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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2005Can cats not eat pork?
Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. However, I also notice a conspicuous absence of one very popular and common human staple from cat foods: pork. Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. In large part because pet food is an easy way to use the less-desirable bits. > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Mine love it, particularly to gnaw on the bones and it hasn't hurt them any way I can see. -- "In 2005, the refining margin...has exceeded $20 per barrel, far above the long-term average of $6. That has meant record profits for oil companies and refiners" NYT 2005/09/11 : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? : : Mine love it, particularly to gnaw on the bones and it hasn't hurt : them any way I can see. Hmmm I wonder why there is no pork in commercially sold cans? > : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > : > : Mine love it, particularly to gnaw on the bones and it hasn't hurt > : them any way I can see. > > Hmmm I wonder why there is no pork in commercially sold cans? Maybe because they use all the less desireable bits in canned meat products for humans, instead? >> : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? >> : [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Maybe because they use all the less desireable bits in > canned meat products for humans, instead? If it were just a matter of cost, you'd think pork would show up in some of the expensive "gourmet" foods, like Sheba. But I don't recall seeing pork in those brands either. >>> : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? >>> : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > of the expensive "gourmet" foods, like Sheba. But I don't recall seeing > pork in those brands either. This is just a thought. I have read numerous times that "you can eat everything from a pig except it's grunt." Maybe then, all the pig is used in human food in one way or another. I *have* seen dog food with pork in it, though not often. Tesco did a tin with pork and veggies IIRC. Hmm. Very interesting. Tweed >>>> : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? >>>> : [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tweed I always remember being told growing up that you never give a dog or cat pork. Almost like an old time superstition. Maybe it was part of the folklore so pets wouldn't get fed raw or undercooked pork scraps that might be infected with trichinosis. I was also told you never give them pork bones because they splinter and can pierce their intestines. Jo >>>>>: > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? >>>>>: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > be infected with trichinosis. I was also told you never give them pork > bones because they splinter and can pierce their intestines. I thought that was chicken bones (cooked chicken bones - the raw ones are no problem). Anyway, that would pertain more to dogs, wouldn't it? I've never seen a cat gnaw a bone enough to produce splinters. Dogs, on the other hand..... > Jo > > : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > > : [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Maybe because they use all the less desireable bits in > canned meat products for humans, instead? Like Spam? ;-) Joy We have a supermarket chain in my area whose store-brand cat food has a ham variety. However, only Roxie will really go for it; the rest of our cats prefer the real thing. Blessed be, Baha > : > Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > : > : Mine love it, particularly to gnaw on the bones and it hasn't hurt > : them any way I can see. > > Hmmm I wonder why there is no pork in commercially sold cans? > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? A pig is a filthy animal Sure bacon tastes good, and yeah sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie but a SWINE is still a filthy animal I mean, what other animal rolls in it's own feces.. Just my thought on it > > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Just my thought on it No yours, Jules'. -L. : A pig is a filthy animal My point was, pork is sold for human consumption. Why is it absent from canned cat food? > : A pig is a filthy animal > > My point was, pork is sold for human consumption. Why is it absent from > canned cat food? Your point has been duly noted and has been taken into consideration; uuuhiiiii think you're up to something.. JUST say it. You fed your cat a pork chop now that cat is sleepy as hell and you're scared : JUST say it. : : You fed your cat a pork chop now that cat is sleepy as hell and you're : scared Would be funny but no, nothing exciting like that! I just notices that commercial cat food cans mention beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, fish, shrimp, mackerel, trout, crab, lobster, duck, ..., wheat, corn, rice, tomato, ... only not pork! There must be a reason. > : JUST say it. > : [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > There must be a reason. I have never noticed this before. I wonder if it is because of the trichiwhois worm that lives in raw pork, the one that can cause such problems if the meat is not cooked at high enough temperatures? > : JUST say it. > : [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > There must be a reason. Perhaps it's simply that scraps go into making cat/dog food, and all pork scraps go instead, into sausage and the like... ~C Do we know that pork really is absent from cat food? I mean maybe, just maybe the companies put pork in as filler (as was said pigs are filthy animals), but don't say anything? Except the one that's PORK on the label. Just a thought.  