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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2005Poetic Justice - A judge who loves animals
Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751  SignatureShirleyB, Rexie and Loki’s Mom <To Reply by email: remove 'nicks'> Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ Pictures of Loki can be seen at: http://cards.webshots.com/invite/pickup/107540666HmHQ/album/485519812EYwKMs And Our HOMEPAGE is: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! I'm going to be super nice about this... but this is not justice... It's called stooping to someone else's level I totally agree abandoning an animal is cruel and deserves punishment but I don't have much tolerance for hot headed judges. 2 wrongs don't make a right :) >> Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > I'm going to be super nice about this... > but this is not justice... > It's called stooping to someone else's level This one does seem a bit... impulsive. We all want to mete out eye- for-an-eye punishments, and at first it seems satisfying to think about. But when it comes to actually doing it, I don't believe it really creates justice. Usually it just breeds hatred and escalates the problem. Now, the sentence where he required bunch of teenagers who'd vandalized a schoolbus to organize a picnic for some grade school kids - that was a brilliant idea. The grade school kids in question didn't get to go on their school picnic because of the vandalism. That seems like a really good, constructive sentence, it makes a reparation to the victims, and if the teenagers are open to learning, it could teach them a lesson on the consequences of seemingly harmless pranks. Why didn't he order this woman to spend 90 days volunteer work in an animal shelter, doing nothing but cleaning out kitty litter boxes? Joyce PS - I don't really get the one where a guy had to stand on a street corner next to a pig. Huh? How does that constitute punishment?? Yeah, I guess you're all right, it just struck me as ironic. But I agree with your suggestion (below) as to what COULD have been done. ShirleyB, Rexie and Loki’s Mom <To Reply by email: remove 'nicks'> Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ Pictures of Loki can be seen at: http://cards.webshots.com/invite/pickup/107540666HmHQ/album/485519812EYwKMs And Our HOMEPAGE is: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net eloquently related the following on 11/17/2005 9:26 PM: > Why didn't he order this woman to spend 90 days volunteer work in an > animal shelter, doing nothing but cleaning out kitty litter boxes? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > PS - I don't really get the one where a guy had to stand on a street > corner next to a pig. Huh? How does that constitute punishment?? > >> Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Joyce I don't think that would do much except foster a resentment of cats. I really doubt that you can teach people responsibility that way, if they don't have it in the first place. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > I don't think that would do much except foster a resentment of cats. > I really doubt that you can teach people responsibility that way, if > they don't have it in the first place. I think the judge was attempting to teach this woman sympathy/empathy so that she would have a conscience before doing such a thing again. The risk angle hadn't occured to me originally. Then again, given that this is an actual sentence, someone would presumably be nearby guarding her. This would be entirely a punishment of the mind. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Good thing I don't abandon kittens. As a survivalist, I spend nights in the woods with no food, no light, and no shelter other than what I make myself out of what I find... ...for FUN. --Fil (and Smokey, feline anti-survivalist. "Nature sucks. I'm going to spend the rest of my life on my back on the couch.") > Good thing I don't abandon kittens. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (and Smokey, feline anti-survivalist. "Nature sucks. I'm going to > spend the rest of my life on my back on the couch.") LOL - go Smokey! Susan M Otis and Chester > As survivalist, I spend nights in the woods with no food, no light, > and no shelter other than what I make myself out of what I find... > > ...for FUN. oh, you do it for fun You ever eat a grub? > Then again, given that this is an actual sentence, someone would > presumably be nearby guarding her. This would be entirely a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca lets follow this...there is no way it will be carried out she will appeal it and win, the judge knew this when he gave the sentence she will not be abandoned, it will be appealed and overturned. If it ain't, I'll jump off the earth Even though she deserves punishment; I agree let the b@tch starve and be cold for a to learn how it feels That judge has left himself in a serious situation if anything happens to that woman he is going to faces charges of endangerment and possible civil actions for the endangerment. Worse he will loss his seat as a judge if any thing happens He should have made her pay the fine and do the 90 days taking her freedom away would have been a better punishment > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > > Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens > http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 I wish it was *in addition* to jail time. > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > > Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens > http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 Not nearly severe enough. One lousy night? Knowing it would be over in the morning? Wearing warm clothes. No predators? Not even enough time to get mildly hungry or thirsty or properly scared. Jo No predators?