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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / October 2005I'm injured AGAIN (OT)
Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. It was a "get a painkiller instantly" moment. It took me 20 minutes to get down the stairs - on my butt - take an industrial strength painkiller left over from my operations and upstairs to bed again. I took Tramadol, it did not even touch the pain. I had to phone in to work to say I couldn't get there, I had the presence of mind to take my phone up to the bedroom when I got my painkillers. My new manager is good. She said I had plenty of holiday days left (we call it "leave") that I could take a days leave and see how I was on Monday. If you are sick on a Friday; Sat & Sun count too as sick days, even though we don't work them. I've been so ill over the last few years that I've used all my sick-time-and-be-paid days up. First it was my eyes, they took 4 years to sort out, then this ovarian cancer. So I really need to be off work now with what seems to be a badly sprained knee! Not! I don't know how I did it. I just woke up in pain at 5 in the morning and it was there, I hope it's not a more sinister thing like a bone spread from my ovarian ca. My knee is swollen, hot and red. My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. My sister-in-law drove me to the grocery shop today and to get chicken food. She will get me to work next week somehow after she sorts out her 5 and unders.. Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly healthy again?? Tweed Certainly you're allowed to be fed up, but shouldn't you also have a doctor look at your knee? If it had been a minor twist or something that you were pretty sure needed only rest, that would be one thing, but pain that severe and sudden might need professional examination. Cheryl  SignatureCheryl > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Tweed Purrs for your knee to get better asap. Have you seen the doctor yet? If not, I think you should. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >> Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday >> morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Purrs for your knee to get better asap. Have you seen the doctor yet? If > not, I think you should. No. I haven't seen a doctor yet. I will if I still cannot drive in a week's time. Tweed oh, dear, Tweed. Please go see a doctor before it gets any worse. I hope it isn't anything serious. Lily & her mama Jazz, RB SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed > oh, dear, Tweed. Please go see a doctor before it gets any worse. I hope > it isn't anything serious. > Lily & her mama > Jazz, RB My sis-in-law will take me to the doc if it's no better by Tuesday. Tweed Strong Knee Purrs coming at you, Tweed. I HOPE it's nothing worse than a sprained knee and not more C. But a sprained knee sounds quite painful enough in the circumstances. Melissa > Strong Knee Purrs coming at you, Tweed. I HOPE it's nothing worse than > a sprained knee and not more C. But a sprained knee sounds quite > painful enough in the circumstances. > > Melissa Reassurances on that point. Even in metastatic bone cancer, it's extremely rare to find it in or around a joint. In the short term, if you've damaged something, ice will reduce the swelling. If you know how to bandage it for support and compression, that's a good idea. Purr machines going. >> Strong Knee Purrs coming at you, Tweed. I HOPE it's nothing worse than >> a sprained knee and not more C. But a sprained knee sounds quite [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Purr machines going. I just wish my surgeon had told me where (if) it might metastasize. I get afraid that any pain is it coming back. I know it probably isn't but.. I never want to go through that hospital experience without adequate pain control again. Tweed Immense purrs that you feel better immediately. But I'd also get that knee looked at by a doctor ASAP. They can help ID what's the matter with it, if the cause of the pain, sprain, etc isn't immediately apparent. They can also help out with pain-relief things like ace bandages, crutches/cane, etc, that will help you navigate on that leg until the knee is better. Argh on injuries. Feel better soon! Donna, Captain, and Stanley P.S. FWIW, my one experience with a real knee injury taught me that the *real* pain and swelling can take a while to develop. It was a case of going to bed thinking, "This might not be so bad, it's just a bit sore", and waking up with a leg so painful that even touching the floor with my foot was excruciating. I hope that's all this mystery injury is for you -- something that didn't seem to be anything at the time it happened, and then the symptoms came along some hours later. > Immense purrs that you feel better immediately. But I'd also get that knee > looked at by a doctor ASAP. They can help ID what's the matter with it, if > the cause of the pain, sprain, etc isn't immediately apparent. Thanks. But, LOL! I think not. My doctors wouldn't have a clue and would send me to Accident & Emergency at the hospital 4 miles away where I would sit for up to 8 hours and eventually be told I have a sprain. Which I knew already. > They can also help out with pain-relief things like ace bandages, > crutches/cane, etc, that will help you navigate on that leg until the knee > is better. I'm using my painkillers that I had from my operation. I have a