Signature"Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and now, die, I think the Republicans have done a fine job of getting government out of our personal lives." > >> : A pig is a filthy animal [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You fed your cat a pork chop now that cat is sleepy as hell and you're > scared > Do we know that pork really is absent from cat food? I mean maybe, just > maybe the companies put pork in as filler (as was said pigs are filthy > animals) As was INCORRECTLY said! Pigs are no "filthier" than any other animals (including humans). Because they were often kept in appalling conditions and, being omnivores, were frequently fed on garbage (until FDA regulations came along to forbid it) they've gotten a bad rap, but did anyone ever ask the pigs? They may enjoy a good wallow in mud, but they apparently enjoy a good hosing down with clean water, too. >Do we know that pork really is absent from cat food? I mean maybe, just >maybe the companies put pork in as filler (as was said pigs are filthy >animals), but don't say anything? Except the one that's PORK on the label. >Just a thought. Pigs are not Filthy animals given a chance a pig is much cleaner then a dog however a pig outdoors will roll in mud to protect itself from sunburn Don't know what the UV protection level of mud is Darryl > > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Just my thought on it Evidently you never worked on a farm. The pig is the cleanest animal there. Ramboyd ====== "My Ottawa Includes Corruption" > A pig is a filthy animal However, genetically it's much closer to human than are bovines! (Think about it.) Why do you think they use porcine heart valves for human transplants? > I mean, what other animal rolls in it's own feces.. Quite a few of them, actually! Also, from the reports I've heard, most pigs would much prefer to be kept clean. what a strange thing to say. pigs roll in mud, not excrement. this is a behavioural routine to keep cool. they don't choose to roll in their own excrement. on the contrary, they are careful to relieve themselves away from their sleeping area. most dogs like nothing better than a good roll in horse manure. does that make them filthy animals as well? all of which has no bearing on why the OP can't find pork in cats' food. > A pig is a filthy animal > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Just my thought on it > what a strange thing to say. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > most dogs like nothing better than a good roll in horse manure. does > that make them filthy animals as well? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they're definitely dirty. But a dog's got personality. And personality goes a long way. -L. (My apologies to Quentin Tarantino) What type of personality does a dog have that is different than a pig they say that pigs are smarter than dogs and cleaner and more loyal pigs roll in the mud to stay cool you must have never been to a farm or known someone raised on a farm >>what a strange thing to say. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > personality. And personality goes > a long way. How many pigs (of the four-footed variety) do you number among your acquaintance? ALL animals are individuals, and if you live closely with them you become fond of them. People who keep pigs (like those who keep beef-cattle and chickens for slaughter) make an effort NOT to get personally involved with them. I eat meat, but I doubt if I would long continue to do so if I were personally acquainted with the source. (It's different when it's all neatly packaged up in the supermarket - and even then, I have to make an effort not to think about it as part of a once living, breathing creature.) > -L. > (My apologies to Quentin Tarantino) > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why is that? Pork biproducts by and large go into hot dogs and bologna. They are too expensive for cat food. Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? They can and will eat pork. My cats love pork. -L. On 29 Sep 2005 12:35:05 -0700, wrote: >> Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would >> eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >-L. So you let them nibble on your toes? - GIT-R-DONE! alt.usenet.legends.lamey > Pork biproducts by and large go into hot dogs and bologna. They are > too expensive for cat food. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -L. I did read somewhere that pork isn't good for cats. It was on one of those websites about homemade cat food--I know anybody can say anything they want to on a website, so I don't know if it's true or not. I wish I could remember the reason specified. Boots loves a chunk of cooked bacon anytime she can get it. And being the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything she'll eat. Sherry : Boots loves a chunk of cooked bacon anytime she can get it. And being : the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything : she'll eat. Hi Sherry, I am sure occasional bits don't matter but isn't there too much other non-meat junk in bacon? Salt for one thing, and many other chemicals. > : Boots loves a chunk of cooked bacon anytime she can get it. And being > : the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > much other non-meat junk in bacon? Salt for one thing, and many other > chemicals. Cats can eat pork. Some like