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Annie Wxill - 16 Oct 2005 21:42 GMT
I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to some
kind of a time-travel machine.
We put them onboard and the next thing they see is that the dock, yard and
house are gone and some strange place is there.  We shut them in again, and
after a lot of rumble and vibration, the dock, yard and house are back.
Yesterday afternoon we scooped them into their travel bags and took them
onboard. We released them in a room with the door shut.
The floor began to vibrate as the rumble started.  I left them alone so that
we could get the boat off the dock and under way.
When I returned, the kitties told me they did not particularly like the room
with the rumble and the vibrating floor, but what they disliked the most was
the shut door.
They paid no heed to my explanation that it was only to make sure they be
safe inside and not tempted to try to escape through a cabin door when we
exited or entered to or from the outside.
Cinder assumed the duties of mouthpiece and complained that this was no way
for slaves to treat royalty and that Jim and I must have lost what little
minds we had to start with.
Sweet little Rosie was much more diplomatic, even giving me some sympathetic
head butts for my obviously daft condition.
After about 20 minutes, I left them alone again, and shortly after that, the
rumble and vibrations stopped.
I returned and opened the offending door and gave them free run of the
cabin, which included their water dish and their favorite crunchies.
The looks on their faces were priceless as they went from window to window
and saw that someone had taken their yard and home and substituted a body of
water on one side of the boat and a sailboat on the other side.
When they seemed settled, Jim and I had some discussion about letting them
outside the cabin. I was the voice of caution, but Jim promised that he
would be able to handle any problems. We didn't want a cat overboard drill,
but if they needed to learn from the experience, the conditions were about
as good as we could get.
The water was calm and plenty warm and we had the dinghy available to get to
them to scarf them up.  He put on his swimming trunks, but I told him that
welding gloves and a long sleeved jacket would be a better way to handle a
wet cat.
So, we opened the doors, hatches and windows and gave them access to the
outside.
Cinder was the first to venture forth. She did not go out the door.  She
jumped about five feet straight up from the V berth in the front cabin to
the open hatch in the ceiling.
Then she pulled herself up through the hatch and began her explorations,
which included all the decks of our boat. She also crossed to the boat we
were tied to and explored their topside and cabin as well.
Rosie was a little more circumspect, sticking to the cabin at first, and
then limiting her exploring to the outside of our boat.
Neither of them showed any inclination to take a dive into the water.  We
chose this boat in the first place because we can walk totally around it
outside the cabin with protection to keep our feet from slipping overboard,
unless a sudden lurch were to cause us to lose our balance and go over the
rail.
I don't know exactly how to describe it, but the gunwale, or outside edge of
the boat, is raised high enough that the cats can see over it by standing on
the deck walkway with the front paws on the gunwale but it is solid.  Then
there is a space between the gunwale and a rail.
The cats were fine when we left our boat to eat dinner with our friends in
the sailboat.  Then, we served dessert on our boat.
We closed the boat up at night to keep the mosquitoes out, but the cats are
used to being inside at night, so they didn't complain.
The ate their usual canned food for breakfast and used the litter box.
Then, the floor began to vibrate and the rumble started, and eventually,
their deck, yard and house appeared outside the window.  I put them in their
bags and brought them inside, where they have been napping all afternoon.
So far, so good.
Annie


Lisa Katt - 16 Oct 2005 22:22 GMT
Annie Wxill skrev i meddelandet ...
>I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to some
>kind of a time-travel machine.
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
>So far, so good.
>Annie

That sounds quite promising I think.
You would like to take the cats with you on your travels rather than leave
them in a foster home, don't you?
Purrs, Elisabet
Annie Wxill - 17 Oct 2005 00:36 GMT
> That sounds quite promising I think.
> You would like to take the cats with you on your travels rather than leave
> them in a foster home, don't you?
> Purrs, Elisabet

We are trying to find out if going with us would work out for them.  So far,
it looks hopeful for very short trips in good weather.  We will have to
build up to longer trips where we might encounter some more rocking from
waves.  I just don't know if it would be less of an adjustment for them to
be in a more familiar environment of a home on land.
Annie
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 04:52 GMT
>> That sounds quite promising I think.
>> You would like to take the cats with you on your travels rather than
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> will have to build up to longer trips where we might encounter some
> more rocking from waves.  I just don't know if it would be less of
an
> adjustment for them to be in a more familiar environment of a home
on
> land.
> Annie