very large stick-thingie that I call my rat-thwacker which I am using to relieve the pain when I try to walk. I lean on it when my bad leg needs to touch the floor. I'll be fine very soon, honestly. I never heard of ace bandages, what are they? > Argh on injuries. Feel better soon! I hope so. Tweed > P.S. FWIW, my one experience with a real knee injury taught me that the > *real* pain and swelling can take a while to develop. It was a case of > going to bed thinking, "This might not be so bad, it's just a bit sore", > and waking up with a leg so painful that even touching the floor with my > foot was excruciating. Oh yes. that's how it is right now. . I hope that's all this mystery injury is for you -- > something that didn't seem to be anything at the time it happened, and > then the symptoms came along some hours later. Yep, unfortunately it's so painful that I cannot drive at the moment. This means I cannot get to work and I cannot shop for essentials, although I can last for quite a while on what I've got in the freezer and cupboard. I have plenty of cat food, both wet and dry too. We will all be absolutely okay. I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two weeks ago. Tweed > I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two weeks ago. I was wondering about that, too, but this would be a very delayed reaction. Purrs that it gets better soon. SignatureMarina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two weeks >> ago. > > I was wondering about that, too, but this would be a very delayed > reaction. Purrs that it gets better soon. I know that it would be a very delayed reaction and it seems unlikely. It's almost impossible that I somehow got this injury while I was asleep, though. The only other explanation could be that I was sleepwalking and fell down the stairs or something. As far as I know, I have never walked in my sleep before, and I was in bed when I woke up with the knee pain. It's a mystery. I went to bed quite okay and woke up with a bad knee injury. Go figure. Your ideas on how it might have happened would be welcome. Tweed >>> I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two weeks ago. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tweed It may not be an injury per se.... I had an infection in the bursa of my knee several years ago that sounded just like what you're describing- it was red, swollen and hot to the touch. I started on Saturday morning as a tiny red spot on the knee, but within an hour or two was huge and incredibly painful. I was on antibiotics for almost 4 months trying to clear it up (there's apparently very little blood flow into the bursa, so treating it was a bear). My doctors (my internist and the specialist he sent me to) never did figure exactly how the infection occurred- apparently sometimes infections just get into places that are hard to treat. I've had similar events since, but in my elbow. I'd have it checked out as soon as possible. Katrina >>> I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two weeks >>> ago. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tweed Arthritis -- and a storm coming! MLB >>> I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two >>> weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tweed I have no idea how your knee got hurt (purrs on the way). I do know one morning I woke up and could not turn my head in either direction. It was very painful. Since I couldn't turn my head I couldn't drive. I was driven to the doctor and it turned out to be a pinched nerve. There wasn't much they could do about it. I was given some sort of prescription (don't remember what, perhaps an anti-inflammatory) and it cleared up in a few days. Jill >>>> I wonder if it's connected from my fall off the ladder around two >>>> weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jill Whoops, sorry, it was Bridget. Tweed [[> They can also help out with pain-relief things like ace bandages, > crutches/cane, etc, that will help you navigate on that leg until the knee > is better. I'm using my painkillers that I had from my operation. I have a very large stick-thingie that I call my rat-thwacker which I am using to relieve the pain when I try to walk. I lean on it when my bad leg needs to touch the floor. I'll be fine very soon, honestly. I never heard of ace bandages, what are they?]] Here's an image of someone wearing an ace bandage on their wrist: http://www.fotosearch.com/BDX128/bxp28224/ "Ace" is actually a brand name, so you might know these items by a different name. They're the elastic bandages used to wrap sprains or provide compression to injuries. Here's another shot of one of these bandages rolled up: http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=BDX/BDX128/bxp28225.jpg See if your doctor thinks that it, or something like it, might help support your knee and help it feel better. Drat on all injuries. :o( Donna, Captain, and Stanley, still purring away for your quick recovery > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. > It was a "get a painkiller instantly" moment. <snip> My knee is swollen, hot and red. My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. Hi Tweed, Sounds like what happens to me when my rheumatoid arthritis acts up! I go to bed fine, wake up with a swollen joint and in total pain. I have found that using an anti-inflammatory like aspirin or ibuprophen works to relieve the pain. Ice packs on the affected joint help alot. I hope you feel better soon! Patti >> Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday >> morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I hope you feel better soon! > Patti And a shot of cortisone does wonders, See a doctor soonest.MLB > it "leave") that I could take a days leave and see how I was on Monday. If > you are sick on a Friday; Sat & Sun count too as sick days, even though we > don't work them. That's one way of dealing with fakers, I guess. :( > Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly healthy again?? Yes and who knows. But we're sending lots of healing purrs. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Oh, poor Christina! Purrs that your knee recovers quickly and you are restored to good health. SignatureJoy **Don't believe everything you think** > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Tweed>.. Sorry to hear about your knee. It must be agony. Have you damaged your knee before, it could be arthritis :( Lots of purrs for you. Alison <snip> > Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly > healthy again?? Of course you're allowed to be fed up! Many purrs for a speedy recovery. SignatureCheryl > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right > knee. Oops! PLEASE see doc asap 'cos it might be more than a simple sprain. In the meantime, given your run of luck, don't waste your money on roulette, lottery or games of luck or chance of any kind :-) Get Well Soon purrs from us all Gordon & the FF >Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday >morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Tweed {{{{Tweed}}}}} You have been through so much, you surely didn't need this, too. Purrs for your poor knee, and I hope you feel much better very soon. Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. Purrs and healing thoughts on the way. What does your Dr. say is the cause of your pain? Pam S. >Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly healthy again?? I know I'd be fed up. Please get this checked out by a medico. We'd all like to know that your getting the very best advice and care. SignatureWayne M (indulged by Will and Heidi) >I don't know how I did it. I just woke up in pain at 5 in the morning and >it was there, I hope it's not a more sinister thing like a bone spread from >my ovarian ca. My knee is swollen, hot and red. >My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. I think your gut feeling is right. Ovarian cancer spreading to the knee causing sudden swelling doesn't sound plausible. I hope you get some medical attention for it and feel better soon! Maybe you turned it somehow. Once when I was in France ages ago, my ankle mysteriously became red, inflamed, and painful for a few days. I talked to my company about it, and they said that our medical insurance didn't cover doctor visits in foreign countries, so I didn't seek attention for it. It went away on its own as suddenly and mysteriously as it appeared, but my condition wasn't nearly as bad as yours (I could walk fine, with a slight limp). A colleague suggested that maybe I had turned my ankle the night before when I happened to have had a few glasses of beer and wine and got into a fistfight at a bar. >> I don't know how I did it. I just woke up in pain at 5 in the >> morning and it was there, I hope it's not a more sinister thing like >> a bone spread from my ovarian ca. My knee is swollen, hot and red. >> My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > have had a few glasses of beer and wine and got into a fistfight at a > bar. Uhhh, somehow I can't picture you getting in a fistfight at a bar. At all. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album A colleague > suggested > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Uhhh, somehow I can't picture you getting in a fistfight at a bar. At > all. Neither can I. SignatureMarina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> Uhhh, somehow I can't picture you getting in a fistfight at a bar. At >> all. > >Neither can I. Maybe a "fistfight" is a mischaracterization, although I think it was one! What happened that some colleagues and I were having a drink and some frites, when the bar owner's dog started fighting with a patron's dog. He got really mad, knocked over a rack of postcards, stole some videos, and ran off. A few minutes later, most of my friends decided to go after him. I just said, "How rash", and stayed to finish my drink. But the guy came back while they were away, brandishing a huge boltcutter! I got between him and the bar owner, and started talking to them, trying to calm them down. At the moment, my friends came back, and one of them, seeing the guy waving a boltcutter at me, snapped and tackled him from behind, beating the snot out of him. I jumped on my friend and tried to pull him off, saying, "Darren, don't kill him!" Then, more people joined in. So that is the tale of my first and only barfight. :) >>> Uhhh, somehow I can't picture you getting in a fistfight at a bar. At >>> all. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > So that is the tale of my first and only barfight. :) **blink** Why Tak! I had no idea you had such and exciting social life! > Maybe a "fistfight" is a mischaracterization, although I think it was > one! What happened that some colleagues and I were having a drink and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > So that is the tale of my first and only barfight. :) We should have known that it wouldn't be any normal kind of barroom brawl. Tak, I don't know where you get it, but you're as bad about having strange things happen as I am. Pam S. Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. It was a "get a painkiller instantly" moment. It took me 20 minutes to get down the stairs - on my butt - take an industrial strength painkiller left over from my operations and upstairs to bed again. I took Tramadol, it did not even touch the pain. I had to phone in to work to say I couldn't get there, I had the presence of mind to take my phone up to the bedroom when I got my painkillers. My new manager is good. She said I had plenty of holiday days left (we call it "leave") that I could take a days leave and see how I was on Monday. If you are sick on a Friday; Sat & Sun count too as sick days, even though we don't work them. I've been so ill over the last few years that I've used all my sick-time-and-be-paid days up. First it was my eyes, they took 4 years to sort out, then this ovarian cancer. So I really need to be off work now with what seems to be a badly sprained knee! Not! I don't know how I did it. I just woke up in pain at 5 in the morning and it was there, I hope it's not a more sinister thing like a bone spread from my ovarian ca. My knee is swollen, hot and red. My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. My sister-in-law drove me to the grocery shop today and to get chicken food. She will get me to work next week somehow after she sorts out her 5 and unders.. Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly healthy again?? Tweed Please allow me to butt in , even though I don't know the extent of your medical history ( I am the one who posted about the little kitten Kady that our doggie brought home) ... but seeing as you mentioned cancer, I wonder if you have been on chemotherapy drugs... some of them are known to cause blood clots.... which have symptoms similar to what you have said you experienced. Please see a doc as soon as possible.... don't let it wait. My father was on chemo , and had a blood clot in his leg.... thats what made me think of it. Best wishes. laurie (pics are up at www.richandlaurie.com) "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3rv37mFlr7t0U1@individual.net... Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. It was a "get a painkiller instantly" moment. It took me 20 minutes to get down the stairs - on my butt - take an industrial strength painkiller left over from my operations and upstairs to bed again. I took Tramadol, it did not even touch the pain. I had to phone in to work to say I couldn't get there, I had the presence of mind to take my phone up to the bedroom when I got my painkillers. My new manager is good. She said I had plenty of holiday days left (we call it "leave") that I could take a days leave and see how I was on Monday. If you are sick on a Friday; Sat & Sun count too as sick days, even though we don't work them. I've been so ill over the last few years that I've used all my sick-time-and-be-paid days up. First it was my eyes, they took 4 years to sort out, then this ovarian cancer. So I really need to be off work now with what seems to be a badly sprained knee! Not! I don't know how I did it. I just woke up in pain at 5 in the morning and it was there, I hope it's not a more sinister thing like a bone spread from my ovarian ca. My knee is swollen, hot and red. My gut feeling is that it isn't. It hurts like hell though. My sister-in-law drove me to the grocery shop today and to get chicken food. She will get me to work next week somehow after she sorts out her 5 and unders.. Am I allowed to be a bit fed up? When will I be properly healthy again?? Tweed Please allow me to butt in , even though I don't know the extent of your medical history ( I am the one who posted about the little kitten Kady that our doggie brought home) ... but seeing as you mentioned cancer, I wonder if you have been on chemotherapy drugs... some of them are known to cause blood clots.... which have symptoms similar to what you have said you experienced. Please see a doc as soon as possible.... don't let it wait. My father was on chemo , and had a blood clot in his leg.... thats what made me think of it. Best wishes. laurie (pics are up at www.richandlaurie.com) piggy backing my post : http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=6348 > "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in > message news:3rv37mFlr7t0U1@individual.net... [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > My father was on chemo , and had a blood clot in his leg.... thats what > made me think of it. Thanks for the heads up, Laurie. I ended up not having to have chemo, they thought they got it all. Tweed This sounds a lot like my dad's gout. And that can come on suddenly and be just as painful. The sooner you get to a doc, the better. Bridget, concerned (and the lethargic three who are purring nonetheless) > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed Sounds like it might be more than just a sprain. Especially if it just happened and you didn't injure it. Might be an infection, I'd have it checked out ASAP. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pain. I had to phone in to work to say I couldn't get there, I had > the presence of mind to take my phone up to the bedroom when I got my > painkillers. > > My new manager is good. She said I had plenty of holiday days left > (we call it "leave") that I could take a days leave and see how I was > on Monday. If you are sick on a Friday; Sat & Sun count too as sick > days, even though we don't work them. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Tweed Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. My knee is quite a lot better pain-wise than Friday (absolute agony) and yesterday (very painful.) I was able to drive today. Going down steps and getting in and out of the car is the worst, but tolerable today without shouting out AAAARRGH. I managed to drive 20 miles there and back to my aunt's. Sunday dinner, very important ;-) My aunt said she had some ointment that had helped her recent knee injury a lot and also fixed me up with a knee support. So I rubbed the ointment on my knee. Then I noticed that inside the cardboard container was a plastic nozzle. *Alarm bells!* I read the packet. "For ano-rectal use only.." Ah well. I have haemorrhoid ointment on my knee, but you know what? I think it's helped <g> Although I was very dubious about Jill's diagnosis of gout, because I associated it with obese elderly men who drink all the time, I decided to google. It's not impossible that that's what it is. I fit some criteria. Post-menopausal woman - I am now since my hysterectomy - low dose aspirin. I'm not an alcoholic though, although I don't object to the occasional glass of wine. It says moderate alcohol intake can cause it along with the other factors. I am going to work tomorrow, but I shall see if I can get an appointment at my doctor's surgery afterwards. I suspect not. I have plan B. We have a new scheme here in the UK, to relieve the doctors, see your pharmacist first. If the pharmacist decides you need to see the doc, they have to see you within half an hour. <thinks> Maybe I won't even bother to ring the doctor and not get an appointment for days, maybe I should just drive straight from work and show the pharmacist my swollen knee. I shall be in then to see the doctor in half an hour. Good idea? Tweed > Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Tweed As much as I hate the word, I have a problem with gout. It is a form of inflammatory arthritis. It just conjures up images of Henry VIII hobbling about the castle, yelling and everyone, with a leg of mutton in one hand and a glass of ale in the other. But given the other things that could cause your knee to act up like that, please see a doctor and rule out the more serious ones. I don't want to be an alarmist, but there is always a chance of a blood clot after you've had surgery and been laid up for a while. Jo > As much as I hate the word, I have a problem with gout. It is a form of > inflammatory arthritis. It just conjures up images of Henry VIII hobbling > about the castle, yelling and everyone, with a leg of mutton in one hand > and a glass of ale in the other. Yes, that's what I thought but I've now updated my stereotypical ideas. > But given the other things that could cause your knee to act up like that, > please see a doctor and rule out the more serious ones. > > I don't want to be an alarmist, but there is always a chance of a blood > clot after you've had surgery and been laid up for a while. My surgeon was almost paranoid about us post-surgical women getting a blood clot. We were got up and made to walk the next day after our operation. That was the very first (and only) time that I got very angry with a nurse. There's no chance of it being a blood clot. I've been active after the surgery for a while now and back at work since 31st August. It could easily be gout from what I've researched. Typically comes on while at rest apparently. I'll see what the doc says tomorrow. Actually I know what he'll say. I will show him my swollen knee, he won't even examine it or touch it and he'll say it's a sprain. I might challenge him on this. He won't like it. Wish me luck. Tweed >> As much as I hate the word, I have a problem with gout. It is a form of >> inflammatory arthritis. It just conjures up images of Henry VIII [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Tweed I wish you all the luck in the world. And I most certainly do not wish you a blood clot. Gout is about the safest thing you could have. But blood clots can come from out of the blue. Been there done that. And while unlikely, they are far too dangerous to dismiss out of hand. I would be odd for one to present right in the joint. And it should have caused swelling in the lower leg by now if that were the problem. Note, my ortho guy decided that my hand problems were being caused by gout even though my blood tests were in the high range of normal, but not outside the normal range. And it has been pretty much confirmed by the results of taking anti gout medication for the last eight months. We could have cleared it up a whole lot quicker but I cannot tolerate any Non-steroidal anti-inflamitories. Jo > >> I don't want to be an alarmist, but there is always a chance of a blood > >> clot after you've had surgery and been laid up for a while. Off to the vet you go, you go. Purrs for a quick resolution. --Fil >> Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. >> >> My knee is quite a lot better pain-wise than Friday (absolute agony) >> and yesterday (very painful.) I was able to drive today. Going down >> steps and getting in and out of the car is the worst, but tolerable >> today without shouting out AAAARRGH. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Post-menopausal woman - I am now since my hysterectomy - low dose >> aspirin. I'm not an alcoholic though, although I don't object to the >> occasional glass of wine. It says moderate alcohol intake can cause >> it along with the other factors. >> I am going to work tomorrow, but I shall see if I can get an [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of inflammatory arthritis. It just conjures up images of Henry VIII > hobbling about the castle, yelling and everyone, with a leg of mutton > in one hand and a glass of ale in the other. Anyone can get it. Dennis had gout in his foot when he was 17. He was a skinny kid and although I know he drank, far from an alcoholic at 17! -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Although I was very dubious about Jill's diagnosis of gout, I never suggested gout! That was someone else! I don't know for sure what gout is! I said I woke up one morning and couldn't turn my head and it turned out I had a pinched nerve. > have plan B. We have a new scheme here in the UK, to relieve the > doctors, see your pharmacist first. If the pharmacist decides you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tweed I don't know. I do know after a doctor (not my regular physician) prescribed a medication for me it was the *pharmacist* who told me I couldn't drive while taking it; said it would put me right to sleep. Uh, that's not good, I'm trying to get back to work! She said, nope, if you take this you won't be able to work. I believe that doctor has since retired; he was as old as Methusela anyway. Good luck! Jill > Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Tweed It works for me. I hope it does for you. ;-) Incidentally, I've heard that some people use hemrrhoid ointment to eliminate facial wrinkles, so I suspsect it won't hurt your knee. Joy >Thanks very much everyone for all your responses and ideas. > >My knee is quite a lot better pain-wise than Friday (absolute agony) and >yesterday (very painful.) I was able to drive today. Going down steps and >getting in and out of the car is the worst, but tolerable today without >shouting out AAAARRGH. ><thinks> Maybe I won't even bother to ring the doctor and not get an >appointment for days, maybe I should just drive straight from work and show >the pharmacist my swollen knee. I shall be in then to see the doctor in >half an hour. Good idea? That sounds like an excellent idea to me... and gout sounds like a real possibliity to me, either that or some kind of infection. A sprain doesn't just appear out of thin air while you're asleep - you have to do some kind of injury to the joint first, even if just stepping wrong of a curb... I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today and hope you can get in to see a doc ASAP to get some medicine to finish the job! Signature~Karen aka Kajikit Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life http://www.kajikitscorner.com Online photo album - http://community.webshots.com/user/kajikit OK, OK! I've done as you all told me and got medical advice ;-) I went to see the pharmacist after work for his opinion on whether on not I needed to see the G.P. today. I explained the sudden onset of severe knee pain during the night of Thurs/Friday. He asked me a few questions like is it swollen? (yes) is it hot? (yes) do you have arthritis in any small joints like your fingers? (no) and what medication I am on. He then said "your knee is inflamed but we don't know why." He's obviously a graduate of the university of the b.... obvious! I asked if it could possibly be gout and he thought it would be unlikely but not impossible and that blood tests would be needed to establish if it was or not. He told me to take 400 mg of ibuprofen 4 x day with food for 3 days and to come back if it was not improved by then, then I could see the doctor. I could have bought some ibuprofen there, but I didn't as his prices are quite expensive. I said I had some at home, which was true - I hate lying - but neglected to mention that I only had about 4 or 5! I then went to the local ASDA, who sell 16, 200 mg caplets of ibuprofen for 35 pence. I shall have to take two each dose, so I bought two packets. Oh, btw, even if it *is* gout, the pharmacist says that ibuprofen in that dose would be what the doctor would give me anyway, so I'm happy to go along with his advice for 3 days and hobble around for a while until I see an improvement. The chances of it being a blood clot from my surgery in May are, apparently, very small indeed as I've been up and about for a while now, but he did say to watch out if my lower leg swelled, just in case. So, there we have it. I have 3 days to improve and I probably will as it's definitely not as bad as it was at first. If I wake up tomorrow and my leg is black, I promise I'll go back immediately. Thanks for all your kind thoughts and advice. Tweed >OK, OK! I've done as you all told me and got medical advice ;-) I love it when people listen. *grin* >I went to see the pharmacist after work for his opinion on whether on not I >needed to see the G.P. today. I explained the sudden onset of severe knee I take it that pharmacists over there are sortof like triage nurses over here? I would never think of asking my local pharmacist about whether or not I should go to the doctor, and I don't think it's legal for a local pharmacist to suggest anything. That'd be too close to medical malpractice or something like that. But he did give you the kind of advice that I was thinking. Ibuprofen