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Karen - 07 Oct 2005 04:20 GMT
Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
hard to hide the taste so she doesn't take it as well, but last night
and today she isn't feeling well and is coughing and dry heaving a bit,
which was what sent us in in the first place. So, I gave her a second
half dose tonight and will call the vet in the morning to see what
dosage I should try. I just hope she gets to feeling better. I just
wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.
Kreisleriana - 07 Oct 2005 04:31 GMT
>Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
>because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
>don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

Poor pretty girl!  Hope it turns out all right.

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Marina - 07 Oct 2005 04:32 GMT
> Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's hard
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I don't
> know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

I know what you mean. Many purrs for Pearl to get better soon. And stay
better. And Sugar to stay better.

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Irulan - 07 Oct 2005 16:13 GMT
poor babies and Karen. We will purr and pray that all of you start feeling
better soon.
Lily & her mama
Jazz, RB

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> Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's hard
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I don't know how people
> who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 07 Oct 2005 21:46 GMT
>Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
>because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
>don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

{{{{Karen}}}}

It's not easy, believe me.  And I know there are some who freak at the
very word "Prednisone".  But it can be a lifesaver, too.  You have to
balance everything out, I guess.  Sabra was on it for years, and he
*neeed* it for his severe asthma.  There really was no other choice.
And he lived to be almost 16. Internet's been on Prednisolone for
several years, and he is 16-1/2.  The one I worry about is Arthur,
because he is so young.  I hate to put him on it, but the Depo didn't
work :-(  I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
steroid.  It's a battle, I know.

Purrs for both your babies to feel better.

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Karen - 07 Oct 2005 22:07 GMT
I  seriously believe that Pearl has asthma on top of the heart stuff. I gave
her a second half dose last night and today she is perkier. I guess I will
go to 1/2 per day and then back to 1/2 every other day after a week.

> >Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> >because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
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Adrian - 08 Oct 2005 10:40 GMT
> I  seriously believe that Pearl has asthma on top of the heart stuff.
> I gave her a second half dose last night and today she is perkier. I
> guess I will go to 1/2 per day and then back to 1/2 every other day
> after a week.

Continuing purrs for Pearl to stop coughing and feel better asap.
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Sam Nash - 09 Oct 2005 02:44 GMT
>I  seriously believe that Pearl has asthma on top of the heart stuff. I
>gave
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Purrs continuing for Pearl.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Wayne Mitchell - 08 Oct 2005 05:14 GMT
>I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
>steroid.

It's Flovent (fluticasone) which is the commonly used inhaled
steroid.  Because it is absorbed directly into the lung tissue
and very little of it gets into the bloodstream, it doesn't have
bad effects on the other organs the way injected or oral
steroids do.

We use the Flovent to treat the underlying inflammation.  The
Albuterol is a bronchodilator, and non-steroidal.  It can give
quick relief of symptoms and can be a life saver, but it isn't
therapeutic long-term.

If you do decide to do inhaled meds for any of your asthmatics,
feel free to pick my brains.  I've been doing it with Will since
May.

(In fact that's how I ended up in this group.  I was looking for
info on IMs and went to RPCH-B to ask about them.  While there,
I ended one of my on-topic posts with a cute story about Flicka
and Zubie and they kicked me over here. <grin>)

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meee - 08 Oct 2005 07:07 GMT
> >I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
> >steroid.
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> I ended one of my on-topic posts with a cute story about Flicka
> and Zubie and they kicked me over here. <grin>)

lol recpets cats h & B !!! I post there too and get told off for asking
doggy questions! (waits for cries of horror and disgust)
Christina Websell - 12 Oct 2005 17:15 GMT
>> >I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
>> >steroid.
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> lol recpets cats h & B !!! I post there too and get told off for asking
> doggy questions! (waits for cries of horror and disgust)

Ah, but that group isn't like this one!  People here don't seem to mind
sharing their knowledge in their various areas of expertise, and I really
like that.  It's like having a big international family to call on and it's
great.
So feel free to ask me for advice about dogs, ferrets, chickens, geese and
goats if it would be useful to you.  Not cats, though, I don't know much
about cats :-P -  but I'm learning.
*light bulb just clicked on*
Those of you who have expertise in various fields and would be willing to
help rpca members could maybe post what they'd be happy to help with.
Wouldn't that be luvverly..<song>  a community of cat lovers prepared to
help each other out with their knowledge in other areas.  Good idea?

