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evil B*st*rd Tom Cat!! just kidding....

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meee - 15 Nov 2005 00:52 GMT
well, I've discovered the father of Jasmine's kittens....as I was blithely
wandering along with my children on our walk, what did I see but AN ORANGE
CAT!!! Definitely orange. not grey. not black. but orange. Very Suspicious,
said I , remembering what the vet had said about '90% of orange tabbies
being male and Quite Rare'.....So I just sat there looking at him, and he
sat there looking at me, for about five minutes, me calling him nasty names
such as 'you evil little bugger' in a friendly way of course.....then went
home and laughed myself silly. as jasmine is mongrelish, the only
possibility for her popping out four orange and white kittens was that they
were fathered by an orange cat. He was under his owner's car, and flea
collared, so unless he is spayed, which it's entirely likely he's not, I
think we have a winner!!!
   Note on Jasmine and the kittens; they are growing well, and starting to
crawl around a lot more, able to hold their heads up and hiss at me when I
go in for a drool....did you know that when a kitten spits, it sounds like a
sneeze and they look remarkably silly, and are totally unaware of their own
sillyness, being convinced that they are being Very Fierce!? Jasmine is
gaining weight well, she lost a bit of condition after she gave birth as she
went off her food for a few days, but I'm feeding her kitten kibbles, meat
or fish every night and plenty of water. I found the tinned foods to be
pointless and feeding her kitten kibble and raw or cooked meat is much
better for her by the look of it.
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mlbriggs - 15 Nov 2005 05:55 GMT
> well, I've discovered the father of Jasmine's kittens....as I was blithely
> wandering along with my children on our walk, what did I see but AN ORANGE
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> foods to be pointless and feeding her kitten kibble and raw or cooked meat
> is much better for her by the look of it.

FYI You cannot "spay" a tomcat  --  you can "castrate"him.  Yellow,
orange and reddish cats are not rare.   We had an orange tom when I was a
teenager.  He weighed about 20 pounds.  He insisted on going out at night
in all kinds of weather.   We also acquired an orange stray who obviously
was one of his offspring.  We took the kitten to be castrated but the Vet
bungled the job and the kitten died.  This was many, many years ago.  MLB
Gracecat - 15 Nov 2005 13:27 GMT
"mlbriggs" <mlbriggs@nospam.com> wrote in message >
> FYI You cannot "spay" a tomcat  --  you can "castrate"him.  Yellow,
> orange and reddish cats are not rare.   We had an orange tom when I was a
> teenager.  He weighed about 20 pounds.  He insisted on going out at night
> in all kinds of weather.   We also acquired an orange stray who obviously
> was one of his offspring.  We took the kitten to be castrated but the Vet
> bungled the job and the kitten died.  This was many, many years ago.  MLB

If I remember my childhood correctly, in "alley cats" or just your typical
barn cat, color patterns and longhair/shorthair wasn't any proof of much.
When our barn cat had kittens (I was 8-11ish, out of my control) she
frequently had a mixed batch and this was over four or five years and almost
always had one orange boy out of the bunch, right next to a couple tuxedo's
and maybe a calico or seal point.

Grace
Kreisleriana - 15 Nov 2005 15:04 GMT
>"mlbriggs" <mlbriggs@nospam.com> wrote in message >
>> FYI You cannot "spay" a tomcat  --  you can "castrate"him.  Yellow,
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>
>Grace

Cat color genetics makes my head explode.  Any single "alley cat"
represents such an accumulation of color genes that only Bast and a
real expert could predict what will come out of a random mating.

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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wafflycat - 15 Nov 2005 14:41 GMT
>> well, I've discovered the father of Jasmine's kittens....as I was
>> blithely
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> owner's car, and flea collared, so unless he is spayed, which it's
>> entirely likely he's not, I think we have a winner!!!

Male orange (ginger as we call them in the UK) tabbies are not at all rare.
What are rare are ginger tabby females. Plus bear in mind that kittens in a
litter can have different fathers.

Cheers, helne s
Kreisleriana - 15 Nov 2005 14:56 GMT
>> well, I've discovered the father of Jasmine's kittens....as I was blithely
>> wandering along with my children on our walk, what did I see but AN ORANGE
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>was one of his offspring.  We took the kitten to be castrated but the Vet
>bungled the job and the kitten died.  This was many, many years ago.  MLB

It is female orange cats that are rare.  As the vet said, about 90% of
all orange cats are male-- but male orange cats aren't rare, they're
pretty common.

