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If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, you'll know that there is one part called "I Believe." In it the comedians take turns giving comedic versions of life as they'd like it. I got thinking last night and came up with a couple of personal "I Believes." Please join in and help me work off some rant time. I believe that every parent who lets their children misbehave in public, or worse thinks such misbehavior is cute, should be made to stand in a corner along with their children. I believe that anyone who abuses children and/or animals should have to live in a kennel at a puppy mill. I believe that my cats are out to get me. I believe that those who use the term home in place of house (I shudder when I read or hear about a tour of homes) should have to write 50,000 times "You buy a house, you make it a home." I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to their advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I mean. I believe that in a war of words, the loudest usually wins, unfortunately. I believe if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, shouldn't the farm animals have moved there already? And further, that maybe that is the reason the grass is greener. I believe it's time for you to add to my list. Pam S. looking for some good ones  Signaturehttp://www.mousertails.blogspot.com Mouser Tails: The voyages of the Mouser I'm not bad...I'm just written that way Pamela Shirk wrote: > If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, > you'll know that there is one part called "I Believe." In it the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Pam S. looking for some good ones I believe that my cats are out to get me. I believe you're right. ;-) I believe everything the government tells us, *not*. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Pamela Shirk wrote: >> If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> >> Pam S. looking for some good ones Being English, I believe it's time for another cup of tea .... SignatureCathi > Pamela Shirk wrote: > > I believe it's time for you to add to my list. I believe that the physical ability to bear children should be directly related to the intellectual and emotional ability to bring them up well. I believe that one day I'll have a tidy house and nothing on my 'to do ... urgent' list Jeanette Pamela Shirk wrote: > If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, > you'll know that there is one part called "I Believe." In it the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > public, or worse thinks such misbehavior is cute, should be made to > stand in a corner along with their children. I believe I agree with you! > I believe that anyone who abuses children and/or animals should have > to live in a kennel at a puppy mill. I believe anyone who has ever dropped off an animal in the middle of nowhere because it was too much "trouble" should be dropped off in the middle of nowhere with no food, water, natural defenses against unknown predators and just left there. > I believe that my cats are out to get me. I believe you're right! LOL > I believe that those who use the term home in place of house (I > shudder when I read or hear about a tour of homes) should have to > write 50,000 times "You buy a house, you make it a home." I believe I can can my apartment/flat a house, or my home, since I've chosen to live there. Doesn't really matter if it technically isn't a house or a home. > I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to > their advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I > mean. I believe you don't have to be a wife to have figured this out ;) You do, however, have to be over the age of 25. > I believe that in a war of words, the loudest usually wins, > unfortunately. I believe this usually just makes people turn a deaf ear to the one who is shouting, even if they have a legitimate point. > I believe if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, > shouldn't the farm animals have moved there already? And further, > that maybe that is the reason the grass is greener. I believe that woman should stop letting her dog crap in my back yard! Dang is that grass green! > I believe it's time for you to add to my list. > > Pam S. looking for some good ones Jill > If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, you'll > know that there is one part called "I Believe." I believe, if you call the Blue Collar Comedy Tour by the wrong name, you might be a redneck! >> If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, you'll >> know that there is one part called "I Believe." > > I believe, if you call the Blue Collar Comedy Tour by the wrong name, you > might be a redneck! I believe that if you call the Blue Collar Comedy Tour by the wrong name, you might NOT be a redneck! > I believe that if you call the Blue Collar Comedy Tour by the wrong name, > you > might NOT be a redneck! Nope, I'm as rednecked as they come, just happen to be a blonde as well, and very absent minded at times. Thanks for the suck up, it wasn't necessary though. Pam S. who's neck is definitely sunburned >> I believe that if you call the Blue Collar Comedy Tour by the wrong name, >> you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and very absent minded at times. Thanks for the suck up, it wasn't > necessary though. lol! Is that how you took it? :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Pamela Shirk" <tanada@earthlink.net> >I got thinking last night >and came up with a couple of personal "I Believes." Please join in and help >me work off some rant time. I believe: Anything with "Lite" in the name isn't really beer. All problems can be solved with a hammer, duct tape, or a .40 cal pistol. All women look better naked. Anyone living on welfare for more than 2 years should be neutered. Gravity is the key to solving the "Unified Theory" in Physics. You don't NEED another pair of shoes, Bitch! Drivers should receive a 40,000 volt shock every time they use the horn. If you live indoors, you're NOT an environmentalist. God hates religion. On a heavily patrolled highway, you can travel faster in an SUV than a Corvette. All home improvement contractors are in league with the Devil. If you want to go to an anti-war protest and chant "No blood for oil", don't drive your SUV to get there! The life of a light bulb is inversely proportional to the difficulty of changing it. Falling leaves are magnetically attracted to my gutters. My computer enjoys F**king with me. If you weight over 300 lbs, you don't NEED food stamps. Yes, the cat really does need to take up half the space on the bed. Anything that weighs under a pound is a cat toy. Pamela Shirk wrote: > If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, you'll know > that there is one part called "I Believe." In it the comedians take turns [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > worse thinks such misbehavior is cute, should be made to stand in a corner > along with their children. Better still, lock them in a small room with their kids, and keep them there for twenty-four hours straight (with no way of pushing responsibility for discipline off on someone else). > I believe that anyone who abuses children and/or animals should have to live > in a kennel at a puppy mill. Sounds about right to me. (Of course, it might not be a new experience - apparently most people who abuse animals and/or children were abused children, themselves.) > I believe that my cats