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CatNipped - 14 Oct 2005 03:30 GMT
Whinge to you in the UK.

I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems are
insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience with me.

My life has been drastically changed.  But it's not the big things that are
getting to me.  It's not the fact that there is no longer any silence in my
house before 10PM.  It's not the fact that most of my house looks like an
explosion in a clothes factory.  It's not the fact that I can mop my kitchen
floor 10 times a day and five minutes later there are jelly spills tracked
across it.  It's not even the fact that the girls used my roll-top
secretary's desk to put on fingernail polish - and then used fingernail
polish remover to try to wipe up the spills.

It's that my house is filled with flies because the girls go in and out 20
times an hour - I went to take a drink from my glass of milk just now and
saw a fly swimming for his life.  It's that I have to have a baby gate on my
bedroom door so the dog can't get to the cats' food and I have to step over
it 50 times a day (and my poor cats pretty much stay in that one room - even
though they can jump the gate, Jessie and Bandit are the only ones brave
enough to beat up the dog and Bandit can't jump the gate).

I just miss my quiet life and my spotless, obsessively-compulsively clean
house.  I love my daughter and my granddaughters, but it's just hard living
in the same house with them.

OK I'll quit whining now.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 14 Oct 2005 03:58 GMT
> OK I'll quit whining now.

Whine all you want. :) Isn't there a program to put displaced people
from Katrina in temporary homes? It would put your daughter closer to
her home and make it easier to supervise reconstruction.

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CatNipped - 14 Oct 2005 14:40 GMT
> > OK I'll quit whining now.
>
> Whine all you want. :) Isn't there a program to put displaced people
> from Katrina in temporary homes? It would put your daughter closer to
> her home and make it easier to supervise reconstruction.

FEMA is providing small trailers if you have a place to put them that has
gas, electric, and water hook-ups.  Other than that they are giving people
$2,300 per month for housing (up to a total of $26,000).

Since Erin and Greg didn't own their home (it's still in my and my ex
husband's name - don't ask, long story), they didn't have insurance on it
and they can't get the Small Business Administration's low-interest loan for
home owners.  So I told them to bank the FEMA money to use on rebuilding and
refurnishing the house (I finally got my ex husband to agree to sign the
house over to my daughter - yeah, now that it's worth zilch!).  We did just
find out that families that are necessarily separated (husband in N.O.
working and rebuilding - mother and children in a different city because
there are no open schools at home) can get a trailer for the husband *and*
the monthly living allowance.  So they're going to park the trailer at the
house so Greg can come home from work and work on the house and then just
crash there instead of having to drive an hour back to his aunt's house.

It's really not that bad for me now that my mother-in-law and sister-in-law
have moved in with Ben's aunt - my daughter is like me and cleans and does
yard work when she is upset or just bored.  It's just that with 3 children
in the house you're just *not* going to have a clean house no matter how
much you clean.  And I'm an old lady who's set in her ways - gawd, when did
that happen!!!!??????

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 14 Oct 2005 15:19 GMT
> home owners.  So I told them to bank the FEMA money to use on rebuilding and
> refurnishing the house (I finally got my ex husband to agree to sign the
> house over to my daughter - yeah, now that it's worth zilch!).  We did just

Excellent! And I agree on using the FEMA money that way.

> find out that families that are necessarily separated (husband in N.O.
> working and rebuilding - mother and children in a different city because
> there are no open schools at home) can get a trailer for the husband *and*
> the monthly living allowance.  So they're going to park the trailer at the

Most excellent!

> It's really not that bad for me now that my mother-in-law and sister-in-law
> have moved in with Ben's aunt - my daughter is like me and cleans and does
> yard work when she is upset or just bored.  It's just that with 3 children

Well, if she ever gets bored, send her over here! ;-)

> in the house you're just *not* going to have a clean house no matter how
> much you clean.  And I'm an old lady who's set in her ways - gawd, when did
> that happen!!!!??????