is a non-sterioidal anti-inflammatory(NSAID), and if the problem is caused by inflammation, it'll help. You can take up to 800 mg at a dose. I went through something similar to you, only it was my foot. I woke up one morning with a foot the size of a softball. So I crammed it into a shoe and hobbled into work. But the pain was so bad that I went to the doctor that day (let's hear it for good insurance!), and again later that week, and finally ended up with an X-Ray, an MRI, a big black boot, a cane, and a handicapped placard for my car. He never did find out what it was, but naprosyn worked wonders, and I was back on my feet in about 6 weeks. *I* think it was a stress fracture that didn't show up on the MRI. All of the symptoms were there. But I'd thought about gout, too, and he said no it wasn't. So, do the rest thing and keep us posted, okay? Ibuprofen is good stuff, if you can take it. Jane >>I went to see the pharmacist after work for his opinion on whether on not I >>needed to see the G.P. today. I explained the sudden onset of severe knee > >I take it that pharmacists over there are sortof like triage nurses >over here? That's what I thought too. Pharmacists are well trained, but I didn't think they normally gave that much specific advice, although it makes sense that they could in a pinch. I'm glad Tweed is giving it some medical attention. >>>I went to see the pharmacist after work for his opinion on whether on not I >>>needed to see the G.P. today. I explained the sudden onset of severe knee [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sense that they could in a pinch. I'm glad Tweed is giving it some > medical attention. I don't know how it is in the UK, but here, pharmacists have at least five years of university education. A few years ago, pharmacies started advertising that customers can ask pharmacists about their medical conditions. Some even established a 'back room' for more private discussions. I wouldn't put my medical care wholly in a pharmacist's hands, but I would trust them pretty far in medication issues. It seems that doctors trust them, as well. SignatureMarina, Frank, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > I take it that pharmacists over there are sortof like triage nurses > over here? Well, not normally I don't think, although they will give advice on what to buy over the counter to ease minor symptoms. It seems to be a new idea that my surgery has had recently to cut down what they feel are *unnecessary visits to see the doctor* >I would never think of asking my local pharmacist about > whether or not I should go to the doctor, and I don't think it's legal > for a local pharmacist to suggest anything. That'd be too close to > medical malpractice or something like that. It's the first time I've had to do it, and I didn't feel all that comfortable discussing my symptoms and medical history at the counter where other people were waiting to pick up their prescriptions and obviously couldn't help overhearing. I'm not even sure if it's legal here, actually, for a pharmacist to make a diagnosis (which he is doing, in effect in deciding whether you do or do not need to see a doctor.) I suppose it must be if my doctors thought it was a good idea. It will certainly cut down the appointments from patients who have a head cold and for whom self-medication for a week will be a cure. A week with medication or 7 days without will cure a minor cold. > But he did give you the kind of advice that I was thinking. Ibuprofen > is a non-sterioidal anti-inflammatory(NSAID), and if the problem is > caused by inflammation, it'll help. You can take up to 800 mg at a > dose. I started my 400 mg doses yesterday. I left off the co-codamol, thinking the ibuprofen would take care of the pain. Bad idea. I could hardly get out of bed this morning, so I am now taking both. > I went through something similar to you, only it was my foot. I woke > up one morning with a foot the size of a softball. So I crammed it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > fracture that didn't show up on the MRI. All of the symptoms were > there. But I'd thought about gout, too, and he said no it wasn't. That sounds really painful! I was glad that gout was suggested to me, I hadn't even thought about that and I now know more about it than I did before and the sort of things that cause it. Not at all what I thought. > So, do the rest thing and keep us posted, okay? I'm not doing the rest thing. I'm dosing myself up with painkillers and carrying on working. > Ibuprofen is good > stuff, if you can take it. Having to take it with food is a problem for me. I don't eat at the appropriate times. Tweed > OK, OK! I've done as you all told me and got medical advice ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Tweed Purrs that the ibuprofen does the trick. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. > It was a "get a painkiller instantly" moment. <snipped> Purrs from here for your knee to get better soonest! Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe Please go see a doctor, Christina! Lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed I know this is late christina, but i hope you're feeling better!!! > Could I ask for a few purrs yet again? I woke up at 5 a.m. on Friday > morning with the most incredible, almost unbearable pain in my right knee. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed |
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