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POSTED: 6:04 pm EDT September 13, 2004
MICHIGAN CITY, Ind. -- You'll find some pretty tough cats at the Indiana
State Prison.
But the real felines have done nothing wrong. They're the pets of prison
inmates.
Officials say that over the years, stray cats have wandered into the
144-year-old prison.
Authorities have allowed some prisoners to keep the animals and now there
are 29 cat-owning inmates. According to prison officials, cats have a
calming effect on prisoner behavior. At least most of the time. There have
been prison fights over the felines.
But there's now an unwritten rule at the Indiana penitentiary -- you don't
mess with a man's cat.

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Karen Chuplis - 14 Sep 2004 03:47 GMT
> http://www.theindychannel.com/family/3727339/detail.html
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> But there's now an unwritten rule at the Indiana penitentiary -- you don't
> mess with a man's cat.
Wow. That's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of education they get? It
would, I would think, be good therapy.
Sherry - 14 Sep 2004 06:32 GMT
>> POSTED: 6:04 pm EDT September 13, 2004
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>Wow. That's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of education they get? It
>would, I would think, be good therapy.
I think that's a wonderful idea. I'm not a bleeding heart for prisoners or
anything, but it sounds like a winwinwin situation. The prison officials
benefit by the calmer prisoners. The cats benefit because there's too many
dying for lack of a home already. The prisoners benefit because IMO, the *one*
thing we don't ever lose as long as there is breath in our bodies is the need
to give, and receive love.
Sherry
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 14 Sep 2004 07:13 GMT
>I think that's a wonderful idea. I'm not a bleeding heart for prisoners or
>anything, but it sounds like a winwinwin situation. The prison officials
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>thing we don't ever lose as long as there is breath in our bodies is the need
>to give, and receive love.
I agree. People who learn to love and care for animals are more likely to learn
to love and care for people. Prison is about punishment but it should also be
about rehabilitation. I see this as a step towards emotional rehabilitation -
so possibly less likely to reoffend upon release. A shelter local to me has
prisoners from a local prison (low-grade, non-violent offences) helping out. It
helps the prisioners as much as it helps the animals.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Sep 2004 07:20 GMT
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> Wow. That's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of education they get? It
> would, I would think, be good therapy.
Well, I'm sure many of you have watched Animal Planet show
about prison inmates being given "service" dogs to train.
Very often, people can relate to aniumals when they have
problems relating to their fellow humans.
Howard Berkowitz - 14 Sep 2004 13:26 GMT
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> Very often, people can relate to aniumals when they have
> problems relating to their fellow humans.
Indeed, some of those programs are starting to release their human
prisoners, directly to jobs caring for animals. The early results seem
to indicate very high motivation and very low recidivism.
Karen - 14 Sep 2004 14:39 GMT
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> Very often, people can relate to aniumals when they have
> problems relating to their fellow humans.
Heh. And NONE of us here knows that feeling of being able to relate to
animals over humans ;))
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Sep 2004 21:50 GMT
>> Very often, people can relate to aniumals when they have
>> problems relating to their fellow humans.
>
> Heh. And NONE of us here knows that feeling of being able to relate to
> animals over humans ;))
My thought exactly, Karen! :)
Joyce
Aleks A.-Lessmann - 15 Sep 2004 06:16 GMT
>Wow. That's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of education they get? It
>would, I would think, be good therapy.
I saw a documentary here in Germany some time ago. Prisoners with no
record of violence in their criminal history raised puppies designed to
be blind leading dogs.
They not only put all their heart into the job (and cried when they had
to give away the puppies) but after getting out of prison not one of the
inmates relapsed. Seems the puppies where not the only ones gaining from
the deal.
And in a prison for juvenile delinquents - again here in Germany - they
have a small zoo with rabbits and ducks and whatever else. It's the job
of the inmates to take care of the animals. And they consider it an
honor to be delegate to that job.
OTOH, today in the news there was a sad story of 4 kids abusing animals
because "they were bored", so not all is nice in this country...
Sigh, humans...
Aleks
Karen - 15 Sep 2004 15:03 GMT
> >Wow. That's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of education they get? It
> >would, I would think, be good therapy.
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> of the inmates to take care of the animals. And they consider it an
> honor to be delegate to that job.
I have seen a similar program here (Prisoner's for Puppies or something like
that) and I believe I have even seen that they help with the wild mustang
preserves also.
bonbon - 14 Sep 2004 04:14 GMT
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:39:23 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©"
<nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>http://www.theindychannel.com/family/3727339/detail.html
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>But there's now an unwritten rule at the Indiana penitentiary -- you don't
>mess with a man's cat.
Isn't it great?
A while back, PBS ran a special about cats and one of the stories was
similar to the Indiana Prison story you posted. I can't remember
which state it was, but one of their prisons invited one of the local
shelters nearby to bring cats over one day per week, and volunteer
prisoners spend time with them, groom them, bathe them and so on to
make the cats more adoptable. The cats as well as the inmates really
seemed to enjoy the activity.
I wonder if the Indiana State Prison has a vet come check the cats
out, give shots, etc?
-bonbon
Marina - 14 Sep 2004 15:36 GMT
Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
> MICHIGAN CITY, Ind. -- You'll find some pretty tough cats at the Indiana
> State Prison.
>
> But the real felines have done nothing wrong. They're the pets of prison
> inmates.
This is great. I only found one fault here.
> Authorities have allowed some prisoners to keep the animals and now there
> are 29 cat-owning inmates.
Shouldn't that be inmate-owning felines? ;o)

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Mary - 14 Sep 2004 18:58 GMT
>According to prison officials, cats have a
>calming effect on prisoner behavior.
I think this is absolutely wonderful. It gives them something positive to do.
They get a loving feline companion in a dismal place and a feline gets much
needed love and care. If I lived near this place, I'd offer to donate some cat
food and toys to the kitties.
CATherine - 16 Sep 2004 00:42 GMT
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:39:23 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©"
<nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
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>But there's now an unwritten rule at the Indiana penitentiary -- you don't
>mess with a man's cat.
I think this is great. Cats do work miracles. Here they are teaching
criminals to care for someone besides themselves. As well as respect
for someone else's property.
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CATherine
Yoj - 16 Sep 2004 02:01 GMT
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> CATherine
I agree.
Joy