Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
I've already acknowledged he is in early stages of altzheimers. He's a
lymphoma survivor and has also had two surgeries for blockages in his legs,
one of which didn't "take" so they did a vein graft from one leg and
rerouted the artery in the other one.
Mom said he hasn't left the house in 5 days. He just sits in bed, reading.
Dad has always been very active. At the very least he'll get up and watch
the news and read a book while watching TV (and call me to fuss at me about
my job situation). Mom says he doesn't even have the energy to do that.
She's worried about him. At the same time, I think she has resigned herself
to the fact that she's going to be a widow sometime soon. When I told her I
wished there was something I could do to help she said, "Jill, there's
nothing anyone can do." Fatalistic, if you get my drift.
Purrs please, for my dear old Dad... he's a pain in the a.s but I know I'm
going to lose him soon. Purrs for my Mom, too, who has been married to him
for over 50 years. But she's strong... she'll manage. I'll help her.
Jill
polonca12000 - 20 Nov 2005 10:22 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for your dad to regain his energy,
Polonca and Soncek
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
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> Mom said he hasn't left the house in 5 days. He just sits in bed, reading.
> Dad has always been very active. <snip>
meee - 22 Nov 2005 00:06 GMT
purrs for your dad...:( thinking of you

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> Lots of purrs and best wishes for your dad to regain his energy,
> Polonca and Soncek
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> > Mom said he hasn't left the house in 5 days. He just sits in bed, reading.
> > Dad has always been very active. <snip>
kilikini - 20 Nov 2005 10:54 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>
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>
> Jill
I just had a talk with my "kids" to send purrs your way. Purrs for Miss
Persia & Peaches, too, in case you end up relocating to help out.
kili
Adrian - 20 Nov 2005 12:47 GMT
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> Purrs please, for my dear old Dad... he's a pain in the a.s but I
> know I'm going to lose him soon. Purrs for my Mom, too, who has been
> married to him for over 50 years. But she's strong... she'll manage.
> I'll help her.
>
> Jill
Lots of purrs for your Dad, most of them are a pain in the a.s sometimes,
but you only get one. Purrs for your Mom too.