Tweed
meee - 13 Oct 2005 00:14 GMT
> >> >I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
> >> >steroid.
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>
> Tweed

Sounds like a wonderful idea to me! I'll chuck in a new post and see what
comes up...
badwilson - 13 Oct 2005 02:51 GMT
>>>> I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
>>>> steroid.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Ah, but that group isn't like this one!  People here don't seem to
> mind sharing their knowledge in their various areas of expertise,
and
> I really like that.  It's like having a big international family to
> call on and it's great.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Those of you who have expertise in various fields and would be
> willing to help rpca members could maybe post what they'd be happy
to
> help with. Wouldn't that be luvverly..<song>  a community of cat
> lovers prepared to help each other out with their knowledge in other
> areas.  Good idea?
>
> Tweed

I think it's happening already.  People often post their OT question
and it inevitably gets answered here.  It's great :-)
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Marina - 13 Oct 2005 04:11 GMT
> I think it's happening already.  People often post their OT question
> and it inevitably gets answered here.  It's great :-)

Yes. I've asked a lot of 'computer blonde' questions here and always got
lots of help.

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Sam Nash - 13 Oct 2005 03:53 GMT
<snipped>
> Ah, but that group isn't like this one!  People here don't seem to mind
> sharing their knowledge in their various areas of expertise, and I really
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>
> Tweed

If anybody has any networking questions, I'll be glad to give it a shot.
Oh, not what you meant?
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
meee - 13 Oct 2005 04:26 GMT
> <snipped>
> > Ah, but that group isn't like this one!  People here don't seem to mind
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Oh, not what you meant?
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

well, Im sure someone will find that useful...:)
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 08 Oct 2005 20:31 GMT
>>I may just try Albuterol with him, although that is also a
>>steroid.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>I ended one of my on-topic posts with a cute story about Flicka
>and Zubie and they kicked me over here. <grin>)

Brain glitch.  Yep, Flovent is the preventative, Albuterol the rescue
inhaler.

Hard to think with a horrible toothache!

Thanks for the correction, and welcome to rpca!

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polonca12000 - 09 Oct 2005 20:17 GMT
So sorry to hear about the toothache!
Lots of purrs,
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<snip>> Hard to think with a horrible toothache!

> Thanks for the correction, and welcome to rpca!
>
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james@loowit.net - 09 Oct 2005 00:31 GMT
*perk*

Prednisolone/Prednisone is the old standby for feline asthma and is
tolerated much better by cats than by humans, so it's not a bad
solution for the occasional or seasonal asthmatic and where inhaled
corticosteroids are hard to come by (Prednisone is much cheaper and
likely available in far corners of the world). It's also helpful if
there are numerous inflammation problems in addition to the lungs and
bronchioles. It can have a number of side effects and be
contraindicated in diabetics.

The inhaled steroids (esp. fluticasone/Flovent) with MDI, cat-specific
spacer & mask, are ideal for treatment of asthma in cats because of the
tiny particle size (which gets into the smallest chambers of the
lungs), consistent dosage, low risk to caregiver, short treatment time,
and because it has no significant side effects in other tissues (it can
be used for diabetics, etc.). It does cost more dose-per-dose.

Heart disease by itself can cause coughing that initially resembles
asthma, and so can heartworm and a variety of other diseases. I am not
a vet but I would suspect if the coughing is purely heart-disease
related then inhaled steroids may not help as much as a systemic
steroid like Prednisone.

James Perkins - james@loowit.net
http://www.fritzthebrave.com - comprehensive feline asthma since 2001
Karen - 09 Oct 2005 02:07 GMT
> *perk*
>
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> James Perkins - james@loowit.net
> http://www.fritzthebrave.com - comprehensive feline asthma since 2001

That's why I don't think it is heart related, because she was doing
this long before that developed.
polonca12000 - 07 Oct 2005 21:46 GMT
Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for Pearl to stop coughing,
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> Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
> don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.
CATherine - 08 Oct 2005 01:58 GMT
>Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
>because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
>don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

{{{{{{{KAREN}}}}}}}}  Purrs and prayers for you and your dear cats.

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CATherine
Howard C. Berkowitz - 08 Oct 2005 08:16 GMT
> Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
> don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

I assume the cardiologists are concerned about fluid retention?  Ask if
they can switch her to a corticosteroid with less mineralocorticoid
(salt and fluid retention) activity, such as dexamethasone or
beclamethasone.

Purrs.
Jeanne Hedge - 08 Oct 2005 15:46 GMT
{{{{{Pearl & Karen}}}}}

You guys *will* get this figured out!

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Shiral - 09 Oct 2005 06:13 GMT
Poor Pearl... sounds miserable.  I hope she and you are both feeling
better soon. I've got my three on Purr Patrol.

Melissa
Krista - 10 Oct 2005 05:53 GMT
> Now Pearl is coughing again. I had really backed off on the prednisone
> because the heart group people really have a fit about it, AND it's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> wish my cats would BOTH feel good at the SAME time for a LONG time. I
> don't know how people who are caregivers of serious illness handle it.

Poor little darling.  We are purring for both of your girls to be
healthy and happy, and for you to get a break already!

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Krista
 
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