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Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 06:26 GMT
When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
tangled hair, and proceeded to brush QC's long thick fur.  I rarely, for
obvious reasons, brush QC's underside, but today I did. I got really
into the underfur and made a discovery of epic proportions.

Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
 A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.

Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat
Takayuki - 14 Sep 2004 06:50 GMT
>When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
>and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
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>
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

OMG.  Are you serious?!  How many years have you had QC, and how many
times have you taken QC to the vet?  It's amazing. ;)
Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 07:15 GMT
> OMG.  Are you serious?!  How many years have you had QC, and how many
> times have you taken QC to the vet?  It's amazing. ;)

The Cooch joined us in 98, and has averaged one vet visit a year.
However, he'd never needed any looking at in that area.  The vet just
assumed, as we did, that all that fur wasn't hiding anything of a male
nature.  His maleness is tucked up way up his belly and doesn't show in
any way from behind.  I wouldn't have noticed it at all, except that I
finally got the fur parted and, well, there it was.

I'm still embarrassed and bemused.

Pam S.
Kajikit - 14 Sep 2004 09:13 GMT
Tanada had something important to tell us on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:15:28
GMT:

>The Cooch joined us in 98, and has averaged one vet visit a year.
>However, he'd never needed any looking at in that area.  The vet just
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>
>I'm still embarrassed and bemused.

LOL! He must be a very well-behaved boycat if you've never noticed
typical male behaviour... now you know are you going to arrange
another quick vet visit for the poor blighter?

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Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 21:56 GMT
>  
> LOL! He must be a very well-behaved boycat if you've never noticed
> typical male behaviour... now you know are you going to arrange
> another quick vet visit for the poor blighter?

Nope.  He's obviously neutered, so no reason to take him in.  I'll get
them to fix the records when we take him in for his annual shots later
this year.

Pam S.
jmcquown - 14 Sep 2004 14:45 GMT
>> OMG.  Are you serious?!  How many years have you had QC, and how many
>> times have you taken QC to the vet?  It's amazing. ;)
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>
> Pam S.

You realize he's been laughing at you all this time, right? ;)

Jill
Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 21:57 GMT
> You realize he's been laughing at you all this time, right? ;)
>
> Jill

That might explain why he's so gentle.  Dealing with crazy people can be
very tricky.

Pam S.
Jean Hobbs - 19 Sep 2004 13:24 GMT
When I had Zac, who was a wonderful looking cat, extremely handsome,
He was spayed at 7 months that was the earliest they did it then, but even
after that, he was hung like a dog, and you could never have mistaken him
for a female, I personally have never seen a cat like that before or since,
and his attitude was all male too Sorry Guys, nothing bad just that he was
very macho
he was the equivalent of a human greek god.    Jean.P.

> > OMG.  Are you serious?!  How many years have you had QC, and how many
> > times have you taken QC to the vet?  It's amazing. ;)
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>
> Pam S.
Yoj - 14 Sep 2004 07:30 GMT
> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Thanks.  I needed a laugh.

I don't remember how long you've had QC, but I once had a cat named
Tawny.  His original name was Tanya, because I thought he was a she. I
think I discovered it a couple of weeks after he moved in, but he was a
short-haired kitten.  I can see why a long-hair would take longer to
unmask.

Joy
Sherry - 14 Sep 2004 09:13 GMT
>Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
>  A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.

Oh, dear. QC, the Cat in Drag.
Don't be embarrassed, hon. I lived next door to a guy and didn't figure out he
was a guy for months. Such is the world we live in. :)

Sherry
Helen Miles - 14 Sep 2004 16:04 GMT
> Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
>   A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

So was QC fixed when you got him then? Otherwise I'd be looking for a
different vet! ;o0

Helen M

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Takayuki - 14 Sep 2004 16:43 GMT
>So was QC fixed when you got him then? Otherwise I'd be looking for a
>different vet! ;o0

I figure that Pam must've picked up QC as a lost neutered boy, and
when she didn't see any danglies, thought QC was a lost adorable girl.
When QC never went into heat, the matter was quietly forgotten, with
everyone assuming that QC must've gotten spayed at some point.
Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 22:00 GMT
>>So was QC fixed when you got him then? Otherwise I'd be looking for a
>>different vet! ;o0
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> When QC never went into heat, the matter was quietly forgotten, with
> everyone assuming that QC must've gotten spayed at some point.