Theresa
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Nov 2005 23:56 GMT
> It is female orange cats that are rare.  As the vet said, about 90% of
> all orange cats are male

Hmm... I've read that it's 75% males. And I have known a few orange
female cats in my life, so they don't seem extremely rare. I'd buy that
25% of orange cats are female. But I'll have to poke around again on
the cat-color genetics websites to be sure.

Speaking of cat-color genetics, the other night I was watching one of
those true-story shows on Animal Planet. A woman was telling a story
about her cat, and kept referring to the cat as "he". But the cat shown
on the screen was a calico! I know there are the very rare calico males
out there, but more likely, the people who produced the show had no idea
what was what. You know how they dramatize a true story with stand-in
human and animal actors, while the real person tells the story in a
voice-over. So the real woman's cat probably was a male, but they chose
a calico to "play the role" in the dramatization. Duh!!

Joyce
Lesley - 15 Nov 2005 13:41 GMT
did you know that when a kitten spits, it sounds like a
> sneeze and they look remarkably silly, and are totally unaware of their own
> sillyness, being convinced that they are being Very Fierce!?

Awwww....

I loved it when Redunzel and Sarrasine first discovered they could
fluff their tails up, they walked around for ages with tails fluffed up
just because they could and they thought they looked tough!

Lesley

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Kreisleriana - 15 Nov 2005 15:05 GMT
>did you know that when a kitten spits, it sounds like a
>> sneeze and they look remarkably silly, and are totally unaware of their own
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Dante is very big on the puffed-up stiff-legged sideways-leaping
maneuver. ;)

Theresa
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Karen - 15 Nov 2005 15:09 GMT
> >did you know that when a kitten spits, it sounds like a
> >> sneeze and they look remarkably silly, and are totally unaware of their own
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Dante is very big on the puffed-up stiff-legged sideways-leaping
> maneuver. ;)

Oh I love that one.
Kreisleriana - 15 Nov 2005 15:13 GMT
>> >did you know that when a kitten spits, it sounds like a
>> >> sneeze and they look remarkably silly, and are totally unaware of their
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>
>Oh I love that one.

He has decided that the ultimate smart-a.s thing to do to Stinky is to
leap over him.  YAAAAAAAH!!  ;)

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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Marina - 15 Nov 2005 16:43 GMT
> He has decided that the ultimate smart-a.s thing to do to Stinky is to
> leap over him.  YAAAAAAAH!!  ;)

LOL! Miranda agrees. That's the only way she ever challenges Frank. She
jumps over him. Then she swaggers off - 'take that!'

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Dan M - 16 Nov 2005 19:22 GMT
> He has decided that the ultimate smart-a.s thing to do to Stinky is to
> leap over him.  YAAAAAAAH!!  ;)
>
> Theresa

Ranger has figured that out too. He loves to run up to one of his fur-sibs
and leap over the top of them.

His favorite activity is to wait until a kitty is walking down the hallway
from the living room towards the bedroom. He stands on top of the covered
litter box in the living room, gets all wound up, and makes a HUGE LEAP,
soaring over the top of the unsuspecting kitty and landing easily 6 or 8
feet down the hallway. He loves to make the other kitties jump by doing
that!

Harri does it on occasion too, but its harder for her since she's so much
smaller than Ranger.

Dan
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Nov 2005 23:45 GMT
> Dante is very big on the puffed-up stiff-legged sideways-leaping
> maneuver. ;)

But of course, you never have your video camera ready when he does it,
right? :)
Kreisleriana - 16 Nov 2005 00:15 GMT
> > Dante is very big on the puffed-up stiff-legged sideways-leaping
> > maneuver. ;)
>
>But of course, you never have your video camera ready when he does it,
>right? :)

I never have a video camera, period. ;)

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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Enfilade - 15 Nov 2005 15:43 GMT
> well, I've discovered the father of Jasmine's kittens....as I was blithely
> wandering along with my children on our walk, what did I see but AN ORANGE
> CAT!!! Definitely orange. not grey. not black. but orange.

*plays pimp music?*

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