Well, you keep a nice clean home, I certainly would be annoyed if my
house was suddenly a mess. Wait, did I just say that? ;-)
Anyhow, I know how children can be, whenever we have friends with kids
come over, it's like a little tornado went by the living room. I
actually have to remind them to sit down and eat their ice-cream so that
we don't get ice-cream smeared all over the house. They wanted to walk
around chasing kitties *while* eating ice-cream!

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cybercat - 14 Oct 2005 04:05 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
> OK I'll quit whining now.

Poor Lori. :(
Jo Firey - 14 Oct 2005 04:09 GMT
I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually live
here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they did.  I
still never know who I'll find sleeping in my house when I wake up in the
morning.

Useless note to anyone out there that doesn't mop their own floors:  Pouring
a drink into a glass while standing in front of the refrigerator will result
in dribbles on the floor.  Unless it is water they will first be a sticky
spot, and then a dirty spot.  I get surly when I have to clean up the spots
more than once a day.  Also, a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned
up with a dry paper towel.  Neither can jelly, peanut butter, margarine,
mayonnaise, mustard, ketchup, etc.

Night before last I went to take a sip from my glass of lemonade containing
the very last of my very good tequila.  And found a fly doing the
backstroke.  Adds insult to injury when you have to pour tequila down the
drain.

Jo

> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
> CatNipped
Sandy - 14 Oct 2005 04:17 GMT
> Also, a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned up with a dry paper
> towel.

In case anyone's interested, this applies to keyboards as well as kitchen
floors.

Sandy, speaking from recent, painful experience
Monique Y. Mudama - 14 Oct 2005 17:56 GMT
>> Also, a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned up with a dry
>> paper towel.
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>
> Sandy, speaking from recent, painful experience

I once shorted out a Dell keyboard by spilling a glass of cran/peach
juice on it.

Btw, cran/peach is a horrible combination.

Oh, and I had a new keyboard at my doorstep within 24 hours, no
charge.

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Jane - 14 Oct 2005 18:28 GMT
>> In case anyone's interested, this applies to keyboards as well as
>> kitchen floors.
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>I once shorted out a Dell keyboard by spilling a glass of cran/peach
>juice on it.

I once spilled a whole cup of coffee into the keyboard of the terminal
connected to the supercomputer. Fortunately, the field engineer was
close by and quickly took it apart to clean it out, but even more
fortunately, this was 1979 and the 'supercomputer' was an IBM 370.
The terminal was a paper terminal.

Oh dear, is my age showing?   *blush*

Jane
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Christina Websell - 14 Oct 2005 18:52 GMT
>>> Also, a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned up with a dry
>>> paper towel.
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> Oh, and I had a new keyboard at my doorstep within 24 hours, no
> charge.

I destroyed my last keyboard a few weeks ago by reaching for a book to
answer a query on here.  As I took the book from it's place, the other books
slid sideways, knocking my Galileo thermometer over, on to the keyboard.
Smash!  End of Galileo thermometer and end of keyboard :-(

Tweed
badwilson - 15 Oct 2005 04:06 GMT
>>>> Also, a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned up with a dry
>>>> paper towel.
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>
> Tweed

I recently saw these keyboards at the computer mall that were all
rubber.  You could roll them up.  Very cool!  They came in all sorts
of funky colours.  I think I might get me one.  I'd have nothing to
worry about with drinks on the desk, etc.
--
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Kreisleriana - 14 Oct 2005 04:21 GMT
>I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually live
>here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they did.  I
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>
>Jo

Dear people, please be assured I mean no offense or disrespect, but
really . . .

Good God, people, what is wrong with your relatives?  Were they *all*
raised by wolves or something????!!!!

Theresa
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Jo Firey - 14 Oct 2005 04:29 GMT
>>I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
>>live
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> Good God, people, what is wrong with your relatives?  Were they *all*
> raised by wolves or something????!!!!

