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jmcquown - 08 Oct 2005 18:48 GMT
I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't know,
it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television to have their
disputes resolved.)

This woman was going to be gone on a job assignment for 5 months and needed
someone to live in and care for her dog.  She got a referral from a friend
for a pet-sitter.  The pet-sitter worked at the same hospital she did so she
figured with the recommendation of the friend and the screening process the
hospital made *her* go through, the young woman would fit the bill.  The
agreement was, the sitter would live rent free for 5 months as long as she
took care of the dog and the house.  *No other people* were supposed to stay
there.

All was well at first.  The woman came home a couple of times on weekends
and the place was fine and the dog was happy.  BUT... then the landlord
contacted her.  Said the sitter suddenly had some guy staying there with her
and he wanted the guy OUT.  She communicated this to the sitter.

It came out in the course of the "trial" the sitter had been leaving the dog
out in the back yard all night if she had to work a night shift because the
dog wouldn't be able to relieve itself, blah blah blah.  The plaintiff said
that's silly, the dog is crate-trained, has a big crate and she often left
the dog inside when she worked a 10 hour shift if the weather was bad, etc.
And she *never* left the dog outside all night.

The sitter claimed the landlord called her and said he didn't want *anyone*
staying there.  (That's just stupid; why would he want his property sitting
empty, unprotected, when he knew his tenant was away on a long-term
assignment?)  He just wanted the boyfriend OUT.  Then the sitter admitted
sometimes she spent the night at her boyfriends apartment after getting off
work, ostensibly leaving the dog outside for 24 hours or more.

Anyway, the sitter left.  She rented an apartment but maintained she was
going by there to check on the dog every day and that the dog had plenty of
food, water, a dog house, no problems.

The plaintiff came home to find the dog missing and the house a wreck
(dishes piled in the sink and scummy water and mold in them).  She and her
son were more concerned with the dog, of course.  They called the shelter
and were told yes, there was a Corgie that matched the description of their
dog.  She and her son went to the shelter to retrieve the dog only to find
out it had just been euthanized.  Her son burst into tears.

The sitter claimed she didn't know how the dog got out.  She also said she
didn't leave all the dishes and stuff in the sink until after she came to
check on the dog and found him missing.  Judge Judy ripped her a new one.
Paraphrasing, "No madam, you are not going to tell me you came home, found
the dog missing, didn't bother to try to find the dog, then sat down and
cooked and left dishes in the sink then just left again."

Judge Judy awarded the plaintiff the amount of money the sitter had paid in
rent, since had she upheld her end of the agreement she could have been
living rent-free.  She also awarded her $2000 because, even though there is
no way to put a price on the love of a pet she felt that was fair.

I'm posting this because so many people use pet sitters.  I know Persia
hates being boarded but I feel safe having her at her vet where they know
her (and me) rather than inviting a stranger into my home.  If you do hire a
pet sitter, I'm sure there must be agencies who license and bond such
people, not that I'd feel better about it.  It seems that would be the route
to go unless you trust the person with your life.  I would never take a
recommendation from even a friend and trust them to take care of my pets.
(Years ago I couldn't even trust my oldest brother to come over and walk and
feed my dog when I was away on weekends; I'd come home Sunday afternoon and
find the Sampson with his legs crossed and no food.)  Just my 2 cents.

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep© - 08 Oct 2005 19:02 GMT
> I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't
> know, it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television
[quoted text clipped - 70 lines]
>
> Jill

This reminds me of a story I saw on a news website.  They used a web cam to
check on their petsitter, and found that when she was supposed to be coming
2x a day (leaving notes to that effect - what time whe was there and how
long she stayed & interacted with the dogs), but was only showing up *1*
time a day.  Here's the story:

http://www.theindychannel.com/family/5030541/detail.html
jmcquown - 08 Oct 2005 21:12 GMT
>> This woman was going to be gone on a job assignment for 5 months and
>> needed someone to live in and care for her dog.  She got a referral
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> http://www.theindychannel.com/family/5030541/detail.html

It's a shame you can't trust people (even family) to do what they say they
will do.  No way is a stranger getting a key to my house or care of my pets.
Period.

Jill
Jane - 11 Oct 2005 19:37 GMT
>It's a shame you can't trust people (even family) to do what they say they
>will do.  No way is a stranger getting a key to my house or care of my pets.
>Period.

Wow, and I am PROUD to be one of the trusted family members. When my
sister and her family went away for a month, they brought the guinea
pig and cat over to my place, knowing that I would care for them as
if they were my own.

