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Emily Survives Month In Plane's Cargo

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Robert Cohen - 30 Oct 2005 15:21 GMT
CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.

I suppose there was food/prey/liquid, some oxygen & some warmth in the
cargo place?

What else would a kitty need, other than cat-like patience.

How much did Emily weigh when found?
John of Aix - 30 Oct 2005 19:03 GMT
> CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
>
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>
> How much did Emily weigh when found?

I read that she was skinny but in good health. Reports vary on her
access to food, some say she had none (in a container, some say there
are no mice on the ship anyway and some say she ate her own excrement..
Remarkanly resilient animal in any case.
mange@merde.com - 30 Oct 2005 19:34 GMT
> > CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> are no mice on the ship anyway and some say she ate her own excrement..
> Remarkanly resilient animal in any case.

The kitten was found in good health but was sadly eaten by a Frenchman
right after landing.
RLM - 30 Oct 2005 21:49 GMT
mange@merde.com a écrit :

>>>CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>are no mice on the ship anyway and some say she ate her own excrement..
>>Remarkanly resilient animal in any case.

=a kind of "Mange-merde" ?
Duke of URL - 31 Oct 2005 00:15 GMT
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> mange@merde.com a écrit :
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> =a kind of "Mange-merde" ?

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Robert Cohen - 30 Oct 2005 19:36 GMT
Domestic cats are truly amazing: The cliches about curiosity and nine
lives are accurate.

I just read an article in an actual Sunday magazine (where? PARADE?) or
newspaper about people in the U.S. having tigers, bobcats, (and lions?)
as house/yard pets.

It's actually legal in some States, and they're owned in the thousands
(legally/illegally).

They obtain/buy 'em via the internet (wherever that is).

I can't eagerly envision myself petting/caring-for a tiger.

Plus the article says expenses of  $100--$200 USD a month in food
alone, and veternarian treatment isn't that easy to obtain.

And when that cutey-pie  pet tiger or a  bobcat bites its owner/master
a little to simply send a message about being temporarily irritated, as
my house kitty sometimes harmlessly does, I fear that little bite has
to be treated with stitches in the emergency room of a hospital.
No More  Retail - 30 Oct 2005 20:03 GMT
In US you must obtain a exotic pet permit except in Texas.  Mostly the ones
who own them are in Texas where the exotic pets laws are very flimsy.  And
most are financial set  the ones that you here about cruelty have either
illegal obtained them or the animals are from closed down petting or
traveling zoos

A lot of these exotic pet owners out side of Texas either illegal have them
or have them for the ultimate pet theory; which is look what I have and you
don't.

Down her in Florida near Walt Disney World there is a Tiger farm that you
can go get your license and training at.  IT cost alot to get your license
Enfilade - 31 Oct 2005 00:14 GMT
> I just read an article in an actual Sunday magazine (where? PARADE?) or
> newspaper about people in the U.S. having tigers, bobcats, (and lions?)
> as house/yard pets.

One of my high school classmates was killed by a tiger.  His uncle
owned an exotic animal park, and Graydon had a summer job working with
the animals (he had done it since he was about 13--several years.

They found him dead, skin intact, in the tiger cage.  Autopsy showed
his neck was broken cleanly.  The coroner believes that one of the
tigers took a playful bat at him, and did more damage than kitty
intended.

I have a friend who is a herpetologist and keeps venomous snakes at
home.  She uses many precautions caring for them (properly secured
cages, protective gear, doesn't handle them unnecessarily, won't allow
anyone but herself in the snake room when a cage is opened) but she has
come to terms with the fact that her pets may one day kill her.

--Fil

(who is glad that Nocturne will never reach the mass of a saber-tooth
tiger like she seems to THINK she will someday)
Robert Cohen - 31 Oct 2005 16:03 GMT
The tiger article is in the current PARADE MAGAZINE, available in
mediocre Sunday newspapers in 50 States and maybe the Virgin Islands &
Puerto Rico too)

not that there's anything wrong with that, especially with those
terrific bait 'n switch automobile ads
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 30 Oct 2005 22:22 GMT
>>CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> access to food, some say she had none (in a container, some say there
> are no mice on the ship anyway

Yeah, sure!!!  (There's this bridge I have for sale......)
Anyplace you find humans and foodstuffs, you find mice.
(Even more so if the containers were hauling grain - anyone
know what the cargo was?)  I don't think those containers
are hermetically sealed, so it's quite possible Emily was
able to get out - at least far enough to find water and do a
little foraging.
No More  Retail - 30 Oct 2005 22:44 GMT
I was almost believe that a crew many probably put some food and water out
but kept it quiet so he did not have to report it and start filing paperwork
out

But I saw pets come out of the big easy almost a month after  skinny and
deydrated  but still alive
John F. Eldredge - 31 Oct 2005 01:37 GMT
>>>CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>able to get out - at least far enough to find water and do a
>little foraging.

The containers I have seen on the back of trucks generally have a
finger-width gap around the doors.  This wouldn't be enough to let a
cat out, but would be more than enough to let a mouse in.  Some
containers might well have larger vents open as well.

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fzer0 - 31 Oct 2005 02:55 GMT
> CBS this "Sunday Morning" reports a cat tale from France.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> How much did Emily weigh when found?

Robert, you like surviving story?  Here is one for you:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4357172.stm
Robert Cohen - 31 Oct 2005 15:35 GMT
re: survival stories, including of human child

The U.S. has had a similar story (dead parent/semmingly helpless
child). I can't now recall much, but the very young black female child
(age?) ate whatever was in the cupboard (raw, macoroni?) and in the
refrigerator for a very lengthy time.
Robert Cohen - 31 Oct 2005 15:59 GMT
Domesticated hungry kitties may also eat insects (cockroaches etal)
besides merely playing with 'em as mine has (on a very full of regular
catfeed stomach)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 31 Oct 2005 21:26 GMT
> Domesticated hungry kitties may also eat insects (cockroaches etal)
> besides merely playing with 'em as mine has (on a very full of regular
> catfeed stomach)

And we KNOW there are most likely cockroaches on a cargo
ship!  (Even if they call in an exterminators from time to
time.)
Robert Cohen - 02 Nov 2005 22:55 GMT
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051031/EDITORIALS/510310
09/1096/editorials


A wildlife expert criticizes outdoor cats, darnit to heck.

To me this is a controversial/contrary opinion which I am linking to
this thread although it's tangential while nevertheless insightful &
interesting.

Our cat is mostly kept outside, sleeps 'n eats in semi-closed garage.
 
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