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Kreisleriana - 18 Sep 2005 21:36 GMT
By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.  

I thought this would go really well, but it is not.  Hoolikitten is
now happily bouncing all over his new digs-- much as Stinky did 13
years ago.

But Stinky, my sweet, dear boy, is miserable.  He hissed and puffed up
at the little boy (didn't help that the little boy was overjoyed to
see a prospective big brother, and playfully launched himself right at
Stinky's head), and has slinked into the basement, where he will not
come out, and growls and hisses at me when I come to check on him.

The kitten is a stitch, and I did get him because I want Stinky to
have more company when I am out.  I want them to be friends.  That's
the most important thing.  If Stinky stays miserable, Stinky comes
first, and the kit will have to find another home.  I'm praying it
will work out.

I don't really have a room to confine the kitten to, but I have a
playpen" to drop him in when I can't keep an eye on him.  

Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
happiness comes first.  

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Pat - 18 Sep 2005 21:40 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
> happiness comes first.

Have some patience, it will change. It may take a week or three, but it will
get much better.
Yowie - 18 Sep 2005 23:02 GMT
>> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
>> happiness comes first.
>
> Have some patience, it will change. It may take a week or three, but it
> will
> get much better.

Shmogg still entirely fails to get along with IBKFergus. I"ve given up
thinking that they'll get along, and just try to give them different spaces
to hang out in. I don't think it helps that when IBKFergus attacks Shmogg in
play, Shmogg takes it as a *real* attack and fights back. and of course,
when Shmogg attacks IBKFergus she interprets it as play rather than him
trying to inist he's the dominant cat, so she doesn't do the "OK, I accept
your dominance" thing in Cat.

Both have become phantom pissers, despite now having 3 well used
litterboxes.

I don't know where I can can get Feliway, or indeed, if it would help. I
susepct poor Shmogg just didn't cope well with the arrival of Fluffy, then
The Yowlet, and IBKFergus was the last straw. He's an old cat, and never had
the best temperament (he only accepts scritchings from me, won't sit near
anyone else etc etc) and I suspect, sadly, that he doesn't have alot
longer - maybe one or two years - left here before he goes to Rainbow
Bridge. I can't very well get rid of IBKFergus (besides which, she's not my
cat, her hoomin is most definatley Cary), nor will I find another home for
Fluffy, and poor old Shmogg has to have another think entirley if he thinks
I'll get rid of Cary for his benefit. So he'll just have to put up with the
situation as best he can.

That of course doens't help Kriesleriana at all.

If they don't see each other, the don't tend to fight, and thats about as
good as the status quo gets around here. There's the regular nighly brawl up
and down the corridor with much hissing and caterwailing as we're trying to
get Cary to go to sleep (b*st*rd c*ts), but otherwise Shmogg finds a
conveneient hidey hole and ignores IBKFergus (indeed, ignores the whole
world) during the day and IBKFergus has too many greeblings to chase to go
find Shmogg and bother him. At night, Shmogg lies next to my head, knowing
I'll shoo IBKFergus out at the slightest hint of sleep interruption (smart
cat). But they flatly don't get along, and after 9 months, I don't think
they ever will, despite IBKFergus being a very young female kitten when she
came into the hosue (allegedly the most likely to get on with an old
neutered male cat).

My advice to Krieleriana is: give them lots of their own space that the
other cat can't get to, and their own attention, and don't *expect* them to
become best of friends, especially if Stinky is a bit of a B*t*rd C*t int he
first place. Feliway may well work (I wish I could find a cheap source
here), but some cats just are, by nature, "only cats" and the best you may
get is an uneasy truce.

Good Luck!

Yowie
wafflycat - 18 Sep 2005 23:33 GMT
> I don't know where I can can get Feliway, or indeed, if it would help.

I get Feliway from TED here. I use the diffuser - which plugs into a wall
socket so the warmth allows the stuff to waft in the air (I can't smell it).
Seems to have done the trick - Waffles and Marble couldn't stand the sight
of each other. Marble is a big, brainless bully and Waffles is a highly
refined lady who couldn't abide having to share a home with that *thing*.
She got very stressed out and went into overgrooming mode.

Now they are fine and tolerate each other. They aren't going to be best
buddies and now Waffles is prepared to give the *thing* a resounding THWAP
across the face when he needs it. Which is a lot less frequently than it
used to be. The *thing* is mellowing too. I also make sure I give Waffles
plenty of attention to reassure her she is still Queen Of All She Surveys :)

Cheers, helen s
wafflycat - 18 Sep 2005 22:01 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
> happiness comes first.