are out to get me. Are you sure they are even aware of your existence? (Except marginally, at meal time or when they want to be petted.) > I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to their > advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I mean. I'm not so sure it's deliberate! (Sometimes I think they genuinely ARE not only weaker but stupider.) > I believe if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, shouldn't > the farm animals have moved there already? And further, that maybe that is > the reason the grass is greener. :-) > I believe it's time for you to add to my list. I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were run by post-menopausal women. Women are never subject to the need to appear "macho" and they are much more analytical in making choices - especially after the biological urge to reproduce has passed. (That doesn't mean they can't appreciate an attractive male, but they aren't so dominated by their hormones that they lose all sense of proportion - not to mention "common sense".) > I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were run by > post-menopausal women. Once upon a time, it was. And in some aboriginal cultures, it still is. > > I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were run by > > post-menopausal women. > > Once upon a time, it was. And in some aboriginal cultures, it still is. I believe women still run things...we just let the men think they do.;^) I believe people who are not flexible to change and accepting to others end up stuck in a rut surrounded by people they despise who despise them more. I believe they deserve it. I believe people who refuse to be responsible and caring with animals/older people should be given six months unpaid community service at a shelter or old people's home until they grow a heart. I believe people who loudly express their narrow minded opinions to anyone unfortunate to be standing near them should be made to listen to a recording of their own voice for a while. I believe success and happiness are started in your head. > Pamela Shirk wrote: SNIP> > > > I believe that every parent who lets their children misbehave in public, or > > worse thinks such misbehavior is cute, should be made to stand in a corner [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > keep them there for twenty-four hours straight (with no way > of pushing responsibility for discipline off on someone else). I believe this, and the kids should be given an extreme sugar rush, first. <EG> > > I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to their > > advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I mean. > > I'm not so sure it's deliberate! (Sometimes I think they > genuinely ARE not only weaker but stupider.) I believe that men who behave as you describe ARE more stupid. But I do not want to condemn ALL men when many are wise enough to stop and think before they act and speak. > :-) > I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were > run by post-menopausal women. Women are never subject to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by their hormones that they lose all sense of proportion - > not to mention "common sense".) Bravo, yes. I believe this, too. Long standing world problems might even start to get cleared up without the need to appear to be the tough guys all the time. I believe in freedom of religion, but I also believe that religion should not be taught in public school science classes. We need citizens who are scientifically literate and know how to prove or disprove a theory by proper scientific methods. Learn about and discuss your chosen theology at your chosen place of worship, not in biology class. I believe miracles can happen through human or at least mortal agents. I believe cooperation is better than arguing in almost every situation. (With the exceptions of criminal actions.) I believe that arguing is my least favorite form of human communication. I believe it is ALWAYS wrong to abuse children, animals and elderly people. Especially in the case of sexual abuse of children. I believe that wrongs and injustices can be righted if enough people work toward that end. I believe that my home must always have at least one resident cat in order to feel like my home. I believe that most people are essentially good and decent until proven otherwise. I also believe it's almost inevitable that at some point in our lives, the people we love will disappoint us in some way. I believe in forgiveness, especially if I'm the one who needs to be forgiven! =o) Forgiving others is a lifelong lesson I've been trying to learn. I believe one should trust in God or Providence, but lock their doors at night anyway. I DO believe pride goeth before a fall, because I've seen it happen. Always be ready for the Cosmic Banana Peel of life. I believe people would be happier if they had something hilarious to laugh at at least once a day for every day in every year of their life. I believe that even the wisest, smartest most knowledgeable and socially poised people can say incredibly stupid things, once in a while. Nobody is 100% gaffe-proof. The likelihood of this happening is directly proportional to the number of microphones that may be pointed at that person at the time they say it. I believe that people who close their minds and open their mouths are MOST likely to say stupid things on a regular basis. If they make sense, it's likely to be an accident. I believe I've run out of beliefs. Melissa > I believe in freedom of religion, but I also believe that religion > should not be taught in public school science classes. We need citizens > who are scientifically literate and know how to prove or disprove a > theory by proper scientific methods. Learn about and discuss your > chosen theology at your chosen place of worship, not in biology class. I believe that everyone should be taught the difference between "faith" and "fact". "Faith" applies to things that CANNOT be proved or disproved by any scientific method we yet possess. It's "fact" that no one can objectively PROVE the existence (or non-existence) of God - we just don't know enough, yet. That's where "faith" comes in - if you "believe", then for you He exists (and no one can point to any facts proving He does not). I have never understood the kind of mentality that refuses to accept the findings of science because "It's against what the Bible says". The Bible, divinely inspired or not, was written down by MEN (at a time when people were largely ignorant about the world around them). Much of it had been handed down by word of mouth for generations before there even WAS any written language, and if you've ever played a party game called "Gossip", you know how reliable THAT usually is! If scientific findings differ, they are simply revealing more about the works of God than we previously knew. Explaining the "how" of a miracle doesn't make it any less a miracle. (Although I barely passed a class called "Jesus of History" at my Presbyterian college, due to arguing that point with one of the more narrow-minded profs in the department - fortunately, they weren't all like him!) > > I believe in freedom of religion, but I also believe that religion > > should not be taught in public school science classes. We need citizens [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > arguing that point with one of the more narrow-minded profs > in the department - fortunately, they weren't all like him!) Now I know why you were outraged by the invasion of the