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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2005Abelard has a tumor
Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not normal so off to TED we went. He doesn't want to remove it unless it gets bigger, so I'll be watching it closely. On the way home it occurred to me to look into the possibility that Frontline could have caused this. The cats have all gotten Frontline every month since April, unlike previous years when I did not treat them for fleas regularly. And this thing just sprang up to a noticeable size since the recent Frontline treatment which was done Friday or Saturday. Has anyone heard of any cancers that were related to Frontline? In any event, no more Frontline for Abelard, just in case. Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Purring away. "Tumor" literally means swelling rather than cancer. Was cancer established by biopsy, or is it possible this is a local tissue reaction, perhaps to Frontline? > Purring away. "Tumor" literally means swelling rather than cancer. Was > cancer established by biopsy, or is it possible this is a local tissue > reaction, perhaps to Frontline? TED said he didn't want to "invade" the growth to do a biopsy, which I suggested. He was able to feel that it is under the skin, it's a growth in the muscle rather than a cyst or a reaction to a bite or something. > > Purring away. "Tumor" literally means swelling rather than cancer. Was > > cancer established by biopsy, or is it possible this is a local tissue [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > suggested. He was able to feel that it is under the skin, it's a growth in > the muscle rather than a cyst or a reaction to a bite or something. Pat, that just doesn't sound right. I've taken Yoda in twice for tumors. The vet suspected they were benign fatty tumors, which they did turn out to be, but he always insisted on a biopsy anyway. It is just worrisome to wait, thinking it *might* be cancerous and early removal could stop it from spreading. Is he waiting to see if it is going to grow bigger or what? Purrs for the best possible outcome. Keep us posted. Sherry > Pat, that just doesn't sound right. I've taken Yoda in twice for > tumors. The vet suspected they were benign fatty tumors, which they did [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > grow bigger or what? > Purrs for the best possible outcome. Keep us posted. Purrs here as well. DP's mom's dog had a tumour, but not a cancerous one, just a growth that didn't really bother her much, it just looked strange. Still, if you're nervous, maybe another vet would do a biopsy for you. --Fil > DP's mom's dog had a tumour, but not a cancerous one, just a growth > that didn't really bother her much, it just looked strange. Still, if > you're nervous, maybe another vet would do a biopsy for you. I agree with Doc, who says if it grows bigger, it should come out. He said after taking it out we'll see if it's malignant. > I agree with Doc, who says if it grows bigger, it should come out. He said > after taking it out we'll see if it's malignant. Wouldn't you want to know now? The sooner treatment starts for cancer, the better the chances of recovery. I would seek a second opinion *and* a biopsy.  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >I agree with Doc, who says if it grows bigger, it should come out. He said >after taking it out we'll see if it's malignant. It sounds as though from the presentation, your vet doesn't think it's likely to be anything worrisome. Betty is sending Abelard purrs anyway. >> DP's mom's dog had a tumour, but not a cancerous one, just a growth that >> didn't really bother her much, it just looked strange. Still, if you're >> nervous, maybe another vet would do a biopsy for you. > > I agree with Doc, who says if it grows bigger, it should come out. He said > after taking it out we'll see if it's malignant. That sounds like closing the barn door after the horse has gone. How long has this Vet practiced? MLB >>>DP's mom's dog had a tumour, but not a cancerous one, just a growth that >>>didn't really bother her much, it just looked strange. Still, if you're [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That sounds like closing the barn door after the horse has gone. How > long has this Vet practiced? MLB Yes, I think I'd be inclined to seek a second opinion, too! ...Or is he a vet of the "old school", who believed that "animals don't feel pain the way humans do", and "after all, it's only an aninmal"? (I thought they were mostly dead or retired, but maybe not.) > >>>DP's mom's dog had a tumour, but not a cancerous one, just a growth that > >>>didn't really bother her much, it just looked strange. Still, if you're [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it's only an aninmal"? (I thought they were mostly dead or > retired, but maybe not.) Pat lives in an extremely isolated area. I doubt she has much choice. > Pat lives in an extremely isolated area. I doubt she has much choice. It's remote but there are vets around. This time I went to Dr. Johnson in Ava because he's the closest one (only 22 miles). >> That sounds like closing the barn door after the horse has gone. How >> long has this Vet practiced? MLB He's been around quite some time - maybe 35-40 years. > Yes, I think I'd be inclined to seek a second opinion, too! ...Or is he a > vet of the "old school", who believed that "animals don't feel pain the > way humans do", and "after all, it's only an aninmal"? (I thought they > were mostly dead