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jmcquown - 16 Oct 2005 12:34 GMT Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report someone if they were stealing? And do you ever get stressed? Of course I get stressed; who doesn't? And of course I'd report someone who was stealing.
Hello. It's a pet supply store. They sell birds and fish. Sometimes they have adoptions for cats and dogs, but mostly it's birds and fish.
I know about pets. I had a dog who lived for almost 18 years. I had a small goldfish who lived for 9 years, pretty remarkable for a small fish if you ask me. I've had birds since 1966. Persia came to me in 2001 and she seems to be pretty happy with her situation given that she sleeps on a big soft bed with me, has her own furniture, lots of toys, etc. Oh, and she boops me. LOL If that's not a happy cat, I don't know what is.
Peaches the lovebird isn't hurting for toys or attention, either. She's got some new wooden beads I strung for her and she's happily grabbing at them and chewing... hookbills chew on wood. It's what they do :)
So I can't wait to get the results back from this "test"... probably turn out I'm a serial killer. You can say you knew me when.
Jill
Gabey8 - 16 Oct 2005 15:20 GMT I think one of the things they're looking for, at least from my experience applying for work at a different nationwide pet supply chain, PetSmart, is that employees will be conscientous enough to do things like keep an eye open for the needs of ALL the animals they're selling. Even if it's not "officially" the employee's job, it's mandatory for people to at least report the situation if, say, the hamsters have run out of water.
Good luck -- I hope you get a job there, so you can spoil the pets-to-be and/or help coach other people how to spoil them properly. :o)
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Kreisleriana - 16 Oct 2005 16:42 GMT >Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where they >ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report someone if they [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Jill Ay yi yi. Oh well, good luck!
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jmcquown - 16 Oct 2005 17:26 GMT > Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where > they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report > someone if they were stealing? And do you ever get stressed? Of > course I get stressed; who doesn't? And of course I'd report someone > who was stealing. NOTE: I probably wouldn't notice if someone stuck a pen in their pocket. If they tried to stick a bird in their pocket (or a fish!) you betcha I'd notice :)
Jill
Kreisleriana - 16 Oct 2005 19:09 GMT >> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where >> they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Jill I just can't get over the sheer gall of these mostly minimum-wage, no-benefits employers, and how far up your butt they all seem to want to get. And they know they can, because they are last-resort employers for so many in this strange economy.
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Jo Firey - 16 Oct 2005 19:34 GMT >>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where >>> they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to get. And they know they can, because they are last-resort > employers for so many in this strange economy. Living long gives you perspective. You will get to see those same employers scrambling to turn nice in order to keep their no longer quite minimum wage employees when the economy rights itself again. What goes around comes around and the first casualty is usually the baby hitler first line supervisors who cannot adjust to acting human.
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jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 03:13 GMT >>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Make Levees, Not War Oh heck... I just want a part time job and probably just over the holidays until the art shows start up again. I don't really care about benefits or the salary. I just want to get out of the "corporate" environment where they make you carry a pager and be on call 24/7 and all that crap. I can't imagine carrying a pager selling pet supplies.
Jill
Magic Mood Jeep© - 17 Oct 2005 03:26 GMT >>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill Well - they just *might*. I know a lot of retail 'box' stores have gone to the handheld radio as the choise of communication between associates.
Kreisleriana - 17 Oct 2005 05:14 GMT >>>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Well - they just *might*. I know a lot of retail 'box' stores have gone to >the handheld radio as the choise of communication between associates. I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know where you are all the time, and vice versa. And the people were talking about this with great enthusiasm as if it were the greatest thing. It SO creeped me out. Pretty soon, when you go to work for someone, they'll want to "chip" you. :P
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jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 11:57 GMT >>>>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Theresa Now that *is* creepy. Sometimes I wish - in fact a LOT of times I wish! - I were born before the turn of the last century. Technology does have downsides. Besides, the dresses were prettier way back when ;)
Jill
Shiral - 17 Oct 2005 20:34 GMT Yeah, but the corsets were murder. =o) Medical and dental care probably were, too. At very least, they were a lot more crude and painful.
I love vintage clothes, don't get me wrong. But as COSTUMES to be worn occasionally. Not for every day wear while I'm working. Especially not in the summer.
I agree being tracked and/or chipped is creepy, and i'm glad MY boss doesn't make me wear a pager 24/7. Working for people is fine, being owned by them is not. But a century ago, working women undoubtedly had more and worse frustrations than that on the job.
Melissa
jmcquown - 18 Oct 2005 00:43 GMT > Yeah, but the corsets were murder. =o) I've actually worn corsets and stays and you're right, they aren't a picnic
:) Medical and dental care
> probably were, too. At very least, they were a lot more crude and > painful. Well hey, morphine and laudanum were freely flowing (except in times of war).