I know these people who live on a boat in Fiji.  They always go
sailing around the islands for pretty long trips.  They have this part
time marina cat and it goes with them sometimes.  They all get sea
sick for the first few days (including the cat) but then everyone
adjusts and gets their sea legs.  It just seems to take up to 4 days
of steady boat movements to get your balance right.  I'm sure your
kitties would adjust too.
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Annie Wxill - 18 Oct 2005 01:48 GMT
... It just seems to take up to 4 days
> of steady boat movements to get your balance right.  I'm sure your
> kitties would adjust too.
> Britta

I think it's the sound and vibration of the engine that bothers them.  They
haven't had much sensation of movement because we've been on absolutely flat
water.
One good thing, if they get used to this, they will think a ride in the car
is a piece of cake.
Annie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Oct 2005 23:01 GMT
>>That sounds quite promising I think.
>>You would like to take the cats with you on your travels rather than leave
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> be in a more familiar environment of a home on land.
> Annie

One is always reading about "ship's cats", and I think most
cats would rather be with their people, given the choice.
Cats ARE pretty adaptable, once they realize "that's just
the way things are".  A friend had given one of her cat's
kittens to a couple of archeologists, and they traveled all
over the world with it in their RV/trailer/mobile-home.  The
cat seemed perfectly happy, and given the possible dangers
from wildlife around remote archeological sites, it was
primarily an "indoor" cat.
Takayuki - 16 Oct 2005 23:07 GMT
>The ate their usual canned food for breakfast and used the litter box.
>Then, the floor began to vibrate and the rumble started, and eventually,
>their deck, yard and house appeared outside the window.  I put them in their
>bags and brought them inside, where they have been napping all afternoon.
>So far, so good.

The boat trips sound wonderful, but I can imagine how torn you must
be.  You read about other owners who have been frantic when their cats
got out of the house.  Funny stories about cats being entice by a
dragonfly into jumping into a pond, or a cat falling into a bathtub.
Those stories must now seem terrifying to you.

I feel that you can make it work, and have wonderful traveling
adventures like Dan and Harri, but there are risks too.
Annie Wxill - 17 Oct 2005 00:54 GMT
...>
> The boat trips sound wonderful, but I can imagine how torn you must
> be.  You read about other owners who have been frantic when their cats
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I feel that you can make it work, and have wonderful traveling
> adventures like Dan and Harri, but there are risks too.

Tak,
You are entirely correct.  We know that there are risks, no matter which way
we turn.  (Of course, their current life is not entirely risk free, either.
And, as we both know, no matter what we do, some disease can come out of
blue to make our precious kitties battle for their lives.) Also, there is
the question about how well they will adjust to the environmental change,
either on a boat or in a carefully chosen foster home.  We are trying to
assess both those factors and to find ways we can find ways to reduce or
eliminate the risks through prevention or having a solution in place for
those things.
Actually, in her younger days, Cinder did pounce on a leaf that plopped into
the water.  She proved to be a good swimmer and returned directly to where
she went in.  I gave her a little boost, and she was able to get out of the
water.  (She has not tried that again.)
This is why we are already always vigilant and do not let the cats outside
unless we are home to keep track of them.  We do not let them out at night
because of coyotes.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. I know cats do not like change, but
they also can surprise us with how well they can adapt.
Annie (Cinder & Rosie)
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 04:57 GMT
>> The ate their usual canned food for breakfast and used the litter
>> box. Then, the floor began to vibrate and the rumble started, and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I feel that you can make it work, and have wonderful traveling
> adventures like Dan and Harri, but there are risks too.

I really don't think that those stories would apply.  When cats know
that an area is bad or scary, they know to avoid it and don't forget
when they are chasing prey.
When we lived on the 12th floor in Vancouver, Vino had 24 hour access
to the balcony.  We had no special enclosure rigged up out there.  But
Vino knew it was very high and never liked being picked up out there.
He didn't like being able to see over the edge.  On the ground he was
ok just looking through the glass railing.
Anyway, these birds used to divebomb our balcony when Vino was on it.
He would get so excited and stalk the birds.  I was always afraid that
he would forget himself and jump over.  But he never did.  Never even
got close because he quite simply would never jump at all on the
balcony.  He knew it was risky and so he didn't do it.
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Victor Martinez - 17 Oct 2005 00:42 GMT
> So far, so good.