My grandsons are 17, 16 and 8.  They arrive and leave with miscellaneous
assorted friends.  Their Grandpa isn't getting any younger and his eyesight
isn't what it once was.  At some point I got tired and gave up.

I still remember one of younger daughters boyfriends.  A guy named Frankie.
Daughter never understood how I always knew immediately if he had been in
the house.  He never walked in the house without getting something to drink
and spilling part of it.  He never cleaned up the spill properly.  I always
stuck to the floor when I got home from work if he had been over.

Oh, no offense taken.  I'm pretty sure I gave that up somewhere along the
line as well.

Jo
Karen - 14 Oct 2005 05:28 GMT
>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
>> live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they
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>
> Make Levees, Not War

ROFL!
mlbriggs - 14 Oct 2005 06:33 GMT
>>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
>>> live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they
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>
> ROFL!

With wolves (or dogs) the spots would have been licked up.
When Rex (Cocker RB 16) was alive, there never were crumbs or spills on
the floor.    MLB
Jo Firey - 14 Oct 2005 07:57 GMT
>>>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
>>>> live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they
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> When Rex (Cocker RB 16) was alive, there never were crumbs or spills on
> the floor.    MLB

I'd forgotten our little four pound perpetual motion floor cleaning machine.
Yes the sticky spots would have been licked up in no time when they lived
here.

Cats won't do that.

Jo
Victor Martinez - 14 Oct 2005 05:33 GMT
> Good God, people, what is wrong with your relatives?  Were they *all*
> raised by wolves or something????!!!!

Hehehehe... some of us are just naturally messy. :)  When I was growing
up in Mexico, we used to have a stay-with-us maid that would warn me to
not use her kitchen at all. If I wanted a snack, I was to ask her for
it. She said it was less trouble to fix me a snack than to let me do it
myself and then clean after me. Also, she was supposed to not clean my
room, that was my chore. I never bothered to clean my room and she
couldn't handle to look at the mess and she ended up cleaning my room
all the time.
Sigh. That's one of the things I miss the most about Mexico, being able
to afford a maid. :(
Can you tell I hate cleaning? :)

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badwilson - 14 Oct 2005 07:08 GMT
>> Good God, people, what is wrong with your relatives?  Were they *all*
>> raised by wolves or something????!!!!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> to let me do it myself and then clean after me. Also, she was
> supposed to not clean my room, that was my chore. I never bothered
to
> clean my room and she couldn't handle to look at the mess and she
> ended up cleaning my room all the time.
> Sigh. That's one of the things I miss the most about Mexico, being
> able to afford a maid. :(
> Can you tell I hate cleaning? :)

Yeah, maids rock.  I'll miss that when we move to Australia.  But then
again, we'll have a kitchen with countertops higher than for midgets!
And a dishwasher!  And the whole place won't be so dirty all the time!
Speaking of maids, our maid finally quit.  She's been wanting to move
back to her home town and tend to the family banana farm.  She got
wind that we were leaving soon so she left first.  It was sad, she
cried and so did I and then Dennis embarrassed the hell out of her buy
hugging her :-)
Now we have a new maid, she's from next door.  She's nice too but I'm
ashamed to say that I've forgotten her name already.  She's only been
here a week but still...now I'd feel like a total jerk to ask for her
name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal like
Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is called ;-)
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Victor Martinez - 14 Oct 2005 07:12 GMT
> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal like
> Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is called ;-)

Porn is a name in Thai? ;-)

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badwilson - 14 Oct 2005 07:43 GMT
>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal like
>> Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is called
>> ;-)
>
> Porn is a name in Thai? ;-)

Yeah, it's a very common women's name.  Sometimes it's part of a
longer name, either something ending in -porn or it begins with Porn
and has stuff added to the end.
You know that saying about Tom, Dick and Harry?  Well in Thailand and
with women, it would be Porn, Noo and Ning :-)
--
Britta
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Sandy - 14 Oct 2005 07:44 GMT
>> Porn is a name in Thai? ;-)
>
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> --
> Britta

Then the woman I work with named Vipaporn must be Thai.

