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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 16 Sep 2005 22:21 GMT
I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area.  One I particularly
like accepts small pets.  "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat".  Wtf??
If I move in with a cat that is not declawed, what's it going to tear up??
I've got cat scratching posts, and it's very easy to train a cat to use
them.

Obviously, I will wait to hear from them (as I wrote them regarding this
"declaw" issue).  That's discrimination!!!!!

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Kerry - 17 Sep 2005 09:06 GMT
Hi, Laurie.  I live in a big apt. complex with my 2 cats.  I was
already living here when I got them, though, and I had to get
permission first to get them as there is a quota.  On the first one,
they asked me if she was declawed and I said yes even though she
wasn't.  It's really mean to declaw cats as you probably know.  I
didn't think they would check her but would take my word for it.  There
are a lot of units here and I couldn't imagine that they would check my
cat's paws.  They didn't.

If they had wanted proof, I was going to ask my vet to write a fake
letter because I know he doesn't approve of declawing much.  I think he
does it if someone insists but they don't advertise it there or
encourage you to do it.

When I got my 2nd cat, I knew lying would work and it did again.  :)

I guess if this isn't a big complex you are looking at, you would have
to be more careful about lying.  I hope your letter works.  You could
ask them if they only rent to people with no fingers. LOL!

Kerry
plus Amy Sue and Bootleg, too
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 17 Sep 2005 10:04 GMT
> Hi, Laurie.  I live in a big apt. complex with my 2 cats.  I was
> already living here when I got them, though, and I had to get
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> Kerry
> plus Amy Sue and Bootleg, too

Or, you could get them to check the cat for claws, they might find out
the hard way! Only if you didn't really want the apartment though, it
would be worth it, karma wise.
Debra - 18 Sep 2005 05:00 GMT
>I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area.  One I particularly
>like accepts small pets.  "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat".  Wtf??
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Obviously, I will wait to hear from them (as I wrote them regarding this
>"declaw" issue).  That's discrimination!!!!!

Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core
doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws.
If you are looking for a place to rent many owners of rental
properties have already been financially burned by the need for
repairs to, or replacement of, items ruined by pets of renters who
didn't care what their pets did and the building owners feel they have
no other way to keep from being burned again unless they put limits on
new renters.  Usually the limit ends up being a no pets at all rule
caused by pets using the floors as toilets thus ruining the flooring,
or flea infestations left in apartment carpeting that are so bad a
pest control company has to be called in to correct the problem.   I
don't blame the owners of rental properties for trying to protect
their property from damage.  After all, if I owned rental property I'd
be making the rules.  I spent many years living in a no pets apartment
building and although I couldn't have a cat there it was a good place
to live.  One of the things I enjoyed the most was the fact that no
one could have a loud barking dog in the apartment beside mine.  

I have bought my own house and can now make my own rules.  I have
three rescued cats, all with claws intact.  If I had to look for a
place to rent today I would have to find a place that allowed cats.
Around here that would mean looking for a house to rent instead of an
apartment.  It's really no different from looking for a place that
allows kids, or a place that allows dogs.  The cats are part of my
life and I don't want to live where they are not wanted.  
Debra in VA
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Yowie - 18 Sep 2005 09:44 GMT
>>I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area.  One I particularly
>>like accepts small pets.  "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat".
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> to live.  One of the things I enjoyed the most was the fact that no
> one could have a loud barking dog in the apartment beside mine.

This is all true, however, I'd like to point out that a 17 month old toddler
can cause *far* more damage to the furnishings, carpet and walls than any
cat I know, and can make far more racket at totally inappropriate times too.
I speak from experience.... and know that the damage hasn't really even
started yet.

I don't think there's such a thing as "no kids allowed" here in Australia,
that would be discrimination. But if I was a landlord, I would still prefer
cats than kids in my house.

> I have bought my own house and can now make my own rules.  I have
> three rescued cats, all with claws intact.  If I had to look for a
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> allows kids, or a place that allows dogs.  The cats are part of my
> life and I don't want to live where they are not wanted.

Yup, thats the best thing about actually bying a house, you aren't subject
to the same rules and regulations as rentals or strata living.

Yowie
Cheryl - 20 Sep 2005 23:59 GMT
> This is all true, however, I'd like to point out that a 17 month
> old toddler can cause *far* more damage to the furnishings,
> carpet and walls than any cat I know, and can make far more
> racket at totally inappropriate times too. I speak from
> experience.... and know that the damage hasn't really even
> started yet.

Yup. There's crayons, and putting stuff down the toilet and flushing
till it overflows, and koolaid, and walking around with food, and
potty training, (and back in my day it was all cloth diapers and that
damned diaper bin with bleach in it got knocked over a few times),
and eating without help from mum, and then years from now there's
learning a musical instrument (very loudly!), and rock music on the
radio, and loud TV (teens are deaf, I swear sometimes!), and talking
on the phone for hours, and ... and ... I'd do all of it all over
again. :)

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Sep 2005 19:49 GMT
> Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core
> doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> no other way to keep from being burned again unless they put limits on
> new renters.

You've got to be kidding!  DOGS can cause a lot of damage -
that's why many landlords will allow cats, and not dogs -
but CATS??  I have lived in rental property for nearly fifty
years, and never saw any claw marks on woodwork, anywhere I
lived!  (Screens, maybe - although most screen doors have a
sort of ornamental grillwork which discourages such
behaviour - but owners are seldom shy about asking tenants
to pay for repairs for which they are responsible, and how
much does it cost to replace a piece of screen?)  Although
I've sometimes been asked to pay a "damage deposit" when I
moved in, I've always gotten it back when I moved out.  If
the woodwork is properly maintained (meaning painted when
needed) it is unlikely to be damaged by cat claws, nor is a
carpet of any reasonable quality.  (Stains from upchucked
hairballs, maybe - but most landlords at least clean the
carpets between tenants, and replace them if the prior
tenant lived there for a few years.)

Landlords have the right to refuse to rent to people with
pets (I wish it were still true for people with children -
kids can cause a LOT more damage than either cats or dogs).
 They do NOT have the right to require that prospective
tenants have their animals mutilated in order to live there!
 (Not that most of us would even consider doing so.)
Cheryl Perkins - 18 Sep 2005 20:34 GMT
> Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core
> doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws.
<snip>

That's what damage deposits are for, to protect the landlord against
damage, whether it's the pets, children or adults that cause it. I've yet
to be convinced that the average cat will do all that much damage, but of
course, it often takes only one bad experience to persuade a landlord that
pets just aren't worth dealing with.

When I was renting after I got the cats, I simply asked on the phone,
before even looking at the place, if there were any restrictions on cats.
Fortunately, in this part of the world, there rarely were, but I still
asked. One landlady who had previously had a no-pet rule even put it in
the lease after I asked about it - 'Tenant may have two (2) cats'.

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SuzQ - 21 Sep 2005 12:56 GMT

Debra <debnbilll@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core
> doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws.
<snip>

That's what damage deposits are for, to protect the landlord against
damage, whether it's the pets, children or adults that cause it. I've yet

to be convinced that the average cat will do all that much damage, but of

course, it often takes only one bad experience to persuade a landlord
that

pets just aren't worth dealing with.

When I was renting after I got the cats, I simply asked on the phone,
before even looking at the place, if there were any restrictions on cats.

Fortunately, in this part of the world, there rarely were, but I still
asked. One landlady who had previously had a no-pet rule even put it in
the lease after I asked about it - 'Tenant may have two (2) cats'.

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