That is excellent! Do tell us that during hurricane season you will be
far away from hurricane territory! :)

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Annie Wxill - 17 Oct 2005 01:00 GMT
>> So far, so good.
>
> That is excellent! Do tell us that during hurricane season you will be far
> away from hurricane territory! :)
> Victor M. Martinez
> Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
Victor,
Yes, we will be in the Great Lakes or the inland waterways during hurricane
season.

We are shipping the things that are of family importance to our daughters
and selling our house so that we won't have to worry about it flooding or
getting blown away.  We will put the money away for housing when we return.
We expect to save enough on property taxes and insurance to pay for our
fuel.

Jim subscribed to some kind of Sprint wireless connection that we can use on
a laptop.  We tried it today, and it is great.  I'll be able to get email
and newsgroups. (Hooray).  Hope you guys don't get seasick (grin).

Annie
Karen - 17 Oct 2005 02:37 GMT
>>> So far, so good.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Annie

Hot diggity!
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 04:59 GMT
>>> So far, so good.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Annie

That's so cool, I can't wait to hear your travel reports :-)
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Marina - 17 Oct 2005 05:30 GMT
> Jim subscribed to some kind of Sprint wireless connection that we can use on
> a laptop.  We tried it today, and it is great.  I'll be able to get email
> and newsgroups. (Hooray).  Hope you guys don't get seasick (grin).

No chance! Looking forward to the stories!

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Jo Firey - 17 Oct 2005 01:50 GMT
> I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to some
> kind of a time-travel machine.
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
> So far, so good.
> Annie

Sounds really good.  Keep reminding yourself that their have been ships cats
as long as there have been ships.  Cinder sounds quite daring.

Jo
Annie Wxill - 17 Oct 2005 02:04 GMT
...> Sounds really good.  Keep reminding yourself that their have been ships
cats
> as long as there have been ships.  Cinder sounds quite daring.
> Jo

Cinder has her own personality, that's for sure.
That's what worries us.
Annie
Pat - 17 Oct 2005 02:13 GMT
> Cinder has her own personality, that's for sure.
> That's what worries us.

They do make tiny lifejackets....
PatM - 17 Oct 2005 02:41 GMT
I found several sites for doggy vests.  I think the x-sm size might
work for kitties...even just to have around when it's stormy.  But
would they leave them on?!
http://handicappedpets.com/vest/

PatM
Annie Wxill - 18 Oct 2005 01:21 GMT
>  They do make tiny lifejackets....
Yes, they make lifejackets for pets.  It's all we can do to get Cinder to
wear a collar.
I have a pet life jacket I bought some time ago, and I tried it on Rosie,
but it is too small.  I'll look for larger size and get one.
If Cinder would wear it, I could get another, but knowing her, she won't
have any part of it.
I think Rosie might be O.K. with it, though.
From what I've read, the problem with life jackets on cats is that it tends
to interfere with their agility.  Cinder is athletic and jumps  and climbs.
I worry about doing anything to interfere with her balance.
If she will wear it at all, it will be in the house at first to see how it
works for her.
Annie
Takayuki - 18 Oct 2005 02:40 GMT
>If she will wear it at all, it will be in the house at first to see how it
>works for her.

If you can get them to wear a jacket, I wonder if they have ones that
illuminate when wet, like airline life jackets, and/or ones that make
an audible alarm, like the ones you put on little kids.
Karen - 17 Oct 2005 02:32 GMT
> I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to
> some kind of a time-travel machine.
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
> So far, so good.
> Annie

Man, I think by the time you are ready to go they will be totally
adapted. How fun it will be for you if you don't have to wonder how
they are doing. Do you have piccies of the boat? I was wondering, is
there any kind of long handled scoop for kitty overboard emergencies?
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 05:01 GMT
> Man, I think by the time you are ready to go they will be totally
> adapted. How fun it will be for you if you don't have to wonder how
> they are doing. Do you have piccies of the boat? I was wondering, is
> there any kind of long handled scoop for kitty overboard emergencies?