Pretty much correct, as usual, Tak.  We all, including the vet, assumed
that QC was a spayed female.  No one really wanted to part that fur to
make sure, after looking at QC's paw spread (about three inches)

Pam S.
Takayuki - 15 Sep 2004 19:51 GMT
>Pretty much correct, as usual, Tak.  We all, including the vet, assumed
>that QC was a spayed female.  No one really wanted to part that fur to
>make sure, after looking at QC's paw spread (about three inches)

But isn't Coochie (I love that name) very gentle?
Tanada - 15 Sep 2004 21:29 GMT
>>Pretty much correct, as usual, Tak.  We all, including the vet, assumed
>>that QC was a spayed female.  No one really wanted to part that fur to
>>make sure, after looking at QC's paw spread (about three inches)
>
> But isn't Coochie (I love that name) very gentle?

Yes, but we didn't know it at the time, and who really wants to take
chances.  The Cooch is extremely gentle, but he just about decimated the
wild animal population in our back yard before he came in from the out.
  I find that I still tend to refer to him as she.  Good thing he
doesn't carry a grudge.

Pam S.
Tanada - 14 Sep 2004 21:58 GMT
>>Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
>>  A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.
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>
> Helen M

Fixed and not bothering to fire anything.  No wonder why he acted like
he was going to spray on occasion.  I've had girl cats do that too, so
didn't think much of it.

Pam S
Jo Firey - 14 Sep 2004 22:15 GMT
>>>Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE! A
>>>tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.
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> was going to spray on occasion.  I've had girl cats do that too, so didn't
> think much of it.

I wouldn't either.  Our first bitch learned from her beloved neighbor dog to
lift her leg to pee.  And its been passed down by generation around here so
our current bitch does the same.  Though she has refined it into a squat on
one leg deal so at least she doesn't pee down the other leg.

Jo
SUQKRT - 14 Sep 2004 17:51 GMT
>Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
>
>  A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.
>
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Oh my goodness!
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Ginger-lyn Summer - 14 Sep 2004 19:08 GMT
>When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
>and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
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>
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Pam, don't feel too embarrassed.  You're in good company ;-)  Yep,
same thing exactly happened to me many years ago with Circe.  Oops!
lol!  I joked I should change the spelling to "Sir Sea", but I never
did.

Ginger-lyn
Christine Burel - 15 Sep 2004 05:10 GMT
> >When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> >and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
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>
> Ginger-lyn

Back in 1987, we took in a long-haired stray red and white kitten -- another
case of masked identity -- we named her Shetra because it was an exotic
feminine-sounding name from a book I was reading; turned out "she" was a
"he," but he already knew his name so he got to keep it.

Chrisitne
mlbriggs - 14 Sep 2004 19:12 GMT
> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Gee!  I hope you didn't have HIM spayed.  MLB
Nan - 14 Sep 2004 19:37 GMT
>When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
>and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Don't feel bad, the same thing happened to my daughter.  They had this
beautiful long-haired kitty show up at their door.  They named her
Miss Kitty.  Everything was fine until they took Miss Kitty to TED to
be checked out and spayed.  They dropped Miss Kitty off at TED in the
morning, and when they got back home they had a phone call from TED
telling them that they could come back and pick up MR. Kitty.
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lewe - 14 Sep 2004 21:21 GMT
Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> skrev i
diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:Rhv1d.1077$n16.565@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink
.net...
| When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
| and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| Do you know that all this time, QC has been masquerading?  She is a HE!
|   A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.