idiots recently...your opinion is similar to mine on this....did you actually go to presbyterian college? you're brave!! > Now I know why you were outraged by the invasion of the idiots > recently...your opinion is similar to mine on this....did you actually go to > presbyterian college? you're brave!! Not really! At the time I went there, Macalester was decidedly on the "progressive" side (and still is, SFAIK). Their Political Science department was second to none, and they've turned out quite a few idealistic politicians, diplomats and political journalists. (Including Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale and Kofi Anan.) It was also one of the top ten pre-med schools in the U.S. at that time. Unfortunately, it was the wrong school for an aspiring opera singer, but it was a mile from home and they gave me a scholarship. (Although I'd choose differently, if I had it to do over again.) > > Now I know why you were outraged by the invasion of the idiots > > recently...your opinion is similar to mine on this....did you actually go to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > scholarship. (Although I'd choose differently, if I had it > to do over again.) That's very interesting...i don't think we have any 'progressive' christian colleges down under (although I'm sure all those attending them would very enthusiastically inform me how progresssive they are, why only last week we...) They are either conservative, or, well , weird in that tv envangelist way, and conservative underneath. >> I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to their >> advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I mean. > >I'm not so sure it's deliberate! (Sometimes I think they >genuinely ARE not only weaker but stupider.) Men, in general, are stupider than women. Women, in general, insist upon marrying men. Therefore, women, in general, are stupider than men. SignatureWayne M (indulged by Will and Heidi) >>>I believe that men are not only the weaker sex, but try to use it to their >>>advantage by appearing stupider as well. You wives know what I mean. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > insist upon marrying men. Therefore, women, in general, are > stupider than men. Your logic is faulty. ;-) Women marry men so they will provide them and their children with a home. Being a single mom, nowadays, is easier than it once was, but it's still better to have two parents to share the load. (Especially since we don't yet have "equal pay for equal work", most places.) > Your logic is faulty. ;-) Women marry men so they will provide them > and their children with a home. Being a single mom, nowadays, is > easier than it once was, but it's still better to have two parents > to share the load. (Especially since we don't yet have "equal pay > for equal work", most places.) Your logic is faulty =P You're assuming all the women in question want children and/or need/want to be provided for. That being said, I do sometimes wonder, not so much about pay explicitly, but about the social dynamics of men and women in the work place. And then a friend suggested I read Women Don't Ask : Negotiation and the Gender Divide It hit me like a punch to the stomach. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Pamela Shirk wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > keep them there for twenty-four hours straight (with no way > of pushing responsibility for discipline off on someone else). I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. Blessed be, Baha >>Pamela Shirk wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health > class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. I second the motion! One reason a lot of kids are so undisciplined nowadays is that their parents' OWN parents had no idea how to discipline THEM! (Except for following THEIR parent's examples, which they may have considered too extreme and/or ineffective.) >>>Pamela Shirk wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >THEIR parent's examples, which they may have considered too >extreme and/or ineffective.) One of my favorite TV shows these days is SuperNanny. I have to confess, it's pure Schadenfreude to see these terrible children visited on these mostly clueless parents, who seem to lack the smallest morsel of common sense or consistency. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War >>>>Pamela Shirk wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Theresa For any who don't speak German (I only have a little) Schadenfreude = malicious pleasure I've watched that show. Saw it at a friend's house some years ago. The patten was predictable after two or three episodes. I don't know how they manage to find such misbehaved families. SignatureChristopher A. Young Do good work. It's longer in the short run but shorter in the long run. . . One of my favorite TV shows these days is SuperNanny. I have to confess, it's pure Schadenfreude to see these terrible children visited on these mostly clueless parents, who seem to lack the smallest morsel of common sense or consistency. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War >I've watched that show. Saw it at a friend's house some years ago. The >patten was predictable after two or three episodes. I don't know how they >manage to find such misbehaved families. I was a primary school teacher... believe me, there are PLENTY of junior juvenile delinquents out there for them to feature! I'd expect the problem would be finding parents who were willing to have their lack of parenting skills exposed on national television, for the sake of improving them. Signature~Karen aka Kajikit Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life http://www.kajikitscorner.com Online photo album - http://community.webshots.com/user/kajikit >>I've watched that show. Saw it at a friend's house some years ago. The >>patten was predictable after two or three episodes. I don't know how they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >lack of parenting skills exposed on national television, for the sake >of improving them. The key is that they are truly clueless. They have no idea that they are doing anything wrong. They are passive, and they seem to have no idea that raising children is an active, and sometimes necessarily confrontational process. The people with the worst children always seem to be passive people whom things "happen to." Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > The key is that they are truly clueless. They have no idea that they > are doing anything wrong. They are passive, and they seem to have no > idea that raising children is an active, and sometimes necessarily > confrontational process. The people with the worst children always > seem to be passive people whom things "happen to." My dad told me once that if I my kids liked me all the time, I was doing something wrong. It's actually true. You can't be your kid's best friend. They don't need a 40-year-old best friend. Your job is to teach them and love them, not to get them to like you. Sherry > > The key is that they are truly clueless. They have no idea that they > > are doing anything wrong. They are passive, and they seem to have no [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry And if you do it right, not only will other people like them, but when they grow up, they will like you. Joy > My dad told me once that if I my kids liked me all the time, I was > doing something wrong. > It's actually true. You can't be your kid's best friend. They don't > need a 40-year-old best friend. Your job is to teach them and love > them, not to get them to like you. I like your dad. I wish that someone would get around to teaching parents that they can't have it both ways. A teacher's life would be much easier. My kids were raised to know that if they told the truth, they'd get into trouble, but if they lied the trouble would be much worse. They got tired of me telling them that I am their mother, not their friend. and yes, there are times when they've all hated my guts. But they all know that Mom, and Dad, are there for them and will do what they can to help. Pam S. >> My dad told me once that if I my kids liked me all the time, I was >> doing something wrong. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pam S. One of the hardest things to watch when my brother died, was the effect on his son. The two of them were so close, that Mickey not only lost his father he lost his best friend. He really didn't have anyone close to help him through things. Jo > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health > class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. Or, alternatively, getting sterilized. I would have quit school..... No high school kid in their right mind wants to learn how to raise children. Yeah, but I didn't want to take PE and get trashed for being a complete sports spaz, nor did I want to take algebra because of the accident that took away my ability to crunch numbers. Alas, we are victims of the state. Blessed be, Baha > > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high > > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I would have quit school..... No high school kid in their right mind wants > to learn how to raise children. Unfortunately, that would allow the schools a lot of power to influence the next generation. Maybe for good, or maybe by teaching more of the politics that finds its way in to schools. Teach teen agers to raise good little <insert political description> and grow up and vote correctly. SignatureChristopher A. Young Do good work. It's longer in the short run but shorter in the long run. . . "Singh" <liznlou@localnet.com> wrote > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health > class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. Or, alternatively, getting sterilized. I would have quit school..... No high school kid in their right mind wants to learn how to raise children. > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health > class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. > > Blessed be, > Baha Interestingly enough, in queensland, we have this thing where in grade 10 home ec wehad to take an electronic baby home, it cries at random times, and you have to change/feed/cuddle until it stops, you can't tell which you have to do, so you do everything til it stops. you also have to support the head, it records how many mistakes you make and you got 'graded' for it...you can't turn it off and it cries at night too! It was a very good idea, but should be compulsory, and not just for home ec students. they have to keep the 'baby' for about a week, and take it everywhere with them. Some of our schools have them; I think we call it "Baby Think-it-Over." And you're right, I think it should be compulsory and not a home-ec elective. The problem is that Baby Think-it-Over is several hundred dollars, and the school systems that need it most are the ones who can least afford it. Blessed be, Baha > > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in high > > school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like health [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > should be compulsory, and not just for home ec students. they have to keep > the 'baby' for about a week, and take it everywhere with them. > Some of our schools have them; I think we call it "Baby > Think-it-Over." And you're right, I think it should be compulsory and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha Huh. When the idea was first conceived (no pun intended) they gave the young teens a 10 lb. bag of flour or sugar (I think flour was cheaper back then) and made them carry them around in blankies. They could NOT go out with their friends and leave the "baby"; they had to arrange for a baby-sitter. They were given a feeding schedule including getting up during the night. They had to stop and "change diapers" a specified number of times per day and night. Granted, it's not exactly the same thing as those "baby dolls" they use now which probably DO cost a lot of money. But the idea was sound. You can bet they got tired of hauling a 10 lb. bag of flour around all day :) Jill >>> I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in >>> high school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> compulsory, and not just for home ec students. they have to keep the >> 'baby' for about a week, and take it everywhere with them. >> Some of our schools have them; I think we call it "Baby >> Think-it-Over." And you're right, I think it should be compulsory and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the young teens a 10 lb. bag of flour or sugar (I think flour was > cheaper back then) and made them carry them around in blankies. They > could NOT go out with their friends and leave the "baby"; they had to > arrange for a baby-sitter. They were given a feeding schedule > including getting up during the night. They had to stop and "change [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Yeah, but if I was a high school kid, I'd dump my bag of flour in the corner as soon as I got home and ignore it until going to school the next day. Nobody can prove I didn't feed it during the night or change it's diapers. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Long ago, attending the local LDS church, there was a program where the Young Women's group had to carry around the sugar-sacks with little doll heads glued to them, as a similar experiment. What I found offensive was that the girls were MADE to shlep them around; for the Young Men it was optional! One girl "adopted out" her sugar-sack, which caused an uproar in the church, but she pointed out that it was her choice and that one thing the LDS is big on is the doctrine of free agency. Blessed be, Baha > > Some of our schools have them; I think we call it "Baby > > Think-it-Over." And you're right, I think it should be compulsory and [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> compulsory, and not just for home ec students. they have to keep the > >> 'baby' for about a week, and take it everywhere with them. What changes would you expect to see, in the teen population? SignatureChristopher A. Young Do good work. It's longer in the short run but shorter in the long run. . . Interestingly enough, in queensland, we have this thing where in grade 10 home ec wehad to take an electronic baby home, it cries at random times, and you have to change/feed/cuddle until it stops, you can't tell which you have to do, so you do everything til it stops. you also have to support the head, it records how many mistakes you make and you got 'graded' for it...you can't turn it off and it cries at night too! It was a very good idea, but should be compulsory, and not just for home ec students. they have to keep the 'baby' for about a week, and take it everywhere with them. > What changes would you expect to see, in the teen population? They are already electronic. Teens have cell phones permanently planted against their ears and pagers on their belts or purses. Heck, when I was a teen I couldn't even have a calculator :) Jill > > What changes would you expect to see, in the teen population? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill It is common for teenagers to waste time watching too much television. It is now common for teenagers to waste time on the Internet. It has long been common for teenagers to waste time on the telephone. With the convergence of video, data, and voice networking, we are enabling a new generation to waste time at the speed of light. >> Pamela Shirk wrote: >> >>> If you're as nutty as I am and watch the Red necked Comedy Tour, >>> you'll know that there is one part called "I Believe." In it the >>> comedians take turns giving comedic versions of life as they'd like >>> it. I got thinking last night and came up with a couple of personal >>> "I Believes." Please join in and help me work off some rant time. >>> >>> I believe that every parent who lets their children misbehave in >>> public, or worse thinks such misbehavior is cute, should be made to >>> stand in a corner along with their children. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I also believe that child-rearing should be a mandatory program in > high school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like > health class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. > Blessed be, > Baha Sure, that would be great for all those that actually want to have kids. But I knew in high school that I never wanted kids and now at age 33 I haven't changed my mind. I would have *freaked* if somebody had made me take a child rearing class in high school. I would still freak now. I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Sure, that would be great for all those that actually want to have > kids. But I knew in high school that I never wanted kids and now at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Britta I think it's great that any high school/twenties/thirties female has the maturity and good sense to realize they don't want kids and don't cave in to the pressures that suggest everybody ought to reproduce. My daughter doesn't have kids. I'm not sure she ever will. But that's fine by me. It's her decision. Don't feel bad--I don't do kids either and I have two of my own. I forgot how to "do" kids somewhere along the way after mine grew up. They get on my nerves. I don't babysit and avoid lengthy interaction with my sister's grandchildren. Sigh. If I had my own grandchildren I'm sure I'd change. Sherry Sherry >> Sure, that would be great for all those that actually want to have >> kids. But I knew in high school that I never wanted kids and now at [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Sherry Yes, well I guess that shows just how much I don't do kids. The pressure is quite enormous. Every single one of my friends back home has multiple kids by now. They all hang around together and talk about nothing but kids and pregnancy. Before we moved to Thailand, it was getting quite difficult to hang around with them because we just had nothing in common anymore. And these are dear friends that I've known since I was a kid. It would definitely have been easiest to just have one too, then I would have fit in. But I just can't even imagine it. Luckily my parents don't pressure me. They think the world is overpopulated enough. Dennis' mom doesn't pressure us either because Dennis' sister has 3 kids, so that great for us :-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> Pamela Shirk wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Sure, that would be great for all those that actually want to have > kids. But I knew in high school that I never wanted kids Me too! Of course older women (usually those who were pressuring their older children to hurry up and give them grandchildren) were always telling me I'd change my mind. They obviously didn't know my mind :) > age 33 I haven't changed my mind. I would have *freaked* if somebody > had made me take a child rearing class in high school. Hear hear! I'm 45 and I didn't even want to take the obligatory "home economics". Of course, turned out we didn't have to take the class. The school was still under construction. They had no stoves, no sewing machines, none of the equipment to teach us to become "good little homemmakers" :) It was basically a study hall. I didn't need a class, anyway... I figured out all on my own I love to cook and am pretty good at it. > I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! Same here. And I don't think children running around acting like monsters are "cute" but a lot of the parents sure seem to think so. Jill > >>> Pamela Shirk wrote: > >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> high school, perhaps as a part of the required health class; and like > >> health class, that one cannot graduate without passing such a course. Ah, health class. In our school, it was an extra course taught by the least senior gym teacher. This being 1965-6, we didn't have sex education per se, but there was "hygiene". Now, I had gotten permission, from the age of 10 or so, to check out medical books from the "locked section" of the library. By my senior year, I was doing some independent research, and had privileges at the Schering Pharmaceuticals library. My interests were in infectious disease and antibiotic resistance. It happened that I arrived late to my "health" class, and the teacher decided he would put me on the spot with embarrassing questions, from the unit on "social diseases". Normally, I would go through a mental preparation exercise before entering this class, as my schedule had put me in the section generally populated with would-be dropouts. On that day, however, I had not yet prepared myself, and was still in the mindset from the research library. "Well, Berkowitz, how nice of you to join us! Why don't you tell us what you think should be done if someone finds out they have *blush* *cough* syphilis?" "Ummm...1.2 million units of benzathine penicillin G intramuscularly in each buttock, and watch out for a Herxheimer reaction?" His face was an interesting study in something. > >> Blessed be, > >> Baha [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anyway... I figured out all on my own I love to cook and am pretty good at > it. I took the obligatory woodshop and drafting, and the shop instructor offered to pass me if I agreed not to sign up for another semester of destroying his classroom. Later, I became an adequate carpenter, but I was always a good cook. For myself, it was always clear that I knew about child raising; they rise on their hind legs rather like a bear. Alas, I am of the persuasion that cannot speak its name, the pedophobe. "Children! Ayeeeeee! RUN AWAY!" > > I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! > > Same here. And I don't think children running around acting like monsters > are "cute" but a lot of the parents sure seem to think so. > > Jill >> >>> Pamela Shirk wrote: >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > His face was an interesting study in something. I attended a private, church affiliated high school. Our poor biology instructor was so flustered when he got to the chapter in the book on reproduction that had a basic section on what is otherwise known as the rhythm method of birth control. He tried to explain it. (and to answer some "innocent" questions from the class) And essentially got the details backwards. Jo > I attended a private, church affiliated high school. Our poor