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Exocat - 20 Nov 2005 13:42 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
Purrs for a smooth transition when it becomes due time
Gordon & the FF
Kreisleriana - 20 Nov 2005 14:22 GMT
>Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>
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>Jill
Oh Jill. I am so sorry. I don't know of anything I am more afraid of,
for myself or my family, than Alzheimers. Purrs for your mom, and
you, too.
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Dan M - 20 Nov 2005 15:17 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
I've got all of the furkids revved up and purring their best for your dad
and the rest of your family.
Dan
sriddles@aol.com - 20 Nov 2005 15:37 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>
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>
> Jill
Purrs for you, your Mom, and your Dad too. Maybe his health problems
and not feeling well has caused depression to set in. Your mom is kind
of right, though. You can only do so much. We practically hog-tied my
father and took him to a geriatric psychiatrist. They gave him Effexor
and it worked *wonders*. Until he decided six months ago he wasn't
going to take it anymore. Now he is worse than he was before. I can't
make him take his meds. You just try the best you can. Good luck.
Sherry
MaryL - 20 Nov 2005 15:39 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>
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> one of which didn't "take" so they did a vein graft from one leg and
> rerouted the artery in the other one.
<snip>
> Jill
The one type of "interference" I would recommend for you and your siblings
is to *insist* that your father have a complete medical checkup. You can't
simply assume that he has Alzheimer's unless he has had that diagnosis
(which is still based on an evaluation because AFAIK there still is no
"test" for Alzheimer's). However, there are many other medical conditions
that can cause similar problems, and your reference to previous surgeries
could be a indicator of some of them (poor circulation, for example, or
ischemic strokes). Make sure he is checked to rule out the possibility of
something that could be treated or at least delayed.
I know how hard this is. My father had triple bypass surgery when that was
still a "new" procedure but lived 25 years. Each trip to the hospital was
painful for all of us and reminded us of how short life is.
MaryL
sriddles@aol.com - 20 Nov 2005 15:44 GMT
> The one type of "interference" I would recommend for you and your siblings
> is to *insist* that your father have a complete medical checkup. You can't
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> could be a indicator of some of them (poor circulation, for example, or
> ischemic strokes).
That is a good point, Mary. Especially when vascular problems are
already present in the legs, the carotid artery can become occluded and
it really impairs the person's ability to think clearly. Symptoms are a
lot like alzheimers.
Sherry
jmcquown - 20 Nov 2005 16:16 GMT
>> The one type of "interference" I would recommend for you and your
>> siblings is to *insist* that your father have a complete medical
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>
> Sherry
Mom had laser surgery to clear the blockage in her carotid artery about 6
months ago. For a long time the surgeons were afraid to operate for fear it
would cause the clot to break up and go into her brain and cause a stroke.
But they did it and it worked wonders and she's fine and dandy and pretty
spry at age 79.
Dad doesn't seem to have any blockages like that. He's just 'elt' (as my
Scottish grandmother used to say).
Jill
jmcquown - 20 Nov 2005 16:10 GMT
>> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>>
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> has had that diagnosis (which is still based on an evaluation because
> AFAIK there still is no "test" for Alzheimer's).
With all due respect... he's 81 years old and we know he is not as cognizant
as he used to be. He repeats himself constantly and forgets that he has
already told me things to the point where he'll call and tell me 3-5 times
over again.
However, there are
> many other medical conditions that can cause similar problems, and
> your reference to previous surgeries could be a indicator of some of
> them (poor circulation, for example, or ischemic strokes).
Definitely poor circulation and possible small strokes, although he can
still get around but... he's using a cane after the surgery in his leg. Mom
had the same surgery 10-12 years ago and she's doing fine. Dad isn't. He
insisted she get out and walk around but he won't take the same advice for
himself.
> he is checked to rule out the possibility of something that could be
> treated or at least delayed.
He goes to the doctor once a month (mom drives him, thank goodness).
> I know how hard this is. My father had triple bypass surgery when
> that was still a "new" procedure but lived 25 years. Each trip to
> the hospital was painful for all of us and reminded us of how short
> life is.
>
> MaryL
LOL! I'm sorry to laugh, but my boyfriend had quintuple bypass surgery in
2004. He's 59 years young (I'm 45). I hope John lasts another 25 years but
if he doesn't I'll blame myself for reasons which are best not discussed
here! <EBG>
Jill
MaryL - 20 Nov 2005 16:37 GMT
>>> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>>>
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> already told me things to the point where he'll call and tell me 3-5 times
> over again.
Yes, this is very common in the elderly. My mother is 89 and has lost a
great deal of cognition and short-term memory. However, she can describe in
great (and accurate) detail some events from many years ago. I really wasn't
trying to be obnoxious, although I get the impression from your reply that
it appeared that way to you. I simply know that there are some forms of
dementia and other illnesses of the elderly that can at least be allievated
somewhat, and many people are not aware of it.
> However, there are
>> many other medical conditions that can cause similar problems, and
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>>
> He goes to the doctor once a month (mom drives him, thank goodness).
That's good and answers my concern. I thought from your message that
nothing at all was being done, possibly because he wouldn't accept or
possibly because your mother was fatalistic about it.
>> I know how hard this is. My father had triple bypass surgery when
>> that was still a "new" procedure but lived 25 years. Each trip to
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>
> Jill
The reason I mentioned 25 years is that my father had his bypass surgery
when it was literally in its "infancy." The surgery was performed by the
same medical team that originated it. At the time, they said they "hoped"
to be able to give him 5 years, but instead he lived 25 years and it was a
far better-quality 25 years than he had for a few years before the surgery.
My father was 52 when the first surgery was performed.
MaryL
Irulan - 20 Nov 2005 16:39 GMT
Purrs and prayers everything goes well for everyone.
Lily & her mama
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> Jill
wafflycat - 20 Nov 2005 16:54 GMT
> Purrs please, for my dear old Dad... he's a pain in the a.s but I know I'm
> going to lose him soon. Purrs for my Mom, too, who has been married to
> him
> for over 50 years. But she's strong... she'll manage. I'll help her.
>
> Jill
Many vibes heading across the pond to your Dad.
helen s
Christina Websell - 20 Nov 2005 17:36 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
>
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> about
> my job situation). Mom says he doesn't even have the energy to do that.
Check with his doc that he hasn't got clinical depression. What you
describe is typical.
Tweed
ann791 - 20 Nov 2005 19:44 GMT
Purrs on the way for your parents.
Ann

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> Jill
PatM - 20 Nov 2005 20:59 GMT
Ah, Jill. I'm so sorry. It's hard to watch someone close to you who
has been active and interested in things become lethargic, depressed or
hurting. My mom has been in ICU for almost 2 weeks now, so I do
understand. She was independent and active and now just lays there
trailing wires and tubes. Prayers for your dad and for your mom...and
for you.
-PatM
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 20 Nov 2005 21:34 GMT
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>
>Jill
You got it, Jill. Purrs on the way for everyone in this difficult
situation.
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>Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
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>
>Jill
Mega purrs are on the way for your mom and dad. It's hard to watch a
loved one go down hill, and even harder to be as far away as you are
and get all of the news second hand. I take it he hasn't been seen by
a doctor?
Purrs and Hugs,
Nan and the furkids
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Sam Nash - 20 Nov 2005 23:19 GMT
> Purrs please, for my dear old Dad... he's a pain in the a.s but I know I'm
> going to lose him soon. Purrs for my Mom, too, who has been married to
> him
> for over 50 years. But she's strong... she'll manage. I'll help her.
>
> Jill
Purrs and prayers for your Dad, your Mom, and yourself.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
CatNipped - 21 Nov 2005 13:41 GMT
Purrs on the way that it is nothing but the winter doldrums getting your
father down!
Hugs,
CatNipped
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> Jill
Cheryl - 22 Nov 2005 03:13 GMT
> Mom called me yesterday and said my dad is "not doing well".
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> Jill
Purrs for all of you. I hope that you guys can make peace. I know
how hard that can be, they sure don't make it easy sometimes.

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