Sandy
badwilson - 14 Oct 2005 10:48 GMT
>>> Porn is a name in Thai? ;-)
>>
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>
> Sandy

Yes, for sure.  That's definitely a Thai name.
--
Britta
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jmcquown - 15 Oct 2005 18:59 GMT
>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal like
>> Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is called
>> ;-)
>
> Porn is a name in Thai? ;-)

Why does Pritchiporn come to mind?  Our maids were Alum and her daughter
Dook.  Once we had one named Uhn which means fat.  She used to say in her
broken English "Me Fat!" and giggle like mad.

Jill
badwilson - 16 Oct 2005 03:17 GMT
>>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal
>>> like Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Jill

That was probably her nickname.  They are big on nicknames here,
everyone has one and they go by them more than their real names.
Probably because their real names are so long!  They usually pick a
nickname that "suits" them.
They are also not shy about pointing out your physical assets.  Before
I lost 35 lbs, I used to get patted all the time and called fat.  Or
they would rub my belly and ask when my baby is due.  Or they would
deny me access to the changing room, saying that the item I wanted to
try on wouldn't fit anyway.  How rude!  Except it's not considered
rude here so I couldn't take it too seriously.  Still, I feel much
better now that I can actually fit into a size XL here and don't get
those comments anymore.
--
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jmcquown - 17 Oct 2005 11:27 GMT
>>>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal
>>>> like Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> everyone has one and they go by them more than their real names.
> Probably because their real names are so long!

Yes indeed!  I wonder what nickname the King goes by?  Bhumi?  LOL  It's
nearly impossible to prounounce most full Thai names.

> They are also not shy about pointing out your physical assets.  Before
> I lost 35 lbs, I used to get patted all the time and called fat.  Or
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> better now that I can actually fit into a size XL here and don't get
> those comments anymore.

It's pretty funny.  Custom says don't touch anyone on the head, very rude!
But spitting on the sidewalk in Bangkok is perfectly acceptable.  Oh, and
they didn't mind tugging on my blonde hair, either, although I didn't
appreciate it much!

Jill
badwilson - 17 Oct 2005 12:06 GMT
>>>>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal
>>>>> like Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Yes indeed!  I wonder what nickname the King goes by?  Bhumi?  LOL
> It's nearly impossible to prounounce most full Thai names.

Oh, shush, Jill!  One does not talk about the King in a joking manner
;-) And I certainly don't think he has a nickname.

>> They are also not shy about pointing out your physical assets.
>> Before I lost 35 lbs, I used to get patted all the time and called
>> fat.  Or they would rub my belly and ask when my baby is due.  Or
>> they would deny me access to the changing room, saying that the
item
>> I wanted to try on wouldn't fit anyway.  How rude!  Except it's not
>> considered rude here so I couldn't take it too seriously.  Still, I
>> feel much better now that I can actually fit into a size XL here
and
>> don't get those comments anymore.
>
> It's pretty funny.  Custom says don't touch anyone on the head, very
> rude! But spitting on the sidewalk in Bangkok is perfectly
> acceptable.  Oh, and they didn't mind tugging on my blonde hair,
> either, although I didn't appreciate it much!

I know, what's rude here is way different from what's rude where we're
from.  They think nothing about picking their nose in public and they
even play with their boogers.  They ask you how much money you make
and how much you weigh.  They constantly ask you how much stuff you've
bought cost.  They make comments about your body.
But you're not supposed to touch heads or point with your foot.  Oooh,
that bad evil foot pointing, LOL!  And you constantly have to take
your shoes off.  Oh yeah, and you're not allowed to drive with your
headlights on during the day.  Only the Royal Family's allowed to do
that.
--
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jmcquown - 18 Oct 2005 00:55 GMT
>>>>>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal
>>>>>> like Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Oh, shush, Jill!  One does not talk about the King in a joking manner
> ;-) And I certainly don't think he has a nickname.

