 GMT > >> How many horror stories do we hear every year about > >> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Jill This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about as isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I did go out in my underwear to get my capri pants/blouse off the clothesline once. I ran smack into an entire seismograph crew who was working just over the fence.
Sherry
No More Retail - 24 Nov 2005 21:01 GMT What no pictures ;-)
>> >> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >> >> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Sherry Pat - 24 Nov 2005 21:18 GMT > This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about as > isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I did go > out in my underwear to get my capri pants/blouse off the clothesline > once. I ran smack into an entire seismograph crew who was working just > over the fence. How did that go?
jmcquown - 24 Nov 2005 21:21 GMT >> This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about >> as isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How did that go? LOLOL!
Jill
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 22:36 GMT > > This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about as > > isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I did go [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How did that go? Ha! Here's how it went. I was already too far away from the house to run back in. I was already nearly at the clothesline, so I waved, they waved. I got my clothes and went back into the house. Trying to act nonchalant, but all the time it felt surreal. Like I was having one of those dreams where you go to work and forget to put your blouse on.
Sherry
Adrian - 24 Nov 2005 21:21 GMT >>>> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >>>> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Sherry JPEGs ?
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Jo Firey - 24 Nov 2005 23:28 GMT >> >> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >> >> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Sherry Darn near anyone can get caught. DH is fairly modest. But he did manage to lock himself out of the house while putting clothes in the washing machine out in the garage while the girls and I were out of town. Wearing only a towel wrapped around his waist. (Something he would never have done it anyone else had been home) He ended up climbing in the bathroom window to get back in the house, fell into the bathtub and darn near killed himself.
Jo
Enfilade - 25 Nov 2005 02:04 GMT > > This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about as > > isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I did go > > out in my underwear to get my capri pants/blouse off the clothesline > > once. I ran smack into an entire seismograph crew who was working just > > over the fence. Gods, on my other news board, by this point someone would have posted an image reading
"This Thread Is Useless Without Pictures"
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Anyways, purrs for a nice new home.
--Fil
Pat - 25 Nov 2005 02:17 GMT >> > This exchange, I couldn't help chuckling. Pat, I live probably about as >> > isolated as you. While I never would go outside stark naked, I did go [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "This Thread Is Useless Without Pictures" Allright, I'll take some pics of the house next time I'm in town, and post them for y'all.
> Anyways, purrs for a nice new home. TY.
Adrian - 25 Nov 2005 09:28 GMT >>>>> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >>>>> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Jo I'm reminded of the scene from season one of 'Desperate Housewives', but I suspect your DH was less easy on the eye. ;o)
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jmcquown - 25 Nov 2005 13:50 GMT >>>>>> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >>>>>> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > I'm reminded of the scene from season one of 'Desperate Housewives', > but I suspect your DH was less easy on the eye. ;o) My brother managed to lock himself out of a hotel room while travelling on business. He'd been at the bar earlier (probably for too long!) then went up and ordered room service. For some reason he was wearing nothing when he set the tray back outside the door. <CLICK> the door shut behind him. Oh crap!
He should have worn a robe or a towel at least! He had to take the elevator down, hide behind a potted plant and PSSSST! at a bellboy and explain he needed a key to his room. How funny is that?!
Jill
sriddles@aol.com - 25 Nov 2005 14:22 GMT > >>>>>> How many horror stories do we hear every year about > >>>>>> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > Jill Oh, that is the absolute WORST! (But somehow, I bet hotel employees see it all! Bet he wasn't the first!)
Sherry
Adrian - 25 Nov 2005 15:00 GMT >>>>>>>> How many horror stories do we hear every year about >>>>>>>> a space heater that wasn't properly equipped tipped [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > Sherry He won't be the last either. ;o)
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Nan - 24 Nov 2005 15:02 GMT >That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can no >longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so grateful for [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >Thanks!! House ownership purrs are on the way. I sincerely hope that you get the loan and the house of your dreams.
Purrs and Hugs,
Nan and the furkids
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Pat - 24 Nov 2005 15:57 GMT > House ownership purrs are on the way. I sincerely hope that you get > the loan and the house of your dreams. Thanks, Nan.
I think the house of my dreams is never going to happen, but meanwhile, this little one I described will do nicely.
Irulan - 24 Nov 2005 18:41 GMT Thank goodness for Abelard being quite healthy now.
And we will purr and pray mightily that you can get that house that you want to buy for your peace of mind and well-being. Nothing but good thoughts going your way from us. Lily & her mama Jazz, RB
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> That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can > no longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Thanks!! polonca12000 - 24 Nov 2005 19:56 GMT I'm so glad to hear Abelard is ok. Lots of purrs and best wishes for everything to go well with the house, Polonca and Soncek
> That nasty business on Abelard's shoulder is completely finished. You can no > longer even find the spot where it was inflamed. We are both so grateful for > the healing purrs from RPCA. > > In other news, I found and hppe to buy a small house (still quite a bit > larger than where I am now) that's for sale in the town nearest to me. <snip>
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