It literally is a matter of time and patience.

Cheers, helen s
Exocat - 18 Sep 2005 22:31 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.
>
> I thought this would go really well, but it is not.

Concatulations on the new arrival, many more details & piccies, please!

I've done quite a bit of introducing (more than I wanted) so from
experience I'd suggest you give them a full months to reach an
accommodation.

In the interim you could take some of the pressure off Stinky
by playing with Hoolikit & tiring him out some so he's less
frisky with S. I know it's a tough assignment, but you ARE a
Noo Yorker :-)

Purrs
Gordon & the FF
Shiral - 18 Sep 2005 22:48 GMT
Congratulations on the newcomer, Theresa! Piccies! we want piccies! Or
failing that, descriptions! =o)

I second what everyone else has said.  Patience is the key, here. If
Stinky didn't KNOW he was getting a little brother, he might be angry
about that.  He's been the center of attention for years, and now
suddenly, he's got competition. But things will work out, I'm sure. You
have to let the cats settle it, until they act like they're seriously
going to kill each other. Give it at least a week and see if they're
getting along better by then.

Melissa
Kreisleriana - 18 Sep 2005 23:09 GMT
>Congratulations on the newcomer, Theresa! Piccies! we want piccies! Or
>failing that, descriptions! =o)
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>
>Melissa

Well, the thing that is upsetting is it seems as if Stinky has
abdicated his claim to the house.  First he holed up down in the
basement, and growled at me.  I put a gate up so he can't escape to
the basment, because I don't want him to sulk down there and feel
abandoned.  There are more comfortable places in his house to hide and
sulk if that's what he wants to do.  And it's still HIS house.  I want
him to know that.  I would feel better if he was walking around
asserting himself, and laying on the comfy beds that he owns.

But he's not laying claim to the comfy beds, he's hiding under them,
and grumbling all the time.    He's barely acknowledging me.  He's
making some scary jungle noises, too, but he's not asserting himself,
he's just hiding.   I just cannot bear to see my sweet boy so unhappy.
This little rascal has grown up with a big brother playmate-- a big
factor in my choosing him-- I knew he would be friendly to my boy.  

Anybody have experience with Feliway?  

As for the hoolikitten-- damn, my digital camera is not working, and I
don't know why-- pictures will have to wait.  I have decided not to
name him until I am sure he will fit in.  But he is a fantastic little
character, a real joy.  He is black with a white bib, paws, chin and
whiskers, a long kitty with huge bat ears.  He has a very funny, smily
face.  I really wanted a tabby this time-- I have had nothing but BW
cats in my life.  But as it so often goes, he picked me out.  Right
now he is romping around and sliding on the wood floor.  He reminds me
so much of Stinky when he first came home-- we've almost called him
Stinky a couple of times.

Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
these two sweet boys will be friends.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Pat - 19 Sep 2005 00:45 GMT
> Well, the thing that is upsetting is it seems as if Stinky has
> abdicated his claim to the house.  First he holed up down in the
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> This little rascal has grown up with a big brother playmate-- a big
> factor in my choosing him-- I knew he would be friendly to my boy.

You have just exactly described Baby Eye's reaction to the arrival of IBK
Beatrice. She wasn't even speaking to me in the beginning. It's a good thing
some of the other cats were willing to play with her, or she would have
driven me berserk.

I still say give it some time.
sriddles@aol.com - 19 Sep 2005 01:58 GMT
> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
> these two sweet boys will be friends.
>
> Theresa

Theresa, I've always confined New Cat to a bedroom for a few weeks. It
seems to work pretty well. The resident cats *know* there's an
interloper there, but they can't actually see it. They spend a lot of
time at the door grousing for a week or two. Since Stinky's already
made his mind up about Hoolikitten, isolation for the kitten may not
work at this stage.
I still think The Stink will come around eventually. The next stage is
disgruntled tolerance of the kitten. No hissing or growling, but he'll
act like the new kitten has cooties or something. That'll last a while.
Don't give up on the kitten too quickly. I think it's a good idea to
get Stinky a buddy, even if *he* doesn't think it's a good idea right
now.

Sherry
Kreisleriana - 19 Sep 2005 04:15 GMT
>> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
>> these two sweet boys will be friends.
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>
>Sherry

Thank you, and thank everyone for the encouragement.   Stinky has come
down to eat, and I think that is a good sign-- the interloper isn't
keeping him from doing what he has to do.  I'll keep you all updated.