Betcha he does have a nickname among his family, but only in the privacy of
the palace!  You know he was born in the U.S.

>> It's pretty funny.  Custom says don't touch anyone on the head, very
>> rude! But spitting on the sidewalk in Bangkok is perfectly
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> But you're not supposed to touch heads or point with your foot.  Oooh,
> that bad evil foot pointing, LOL!

Don't step on a coin, either... that's an affront to the King!

 And you constantly have to take
> your shoes off.  Oh yeah, and you're not allowed to drive with your
> headlights on during the day.  Only the Royal Family's allowed to do
> that.

As a result of walking around barefoot so much over there my feet started
hurting.  I have very high arches and they started to fall from running
around barefoot.

Jill
badwilson - 18 Oct 2005 04:02 GMT
>>>>>>> name again!  It's something complicated too, not nice and normal
>>>>>>> like Porn or Noo, which is what every other woman in Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Betcha he does have a nickname among his family, but only in the
> privacy of the palace!  You know he was born in the U.S.

What, you don't think his wife and kids call him Your Royal
Highness??? ;-)

>>> It's pretty funny.  Custom says don't touch anyone on the head, very
>>> rude! But spitting on the sidewalk in Bangkok is perfectly
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Don't step on a coin, either... that's an affront to the King!

So I guess putting coins on railroad tracks to get squished is out,
hey?

>   And you constantly have to take
>> your shoes off.  Oh yeah, and you're not allowed to drive with your
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> started hurting.  I have very high arches and they started to fall
> from running around barefoot.

I always thought that going barefoot is supposed to be good for you.
I'm always barefoot in my house and outside of the house I wear flip
flops.  A good pedicure is a must over here!
--
Britta
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Jo Firey - 18 Oct 2005 05:42 GMT
"badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> As a result of walking around barefoot so much over there my feet
>> started hurting.  I have very high arches and they started to fall
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> flops.  A good pedicure is a must over here!
> --

I've gone barefoot most of the time for most of my life, close to sixty
years now.  And my arches are still very high.  I hate shoes.  My feet got
wider and longer when I put on weight, but it hasn't affected my arches.

Jo
CatNipped - 14 Oct 2005 14:04 GMT
> >I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually live
> >here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they did.  I
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Good God, people, what is wrong with your relatives?  Were they *all*
> raised by wolves or something????!!!!

My granddaughters are 6, 11, and 13 - and they each have at least 2 or 3
friends in tow from when they come home from school until bedtime.  Children
can't be harped on 24/7 or they'll turn off their hearing and then won't
listen to the big things they need to hear.  You have to pick your battles.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Theresa
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> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
>
> Make Levees, Not War
badwilson - 14 Oct 2005 05:38 GMT
> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
from
> when they did.  I still never know who I'll find sleeping in my
house
> when I wake up in the morning.
>
> Useless note to anyone out there that doesn't mop their own floors:
> Pouring a drink into a glass while standing in front of the
> refrigerator will result in dribbles on the floor.  Unless it is
> water they will first be a sticky spot, and then a dirty spot.  I
get
> surly when I have to clean up the spots more than once a day.  Also,
> a spilled drink that is sweet cannot be cleaned up with a dry paper
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Jo

Oh no.  I would have just scooped the fly out and drank the tequila.
--
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Christina Websell - 14 Oct 2005 17:56 GMT
>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
>> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Oh no.  I would have just scooped the fly out and drank the tequila.

LOL!  Me, too!

Tweed
Jo Firey - 14 Oct 2005 20:21 GMT
>>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
>>> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Tweed

Trust me, I thought about it!

Jo
jmcquown - 15 Oct 2005 19:00 GMT
>>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
>>> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Tweed

Me three!  (but I don't like tequila... still, it's a shame to waste good
liquor!)