or retired, but maybe not.) This is a very compassionate vet. This tumor isn't causing Abelard any pain. You can squeeze it and he doesn't care at all. >>> That sounds like closing the barn door after the horse has gone. How >>> long has this Vet practiced? MLB [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > This is a very compassionate vet. This tumor isn't causing Abelard any > pain. You can squeeze it and he doesn't care at all. Let's hope that it's benign fatty tumour then. They are very common in dogs. The first time I noticed one on a dog of mine, I rushed to the vet. He didn't biopsy it either. It did grow slightly over the years but caused no problems at all. My last dog, Logan, had one almost as big as a golfball on his side between his ribcage and his hip. He got it when he was about 9 or 10 and he still had it when I had to have him PTS after two severe strokes aged 17. It was very unsightly but it caused him no difficulties and no bad symptoms came from it. A *fatty* tumour doesn't mean your animal is fat. None of my dogs or cats have ever been fat - I don't allow it! - and several of my dogs have had them as they reached middle age or older. Tweed > >>> That sounds like closing the barn door after the horse has gone. How > >>> long has this Vet practiced? MLB [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed Sometimes they will even reabsorb into the body. I think that is why the vet says keep an eye on it. If it grows, then it's definitely soemthing I would want biopsied. > Pat, that just doesn't sound right. I've taken Yoda in twice for > tumors. The vet suspected they were benign fatty tumors, which they did > turn out to be, but he always insisted on a biopsy anyway. It is just > worrisome to wait, thinking it *might* be cancerous and early removal > could stop it from spreading. Is he waiting to see if it is going to > grow bigger or what? Yes, he said he didn't want to operate unless it gets bigger. >>> Purring away. "Tumor" literally means swelling rather than cancer. >>> Was cancer established by biopsy, or is it possible this is a local [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Sherry Doesn't sound right to me, either. To draw a parallel, if I had a lump in my breast I sure wouldn't let the doctor wait to see "if it got bigger" before trying to find out if it was malignant or just a benign mass. But of course, purrs for pretty Abelard. Jill > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not > normal so off to TED we went. He doesn't want to remove it unless it gets > bigger, so I'll be watching it closely. I'm so sorry to hear this. Is it near a vaccination site? Could be vaccine associated sarcoma. :( Lots of purrs. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > I'm so sorry to hear this. Is it near a vaccination site? TED asked the same thing. He never got a vaccine there. > Could be vaccine associated sarcoma. :( > Lots of purrs. Lots of thanks. > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so > early in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Purrs for Abelard. Which shoulder is it on? Did the vet want to biopsy it at all? Poor Abelard and you. I'm very sorry to hear this news. > Purrs for Abelard. Which shoulder is it on? Did the vet want to biopsy it > at all? Poor Abelard and you. I'm very sorry to hear this news. It's on his left shoulder. The vet did not want to do a biopsy. His actual words were "I don't want to invade it just yet". >> Purrs for Abelard. Which shoulder is it on? Did the vet want to biopsy it >> at all? Poor Abelard and you. I'm very sorry to hear this news. > > It's on his left shoulder. The vet did not want to do a biopsy. His actual > words were "I don't want to invade it just yet". >> Purrs for Abelard. Which shoulder is it on? Did the vet want to biopsy it >> at all? Poor Abelard and you. I'm very sorry to hear this news. > > It's on his left shoulder. The vet did not want to do a biopsy. His actual > words were "I don't want to invade it just yet". My dogs got fatty tumors as they got older. Hope this is no more a big deal than they were. Jo >>> Purrs for Abelard. Which shoulder is it on? Did the vet want to biopsy it >>> at all? Poor Abelard and you. I'm very sorry to hear this news. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Jo Stinky actually is sporting a small one on his right rear leg. Doesn't bother him at all. Fingers crossed that Abelard's is nothing any worse than that. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Did they do a biopsy? "Tumor" is NOT synonymous with "cancer", you know - many people (and other animals) have "benign tumors" of one sort or another removed all the time. (Or not, if they aren't causing any trouble.) Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ see pictures of Sam at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ann791/my_photos > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early > in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Purrs that the tumor is benign and won't cause him any trouble. Soothing purrs for you, too. SignatureJoy **Don't believe everything you think** > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early > in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Purrs for Abelard on the way. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe >Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in >his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Big Purrs coming for Abelard. I am so shocked and bummed about this-- he is such a character. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > In any event, no more Frontline for Abelard, just in case. > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. I don't know about any connection between Frontline and cancer, but many purrs on the way for Abelard and you. I know how much he means to you. SignatureMarina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early > in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > fleas regularly. And this thing just sprang up to a noticeable size since > the recent Frontline treatment which was done Friday or Saturday. Sorry to hear of Abelard's lump. > Has anyone heard of any cancers that were related to Frontline? No. FWIW I *seriously* doubt it's Frontline that's caused the lump. *Millions* of cats are Frontlined regularly for years and if there was a problem as you suggest, it would be known of long before now. > In any event, no more Frontline for Abelard, just in case. > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Be aware that 'lump' and 'tumor' do not necessarily mean cnacer and most certainly do not mean a death sentence. Cheers, helen s > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. I'm sorry to hear this, Pat! What are you supposed to do at this point? Wait a week and see if it gets bigger? If not, what then? What if it just stays the same size? kili > I'm sorry to hear this, Pat! What are you supposed to do at this point? > Wait a week and see if it gets bigger? If not, what then? What if it > just > stays the same size? Doc says not to worry unless it grows, so I'll just watch itand hope it either stays the same or goes away. Someone else mentioned "fatty tumor". Can a thin kitty get one? Abelard is so thin, always has been. Purrs for Abelard! It's scary when you don't know what's wrong with your baby. Joyce > > I'm sorry to hear this, Pat! What are you supposed to do at this point? > > Wait a week and see if it gets bigger? If not, what then? What if it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Someone else mentioned "fatty tumor". Can a thin kitty get one? Abelard is > so thin, always has been. I could be wrong, but I don't think a fatty tumor has anything to do with the size of the animal. I believe it's just a conglomeration of fat cells attached to the wrong place or they swell up or something. Does anyone have any medical insight on this? kili > > I'm sorry to hear this, Pat! What are you supposed to do at this point? > > Wait a week and see if it gets bigger? If not, what then? What if it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Someone else mentioned "fatty tumor". Can a thin kitty get one? Abelard is > so thin, always has been. Absolutely they can. I don't think such things are from the amount of available fat. How big is the lump, Pat? >> Someone else mentioned "fatty tumor". Can a thin kitty get one? Abelard >> is >> so thin, always has been. >> > Absolutely they can. I don't think such things are from the amount of > available fat. How big is the lump, Pat? Like a small marble, maybe.... or a cooked garbanzo bean? I can't think of many things that are this exact size. It looks so odd, sitting there on his shoulder like that. I might take a pic later and post it somewhere. Very, very busy here lately - way behind on lotsa stuff. > >> Someone else mentioned "fatty tumor". Can a thin kitty get one? Abelard > >> is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > shoulder like that. I might take a pic later and post it somewhere. Very, > very busy here lately - way behind on lotsa stuff. That's about the size of the last fatty tumor Yo-man had. It was just straight down from his ear, just under the jawbone. It was hard to the touch, and didn't really move around when you touched it. Sherry > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so > early in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It > was clearly not normal so off to TED we went. He doesn't want to > remove it unless it gets bigger, so I'll be watching it closely. <snip> I'm _very_ sorry to hear that. Purrs for a successful treatment. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in >his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not >normal so off to TED we went. He doesn't want to remove it unless it gets >bigger, so I'll be watching it closely. Purrs and benign hopes for young Abelard. SignatureWayne, with special purrformances by Will and Heidi Purrs and prayers for dear Abelard. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early > in his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. Purrs!!! Elisabet and Hugo Katt Pat skrev i meddelandet ... >Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in >his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. >Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in >his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Spontaneous remission purrs would be very appreciated. You got it,Pat. I'm so sorry. Hopefully, it is a benign tumor that will not cause any problems for Abelard. Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) I'm so very sorry to hear about Abelard, but we are purring and sending the very best of wishes for the tumor to be benign, Polonca and Soncek > Just got back from TED and I'm still in shock. How can a it be, so early in > his life? I noticed it yesterday, a lump on his shoulder. It was clearly not > normal so off to TED we went. He doesn't want to remove it unless it gets > bigger, so I'll be watching it closely. <snip> |
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