> Jo Good God man, what the heck is wrong with you hold on, I'll be right back... Ill even time myself... 11:33 now 11:33 Im back http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-45,G GLG:en&q=woman+raped+beaten+park No Predators? I cannot imagine your mindset, the burden of self hate for one, as well as for other people. Dang...think about what you're saying you think that woman should have her liver eaten? Very very warped all of you who think this was fair. HEY! CUTE! BUT not justice. > HEY! CUTE! BUT not justice. Thing is...we are civil..we dispense punishment but NOT to satisfy our anger. If we cannot do this, we should not be on a bench. You all hold to purrs regularly purrs and prayers...sometimes I can't tell the difference. So if you hold to prayers, you also know that you will judge angels If we cannot handle an earthly matter how will we judge angels. The judge was wrong in this. He should have said. "I would like to abandon you into the woods, but being civil as we are"..."I will not"... Humans are stolen everyday! They are bought and sold as merchandise. Missing women of whom AGE is no respect of persons. I have not time or tolerance for the kind of hate you are spueing here. This was not justice! get a whiff of this! http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-4 5%2CGGLG%3Aen&tab=in&q=woman+tortured+california That is your mother, your sister, your daughters out there. I SAID IT BEFORE i SAY IT AGAIN Get your head outcha a.ses! wake up and smell the coffee! otherwise I may stop gracing you with my good sense of humore and wisdom ;) > No predators?> Jo > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-45,G GLG:en&q=woman+raped+beaten+park No > Predators? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > HEY! CUTE! BUT not justice. You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, you are right, is not justice. > You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. > And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, > you are right, is not justice. Have you noticed we have suddenly acquired about a dozen posters who would obviously be happier in some other newsgroup, and seem bent upon destroying the community we have always had here? My suggestions for your kill-files: neverhirelocalmen No More Retail Prozack zuzu22@webtv.net whitershadeofpale cybercat mange@merde.com Coldshot -L. There are others who aren't always the most considerazte of posters, but I doubt any of us would miss any of those I've listed! > > You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. > > And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > posters, but I doubt any of us would miss any of those I've > listed! you forgot "Scratch" you dumbass! > My suggestions for your kill-files: > No More Retail He's not a troll! He's new to the group from my perspective, having been gone a while and just returned, but I can see that he's not here to cause trouble. (I apologize, "Retail", but I don't know your name. :)) > zuzu22@webtv.net Megan can have a harsh style of expressing her opinion, but she's certainly no troll. Joyce My real name Joyce is Matthew thank you for the no troll comment you are right very new joined a few weeks after the hurricanes let them do what every they want All he did was get added to mine No More Retail wrote: > My real name Joyce is Matthew > thank you for the no troll comment you are right very new joined a > few weeks after the hurricanes > let them do what every they want All he did was get added to mine I realise you're not a troll, but you do have a habit of responding to them. Also you reply to post without quotes or references making it very difficult sometimes to know what you're talking about. It is obvious you care about cats and do what you can to help them, I just wish you could ignore the trolls. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > No More Retail wrote: > > My real name Joyce is Matthew [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > A House is not a home, without a cat. > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk you ever stop to think it's not about "trolls" but a few hateful a.s smart mouthed frigid bitches? wtf does cats have to do with this group? BUTTER MY a.s AND CALL ME A BISCUIT! > wtf does cats have to do with this group? W-e-l-l-l..... the newsgroup title IS "rec.pets.CATS.anecdotes", isn't it? (But obviously one cannot expect people of your limited intellectual capacities to comprehend the written word.) And you call us trolls makes us wonder about you I do ignore the trolls or which ones people you consider trolls are you talking about I tell people don't feed the trolls and kill fill them and if they do respond to < snipe > the post so we don't have to read it And I will try to remember to keep the post that I respond to in it for you people with news readers In outlook express I hit reply to group and the post I want to respond to and it post right below the post :-) > No More Retail wrote: >> My real name Joyce is Matthew [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It