Jill
kilikini - 15 Oct 2005 19:29 GMT
> >>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
> >>> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Jill

I, OTOH, would have fished out the fly and given the shot to my husband.
Tee hee hee!

kili
Christina Websell - 15 Oct 2005 20:40 GMT
>>>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't
>>>> actually live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference
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>
> Jill

I don't think I've ever drunk tequila, but I certainly wouldn't waste it!

Tweed
mlbriggs - 14 Oct 2005 06:28 GMT
> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
> live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they
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>>
>> CatNipped

I should think the tequila would have sterilized the fly!!!!!
FYI  I always cover a glass with anything in it if I leave the room
A cover from a can of potato chips, or margarine, etc make good covers..

a word to the wise-------- MLB
Wendy - 14 Oct 2005 11:28 GMT
>> I can supply plenty of sympathy at least.  My grandsons don't actually
>> live here anymore, but that is a very slight difference from when they
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>>
>> Jo

> I should think the tequila would have sterilized the fly!!!!!
> FYI  I always cover a glass with anything in it if I leave the room
> A cover from a can of potato chips, or margarine, etc make good covers..
>
> a word to the wise-------- MLB

I've got to cover everything here or Boots will get it. If there isn't
enough in a glass for him to stick his head in and drink, he'll dip his paw
in and get some that way. I'm really not drinking anything he's had his paw
in.

W
Adrian - 14 Oct 2005 14:26 GMT
> I should think the tequila would have sterilized the fly!!!!!
> FYI  I always cover a glass with anything in it if I leave the room
> A cover from a can of potato chips, or margarine, etc make good
> covers..
>
> a word to the wise-------- MLB

So you're saying that poor fly will never have babies? ;o)
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Pamela  Shirk - 14 Oct 2005 20:35 GMT
>> I should think the tequila would have sterilized the fly!!!!!
>> FYI  I always cover a glass with anything in it if I leave the room
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>
> So you're saying that poor fly will never have babies? ;o)

Not after meeting the tequila.  Especially if he drank the stuff.  That
stuff would sterilize most things smaller than a horse.  Think of that poor
pickled worm....

Pam S. who's never been a fan of tequila or most drinks
Jane - 14 Oct 2005 15:05 GMT
>> OK I'll quit whining now.

What are friends for, if not to whine to?   We're here for you.
It'll all be back to normal someday.

Jane
Kreisleriana - 14 Oct 2005 04:19 GMT
>Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
>CatNipped

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meee - 14 Oct 2005 06:28 GMT
Go ahead and whine...we're listening :) you've been more-than -human already
putting up with everyone!! Hope getting it out helps you feel better, none
of us can dob on you, so get it out and debrief a bit :)

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> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
> CatNipped
Yoj - 14 Oct 2005 08:39 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
> CatNipped

You have every right to whine!  I know you know you're doing the right
thing - the only thing you can do - by having them there, but your loss of
privacy and your normal life has to be painful.  Whine here whenever you
want.

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polonca12000@yahoo.com - 14 Oct 2005 09:30 GMT
Lots of gentle calming hugs and purrs and best wishes that the
situation improves really soon,
Polonca and Soncek

> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
> I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems are
> insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience with me.
>
> My life has been drastically changed.  <snip>
Exocat - 14 Oct 2005 11:19 GMT
> I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems
> are
> insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience with
> me.
>
> My life has been drastically changed.

Whinge all you want. We can take it.

After all, our homes haven't been turned into hotels :-)

(Mind you, since Claudius mine's become a zoo,
playground, climbing wall & racetrack rolled into one)!

Purrs
Gordon & the FF
Irulan - 14 Oct 2005 14:04 GMT
Whine all you like, you're entitled. I couldn't wait until my daughter moved
out of the house on her own. I love her dearly, but having your own space
just the way you want it is your right too.
That's what we're here for, to listen.
Lily & her mama
Jazz, RB

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> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
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>
> CatNipped
Magic Mood Jeep© - 14 Oct 2005 14:06 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
> I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems
> are insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience
> with me.