it and some don't. But pork just does not mean bacon. Their digestive systems are equipped to handle scrap meat (mice, birds, lizards, etc.); so why not pork? I would not recommend a steady diet of it because food intended for humans does not have the required amount of taurine in it that cats mush have for healthy cardio. That goes for tuna (and any meat) that is intended for human consumption also. But if your cat likes a bit of bacon or niblets off the pork chops, it's okay. Just make sure it's just a treat and not a regular staple. --The Observer : Cats can eat pork... I still don't understand why it is so rare in commercial cans, but as Mishi's post show it has been spotted! > : Cats can eat pork... > > I still don't understand why it is so rare in commercial cans, but as > Mishi's post show it has been spotted! It's present as "meat by-products". It's just too valuable in the secondary market (hot dogs, etc.) to be sent to the animal food market. -L. You know we need our pickled pigs feet I think I am going to be sick > You know we need our pickled pigs feet > I think I am going to be sick LOL...I have never understood some tastes. -L. I got something worse scrabble it is made of cow's various organs guess which ones > I got something worse scrabble it is made of cow's various organs guess > which ones Really? The only scrapple (correct spelling - "scrabble" is a word-game) I've ever encountered was made with pork sausage! (And cornmeal mush, of course.) It's really quite good, pan-fried until the outside is brown and crisp, then doused in maple syrup.... don't knock it 'til you've tried it! FYI, anytime you eat gourmet sausage, you're eating animal intestines - only the cheap, mostly filler "name" brands (Oscar Meyer, etc.) use some sort of artificial sausage casing, instead. And "menudo" and "tripe" are well-regarded delicacies in a lot of cultures. (Not to mention "sweetbreads".) >> I got something worse scrabble it is made of cow's various organs >> guess which ones > Really? The only scrapple (correct spelling - "scrabble" is a word-game) > I've ever encountered was made with pork sausage! (And cornmeal mush, of > course.) It's really quite good, pan-fried until the outside is brown and > crisp, then doused in maple syrup.... don't knock it 'til you've tried it! That is certainly what I remember. I remember once, my mother got someone to make beef scrapple for her special, because she quit eating pork for religious reason. I like sausage. And I like cornmeal mush. But I never could learn to like scrapple. Of course now we pretend we've got class and have always called it "Polenta" Jo my bad mis spell but you can eat all you like for all of us as soon as I saw it being made NOPE YOU CAN HAVE IT FYI anytime you eat peant butter enjoy the roaches > > (Oscar Meyer, etc.) use some sort of artificial sausage > casing, instead. And "menudo" and "tripe" are well-regarded delicacies in > a lot of cultures. (Not to mention "sweetbreads".) Hands up who knows what "sweetbreads" are. I do, do you? Tweed > > > (Oscar Meyer, etc.) use some sort of artificial sausage > > casing, instead. And "menudo" and "tripe" are well-regarded delicacies in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tweed yes. >> You know we need our pickled pigs feet >> I think I am going to be sick > > LOL...I have never understood some tastes. > > -L. That's because you have no taste. One of our cats have just been Diagnosed with Diabetes, and the only thing that takes her mind of the twice daily injections of Insulin Is a few chunks of Pork! Her eyes light up with the sight of it, taking her attention away from the needle in my other hand! Kate >> : Boots loves a chunk of cooked bacon anytime she can get it. And being >> : the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > --The Observer > > Pork biproducts by and large go into hot dogs and bologna. They are > > too expensive for cat food. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > they want to on a website, so I don't know if it's true or not. I wish > I could remember the reason specified. Probably because pork is higher in sodium than most other meats. The only pork we eat is lean shoulder loin, and occasional ham, but all the pets get are the loin. The ham is too salty. -L. > I did read somewhere that pork isn't good for cats. It was on one of > those websites about homemade cat food--I know anybody can say anything [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything > she'll eat. Actually, I've read that ham and bacon are bad for cats because they can caused intestinal inflamation (as can pastrami and corned beef). Raw pork might be bad for the same reason humans should always eat it well-cooked - it can carry a painful parasite that causes trichinosis. There's no reason (other than the aforementioned expense) why either cats or humans can't eat it (although many humans have religious objections). > Sherry Quite a few of our cats will eat bacon or really any pork that we give them. We just don't because it isn't that good for us so how good for the cats can it be? You have to cook it really well. I've had some turkey with bacon around it, so I gave the cats the bacon, it was pretty dried out anyway. Signature"Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and now, die, I think the Republicans have done a fine job of getting government out of our personal lives." > >> Pork biproducts by and large go into hot dogs and bologna. They are [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Sherry > Quite a few of our cats will eat bacon or really any pork