Same with my friend.  While she was in between houses, I had both of
her cats. They were spoiled rotten for 6 weeks, and haven't let her
forget it.  lol

Jane
- owned and operated by Princess Rita
mail@petsits.com - 15 Oct 2005 06:59 GMT
I think it makes a big difference when you send a pet to a relative's
home.  It's when you set up a family member to come to your own home to
check on your pets that issues arise for some reason.

Kelley
www.petsits.com
mail@petsits.com - 15 Oct 2005 06:56 GMT
I've actually found you can trust family even LESS than you can trust
professional pet sitters.

I heard the Judge Judy trial also and was appalled.  I'm a professional
pet sitter, and the fact that this woman even called herself a pet
sitter was just not right.  She was nothing more than an aquantance
taking care of someone's pets for free rent.  That's not how real pet
sitting works.

It's been my experience (through many accounts from my clients) that
family members and aquantances you hire to care for your pets are
completely unreliable.  Even the best most responsible, loving family
members.  I won't go into detail here, but you can read what I've
learned time and time again on my website faq:
http://www.happyathome.net/faqnewclient.htm

A professional pet sitter is someone who has a business caring for your
pets.  If they provide less than 100% great service, they get a fast
bad rep and loose clients.   Yes there are many bad sitters out there,
but there are many more VERY good ones.

There are some key factors you can use to see if someone is really a
professional pet sitter:
1.  They spend money to be apart of major organizations.  They do this
because they take their profession very seriously.  NAPPS and PSI are
the big ones.  PetSits.Com and a few others are also good.
2.  They don't live in your home for 5 months.  That's just ridiculus.
Most professionals would be very leary about even serving a client who
was living away from home for that long.  Since pet sitting is usually
done by daily visits (and not live in situations), it just would be
difficult to make sure the pet is really getting enough love and care
for that period of time, even with 3-4 visits per day.
3.  They are insured for PET SITTING.    And can show you the proof of
insurance.   Mainly pet sitters are insured by PSA or Business Insurers
of the Carolinas.
4.  They have you fill out tons of paperwork before they start.
Including asking for every detail of pet care from where the food is to
where to find the "muddy paw" towels.
5.  They offer references.
6.  They have experience.  Most pet sitters go out of business within 8
months, so the ones that have been around a few years know what they
are doing.
7.  They don't make deals.  They don't discount.  They don't trade
services.  Their rates may seem a little high to you, but if you
calculate out all their expenses it's just enough to keep their
business going.
8.  They don't just do pet sitting as a hobby.  Some hobbists are good
also, but a full time pet sitter is likely to have more experience.

Basically professionals act professional.  When it's your livelyhood,
you usually do your best to make the best of it!

Kelley
www.petsits.com
cathyxyz - 08 Oct 2005 19:32 GMT
> I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't know,
> it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television to have their
> disputes resolved.).... <snip>

We see Judge Judy shows here too... and some of the things that come up
are really quite "funny" (not always funny ha ha, either)... Haven't
seen this particular show, however.

I agree with you, Jill. I wouldn't trust my own family to look after my
pets for such a long period of time.... And I certainly wouldn't have
some "stranger" in my house either.

Cheers
Cathy(xyz)
Jo Firey - 08 Oct 2005 21:31 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> I'm posting this because so many people use pet sitters.  I know Persia
> hates being boarded but I feel safe having her at her vet where they know
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Jill

I figure this is part of the deal when I get a pet.  I become completely
responsible for its welfare as much as is humanly possible.

Of course I'm so paranoid I'd never let someone stay in my house for five
months in the first place.

Until I found the recent cat hotel that Fat Freddy recommended I always
boarded mine with a vet.  And felt bad leaving them caged so never went
anywhere for very long.

This cat place is so great, my two would be happy to live there.

Charlie wants to get a dog.  I'm dragging my feet mostly cause it would be
that much more difficult and expensive to go anywhere we couldn't take it.

Jo
Helen Miles - 08 Oct 2005 23:42 GMT
> This woman was going to be gone on a job assignment for 5 months and needed
> someone to live in and care for her dog.  She got a referral from a friend
> for a pet-sitter.///

5 months is a very long time to leave your pet in the care of a pet
sitter. *Anything* could happen in that time.