Geez - how many T-shirt do you have now?  :D

> My life has been drastically changed.  But it's not the big things
> that are getting to me.  It's not the fact that there is no longer
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> fingernail polish - and then used fingernail polish remover to try to
> wipe up the spills.

Been there - done that, and boy was Mom *pissed*.  Ended up having to
refinish the entire desktop - fortunately was able to find matching
stain/finish.  But until then, lemon oil works pretty good.

> It's that my house is filled with flies because the girls go in and
> out 20 times an hour - I went to take a drink from my glass of milk
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> gate, Jessie and Bandit are the only ones brave enough to beat up the
> dog and Bandit can't jump the gate).

We have those pressure gates, from the infant furniture section at Target -
they were about $10 each.  They're not that tall, but we only have a
terrier, not a golden and a rottie (which could probably jump over these),
and we put them up a bit higher so the cats can squeak *under* them if need
be - but for some reason, ol' lardbutt & the toothless one (our 2 oldest
cats) fail to realize this and still jump over them.

If you can scrounge up a bit of extra cash, you *could* try for one of these
types of gates:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=12521&Ntt=pet%20ga
te&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=2001&Nty=1

It's taller for larger dogs, is a pressure gate so no screw-holes left (but
it comes with screws for a more permanent attachment) after your company has
returned home, *and* has a 'cat door' in it so kitties can go through it as
well!

> I just miss my quiet life and my spotless, obsessively-compulsively
> clean house.  I love my daughter and my granddaughters, but it's just
> hard living in the same house with them.

I too miss the peace and quiet that was here - now I'm constantly checking
for the dog, to see if he's peed or pooped in the house (none lately), or if
he has any indication that he wants to go out.  And no more sleeping in for
me!  Up in the early AM for Max's daily walks (speaking of which, I need to
get dressed and take him for his)...  But we have made some headway - now
he's going into his crate of his own free will!!!!  He'll go in there and
nap in the afternoons, or after we get back from our walk, and stay there
for a couple of hours.  He's finally realized that's *his* place!

> OK I'll quit whining now.
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped

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Adrian - 14 Oct 2005 14:28 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.

Whine all you want, you're not hurting anybody and I hope it makes you feel
a little better.
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Shiral - 14 Oct 2005 17:12 GMT
Lori, as  a person who ALSO enjoys peace and quiet (if not exactly
tidiness), I can TOTALLY understand mourning for your quiet life when
you have a suddenly full household. Family visits are great, but it's a
different prospect when you know  your family is going to be living
with you for a good long time, yet. Yeah, they HAVE gone through an
awful experience, and they're facing a difficult future for a while.
(Hopefully, they'll be able to get back on their feet financially and
make a good start on their post-hurricane life.) You're a good mom and
a good grandma to open your home to them, and I'm sure they appreciate
it. But it's still hard to live with lots of people when you're not
used to it.  I say you're entitled to grumble a little. =o)

Melissa
Monique Y. Mudama - 14 Oct 2005 17:56 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
> I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems
> are insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience
> with me.

When I was seeing a therapist, I told her that I felt silly
complaining about depression when there were people with "real
problems," like malnourishment and poverty, in the world.

She set me straight on that one.

Your feelings are your feelings, and you have every right to them.
Your problems are not insignificant.  I would have gone insane in the
face of what you've been doing.  You've taken on a huge burden, and
while I know many of us would do almost anything for our families,
that doesn't mean it's easy or comes without a cost.

In short, cut yourself a break and give yourself permission to be
upset, to feel overwhelmed.  Don't feel like you "shouldn't" be or go
comparing your problems to prove to yourself how "insignificant" yours
are.

*hug* It'll get better.  One day, many years from now, you may even
look back on this time and miss the chaos and the opportunity to have
so much of your family so near to you.  But this is now, and of course
it's upsetting and stressful.

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CatNipped - 14 Oct 2005 18:55 GMT
> > Whinge to you in the UK.
> >
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> so much of your family so near to you.  But this is now, and of course
> it's upsetting and stressful.