what can I say ... better late than never?
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badwilson - 15 Sep 2004 02:09 GMT
ROFL!!!  That happened to us with my first cat, Nicki.  I was only 10
and my parents knew nothing.  They wanted the cat to have one litter
before spaying to let me experience the miracle of birth (rolling
eyes, I know, I know!).
Nicki got fat but nothing ever came out.  3 years later we finally
clued in about how there were a lot of similar looking long haired
brownish black cats in the neighbourhood.  We took him to the vet who
confirmed that Nicki was a boy and proceeded to chop his bits off.  In
our defence, it was really hard to see anything because he had so much
long fur.
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> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
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>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat
Singh - 15 Sep 2004 04:27 GMT
I'm sorry; forgive me;  I HAVE to ask this; QC doesn't stand for "Queen
Cat," does it?

If you would like to kick my butt now, please let me know. I probably have
one coming from somewhere...

Blessed be,
Baha

> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat
Kreisleriana - 15 Sep 2004 04:43 GMT
>I'm sorry; forgive me;  I HAVE to ask this; QC doesn't stand for "Queen
>Cat," does it?
>
>If you would like to kick my butt now, please let me know. I probably have
>one coming from somewhere...

Or "Queen's Counsel"!  Hee hee .  Q.C., Q.C.  ;)

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Sep 2004 09:04 GMT
> I'm sorry; forgive me;  I HAVE to ask this; QC doesn't stand for "Queen
> Cat," does it?

"Quality Control". Conveniently gender neutral! :)

Joyce
Tanada - 15 Sep 2004 19:16 GMT
> I'm sorry; forgive me;  I HAVE to ask this; QC doesn't stand for "Queen
> Cat," does it?
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> Blessed be,
> Baha

Actually it stood for Quality Control office which is what they called
the Technical inspection shop at Fort Bliss when Rob worked there,
inspecting helicopters.  It was the easiest way we could think of to
convince Rob to let us take "her" in.  However, QC has been called
"Queen Cat" on occasion.  Now a couple of the kids are calling him
"Queer Cat" when they don't think Rob is listening.  Rob is not amused.

Pam S.  Living with the strange
Seanette Blaylock - 15 Sep 2004 06:50 GMT
Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say
about Well Now We know:

>When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
>and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>  A tranvestcat.  A boycat in female fur.  I am SO embarrassed.
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

Uh, you'd never taken him to TED for neutering? :-)

Reminds me of not only my own little mixup about the bird ("he" laid
an egg about a week ago, for the first time in 21 months of
acquaintance), but what happened about a year ago to a friend of mine.
Lori had decided she needed another cat (and convinced her DH of it),
so went to the shelter and promptly found her new owner. Said new
owner was duly conveyed to TED for a spay. Lori got a call from TED's
office: "Uh, about the cat you brought in for a spay? Turns out he's
already neutered." This *after* the poor little guy's tummy had been
shaved for surgery. :-)

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Sep 2004 09:07 GMT
> Lori got a call from TED's
> office: "Uh, about the cat you brought in for a spay? Turns out he's
> already neutered." This *after* the poor little guy's tummy had been
> shaved for surgery. :-)

Whew! I thought for sure you were going to say it was after the little
guy's tummy had been *cut* already. (I've heard of that happening!) Shaved
isn't so bad, by comparison!

But really, vets should never take anyone's word for it when they insist
the animal is a particular gender. Ordinary people do make that mistake,
seems to happen rather often, actually. I find it much less excusable when
a vet does it!

Joyce
Victor Martinez - 15 Sep 2004 13:45 GMT
> already neutered." This *after* the poor little guy's tummy had been
> shaved for surgery. :-)

Awww.... poor baby! And they'd probably put him under already... you
would think TED would check beforehand...

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Seanette Blaylock - 15 Sep 2004 17:28 GMT
Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: Well Now We know:

>> already neutered." This *after* the poor little guy's tummy had been
>> shaved for surgery. :-)
>Awww.... poor baby! And they'd probably put him under already... you
>would think TED would check beforehand...