Hey that's a good idea!  One of those pool scoopers might work.  Or a
fishing net with a long handle.
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Annie Wxill - 18 Oct 2005 01:31 GMT
... I was wondering, is
>> there any kind of long handled scoop for kitty overboard
> emergencies?
>
> Hey that's a good idea!  One of those pool scoopers might work.  Or a
> fishing net with a long handle.
> Britta
I've been looking at long handled fishing nets.  The ones with the wide
enough rim to scoop up a cat seem to be quite large and have wide holes in
the mesh.  I'm debating in my mind if a cat's legs might go through the mesh
and get it so tangled that she might struggle and tie herself up into such a
knot of cat and net that we'd have to cut the net to get her out.
Other nets have a mesh that is so small that the cat could use it as a
springboard and jump out of it while being rescued.
I know a woman who has a net she has used to fish her cat out of the water
when it jumped off the dock.  I want to see what it looks like, and I think
I'll also talk to our vet about what kind of net he uses when working with
ferals.
Anyway, a net is definitely on our list of equipment.
Also, I think a board covered with carpet might work if we could get close
enough for a cat to grab onto it and climb onto the swim platform and then
get up on the boat.  Both Rosie and Cinder have all their claws, which would
help them grab onto something (preferably not onto a bare leg or arm).
Annie
Takayuki - 18 Oct 2005 02:43 GMT
>Other nets have a mesh that is so small that the cat could use it as a
>springboard and jump out of it while being rescued.

I'll bet that most anything would work.  Someone who's drowing will
hold desperately onto anything.
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 04:48 GMT
Wow, Annie, it's looking really good!  I bet they'd make great
travelling companions.
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

> I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to
> some kind of a time-travel machine.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> window and saw that someone had taken their yard and home and
> substituted a body of water on one side of the boat and a sailboat
on
> the other side.
> When they seemed settled, Jim and I had some discussion about letting
> them outside the cabin. I was the voice of caution, but Jim promised
> that he would be able to handle any problems. We didn't want a cat
> overboard drill, but if they needed to learn from the experience,
the
> conditions were about as good as we could get.
> The water was calm and plenty warm and we had the dinghy available to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> I don't know exactly how to describe it, but the gunwale, or outside
> edge of the boat, is raised high enough that the cats can see over
it
> by standing on the deck walkway with the front paws on the gunwale
> but it is solid.  Then there is a space between the gunwale and a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> been napping all afternoon. So far, so good.
> Annie
Annie Wxill - 18 Oct 2005 01:44 GMT
> Wow, Annie, it's looking really good!  I bet they'd make great
> travelling companions.
> --
> Britta
If the weather is good this coming weekend and the water isn't choppy, we
will go on a longer trip across the bay to a downtown marina.  While there,
we will attend a jazz concert.
Travel time will be a couple of hours.  There will be some rocking if the
waves kick up, but if it looks to be rough, we won't take the cats.  We are
trying to acclimate them a step at a time, not give them heart attacks.
Annie
Marina - 17 Oct 2005 05:26 GMT
> I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to some
> kind of a time-travel machine.

LOL! But it sounds like a very exciting adventure for them.

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Adrian - 17 Oct 2005 10:44 GMT
<snip>
> The cats were fine when we left our boat to eat dinner with our
> friends in the sailboat.  Then, we served dessert on our boat.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> been napping all afternoon. So far, so good.
> Annie

It looks like the cats are going to be fine traveling with you. I look
forward to lots of tales of seafaring kitties. :-)
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Exocat - 17 Oct 2005 11:38 GMT
> I'm sure that Cinder and Rosie think we have transformed the boat to
> some kind of a time-travel machine.
> We put them onboard and the next thing they see is that the dock, yard
> and house are gone and some strange place is there.

Seems to me that the acclimatisation process is progressing well, and
that you'll be travelling with 2 seafarerkitties.

IMO a much safer proposition that leaving them to the tender(?)
mercies of strangers.

Purrs
Gordon & the FF

PS A few piccies would be nice (& you can include the boat)
Karen AKA Kajikit - 19 Oct 2005 18:48 GMT
Sounds like they'll do just fine travelling with you... in no time at
all the boat will be 'their territory' and they'll be used to the
noise of the engine. Cats may seem very persnickety and set in their
ways but they're actually quite adaptable animals, and if you tell
them that this is the way things will be, they'll get used to it in
fairly short order.

There are alarm thingys you can get for toddlers that scream a warning
if they get wet. Could you get something like that put onto the cat's
collars just in case?

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