I have to admit, I really am enjoying that part.  When we moved to Houston
Erin wasn't even married yet (she and Greg were just moving in to my house
in St. Bernard and planning their wedding).  So I have never lived close to
my granddaughters.  Ever since they were born, I got to see them only twice
a year for a week.  Living with them is really changing our relationship and
I'm getting much, much closer to them and they to me.  So aside from all the
aggravations, I really will treasure this time.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Pamela  Shirk - 14 Oct 2005 20:39 GMT
> Whinge to you in the UK.
>
> I know, in the face of this massive tragedy, that my little problems are
> insignificant, but I need to rant a bit - please have patience with me.
>
> My life has been drastically changed.

Well yeah, you have a right to whine.  We all do.  I'm still trying to come
up with a drawing of a disgruntled cat for that "I Whimpered on RPCA"
t-shirt.  If anyone has an outline drawing of an unhappy kitty, please email
it to me.  If you're interested in ordering said shirts, I'll let you know
when we get them set up.  At lest you got rid of MIL and SIL.  That's a
start.

Pam S.
Magic Mood Jeep© - 14 Oct 2005 21:13 GMT
Pamela Shirk wrote:
>> Whinge to you in the UK.
>>
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>
> Pam S.

I'll take a shirt (size men's medium).  Just let me know the cost and I can
paypal it to you.

I did a google search for 'disgruntled cat'

http://www.lauraruby.com/images/cat-disgruntled.gif

is the first one that caught my eye

but here's the rest of the list

http://images.google.com/images?q=disgruntled+cat&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
Wendy - 15 Oct 2005 02:28 GMT
>> Whinge to you in the UK.
>>
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>
> Pam S.

Have you looked on  Clipart.com? If you see something there you like let me
know and I'll dl it for you.

W
badwilson - 15 Oct 2005 04:15 GMT
Pamela Shirk wrote:
>> Whinge to you in the UK.
>>
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>
> Pam S.

Here's an idea.  Give one of your cats a bath and then take a picture
of it after.  Voila!  Unhappy cat pic ;-)
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Helen Miles - 14 Oct 2005 22:36 GMT
Jessie and Bandit are the only ones brave
> enough to beat up the dog and Bandit can't jump the gate).///

Do what I did with my baby gate to confine the dogs. Take a bar out. The
cats can get through easily, and don't have to jump it, and the dogs
still can't get through.

Helen M
Christina Websell - 16 Oct 2005 19:42 GMT
{...}
> It's that my house is filled with flies because the girls go in and out 20
> times an hour - I went to take a drink from my glass of milk just now and
> saw a fly swimming for his life.

Could you get a bead or chain curtain  to hang in the doorway?  It doesn't
stop all the flies getting in, but it cuts the number down a lot.  For the
ones that do get in an ultra violet fly catcher such as described on
http://www.robharvey.com/pest-control/insect-killers.htm will sort them out.
I know it's a UK site, but you must be able to get similar in the USA.
Money is tight, I realise but it might be well spent if it stops you
freaking out.

> It's that I have to have a baby gate on my
> bedroom door so the dog can't get to the cats' food and I have to step
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> though they can jump the gate, Jessie and Bandit are the only ones brave
> enough to beat up the dog and Bandit can't jump the gate).

I'm afraid I can't see a way around that one.  Dogs will always polish up
any spare food, it's just how they are.

> I just miss my quiet life and my spotless, obsessively-compulsively clean
> house.  I love my daughter and my granddaughters, but it's just hard
> living
> in the same house with them.

I think you are doing remarkably well.  I am not a person who feels the need
to have a spotless house, but I know that for those who do it can cause real
distress to see it messed up.
I know how I felt when my brother came with his kids and they climbed all
over my upholstered furniture with muddy shoes..

> OK I'll quit whining now.

No need, whine/whinge all you like as far as I'm concerned.  I think you're
a saint!

Tweed
 
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