The little one is so completely unperturbed and happy, it's so weird--
it's like a deja vu to the day I brought Stinky home.  That's why I
really hoped and thought they would get along-- this kitten is like a
mini-Stinky in disposition.  I so much hope Stink will get over the
initial freakout and see what a kindred spirit the little pest is. ;)

I can't wait till I can work out my camera problems and show you all a
pic of this little character.  He is cute as a button.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Adrian - 19 Sep 2005 10:27 GMT
<snip>
> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
> these two sweet boys will be friends.

Purrs that things work out and they become friends.
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Marina - 19 Sep 2005 11:37 GMT
> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
> these two sweet boys will be friends.

As an afterthought, it's awlays better to have *two* hoolikittens, who
will occupy each other instead of disturbing the old patriarch. I
recently proved that. :o)

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Kreisleriana - 19 Sep 2005 15:43 GMT
>> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
>> these two sweet boys will be friends.
>
>As an afterthought, it's awlays better to have *two* hoolikittens, who
>will occupy each other instead of disturbing the old patriarch. I
>recently proved that. :o)

This really isn't an option-- it took enough for me to be able to get
this one little fellow.  

And the issue isn't really that the baby bothers Stinky, since that
first encounter.  He doesn't do anything to pester Stinky-- he's
amazingly good at amusing himself.  Again, he's so much like Stinky
was when Stinky first arrived, it's funny.  

Stinky is just PO'ed that he's here at all.  Which makes me think that
another baby would just cause too much stress for Stinky and make him
feel outnumbered andoverwhelmed in his own home.

Stinky shows no signs of accepting the baby yet-- he is really
hostile.  But at least he has stopped hiding, and is on top of the
furniture instead of under it.

Again, thanks everyone for your advice and purrs.  I am going to need
a lot of encouragement.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Karen - 19 Sep 2005 16:08 GMT
> >> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
> >> these two sweet boys will be friends.
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> hostile.  But at least he has stopped hiding, and is on top of the
> furniture instead of under it.

Hey, I think that is big progress in one day. Do you put the kitten in
another room or the playpen for a while so Stinky gets "kitty free" time?
Kreisleriana - 19 Sep 2005 16:18 GMT
>> >> Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
>> >> these two sweet boys will be friends.
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>Hey, I think that is big progress in one day. Do you put the kitten in
>another room or the playpen for a while so Stinky gets "kitty free" time?

Stinky has nothing but kitty-free time.  He can spend all day on a
separate floor from HotStuff if he wants.   What concerns me, at least
for the moment, is that he is not acting like the Lord of the Manor--
he is yielding space to the little mite.  In a sense he's making much
more of the invasion than he should.  I would like him to understand
that he is still the boss of the house, and that everything that is
his is still his, but he is acting like he has to withdraw.  

But maybe it is still very early, and I am just so upset by his
reaction that it is hard for me to put it into perspective.

I spent an hour with him this morning, just cuddling, and he seems to
be not so mad at me anymore.  The baby is incredible-- he can just
amuse himself for ages, it seems.  He loves skidding on the wood
floor.  

I put in the order for the Feliway this morning.  Diffusers for
upstairs and down.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Marina - 19 Sep 2005 17:33 GMT
> Stinky shows no signs of accepting the baby yet-- he is really
> hostile.  But at least he has stopped hiding, and is on top of the
> furniture instead of under it.

I think that's great progress in such a short time. When I got Caliban,
Frank was still hanging out mostly in the sauna. I can't be sure that he
wouldn't have come out of the sauna more and earlier if Caliban had not
showed up. But now, after a month and a half, Frank is definitely Da Man
around here. He rules, the kittens had better obey him. And mostly they
do, and they can all co-exist in harmony. Many purrs for Stinky to
ralise it's a good thing to have a partner in crime. Or a scapegoat. ;o)

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Kreisleriana - 19 Sep 2005 19:27 GMT
Every tiny sign ofprogress is welcome to me-- just as I probably
exaggerated Stinky's bad reaction, I'll probably exaggerate any
positive sign of his adjustment.