> I love vintage clothes, don't get me wrong. But as COSTUMES to be worn > occasionally. Not for every day wear while I'm working. Especially not > in the summer. Have you ever worn a hoop skirt? They are surprisingly cool!
> I agree being tracked and/or chipped is creepy, and i'm glad MY boss > doesn't make me wear a pager 24/7. Working for people is fine, being > owned by them is not. But a century ago, working women undoubtedly > had more and worse frustrations than that on the job. > > Melissa Did you ever see any of the PBS (public television) series starting off with 1900 House (taped in Britain) which led to Frontier House (U.S.) and later Colonial House? There may have been one more after that. Now these are ultimate *reality shows* :)
Jill
meee - 18 Oct 2005 02:25 GMT > > Yeah, but the corsets were murder. =o) > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill they did that in australia, running a 19th century sheep farm...one guy broke his leg, fell off a horse or something.....
Stormin Mormon - 19 Oct 2005 14:45 GMT One episode of the show "Quincy" some years ago. Quincy traded pagers with the boss, on the first day the pagers came out. Every time the boss had Quincy paged (which was several times a day) the pager went off that the boss was wearing.
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I agree being tracked and/or chipped is creepy, and i'm glad MY boss doesn't make me wear a pager 24/7. Working for people is fine, being owned by them is not. But a century ago, working women undoubtedly had more and worse frustrations than that on the job.
Melissa
Duke of URL - 18 Oct 2005 19:23 GMT jmcquown @ jmcquown@bellsouth.net
> Now that *is* creepy. Sometimes I wish - in fact a LOT of times I > wish! - I were born before the turn of the last century. Technology > does have downsides. Besides, the dresses were prettier way back > when ;) Heh. Trust me (or rather trust the horror stories my grandmother told), you would NOT have liked it - it seems that corsets were invented by the same fellow who created the rack and the iron maiden...
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John F. Eldredge - 19 Oct 2005 03:18 GMT >jmcquown @ jmcquown@bellsouth.net > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >would NOT have liked it - it seems that corsets were invented by the same >fellow who created the rack and the iron maiden... Well, metaphorically so, anyway. As far as I know, corsets were a 19th-century invention, the iron maiden is medieval, and the rack goes back to classical times.
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>> jmcquown @ jmcquown@bellsouth.net >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 19th-century invention, the iron maiden is medieval, and the rack goes > back to classical times. So? Are you under the impression that evil undeads can't last that long?
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Adrian - 17 Oct 2005 12:36 GMT > I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know > where you are all the time, and vice versa. And the people were > talking about this with great enthusiasm as if it were the greatest > thing. It SO creeped me out. Pretty soon, when you go to work for > someone, they'll want to "chip" you. :P There are a lot of people who would love to do that now, if they could get away with it.
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Lesley - 17 Oct 2005 14:46 GMT .
> I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know > where you are all the time, and vice versa. I've worked for a place that had a tracking system in place but it was more a side effect of the fact that parts of the building were off limits to the public and other parts weren't so we all had a sensor card round our necks to open doors and they had a programme, which meant that if someone called for you and you weren't at your desk they could work out which office you last entered. I could live with it
Then again a friend of mine worked above a company that used the system to produce a graph of who spent too much time in the toilet every week! I don't think I could have lived with that
Lesley
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Jane - 17 Oct 2005 16:43 GMT >Then again a friend of mine worked above a company that used the >system to produce a graph of who spent too much time in the toilet >every week! I don't think I could have lived with that I worked for a boss once who had a co-worker watch me (unknown to me) and he told me later that I 'hadn't spent enough time in the bathroom to warrent being out the day before for a bladder infection.' He got his wish. I was out of that place so fast, on to a better job, and last I heard, he was painting houses for a living. I had nightmares for two weeks after leaving that job - he was just that horrible of a boss.
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Marina - 17 Oct 2005 16:43 GMT > I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know > where you are all the time, and vice versa. And the people were > talking about this with great enthusiasm as if it were the greatest > thing. It SO creeped me out. Pretty soon, when you go to work for > someone, they'll want to "chip" you. :P Ubiquitous computing is a serious research field at my university department. It sounds horrible to me - not only are others allowed to track you all the time, your mobile phone (or other device) chooses a few options of what you might want to do next. Argh! Gives me the creeps each time I read one of those project reports or articles.
Talk about Big Brother watching you.