biology > instructor was so flustered when he got to the chapter in the book on > reproduction that had a basic section on what is otherwise known as the > rhythm method of birth control. He tried to explain it. (and to answer > some "innocent" questions from the class) And essentially got the details > backwards. Next time, get a guest music instructor from the Catholic school, who can explain the Church's position on birth control: rhythm or blues. >> I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! > > Same here. And I don't think children running around acting like monsters > are "cute" but a lot of the parents sure seem to think so. > > Jill I never thought my kids acting like j*ck*ss*s was charming or cute when they were little, I don't think other people's kids acting like j*ck*ss*s now is cute, and I love kids. I once took my kids out of a restaurant, after ordering the meal, because they were fighting and acting up. I asked the waitress to cancel the order and please bring the bill for the drinks we'd already been served with. She was so totally impressed that I wouldn't tolerate bad behavior that she tried to give me the drinks for free. I told her that I didn't want the kids to learn that they could get out of a meal by acting up. That was the only time I ever had to ask for the tab before eating the meal. Kids need to know what the limits are and that parents will not tolerate bad behavior. Pam S. who is not afraid to be the parent and not my child's friend. > >> I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pam S. who is not afraid to be the parent and not my child's friend. You beat me to the punch Pam. I was also about to say that children who are properly reared do *NOT* act like monsters at any time in their lives. My 6 year old granddaughter will walk into a room, stand quietly until the adults reach a break in their conversation, say, "Excuse me", and then say what she came into the room to say*. She has done this from the time she first started talking. Even *before* they start talking children can be taught that good behavior gets them what they want and bad behavior does not. What too many parents don't understand is that they are *teaching* their children to be bad by "rewarding" bad behavior. *And the adults in the room do *NOT* immediately cut short their conversation to pay attention to her - thus giving her positive reinforcement for her interruption. She *does* get praised for being polite, however, when we do stop to address her after she has waited. Our family has talked about this lately, but in regard to the d*gs that have been here. My mother-in-law's d*gs are totally undisciplined. I tried to make her see that she is, in fact, abusing her d*gs by allowing them to behave badly. The vicious bitch (the d*g, not my MIL) almost bit my 6 year old granddaughter. If she had, or if she bites another child, which is likely, she will be euthanized (had it been my granddaughter I would have throttled her on the spot). By allowing her to continue her food aggression, she is putting her d*g's life in danger. The same goes for children. Allowing your children to grow up undisciplined is child abuse, pure and simple! Hugs, CatNipped > > >> I just don't do kids. No babysitting, minimal interaction, thank you! > > > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > CatNipped Amen! A couple of years ago I was talking on the phone to my son, who is now 41. I mentioned a discussion on another newsgroup, in which someone asserted that spanking was child abuse. Since Dan was spanked occasionally, I was interested in his take. I felt completely validated when he said, "A little spanking never hurt anybody." Of course there is a difference between spanking a child's bottom with the open hand and the type of abuse some parents wreak on their children. I used to get compliments on how well-behaved my children were. Joy > Our family has talked about this lately, but in regard to the d*gs that > have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > undisciplined > is child abuse, pure and simple! I've had the privilege of training four dogs properly. Four small poodles. The first was very difficult and did not want to learn. The other three were a dream. But all four were so damned pleased with themselves once they learned. We could take them anywhere off lead without a problem. So their live were much fuller than they would have been if they'd had to be confined to the house or yard. Now Charlie is bound and determined to get a border collie pup. Jo > > Our family has talked about this lately, but in regard to the d*gs that > > have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > live were much fuller than they would have been if they'd had to be confined > to the house or yard. Exactly! The same applies to children. My children were (and my grandchildren are) welcome anywhere. They grew up with lots of friends who (and whose parents) were always willing to have them in their homes. They got along well in school and in their careers. None of those good things will happen if a child doesn't learn how to interact well with others. If you don't teach your child to do so, *that's* child abuse. You don't need to even raise your voice (in fact, the quieter my mom's voice, the more trouble I knew I was in - when she whispered I knew I'd *really* screwed up ;>) You just need to be willing to be a *parent* to your child and *not* their friend - if you rear them right they'll have lots of friends and will be your friend when they are grown, but they *need* to have parents. Control, Consequences (emphasizing the good consequences of good behavior), and Consistancy is all it takes with either children or animals. Having said that, I can totally understand and appreciate the good sense of those who decide they don't want the job of rearing children. It's a *BIG* job with a lifetime or worry and responsibility. It's *SO* much better to decide to not have children than to have children and *then* decide it's a job you don't want to do! Hugs, CatNipped > Now Charlie is bound and determined to get a border collie pup. > > Jo > > Our family has talked about this lately, but in regard to the d*gs that > > have [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Now Charlie is bound and determined to get a border collie pup. Prepare to be herded. :-) > The same goes for children. Allowing your children to grow up undisciplined > is child abuse, pure and simple! You're right, of course - too bad more people don't see it that way! (Or recognize that a "spanking" - meaning a couple of swats on the padded rear with the palm of a parental hand - is not the same as "beating" a child.) > Hugs, > > CatNipped I believe that the world can be a better place I believe there can be peace I believe that we can feed the world I bleive that we don't have to pollute the world to live here I believe in a future for my children I beleive that every human have an incredible ability to do good I believe that animals have alot ot teach us I believe we should hug more and argue less I believe that everyone should carry a "point of view" gun (refer to the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy movie) and use it often I believe that there is more to this world than what our 5 sense can tell us I believe in miracles I believe in the power of love I believe that the world should be run by the under 5's, who don't yet know how to lie, who still have total faith in the world and indeed, themselves and those around them; who find a sock on the head hilariously funny, and hold no prentions about anything. They laugh when they think its funny, let everyone know when they aren't happy, and scratch where it itches. And the world's problems can be solved by Teddy, a hug and a kiss, and are forgotten 5 minutes later. I want the world run by those who know that fairies and magic are real and the worst thing is the boogy man who lives under the bed. Yowie {{{I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were run by post-menopausal women. Women are never subject to the need to appear "macho" and they are much more analytical in making choices - especially after the biological urge to reproduce has passed.