The kitten is fine!  I can't express how much this is like a deja vu
of Stinky's arrival.   I might call the kit "Mini Me."  The kit is
great.  He's into everything, romps all over, keels over asleep,
climbs up me and cuddles on my shoulder, and has colonized poor
Stinky's main base of operations, the day bed. He eats, he drinks, he
poops in the litter box, and covers it up.  He is the silliest,
goofiest, cheefullest, jolliest, cheekiest, friendliest little bit I
have ever met since the Stinkman himself.  Like the Stink himself, he
arrived pre-adjusted, all ready to make himself thoroughly at home. ;)

So it's really Stinky's adjustment I am watching carefully.

I gave him a towel which he snuggled and slept on last night, then
brought the towel upstairs for Stinky to inspect, a scent exchange of
sorts.  

The kitten has thoroughly colonized me, climbing all over me,
headbutting, and cheek marking.  I must reek of the little bugger, and
Stinky let me know it the first few times I went to check on him.
Stinky hissed at growled at me -- oh, my sweert little boy!  Broke my
heart-- and I was puzzled, since I have come home countless times
reeking of other animals, cats and dogs, and Stinky has never cared.  

But-- hopefully for me- Stinky now seems to recognize his Mommy again,
despite the kitten stink, and is again greeting me lovingly.  I have
stocked up on kitty treats for both of them, and as mentioned before,
ordered the Feliway.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Adrian - 19 Sep 2005 20:39 GMT
> Every tiny sign ofprogress is welcome to me-- just as I probably
> exaggerated Stinky's bad reaction, I'll probably exaggerate any
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> stocked up on kitty treats for both of them, and as mentioned before,
> ordered the Feliway.

Continuing integration purrs.
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Irulan - 19 Sep 2005 22:12 GMT
Glad to hear a sort of peace is starting to blossom in your household.
Kittens are just so precious, and they make everybody love them, including
Stinky eventually it seems.
Lily & her mama
Jazz, RB

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> Every tiny sign ofprogress is welcome to me-- just as I probably
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> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com 
Shiral - 20 Sep 2005 01:16 GMT
Ah, but you never actually brought those OTHER cats or other animals
home. =o) And since Stinky could confirm he was the only cat on the
premises, he knew he was very much king of the roost.

But NOW...  he can hear, smell and feel another cat in HIS territory. A
vigorous young clown, too, with the potential of unseating Stinky from
his throne. And his meowmie seems to be making a habit of playing with
the little usurper. I continue to purr for a successful integration. It
seems that progress is being made.  Like Pat et Al, I say "give it more
time." While Stinky's making Lord of the Jungle noises, at least he's
not plotting ways to make the new kid's death look like an accident.

Melissa
*who wonders with vague anxiety if the new black and white clown in
Theresa's life is going to go through life as "Smelly". =o) He
certainly sounds like a charmer! And I know about kittens who do the
choosing of their hoomins.
polonca12000 - 19 Sep 2005 19:05 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for everything to work out really well for all
involved,
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> >Congratulations on the newcomer, Theresa! Piccies! we want piccies! Or
> >failing that, descriptions! =o)
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> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
SuzQ - 23 Sep 2005 15:43 GMT
Please, I very rarely ask for purrs, but please purr and pray that
these two sweet boys will be friends.

Theresa
===========================================
Will do Theresa.
Suz&Spicey
Karen - 18 Sep 2005 23:11 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

What kind of playpen? If he cannot get to Stinky, that is definitely a
place to start. How about the bathroom? Can it be set up for the kitten
so that Stinky can have some kitten free time? Will Stinky eat treats?
If there is something he would consider "really good" that you could
give him in the presence of the kitten, it would reinforce "good
feelings".  Piccies? And sometime the story too.
Victor Martinez - 18 Sep 2005 23:14 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
> happiness comes first.  

Three things:

1. Another kitten to keep the hoolikitten busy.
2. Feliway
3. Time

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Cheryl - 18 Sep 2005 23:56 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old
> hoolikitten.  

Congratulations! Now you see why I got two! :)  Actually, the
kittens were separate from Shamrock and Bonnie for the first month.
Mostly this was because they were sick. It's a good idea to try to
keep kitten separate if you can because URIs sometimes have a
delayed reaction, and the stress of a new home, hissing resident
cat, etc, can be enough stress to bring out a URI. Even if it's the
bathroom when you're not home, bedroom, anywhere. It's so hard to
leave them in there, oh I know! I spent time between the kitten
room and the rest of the house with Shamrock and Bonnie, but with
the two kittens they kept each other company when I wasn't in there
with them. With the separation even if there is no illness, it
gives Stinky time to adjust to the new smells and the idea of a new
playmate. Then hopefully his curiosity is piqued to where he
*wants* to meet him. Slowly of course!  :)

Best wishes, and I can't wait for piccies! Scritches for Stinky and
purrs for them both to eventually get along.

