Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2005
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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 16 Sep 2005 22:21 GMT I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area. One I particularly like accepts small pets. "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat". Wtf?? If I move in with a cat that is not declawed, what's it going to tear up?? I've got cat scratching posts, and it's very easy to train a cat to use them.
Obviously, I will wait to hear from them (as I wrote them regarding this "declaw" issue). That's discrimination!!!!!
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Kerry - 17 Sep 2005 09:06 GMT Hi, Laurie. I live in a big apt. complex with my 2 cats. I was already living here when I got them, though, and I had to get permission first to get them as there is a quota. On the first one, they asked me if she was declawed and I said yes even though she wasn't. It's really mean to declaw cats as you probably know. I didn't think they would check her but would take my word for it. There are a lot of units here and I couldn't imagine that they would check my cat's paws. They didn't.
If they had wanted proof, I was going to ask my vet to write a fake letter because I know he doesn't approve of declawing much. I think he does it if someone insists but they don't advertise it there or encourage you to do it.
When I got my 2nd cat, I knew lying would work and it did again. :)
I guess if this isn't a big complex you are looking at, you would have to be more careful about lying. I hope your letter works. You could ask them if they only rent to people with no fingers. LOL!
Kerry plus Amy Sue and Bootleg, too
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 17 Sep 2005 10:04 GMT > Hi, Laurie. I live in a big apt. complex with my 2 cats. I was > already living here when I got them, though, and I had to get [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Kerry > plus Amy Sue and Bootleg, too Or, you could get them to check the cat for claws, they might find out the hard way! Only if you didn't really want the apartment though, it would be worth it, karma wise.
Debra - 18 Sep 2005 05:00 GMT >I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area. One I particularly >like accepts small pets. "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat". Wtf?? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Obviously, I will wait to hear from them (as I wrote them regarding this >"declaw" issue). That's discrimination!!!!! Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws. If you are looking for a place to rent many owners of rental properties have already been financially burned by the need for repairs to, or replacement of, items ruined by pets of renters who didn't care what their pets did and the building owners feel they have no other way to keep from being burned again unless they put limits on new renters. Usually the limit ends up being a no pets at all rule caused by pets using the floors as toilets thus ruining the flooring, or flea infestations left in apartment carpeting that are so bad a pest control company has to be called in to correct the problem. I don't blame the owners of rental properties for trying to protect their property from damage. After all, if I owned rental property I'd be making the rules. I spent many years living in a no pets apartment building and although I couldn't have a cat there it was a good place to live. One of the things I enjoyed the most was the fact that no one could have a loud barking dog in the apartment beside mine.
I have bought my own house and can now make my own rules. I have three rescued cats, all with claws intact. If I had to look for a place to rent today I would have to find a place that allowed cats. Around here that would mean looking for a house to rent instead of an apartment. It's really no different from looking for a place that allows kids, or a place that allows dogs. The cats are part of my life and I don't want to live where they are not wanted. Debra in VA See my quilts at http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere
Yowie - 18 Sep 2005 09:44 GMT >>I was looking at townhomes on the Internet in my area. One I particularly >>like accepts small pets. "One small dog, or one small DECLAWED cat". [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > to live. One of the things I enjoyed the most was the fact that no > one could have a loud barking dog in the apartment beside mine. This is all true, however, I'd like to point out that a 17 month old toddler can cause *far* more damage to the furnishings, carpet and walls than any cat I know, and can make far more racket at totally inappropriate times too. I speak from experience.... and know that the damage hasn't really even started yet.
I don't think there's such a thing as "no kids allowed" here in Australia, that would be discrimination. But if I was a landlord, I would still prefer cats than kids in my house.
> I have bought my own house and can now make my own rules. I have > three rescued cats, all with claws intact. If I had to look for a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > allows kids, or a place that allows dogs. The cats are part of my > life and I don't want to live where they are not wanted. Yup, thats the best thing about actually bying a house, you aren't subject to the same rules and regulations as rentals or strata living.
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Cheryl - 20 Sep 2005 23:59 GMT > This is all true, however, I'd like to point out that a 17 month > old toddler can cause *far* more damage to the furnishings, > carpet and walls than any cat I know, and can make far more > racket at totally inappropriate times too. I speak from > experience.... and know that the damage hasn't really even > started yet. Yup. There's crayons, and putting stuff down the toilet and flushing till it overflows, and koolaid, and walking around with food, and potty training, (and back in my day it was all cloth diapers and that damned diaper bin with bleach in it got knocked over a few times), and eating without help from mum, and then years from now there's learning a musical instrument (very loudly!), and rock music on the radio, and loud TV (teens are deaf, I swear sometimes!), and talking on the phone for hours, and ... and ... I'd do all of it all over again. :)
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Sep 2005 19:49 GMT > Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core > doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > no other way to keep from being burned again unless they put limits on > new renters. You've got to be kidding! DOGS can cause a lot of damage - that's why many landlords will allow cats, and not dogs - but CATS?? I have lived in rental property for nearly fifty years, and never saw any claw marks on woodwork, anywhere I lived! (Screens, maybe - although most screen doors have a sort of ornamental grillwork which discourages such behaviour - but owners are seldom shy about asking tenants to pay for repairs for which they are responsible, and how much does it cost to replace a piece of screen?) Although I've sometimes been asked to pay a "damage deposit" when I moved in, I've always gotten it back when I moved out. If the woodwork is properly maintained (meaning painted when needed) it is unlikely to be damaged by cat claws, nor is a carpet of any reasonable quality. (Stains from upchucked hairballs, maybe - but most landlords at least clean the carpets between tenants, and replace them if the prior tenant lived there for a few years.)
Landlords have the right to refuse to rent to people with pets (I wish it were still true for people with children - kids can cause a LOT more damage than either cats or dogs). They do NOT have the right to require that prospective tenants have their animals mutilated in order to live there! (Not that most of us would even consider doing so.)
Cheryl Perkins - 18 Sep 2005 20:34 GMT > Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core > doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws. <snip>
That's what damage deposits are for, to protect the landlord against damage, whether it's the pets, children or adults that cause it. I've yet to be convinced that the average cat will do all that much damage, but of course, it often takes only one bad experience to persuade a landlord that pets just aren't worth dealing with.
When I was renting after I got the cats, I simply asked on the phone, before even looking at the place, if there were any restrictions on cats. Fortunately, in this part of the world, there rarely were, but I still asked. One landlady who had previously had a no-pet rule even put it in the lease after I asked about it - 'Tenant may have two (2) cats'.
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SuzQ - 21 Sep 2005 12:56 GMT Debra <debnbilll@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Wood window sills, window and door screens, door jams, hollow core > doors, hardwood floors, and carpeting can all be ruined by cat claws. <snip>
That's what damage deposits are for, to protect the landlord against damage, whether it's the pets, children or adults that cause it. I've yet
to be convinced that the average cat will do all that much damage, but of
course, it often takes only one bad experience to persuade a landlord that
pets just aren't worth dealing with.
When I was renting after I got the cats, I simply asked on the phone, before even looking at the place, if there were any restrictions on cats.
Fortunately, in this part of the world, there rarely were, but I still asked. One landlady who had previously had a no-pet rule even put it in the lease after I asked about it - 'Tenant may have two (2) cats'.
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