}}} Ditto. Would women start a war then send their sons and daughters off to die? I believe...vandals and malicious grafitti artists and such should be made to wear hot pink jumpsuits for a period of time directly proportional to their crime...1 week minimum, in school, on the job, everywhere. I believe... there should be a separate area (like non-smoking) for cell phone users so we wouldn't have to listen to their conversations in resturants and...? I believe... health, dental, eye, hearing and housing should be affordable for everyone. Yeah, right... Not saying they have to be free, just affordable. Like that's going to happen. I believe...there should be a massive campaign to educate people about spaying and neutering and necessary vet care. It should be followed up with grants for mobil vet trucks to visit rural areas and vouchers for participating town vets. I'll climb off my soapbox now! PatM > {{{I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were > run by post-menopausal women. Women are never subject to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ditto. Would women start a war then send their sons and daughters off > to die? I believe that those who think it's a good idea to go to war should be the ones to do the fighting. Joy >>{{{I believe the world would be in MUCH better shape if it were >>run by post-menopausal women. Women are never subject to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I believe that those who think it's a good idea to go to war should be the > ones to do the fighting. Until the advent of "modern" warfare, that's the way it worked! (Of course the "vassals" didn't have much choice when their bosses wanted a war - but at least the guys who wanted it were LEADING, not safe behind the lines, somewhere.) I believe that when two people love each othery very much, they should lie their arses off when their three-year-old asks "Whatcha doing?" I belive that sex is only dirty if you do it right. I believe there is someone for everyone, and that some greedy b*st*rd got all the ones who are hot for 48-year-old male geeks with a warped sense of humor and a camera. I believe my wife is the wonderfullest person on the face of the earth, even after 18 years of living with me. Hugs and Purrs, Mark SignatureProof of Sanity Forged Upon Request <snip> > I believe my wife is the wonderfullest person on the face of the > earth, even after 18 years of living with me. <snip> I believe, Senyah just walked in the room. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk ><snip> >> I believe my wife is the wonderfullest person on the face of the >> earth, even after 18 years of living with me. ><snip> >I believe, Senyah just walked in the room. ;-) Nope, she was still in the other room arguing with Buster, over ownership of her tacos. Hugs and Purrs, Mark SignatureProof of Sanity Forged Upon Request >> <snip> >>> I believe my wife is the wonderfullest person on the face of the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hugs and Purrs, > Mark I believe you. :-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I believe that those who think it's a good idea to go to war should > be the ones to do the fighting. I found out recently that a distant friend of mine has signed up to be in the military, flying for the medics. His attitude is that while he doesn't support the war, as long as there is a war, there should be good people rather than bad fighting it. He hopes that if more people like him participate, fewer abuses of civilians etc. will occur. It's an interesting position. And kind of tangential to what you're saying, but it reminded me. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >Would women start a war then send their sons and daughters off >to die? Yes, they would ... and tell those sons and daughters, "Come back with your shield or on it." Part of the reason we sometimes think women would do a better job at governing our nations than men have been doing is that we have had less opportunity to observe them in the effort. SignatureWayne M (indulged by Will and Heidi) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: Wayne Mitchell <gwmitchell104@pobox.com> >Part of the reason we sometimes think women would do a better >job at governing our nations than men have been doing is that we >have had less opportunity to observe them in the effort. We just had a chance to see a woman in action. The governor of Louisiana did a hell of a fine job dealing with a crisis. Did she not? :) All the problems were someone else's fault according to her. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] :) > All the problems were someone else's fault according to her. Using Louisiana as an example of any kind of political or leadership skills is simply not valid. This is a state that once nominated a convicted criminal and the former leader of the Klu Klux Klan (both males) to run against each other for governor - and has the privelege of being the only state to be governed by a governor (male) who was locked up in an insane asylum during his term (and was still actively governing). Citizens of that state put more thought into who's going to be the king of Mardi Gras (Rex) than who's going to be governor. Politics in Louisiana are strictly for entertainment purposes and should by no means be taken seriously. Sorry if I offend other Louisianians, but I was born and reared there - I lived there for 40 years before I could get out - so I know of what I speak! There are thousands of things that Louisiana does right and should be proud of - politics is not one of them. Hugs, CatNipped > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: N/A [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > =V2Cf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > "Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message Lori, don't bother with Nomen. He's a troll as far as I'm concerned. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> "Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in >> message > > Lori, don't bother with Nomen. He's a troll as far as I'm concerned. It might be more effective to simply call him a jerk, if you must resort to name calling. The word "troll" has lost all objective meaning, outside of just someone whose posts you dislike. As unbelievable as it may be to some of us, there are people who annoy us without actually TRYING. The last objective defn. of "troll" is someone who intends to annoy to get a rise out of someone. People who annoy you because you do not like their opinions or they tend to get the upper hand in arguments and that annoys you are not necessarily trolls. > It might be more effective to simply call him a jerk, if you must resort to > name calling. The word "troll" has lost all objective meaning, outside of > just someone whose posts you dislike. As unbelievable as it may be to some Well, I think he outed himself as a troll when he said how much he enjoyed the abusive flooding we suffered a while back becase "we deserved it". > rise out of someone. People who annoy you because you do not like their > opinions or they tend to get the upper hand in arguments and that annoys you > are not necessarily trolls. I don't give a hoot about his opinions. :) It's his attitude that stinks. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> >Using Louisiana as an example of any kind of political or leadership skills >is simply not valid. This is a state that once nominated a convicted [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >CatNipped Interesting system they have in that state. But at least they put their loony politicians in an asylum. Here in Massachusetts, we nominate them for President. :) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >criminal and the former leader of the Klu Klux Klan (both males) to run >against each other for governor Do you remember the classic bumper sticker from the time of David Duke's campaign: "VOTE FOR THE CROOK" ? ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > Do you remember the classic bumper sticker from the time of David > Duke's campaign: "VOTE FOR THE CROOK" ? ;) Hmmm... how would you know which crook are they wanting you to vote for? SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Do you remember the classic bumper sticker from the time of David >> Duke's campaign: "VOTE FOR THE CROOK" ? ;) > > Hmmm... how would you know which crook are they wanting you to vote for? Sad, but all too true! It seems as though the genuine idealists don't have the kind of financial backing required, so the crooks tend to win without any real opposition. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> >Lori, don't bother with Nomen. He's a troll as far as I'm concerned. Which, of course, supports my point. Lori, being a woman, can't possibly have the mental capability to form her own opinions about me, or make her own choices about responding to me and needs a man (well, sort of :) ) like Victor to tell her how she should act. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about responding to me and needs a man (well, sort of :) ) like > Victor to tell her how she should act. I'm sure Victor wasn't being chauvinistic, he was simply trying to protect a friend from someone who has flamed her in the past - I don't think my sex has anything to do with it. However, I don't carry baggage in RL much less UseNet. I was replying to the comment not the commentator and the possibility of being flamed has never stopped me yet!. As to the sort of man Victor is - he is one I am proud to know and call my friend. Hugs, CatNipped > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: N/A [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > =raQW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> >I'm sure Victor wasn't being chauvinistic, he was simply trying to protect a >friend from someone who has flamed her in the past - I don't think my sex >has anything to do with it. However, I don't carry baggage in RL much less >UseNet. I was replying to the comment not the commentator and the >possibility of being flamed has never stopped me yet!. When the hell have I ever flamed you? The closest that I've come, in my memory, was to disapprove of the dogs being left behind. And that was born out of my philosophy that there is no such thing as futility. "Where there's a will, there's a way" and all that. In my view of the world, if I had to evacuate, drove a VW, and had a pet elephant.....well, it would have been a rather amusing sight on the highway. >As to the sort of man Victor is - he is one I am proud to know and call my >friend. Actually, I think he seems like a pretty nice guy. He doesn't like me, though, so I couldn't resist yankin' him a little since I know he's gay......Um......maybe I should have phrased that differently. :) I'm a "live and let live" kind of guy (at least up to a point, which is why I carry the Sig). Any problem I have with Victor revolves around his quickness to hang labels on people. In my case, "troll". And of course, calling me a "troll" is inaccurate since I post sincere words and thoughts that stand or fall on their own merit (with an occasional attempt at humor). And it does seem a little hypocritical to be labeled a "TROLL" by a "FAG". :) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>As to the sort of man Victor is - he is one I am proud to know and call my >>friend. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > And it does seem a little hypocritical to be labeled a "TROLL" > by a "FAG". :) Fairly well put. However, you yourself have proved fairly quick to accept the term "troll" when it is applied to others. Also hypocritical. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "cybercat" <boagrrl@hotmail.com> >Fairly well put. However, you yourself have proved fairly >quick to accept the term "troll" when it is applied to others. >Also hypocritical. I may be occasionally guilty of a sin of omission as opposed to a sin on commission. I don't think I've ever called anyone a troll (at least not seriously). But then again, I haven't always jumped into the middle of a usenet brawl to defend someone being unfairly labeled as a troll, either. So maybe I'm half guilty. Besides, I think the individual that you may be indirectly referring too is quite capable of defending herself against multiple opponents. :) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about responding to me and needs a man (well, sort of :) ) like > Victor to tell her how she should act. Well that was a silly thing to say. sarcasm aside, many don't get it and you will be branded a troll if you talk like that. i'm not saying you are one, just predicting how everyone will respond to that kind of foolishness. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: N/A [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > =raQW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "meee" <efamaaea@bigpond.net.au> >Well that was a silly thing to say. sarcasm aside, many don't get it This group does seem to be a bit comedically challenged. It must be the depression that's so pervasive in rpca. That's fine by me. I own stock in all the major antidepressant manufacturers so I make a little money every time one of them has an "episode". Prozac....Welbutrin.....Paxil......suck them down, folks. I'm putting an addition on my house. :) > and you >will be branded a troll if you talk like that. i'm not saying you are one, >just predicting how everyone will respond to that kind of foolishness. Too late. I've already been stamped with the dreaded "RPCA certified troll" label. Of course, if one of the regulars said that "the sky is brown" and someone corrected them and said that "the sky is blue", they'd be labeled a troll, also. *-----------------------------* RPCA CERTIFIED TROLL *-----------------------------* > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > and someone corrected them and said that "the sky is blue", they'd > be labeled a troll, also. I'm afraid to say anything now... :) JJ it's not just here, either. i think nearly every group suffers from one person who lurks then pops up to yell 'troll' > *-----------------------------* > RPCA [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > =iZAg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nomen N |
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