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Susan M - 19 Sep 2005 01:26 GMT
> The kitten is a stitch, and I did get him because I want Stinky to
> have more company when I am out.  I want them to be friends.  That's
> the most important thing.  If Stinky stays miserable, Stinky comes
> first, and the kit will have to find another home.  I'm praying it
> will work out.

I have no experience with this since O&C were both young we got them and
Chester's so agreeable that the two of them got along very well from the
beginning.  I will send great big O&C purrs to your two guys to figure it
all out.

Your new little guy sounds very adorable.  How old is he?

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Tish - 19 Sep 2005 04:51 GMT
I'm not sure if this is good advice or not, but we found that there was
a world of difference between introducing Columbine(RB) to Ted(RB) and
introducing Spock+Persephone to Ted.  Two kittens did a lot to work out
their abundant energy on *each other* and more-or-less left Ted alone.
Columbine, all on her ownsome, was bored and used to try to enlist Ted
as a playmate.  Mind you, once Ted made it *very* clear that she was
not some uppity kitten's plaything, Columbine latched (literally!) onto
the beagle and played with her (awfully cute).

Soooo ... if you have the space and resources, maybe you can get a
same-aged playmate for young whatsisname?  Similar to the way Marina
did with Miranda and Caliban?

Tish

> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.
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> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Steve Touchstone - 19 Sep 2005 09:05 GMT
>By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
>territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.  
<snip>

how long has it been? It was a week or two before Sammy and spot could
be in the same room without a hissy fit, and LB still hisses at Spot
sometimes when she comes into the room. Course Spot caused some
problems because she was agressive about defending her kittens, as
well as guarding the food bowl. That's over now, her bitties all have
forever homes, and she's learned to trust the food bowl isn't going to
stay empty for long.

Now Spot and Sammy play chase and wrestle often. I don't know if LB
will ever accept Spot as a friend. Spot wants to play with LB, but LB
just barely tolerates her presence. At least now they can both share
the recliner or bed.

>The kitten is a stitch, and I did get him because I want Stinky to
>have more company when I am out.  I want them to be friends.

I made the mistake years ago of getting a second cockatiel as company
for my bird. They never did more than barely tolerate each other.
Hopefully Stinky and the new kitten will get along better.
<snip>

>Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
>happiness comes first.  

Give them time, and we'll be sending purrs that they'll start to get
along. About the only suggestion - since you say you really don't have
room to separate them - would be maybe a second hoolikitten to keep
the first one busy ;-) Seemed to work for  Marina when she got Caliban
to occupy Mir and keep him from bugging Frank
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Marina - 19 Sep 2005 11:29 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.  
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> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
> happiness comes first.  

I don't know Theresa. I've always just let the cats figure it out among
themselves. Miranda hissed and growled at Caliban for about a week. As
you've seen from recent pictures, they are now best friends. Frank
wasn't very keen on Caliban at first, either, but he didn't seem very
put out. Just avoided Caliban as much as possible, and gradually even
started approaching him. He now gives Caliban at least one good wash
every day. I think that's more of a dominance thing than a personal
hygiene thing. He's spreading his own scent over the kitten. :oP

But congrats on the newq family member and heaps of purrs that he and
Stinky can work it out and eventually become friends. Of course, Mir-mir
and Cali are much closer in age, and both kittenish enough to want a
playmate, so that probably speeded up the process a lot. But I
understand that Stinky is a pretty playful guy, so maybe it will work
out. Just make sure Stinky knows he's not being replaced. Lots of luck!

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Christina Websell - 19 Sep 2005 20:57 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.
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> Anyone have any suggestions for salvaging the situation?  Stinky's
> happiness comes first.

I would put the kitten in the playpen and let Stinky investigate him.  He's
been used to being the one and only and of course he will sulk.  In a month
I think he'll be pleased, just hang on in there.
I'm dying to know how this new kitty happened out of the blue.

Tweed
Enfilade - 21 Sep 2005 02:35 GMT
> By a series of events I don't have time to report, poor Stinky's
> territory has been invaded by an adorable 16-week old hoolikitten.

I'm looking forward to hearing this story.

In the meantime, it took Nocturne a good month to begin to accept
Smokey's right to exist, so time and patience are key.  Let them come
together on their own volition.

--Fil
 
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