that we give them. > We just don't because it isn't that good for us so how good for the cats can > it be? You have to cook it really well. I've had some turkey with bacon > around it, so I gave the cats the bacon, it was pretty dried out anyway. What is wrong with you people! Cats will and should eat any old sh.t. My cat loves rotten rodents which it finds on the highway! On 30 Sep 2005 09:23:54 -0700, wrote: >> Quite a few of our cats will eat bacon or really any pork that we give them. >> We just don't because it isn't that good for us so how good for the cats can [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Cats will and should eat any old sh.t. >My cat loves rotten rodents which it finds on the highway! I say starve the f.cker's for 2 weeks, They'll eat a damn peanutbutter and jelly sandwich. Finicky my a.s. - GIT-R-DONE! alt.usenet.legends.lamey >Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would >eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? A couple of thoughts. Laws and regulations regarding the handling of pork and pork scraps a animal food abound and differ widly from place to place. Vendors would have to be especially careful which stores got the pork products and who handled it because of the religious prohibitions surrounding it - you could not ship it to stores in Jewish or Muslim areas, nor could it be handled in transit by observant Jews or Muslims. Mistakes could have serious consequencies. SignatureT.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. I thought about the religious restriction thing. The store nearby that does have the ham cat food does not have nearly as high an observant Jewish or Muslim customer base as its competitor across the road. Coincidence? Blessed be, Baha > >Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > >eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." > somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. The other person is right pork is an expensive by product unlike a cow where every part is used some how My cats love it when we cook up a ham they get the fat off of it. And ignore some of the other trolls that I can see responded WE do < Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > Hi Ajanta, There is a local (to me in central NY) that sells a Ham based cat food in the 3 oz cans. That is the only ham/pork item that I have ever seen. Patti You must be referring to Wegman's. We have the ham chow at ours in Buffalo. Blessed be, Baha > < Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > > > Hi Ajanta, > There is a local (to me in central NY) that sells a Ham based cat food in > the 3 oz cans. That is the only ham/pork item that I have ever seen. > Patti You must be referring to Wegman's. We have the ham chow at ours in Buffalo. Blessed be, Baha > Yep! Wegmans it is. I live near Syracuse, and love to shop there. Patti Another upstate girl!!! Well hush my mouth and cover me in extra-hot wing-sauce! Blessed be! Baha > You must be referring to Wegman's. We have the ham chow at ours in Buffalo. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Patti >Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would >eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? I'd suggest that pork is a very expensive meat compared to some others... I don't think you'll see a lot of lamb catfood out there either. Our furry girls love ham and last night I had sweet roast pork for dinner and our little feline vacuumcleaner came running to beg so I gave her some scraps. Her sister thought it was plain nasty and tried to bury it! Signature~Karen aka Kajikit Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life http://www.kajikitscorner.com Online photo album - http://community.webshots.com/user/kajikit Our cats are notorious for thieving pork, particularly ham. Putting the story of our Roxie, stealing a chunk of ham right from Louie's sandwich, ultimately led to my posting on this group. They're so bats for h*m that we can't say the infamous word in their presence. Smoked pork, cured pig, trayf, non-Kosher, cochon, puerco, making piggy squeals, are about the only ways we can refer to this rare and highly favored treat. At least for the moment. If we dare say The Word, Roxie will come and yell and throw a princess fit because we dared say it without giving her some. We rarely serve people-food, but Roxie especially loves good h*m and once a month or so we go to the deli and get just enough to give the kids a piece or two, about the size of a Pounce. The deli people think we're a couple of crackpots. My in-laws think I just need to get pregnant. Blessed be, Baha > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? I did some research in Veterinary Journals and Vin.com (a Vet & Vet Tech website) and here's what I found out. On the Iams food labels it lists "animal fat" which a pig fat represents a small amount. (Melody Foess Raasch, D.V.M., Technical Services Veterinarian, Consumer Care, The Iams Company). Purina has documentation on their website that "While we do incorporate pork as an ingredient in some of our pet food products, we do not manufacture any dog or cat food products with pork as one of the primary ingredients. There is no reason from a nutrition standpoint not to use pork for pet foods. However, market research studies indicate that there isn't a lot of consumer demand for dog or cat food products which contain pork as a primary ingredient. Should that perception change, we would re-evaluate the use of pork as a primary ingredient in pet food products." Several vets have "alternate diets" and home-cooked diet recipes that have cooked pork as a protein source. Just thoughts. I have no specific facts > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? > I did some research in Veterinary Journals and Vin.com (a Vet & Vet Tech > website) and here's what I found out. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > change, we would re-evaluate the use of pork as a primary ingredient in pet > food products." Interesting. This certainly speaks to the role of consumer perception in pet food formulation. "Demand for dog or cat food products which contain pork as a primary ingredient.?" What would fuel that demand if not attractiveness of pork to the people buying the cat food. Nothing in these comments addresses the value or lack thereof of pork from a nutritional standpoint. The focus is on a "public perception" standpoint. >>I did some research in Veterinary Journals and Vin.com (a Vet & Vet Tech >>website) and here's what I found out. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > value or lack thereof of pork from a nutritional standpoint. The focus is on > a "public perception" standpoint. For all practical purposes, "animal protein" is "animal protein", isn't it? Flavors may differ, but nutritional properties are about the same. > Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would > eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why is that? Cost (expensive compared to most pet food protein sources) and probably religious concerns (e.g., Judaism, Islam) and possibly exaggerated fear of trichinosis (only if eaten raw or not cooked thoroughly). >Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Absolutely not. Pork is the primary ingredient in Hill's Prescription Diet m/d for diabetes management and metabolic weight loss due to its high protein (14g/100 kcal) and low carbohydrate (0) content. A high protein and low carbohydrate diet is a *true* carnivorous diet- high protein and low carbohydrates has been the cat's evolutionary diet for millennia. Phil : Cost (expensive compared to most pet food protein sources) I guess I don't understand the food industry. Naively I'd have thought beef, shrimp, etc to be more expensive than pork. : and probably religious concerns (e.g., Judaism, Islam) While I am aware of those taboos, easy abundance of pork in supermarkets and restaurants (for human consumption) suggests that except to observant individuals this is not a big deal. : and possibly exaggerated fear of : trichinosis (only if eaten raw or not cooked thoroughly). OK > : Cost (expensive compared to most pet food protein sources) > > I guess I don't understand the food industry. Naively I'd have thought > beef, shrimp, etc to be more expensive than pork. Pet food manufacturers don't use prime rib or jumbo shrimp in pet foods. Whatever isn't used for the human market is sold to pet food companies. OTOH, most of the pig can be used for the human market which makes pork expensive for pet food manufacturing. > : and probably religious concerns (e.g., Judaism, Islam) > > While I am aware of those taboos, easy abundance of pork in > supermarkets and restaurants (for human consumption) suggests that > except to observant individuals this is not a big deal. Manufacturing pork-based pet food would not be cost effective because of reduced popularity. Pet food manufacturers produce large varieties of types of food and flavors based on anthropomorphic appeal. People like and dislike specific flavors and different flavors and they assume their cats do too. Pet food manufacturers generally produce pet foods that appeal the most to humans. For whatever reason (religion, superstition, misinformation, myth) pork just isn't as popular as beef, turkey, chicken, and the other flavors. Sales relate directly to the amount of shelf space the products occupy- pork-based foods would take up shelf space that could be used for a more popular food. > : and possibly exaggerated fear of > : trichinosis (only if eaten raw or not cooked thoroughly). > > OK > Manufacturing pork-based pet food would not be cost effective because > of reduced popularity. Pet food manufacturers produce large [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > products occupy- pork-based foods would take up shelf space that > could be used for a more popular food. Perhaps calling a pet food flavour "ham" instead of "pork" would make it more appealing to the consumer? Pork sounds kind of crude, but most people like ham. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > > Manufacturing pork-based pet food would not be cost effective > because [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > it more appealing to the consumer? Pork sounds kind of crude, but > most people like ham. I'd bet a diet called "Virginia Ham" or "Ham & Cheese on Rye w/ lettuce, tomato and mayo" or "Baked Ziti and Sausage" for cats would sell like hotcakes. Phil. >I'd bet a diet called "Virginia Ham" or "Ham & Cheese on Rye w/ lettuce, >tomato and mayo" or >"Baked Ziti and Sausage" for cats would sell like hotcakes. Yeah, the cats would have to get in line behind me. SignatureWayne M (indulged by Will and Heidi) >>> Manufacturing pork-based pet food would not be cost effective >>> because of reduced popularity. Pet food manufacturers produce large >>> varieties of types of food and flavors based on anthropomorphic >>> appeal. People like and dislike specific flavors and different [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Phil. LMAO! I guess when it comes to pet foods, the "consumer" is actually the hoomin, and not the cat, so I can see it ;-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > LMAO! I guess when it comes to pet foods, the "consumer" is actually > the hoomin, and not the cat, so I can see it ;-) > -- Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. Down under we've got 'fresh' and 'homemade' dog foods that look like an expensive linguine!!! long live the yuppy!! SignatureThere are many intelligent species in the Universe. They are all owned by cats. Anonymous One cat just leads to another. -Ernest Hemingway > > LMAO! I guess when it comes to pet foods, the "consumer" is actually > > the hoomin, and not the cat, so I can see it ;-) > > -- > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. I was buying baby food for a cat we lost recently. She was diabetic and had chronic renal disease and was near her time, and she was very fussy about what she'd eat. I was in the baby food section of the store, and these young parents asked me if the Gerber ham was good. I said "my cat loves it, don't know about kids, never had any." They ran like I was Hannibal Lecter. I laughed until I thought I'd hurt myself. > I was in the baby food section of the store, and these young parents > asked me if the Gerber ham was good. I said "my cat loves it, don't know > about kids, never had any." > They ran like I was Hannibal Lecter. I laughed until I thought I'd hurt > myself. I hope you're joking. Someone thought you were needed to be avoided just because you gave your cat baby food?? How many people feed their pets pieces from the dinner table, anyway? I always worry about the opposite, myself: that someday I'll be at the checkout counter and the clerk will see all that meat-only baby food, think I'm not nourishing my baby properly, and call child protective services on me. :) Joyce what do kosher pigs eat? > > I was in the baby food section of the store, and these young parents > > asked me if the Gerber ham was good. I said "my cat loves it, don't know [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > because you gave your cat baby food?? How many people feed their pets > pieces from the dinner table, anyway? I think the implication was that the other customers thought she was saying her cats had never EATEN "kids", only ham! > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They ran like I was Hannibal Lecter. I laughed until I thought I'd hurt > myself. (LOL),..there's no accounting for lack of humour in some..sometimes our fellas will eat a small piece of bacon,..as they always jump up on the table and investigate what we are eating. I limit how much they eat as its very salty. They dont touch straight ham or corned meat,..but just about every other cooked meat, they will have a go at. Chicken, cooked or raw is popular,..tho raw chicken is their favourite. Jason > > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jason I would be careful giving your cats raw chicken just now - cats are susceptible to bird flu. Hugs, CatNipped > I would be careful giving your cats raw chicken just now - cats are > susceptible to bird flu. > > Hugs, > > CatNipped As Francis actually has cr*pped on the windscreen of my car (well, hurked a hairball actually), should I be concerned? Cheers, helen s ;-) >> I would be careful giving your cats raw chicken just now - cats are >> susceptible to bird flu. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As Francis actually has cr*pped on the windscreen of my car (well, > hurked a hairball actually), should I be concerned? might be concerned that your post has nothing to do with this thread, but other than that... cats generally can't choose when to hork up a hairball, AFAIK. Can cats not eat pork? Not the Muslim ones, its against the religion, swine and all that... The rest seem to manage no problem... >> I would be careful giving your cats raw chicken just now - cats are >> susceptible to bird flu. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheers, helen s ;-) B*gg*r... Just discovered this is cross-posted thread. B*gg*r... I *loathe* crossposting, even inadvertently. Apologies to the group. Cheers, helen s > > > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. > > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I would be careful giving your cats raw chicken just now - cats are > susceptible to bird flu. To true,..hadn't thought of that. We have had one case in a human in Oz. He apparently was holidaying in Asia somewhere. Jason >> > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. >> > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > CatNipped It's important to realise that eating poultry and poultry products, eggs etc will not give anyone/anything bird flu. Even if by some remote chance - you are far more likely to win the lottery - you actually ate a chicken that had it, it would not harm you or your cat. The media has gone a bit silly over this. Tweed > >> > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat food. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Tweed I was going by a news report that had said the bird flu killed tigers in a zoo in Thailand: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3755908.stm Hugs, CatNipped >> >> > > Very true. They know it is the bipeds that are buying the cat >> >> > > food. [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > CatNipped Ack. With all the coverage I've seen on TV here, that is the first I've seen of non-avian illness. Aside from bird handlers anyway. Jo > I was going by a news report that had said the bird flu killed tigers > in a zoo in Thailand: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > CatNipped Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger on my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! http://community.webshots.com/photo/325997400/507242303CfCYtC I feel so sad that so many of those beautiful tigers are dead :-( -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message > Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger on > my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! > http://community.webshots.com/photo/325997400/507242303CfCYtC He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? > "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger on >> my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! >> http://community.webshots.com/photo/325997400/507242303CfCYtC > > He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? Big Cats purr in only one direction (inhale or exhale I can't remember) > "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger >> on my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! >> http://community.webshots.com/photo/325997400/507242303CfCYtC > > He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? No, but he was making some pretty loud sucking and slurping noises when drinking from his bottle. And he was sooooo soft and his paws were absolutely huge :-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >when drinking from his bottle. And he was sooooo soft and his paws >were absolutely huge :-) That is SO amazing!!! What an enormous baby!! You look very pretty, too, Britta. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War >>> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby tiger [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You look very pretty, too, Britta. ;) Oh yeah. That was a pretty cool experience :-) But who wouldn't love to cuddle a baby tiger?!?! -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby > tiger on my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! > http://community.webshots.com/photo/325997400/507242303CfCYtC Hi Britta!! Welcome back - were you on vacation? I rejoined the ng about 2 weeks ago after my cat Smudge got attacked by 2 pit bulls. (She's OK now - just got her stitches out on Thursday. She's a lot more subdued than she used to be, but that's to be expected. She's still healing, both physically and emotionally. But she's eating and cleaning herself, the wound area looks fine, and she cuddles with me a lot.) That is an adorable picture. How did you get to feed the baby? He's gorgeous. Joyce > > Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby > > tiger on my lap and bottle fed him! Here's a pic! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce Hi Joyce, It's been hectic around here. Dennis came back from work and the next day friends from Canada showed up and then we were busy with them until yesterday. I got over 1000 messages behind and have been trying to catch up today. The reason I was at the tiger zoo in the first place is because our friends wanted to see it. It was my 3rd time there but this was the first time I actually forked out the money to feed the baby tiger. It was cheap, I should have done it before!!! I did hear about Smudge's accident with the pitbull, think I even posted a message about it. But since then I've been running around so much. I'm so glad to hear she is doing better now. What a scary time. Dennis and I are heading out tomorrow afternoon to Perth. We got our Australian permanent residency visa and this is our inital entry trip to validate the visa. We are going to move there in April. Busy busy! -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Oh yeah. That was a pretty cool experience :-) But who wouldn't love > to cuddle a baby tiger?!?! Ya know, I always enjoy hearing about your life. It's interesting and cool and you seem to enjoy yourself aside from too long separations from Dennis. But it never met the standard of Envy before. Feeding the tiger cub has definitely qualified for Envy. Jo > "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com > >>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > But it never met the standard of Envy before. Feeding the tiger cub has > definitely qualified for Envy. Is it that or because Britta is stunningly beautiful? ;) > "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jo Aww, thanks Jo. I do love my life. The last 5 years have been like winning the lottery. I am amazed at how much stuff I've gotten to do and see. I don't want to make people envious though! I wish you could feed a baby tiger too. How 'bout a trip to Thailand? :-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album If anyone every makes it Florida there is a tiger and lion farm that gives hand on experiences near Walt Disney world >> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > -- > Britta Very tempting. Probably just as well we made a long term commitment today that well keep us home for a while. More details on that later. Jo >>> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Jo Oooh, I'm curious! Actually, isn't there a place in California called Shambala where you can see and pet tigers and lions, etc? -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>>> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Actually, isn't there a place in California called Shambala where you > can see and pet tigers and lions, etc? I've seen them both up close and been able to touch them but never got to hold and feed one. I did get to hold a bear cub this summer. Jo >> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com >>>>>> He's gorgeous. Did he ever purr like a house cat? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > and see. I don't want to make people envious though! I wish you > could feed a baby tiger too. How 'bout a trip to Thailand? :-) I didn't realise you'd been there five years already, I remember when you posted from Canada. Where does all that time go to? SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>>> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Oh yeah. That was a pretty cool experience :-) But who wouldn't love >to cuddle a baby tiger?!?! While I haven't cuddled a baby tiger, I did get to cuddle and play with a baby African lion, back when I was a teenager. One of my cousins fostered a number of baby animals for the Louisville, Kentucky zoo on his farm. I used to have a photo of myself holding the little lion, but haven't seen the photo in 30 years or so, meaning that it probably was lost in one of our moves. That was the first that I knew that baby lions have soft, curly hair and spots. The spots go away as they get older; having never touched an adult lion, I don't know if the hair texture changes. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria John you cousin would not be running jackridge farms up there would he >>>>> "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> Wow, I was just at that tiger zoo on Sunday! Even had a baby [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > and spots. The spots go away as they get older; having never touched > an adult lion, I don't know if the hair texture changes. I also cuddled a baby lion when I was a teenager, one thing I remember was, he had incredibly sharp teeth. I thought at the time, I'm glad I'm not his mother, feeding time must be painfull. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) A House is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>"badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > when drinking from his bottle. And he was sooooo soft and his paws > were absolutely huge :-) I'm sure he'll grow into them! (But I expect his bottle-feeding days will be long past, by then.) > -- > Britta > "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > >>"badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Check out pictures of Vino at: > > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album *PLONK* > > >>"badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > *PLONK* damn! did you fall in or what hehehe > *PLONK* "You so studly with that killfile. :') Meanwhile, killfiles are for people who lack the self-control to simply pass over what they don't want to read. I never use them, but I understand why a twit like you does. " -- MaryS./Topaz/cybercat/Lumpy, Jan 21, 2005 ref: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/fe3e824568616811?d mode=source -L (with a bonus IP address that can be traced!). > > *PLONK* > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- MaryS./Topaz/cybercat/Lumpy, Jan 21, 2005 > ref: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/fe3e824568616811?d mode=source > -L > (with a bonus IP address that can be traced!). Killfile? Me? Is that what you think I meant by *PLONK*? > Killfile? Me? Is that what you think I meant by *PLONK*? what goes *PLONKT*? that's why I was thinking you fell in da tollet > > Killfile? Me? Is that what you think I meant by *PLONK*? > > what goes *PLONKT*? > > that's why I was thinking you fell in da tollet Aha! Although you are wrong, you are at least closer to the truth than Lyn. And much closer to God since you at have a sense of humor. How are you close? Because you realize that *PLONK* does not necessarily mean what it usually means, comprende? The answer to the riddle lies in the original post. Who, children, did I say *PLONK* to? Was it the same person who I said *PLONK* to in post made just a few minutes later? And if so, could I have actually killfiled her? Nooooo, I could not have. Now then, why might I want to say "PLONK* to Divamanque? Anyone? > Aha! Although you are wrong, you are at least closer to the > truth than Lyn. And much closer to God since you at have a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Anyone? You're more pathetic than Phil. -L. > > Aha! Although you are wrong, you are at least closer to the > > truth than Lyn. And much closer to God since you at have a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > You're more pathetic than Phil. It was Divamanque, Lyn. She regularly flounces out just to say *PLONK* with a great flourish. Just as a Diva should. I was poking fun at her. Bet she got it, too. > It was Divamanque, Lyn. She regularly flounces out just to > say *PLONK* with a great flourish. Just as a Diva should. > I was poking fun at her. Bet she got it, too. ok ok.. so PLONK is usually unexpected by the plonked? whereas KaPlonk might constitute someone "falling in" da tollet. ahight... ok ok,... lemme do one or someone knocking some sense into you >> It was Divamanque, Lyn. She regularly flounces out just to >> say *PLONK* with a great flourish. Just as a Diva should. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ok ok,... > lemme do one > or someone knocking some sense into you damn top posters! go wipe you're a.s on you're money or something STFU I get people b@tching about not knowing who I am replying to now I get you complaining about this >> or someone knocking some sense into you > > damn top posters! > > go wipe you're a.s on you're money or something just for you STFU I get people b@tching about not knowing who I am replying to now I get you complaining about this |
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