<snipped rest of ssad story>  

> I'm posting this because so many people use pet sitters.  I know Persia
> hates being boarded but I feel safe having her at her vet where they know
> her (and me) rather than inviting a stranger into my home.  If you do hire a
> pet sitter, I'm sure there must be agencies who license and bond such
> people, not that I'd feel better about it.////

I'm lucky, my next door neighbour comes in and feeds the mogs twice a
day when I'm away, and I can trust her 100% but TBH, my gran also comes
in every other day to check that everyone and everything is OK too.

I have a dog walker, Ian, who is bonded, insured, recommended and police
checked, and I interviewed him for 2 hours! ;o) We're still getting used
to each other, but I was lucky with him. BUT...my neighbour who feeds
the cats keeps an eye on him and always comes out to say hello to him!

Pet sitters can be iffy, if you have a good one, you're lucky, but I
have heard a *LOT* of bad stories.

Helen M
Adrian - 09 Oct 2005 12:00 GMT
>> This woman was going to be gone on a job assignment for 5 months and
>> needed someone to live in and care for her dog.  She got a referral
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Helen M

Talking of looking after neighbours cats. About 10 years ago, four of my
neighbours were away at the same time and I was looking after all thier
cats. I had so many bunches of keys I felt like a prison warden.
Signature

Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
A House is not a home, without a cat.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

jmcquown - 09 Oct 2005 12:34 GMT
>>> This woman was going to be gone on a job assignment for 5 months and
>>> needed someone to live in and care for her dog.  She got a referral
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> my neighbours were away at the same time and I was looking after all
> thier cats. I had so many bunches of keys I felt like a prison warden.

LOL!  I'm sorry, that struck me as funny.  When I was a kid I used to
collect "skeleton keys" - old fashioned keys that fit who knows what locks,
on a big ring and they all jingled together.  Huh, I have no idea what
happened to that key ring or the keys.  They were old keys... I had quite a
collection, too.

Jill
Fuga :o) - 09 Oct 2005 00:09 GMT
To be honest the person that was hired to take care of the dog was not a
professional pet sitter and can't even be considered to a pet sitter in my
opinion.  It's unfair assume that other people who professionally pet-sit
conduct themselves any way near that.

Frankly,  I have been pet sitting for over two years and the clients who
have hired me used to have friends and relatives care for their animals have
found that their pets were better cared for by me.  The people who I know
that pet sit  have checklist and very clear guidelines that they follow when
caring for someone's pet.  I know when I meet with a new client I spend on
average an hour to two hours getting to know the requirements of the job.

A professional sitter has pet-sitting insurance and is likely a memeber of
PetSitters International or NAPPs.

There are lots of good sitters out there.
jmcquown - 09 Oct 2005 00:35 GMT
> To be honest the person that was hired to take care of the dog was
> not a professional pet sitter and can't even be considered to a pet
> sitter in my opinion.  It's unfair assume that other people who
> professionally pet-sit conduct themselves any way near that.

I'm sure she didn't represent herself as a professional pet-sitter.  But the
woman got a recommendation from a friend who used her, probably for a
weekend or maybe a week, and she knew the woman worked at the hospital where
she worked and knew the screening process employees go through.  So she
thought it would be okay.  Then she found herself a boyfriend and decided
that was more important.  She was young.  She looked like she could be
ordered around, which was sort of sad.

> Frankly,  I have been pet sitting for over two years and the clients
> who have hired me used to have friends and relatives care for their
> animals have found that their pets were better cared for by me.

I'm sure that is also true.  However, I still won't give a key to my house
to someone I don't know.  I had a situation a few years ago where a
maintenance guy (whom apartment management trusted completely) started
leaving me notes and "gifts" of windchimes and such.  Totally freaked me out
and I demanded the locks be changed and he not be given a key.  He didn't
work there much longer.  He'd been "hitting" on all the women he *thought*
were single in the complex.  You just never know and I won't take the
chance, especially not with my pets.  Fuga; no reflection on you as a
pet-sitter.  I'll continue to use my vet to board my pets.

Jill
PatM - 09 Oct 2005 06:16 GMT
That is an awful thing to have happen!!  Like Fuga I also had a
professional pet sitting business for several years until my arthritis
limited my activities too much.  Some of my old clients are still
friends.  I would meet potential clients in their homes and spend time
talking about feeding routines, hiding places, favorite toys, meds to
be given, personalities, walking routes...oh my gosh, so much.  Every
situation was unique.  Not only cats and dogs...snakes, lizards, birds,
ferrets, hedgies, goats, horses, fish, etc.  Besides being liscened and
bonded I had written references and past clients they could call.
Although I started out with a Yellow Pages ad, word of mouth was
everything I found.  I came away from it with regret, I really missed
my furry clients!  And I'll bet Fuga's got as many adventure stories to
tell as I do. :)

Oh, and one of the biggest reasons I started in the first place was
because I was so unhappy finding someone to watch my own critters.  I
wouldn't trust anyone in my family, not my neighbors, or most of my
friends to treat my babies as I wanted.