is obvious you care about cats and do what you can to help them, I just > wish you could ignore the trolls. I don't know what your problem with us is but you can do want ever you want but you won't be missed >> You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. >> And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > There are others who aren't always the most considerazte of posters, but I > doubt any of us would miss any of those I've listed! > There are others who aren't always the most considerazte of > posters, but I doubt any of us would miss any of those I've > listed! Hi I'm new here... If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing with these alleged trolls... getcha self and enima! a big hot enima! and go take a big back woods sh.t! YULE FEEL SO MUCH BETTER If you do it right, you might even pass that bug UP YOUR a.s! ROFLMAO Welcome to the group > ROFLMAO > > Welcome to the group Well Thank You! You sound like a man with money! I own and run wholesale retail companies in Orlando, Fl I got a little enough to pay for lunch > If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing > with these > alleged trolls... Welcome to the list! > > If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing > > with these > > alleged trolls... > > Welcome to the list! *Plonk* I agree EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) welcome to the kill file list for being stupid and stuck up > > > If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing > > > with these [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > *Plonk* "You so studly with that killfile. :') Meanwhile, killfiles are for people who lack the self-control to simply pass over what they don't want to read. I never use them, but I understand why a twit like you does. " -- MaryS./Topaz/cybercat/Lumpy, Jan 21, 2005 ref: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/fe3e824568616811?d mode=source -L. > > > > If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing > > > > with these [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- MaryS./Topaz/cybercat/Lumpy, Jan 21, 2005 > ref: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/fe3e824568616811?d mode=source > -L. Using my killfile? Is that what you think I was doing? Think harder, chubs. > > If I'm reading this right, I think the simplest thing to do in dealing > > with these > > alleged trolls... > > Welcome to the list! thank GOD Im not married to you... Mmmmm that just set my feet a dancin' Thank I'll do a little jig <waving both hands in the air> Thank you JESUS... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! PRAISE THE LORD! HALLELUYAH!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! >Have you noticed we have suddenly acquired about a dozen >posters who would obviously be happier in some other [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Coldshot >-L. I like the posters in this list, that I recognize. Of course, I like you too, Evelyn, as you know. ;) I like everyone me and Megan don't agree on things but that what makes life interesting I got nothing against no one I look at it like this don't like me ther eis the door don't let it hit you where the good lord split ya >> You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. >> And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Coldshot > -L. Not as many as you think as neverhire, prozack, whiteshade, and coldshot all seem to be the same person - or at least they have the same nntp-posting-host ip address. You can add hairball_dujour as well. It seems like Barry whatever his real name is. Is at it again. > > You are right. It would only be justice if it were for several months. > > And she was a baby. People who do this HAVE NO CONCEPT. But one night, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > newsgroup, and seem bent upon destroying the community we > have always had here? Yes, God for bid someone new would have the nerve to move to Stepford... Seriously, you people need an enema. -L. >Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > >Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens >http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 In order to have 33 kittens at one time, it sounds like she was running a kitten farm, then decided to abandon the project and kittens. I hope the judge also ruled that she couldn't breed lots more kittens which would then be neglected or abandoned. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! A judge after the "Mikado's" own heart! (For non-G&S fans, he's the one who sings about "making the punishment fit the crime" in that operetta.) > Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens > http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 What a great judge! SignatureJoy **Don't believe everything you think** > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > > Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens > http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 http://cards.webshots.com/invite/pickup/107540666HmHQ/album/485519812EYwKMs > And Our HOMEPAGE is: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com > Anybody see the below from ABC News? I love it! > > Woman Ordered to Spend Night in Woods for Abandoning Kittens > http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1322751 I think the sentence was too lenient. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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