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 17 Oct 2005 22:49 GMT > > I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you > > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Talk about Big Brother watching you. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, for appropriate environments. Some of my work deals with ubiquitous computing in hospitals. The applications include finding the nurse or aide, not currently busy, who is closest to the room with a patient calling for help. When someone isn't available, we have some fairly complex algorithms to queue service requests by priority and by person who can serve.
Another application tags units of blood and other hazardous medications, so alarms go off if they get close to a patient that is of another blood type, is allergic, etc.
In large open areas, such as nurseries and emergency rooms, we use it to locate specific patients. Tagging is one end of ubiquitous computing. The other end, wall-sized displays and virtual reality gloves, are becoming useful in managing such things as workflow in the surgical suite: the OR manager can literally move a patient out of the OR and into recovery, or change the order of patients waiting for an OR.
Many hospitals tag babies to avoid kidnapping and accidental switches between bassinets.
Marina - 18 Oct 2005 04:27 GMT > I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, for appropriate environments. Some > of my work deals with ubiquitous computing in hospitals. In hospitals it can be useful, yes, but the scenarios I read are about ubiquitous computing pretty much running a person's private life.
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 19 Oct 2005 18:57 GMT >> > I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you >> > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, for appropriate environments. Some The problem is that it may be DEVELOPED for situations with a special need for monitoring and caution like a hospital, but the employers would like to use it to make sure that Mary and Dick aren't spending an extra thirty seconds at their regulation breaktime to chat, or to monitor restroom breaks and so on. Things have nothing whatsoever to do with job efficiency and come under the heading of personal business. I find it revolting...
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 19 Oct 2005 20:28 GMT > >> > I just saw a video about tracking systems inside of offices-- if you > >> > worked at Apple, for example, everybody else would be able to know [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > do with job efficiency and come under the heading of personal > business. I find it revolting... I agree that employee tracking, as you describe, is an abuse. Given the number of preventable errors in hospitals, I certainly don't want the technology banned.
jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 12:04 GMT >>>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > gone to the handheld radio as the choise of communication between > associates. As long as they don't expect me to carry it when I'm not at work I'm fine with that. If the store is so big that they need something like a walkie-talkie to find me, okey doke.
One of the reasons I do NOT want to get back into computer stuff is I'm not willing to be on call 24/7 with a pager, cell phone, yada yada yada. You won't find me carrying my cell phone unless I'm out of town. I had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the world of cell phones in 2004, and only then because I started to travel and my parents are elderly.
If I'm in a restaurant or at the movies, whatever, you can just try to call me at home later. If I want to talk to you, leave me a message, I'll call you back. IMHO, nothing is so terribly urgent that I must be reachable anywhere, at any time, unless someone died. And if someone died, what would you like me to do about it?!
Jill
Kreisleriana - 17 Oct 2005 15:04 GMT >>>>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >Jill I'm totally in agreement with you. Every human being should have the right to have their "off-the-map" time. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
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Lesley - 17 Oct 2005 16:02 GMT > I'm totally in agreement with you. Every human being should have the > right to have their "off-the-map" time. Or as I call it a "sanity break" which I tend to need about 2-3 times a week. the SO thinks I am having a post-work drink with colleagues and they think I have gone home to the SO and the Fabulous Furballs....In fact I am sitting in the pub for half an hour, with a cold beer and the newspaper....(luckily he doesn't read this ng!)
Hmmm....Give me another half hour and I'm on my way to one!
Lesley
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Wayne Mitchell - 17 Oct 2005 17:39 GMT >One of the reasons I do NOT want to get back into computer stuff is I'm not >willing to be on call 24/7 with a pager, cell phone, yada yada yada. You >won't find me carrying my cell phone unless I'm out of town. Was it the "Kathy" comic strip a couple months ago that had a strip where all the people who were on vacation were contact-able by e-mail and pager, but the one person who had actually come to work couldn't be located?
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jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 23:46 GMT >> One of the reasons I do NOT want to get back into computer stuff is >> I'm not willing to be on call 24/7 with a pager, cell phone, yada [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > contact-able by e-mail and pager, but the one person who had > actually come to work couldn't be located? Don't know, but it sounds a lot like my last job! This was before they went to 24/7 tech support. My shift started at 7AM. I'd arrive around 6:30 to allow myself time to get coffee (usually was the first one around so I made a couple of pots for everyone else). This also allowed time to make sure the #(%#!*& excuse for a laptop would boot up *before* the phone system turned on. Never failed, if I had a day off, the other two people who were supposed to be there for that shift called in sick or had some sort of emergency requiring them to be an hour or so late. There's a reason I don't answer my phone ;)
Jill
Kreisleriana - 17 Oct 2005 05:11 GMT >>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >the salary. I just want to get out of the "corporate" environment where >they make you carry a pager and be on call 24/7 and all that crap. Can't say I'm crazy about that either. I'm just too much of a free spirit, I guess. I don't even carry my cell phone around.