Cheers,
PatM
Helen Miles - 11 Oct 2005 10:58 GMT
"Fuga :o\)" <catsitter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:94Sdne3KhO1fzNXeRVn-hg@rogers.com

> There are lots of good sitters out there.///

I concur with that - I've had some *superb* ones, and I've also had one
or two "duff" ones.

The good *have* out weighed the bad.

Helen M
jmcquown - 10 Oct 2005 00:11 GMT
> I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't
> know, it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jill

I remember back in the 1980's when I rented a house I kept hearing this dog
in the yard behind mine whining and crying.  There was a wood fence so I
couldn't see the dog.  After a day I walked around the block and knocked on
the door.  No answer.  I knocked on the neighbors doors.  Oh, they went out
of town.  Yes, they heard the dog crying.  No, they hadn't called anyone
about it and didn't know how to reach the people who lived there.

I went home and called the Humane Society.  They went over and found this
poor dog (a labrador, IIRC) chained in the back by a dog house with an empty
food dish and a tipped over water-dish.  They took the dog and came to thank
me for reporting this.  It seemed the owners had gone off for a week and
thought the dog would be fine with a big bowl of food and water, with no one
to care for it.  I don't know if they got their dog back; I'm pretty sure
the dog was not euthanized as he was otherwise a healthy, friendly dog.  He
just had idiots for owners.  I'd have taken him if I could.

Jill
Enfilade - 10 Oct 2005 03:04 GMT
> > I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't
> > know, it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > live rent free for 5 months as long as she took care of the dog and
> > the house.  *No other people* were supposed to stay there.

What a sad story.

When we go away for a few days, we get some of DPs fellow med student
friends to care for our cats, but if we're gone a week or more, we
board.

When we lived in Ontario, my dad would take Nocturne and Smokey if we
were going away for long periods of time (he had them for three weeks
once) and that was really great because they got the run of his house
and his company, as a farmer, I know he can care for animals very well.

--Fil
meee - 11 Oct 2005 00:58 GMT
> > > I saw this episode on Judge Judy yesterday.  (For you folks who don't
> > > know, it's a show where people go in front of a judge on television
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> --Fil

We are really really lucky to have good neighbours. They have dogs too, so
if they go away we feed their dogs and take in their mail, water gardens etc
and if we go away they do the same for us!! They are very reliable and so
are we...much better than hiring an anonymous dog-sitter.
-L. - 11 Oct 2005 17:15 GMT
<snip>

> I'm posting this because so many people use pet sitters.  I know Persia
> hates being boarded but I feel safe having her at her vet where they know
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jill

It's great you have a vet where Persia gets enough attention while
beaing boarded.  Most vets who board do not have the time nor staff to
give boarders much care above and beyond food, water and cleanliness,
though.  If you must board a cat, choose a professional boarding
facility with a good repuation - one that is either affiliated with a
vet or recommended by a vet.  I know one in the South Bay (SF) area
that is outstanding, if anyone there needs a recommendation.  My
recommendation has always been to have a sitter come to your home,
though, for so many reasons, the most important being that home turf
will always be more comfortable and less stressful for your pet.

I have used pet sitters for 15+ years, and never had a negative
incident.  There's only been one occasion where things weren't done
exactly as I had requested (minor issues), and that was because the
sitter was a temp fill-in for my regular sitter.  These have always
been people I have found through word-of-mouth.  My current sitter is
an absolute gem, and she is not registered as a "professional" pet
sitter - but is licensed and insured.  She was a stranger when I first
met her.  She has proven to be not only an outstanding pet sitter, but
a friend as well.  She helped me through the lost of my dog last March,
gave us a gift when our son came home, and goes above and beyond the
call of duty in caring for our home and our pets.  I would absolutely
recommend her to anyone.

You just have to be careful when choosing care for your pets regardless
of the type of care you choose.  Some vets are simply too busy to give
much attention; some don't have the volume of business, so the staff
has more time on their hands for animal interaction.  Some sitters are
flaky or untrustworthy; some care for and about your pets as much as
you do.  You simply have to be educated in your choice.  

-L.
 
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