> I can't >imagine carrying a pager selling pet supplies. Oh well, it's always something. Are they going to drug-test you, too?
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jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 11:54 GMT >>>>> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >>>>> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Make Levees, Not War LOL They probably will if they call me. Nothing for me to worry about unless they are testing for drugs dealing with depression.
Jill
Enfilade - 17 Oct 2005 15:09 GMT > I just can't get over the sheer gall of these mostly minimum-wage, > no-benefits employers, and how far up your butt they all seem to want > to get. And they know they can, because they are last-resort > employers for so many in this strange economy. I have to strike a strange balance between outright lying (which I don't like to do, plus they can legally fire you if you lie on these things) and trying to cover the fact that I really don't like dealing with strangers. I CAN, and I can do it well--it's just not natural to me.
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Jo Firey - 17 Oct 2005 18:02 GMT >> I just can't get over the sheer gall of these mostly minimum-wage, >> no-benefits employers, and how far up your butt they all seem to want [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > with strangers. I CAN, and I can do it well--it's just not natural to > me. Reminds me of the time my boss and I caught each other staying late to get some statistical typing done. We had to make a pact then and there to never divulge that ability to anyone else.
Jo
Bill Stock - 16 Oct 2005 17:42 GMT > Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where they > ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report someone if [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > So I can't wait to get the results back from this "test"... probably turn > out I'm a serial killer. You can say you knew me when. Serial cooker I think. Will you still remember us when you're a rich and famous chef?
> Jill jmcquown - 16 Oct 2005 18:34 GMT >> Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, >> where they ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Serial cooker I think. Will you still remember us when you're a rich > and famous chef? Ha! When dinosaurs walk the earth... :) Having worked in several restaurants, both in front and back of the house, I can tell you the only chefs who make any money have published cookbooks galore and are featured on FoodTV. They don't have to be very good at it, either. It's not a job I aspire to!
Persia just spotted a small dog walking by the front window. She's all agape and puffy tailed :) It always amazes me how that slender tail can suddenly poof up to 4 times normal size!
Jill
meee - 17 Oct 2005 02:09 GMT > Funny thing. I had to take a "psych" test (online). You know, where they > ask you if you'd steal pens or whatever and would you report someone if they [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jill LOL!! DH applied for a job as shelf stacker at coles and had to fill one out, plus an iq test!! What the...!!?? exactly how smart do you have to be to stack shelves??
Karen AKA Kajikit - 19 Oct 2005 18:50 GMT >LOL!! DH applied for a job as shelf stacker at coles and had to fill one >out, plus an iq test!! What the...!!?? exactly how smart do you have to be >to stack shelves?? Maybe it was a reverse test so they wouldn't employ anyone too intelligent... I know i'd be bored out of my skull doing something like that.
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meee - 20 Oct 2005 01:13 GMT > >LOL!! DH applied for a job as shelf stacker at coles and had to fill one > >out, plus an iq test!! What the...!!?? exactly how smart do you have to be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > intelligent... I know i'd be bored out of my skull doing something > like that. maybe...needless to say he didn't bother...he's working for a demolition company now...
Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Oct 2005 01:52 GMT >>LOL!! DH applied for a job as shelf stacker at coles and had to fill >>one out, plus an iq test!! What the...!!?? exactly how smart do you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > intelligent... I know i'd be bored out of my skull doing something > like that. I have actually heard about screening like that for certain jobs. Call it an aptitude test.
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Lesley - 20 Oct 2005 10:54 GMT > Maybe it was a reverse test so they wouldn't employ anyone too > intelligent... I know i'd be bored out of my skull doing something > like that. I know I once went for a job and I scored 100% on the tests etc etc but they didn't give it to me because they said it was obvious that I was too clever and would soon get bored!
I always wondered what they would say if the person who got the job asked them "Why did you pick me?" Would they reply "Because you were the moron"?
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Pamela Shirk - 21 Oct 2005 17:48 GMT > I always wondered what they would say if the person who got the job > asked them "Why did you pick me?" Would they reply "Because you were > the moron"? > > Lesley You owe me a new keyboard, Lesley. I was drinking a soda when I read this and now I remember why I keep a spare in the closet.
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Adrian - 22 Oct 2005 14:54 GMT Pamela Shirk wrote:
>> I always wondered what they would say if the person who got the job >> asked them "Why did you pick me?" Would they reply "Because you were [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. I learnt long ago, it's not safe to eat or drink while reading this group. ;-)
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