Apparently, the assumption was made that shelter staff (possibly
including a TED) could determine the gender of a short-haired cat
accurately. :-)

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mlbriggs - 15 Sep 2004 17:29 GMT
> Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say
> about Well Now We know:
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> already neutered." This *after* the poor little guy's tummy had been
> shaved for surgery. :-)

This happened to my Siamese.  The young Vet said he did not see a scar so
opened her and found she had already been done.......  I felt terrible
(and so did Princess) that she had that unnecessary operation.  She was a
stray about two years old at the time.  MLB
Steve Touchstone - 15 Sep 2004 20:10 GMT
>This happened to my Siamese.  The young Vet said he did not see a scar so
>opened her and found she had already been done.......  I felt terrible
>(and so did Princess) that she had that unnecessary operation.  She was a
>stray about two years old at the time.  MLB

Guess it's something that happens pretty regularly, even if not
exactly common. When LB and Sammy were spayed their TED suggested a
tattoo next to the incision. That way, if, heaven forbid, I lost them
they wouldn't have to be opened up just to find they'd already been
spayed. My regular TED provides several little services like this at
no cost - but makes up for it by charging plenty when he does charge
;-)
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LOL - 15 Sep 2004 07:53 GMT
> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

ROFL!!
Cheryl Perkins - 15 Sep 2004 13:34 GMT
It happened to me with Betsy, who was rather wild when I adopted her so I
didn't make a really close examination. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking
to it! I was told by the people who caught her she was a male. So I take
her to the vet, and explain that I want 'him' to have a physical exam,
and, if 'he's' healthy, I want to schedule neutering & vaccinations. The
vet says 'SHE'S a very healthy-looking cat...' and I felt like an idiot!

Cheryl
Christina Websell - 16 Sep 2004 01:36 GMT
I think it can happen to anyone, especially if the cat is a LH.
BTW, my grandmother was a Perkins, maybe we're related?

Tweed

> It happened to me with Betsy, who was rather wild when I adopted her so I
> didn't make a really close examination. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking
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>
> Cheryl
LOL - 16 Sep 2004 07:00 GMT
> I think it can happen to anyone, especially if the cat is a LH.
> BTW, my grandmother was a Perkins, maybe we're related?
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> >
> > Cheryl

Oh hey!  My grandmother was a Perkins too!  Maybe we can have a reunion.  :-D
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Christina Websell - 16 Sep 2004 22:47 GMT
>> I think it can happen to anyone, especially if the cat is a LH.
>> BTW, my grandmother was a Perkins, maybe we're related?
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> ------
> Krista

What are the names of *your* Perkins relatives?  My aunt and uncle, the ones
who are staying with me at the moment have done quite extensive genealogy on
Perkins & Palmer families.  They are Mormons.  Seanette will understand why
they've done it.
They've got it back to the late 1600's/early 1700's.  It's very interesting.
Another name connected with Perkins is Pawley.

Tweed
LOL - 20 Sep 2004 02:44 GMT
> What are the names of *your* Perkins relatives?  My aunt and uncle, the ones
> who are staying with me at the moment have done quite extensive genealogy on
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

Errrr... my great-grandfather's first name probably wasn't "Dr." but
that's the only way I've ever heard him referred to.  All my Perkins
relatives are long dead, but maybe someday I'll see what I can find
out.  I'm sure *someday* I will have the time and energy for such a
thing.  Someday.   :-)

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Cheryl Perkins - 16 Sep 2004 13:12 GMT
> I think it can happen to anyone, especially if the cat is a LH.
> BTW, my grandmother was a Perkins, maybe we're related?

> Tweed

Bets is a shorthair! She was young, but not a tiny kitten; the vet
estimated her age at about 6 months. I thought maybe a bit younger because
she looked kind of scrawny, but that changed as soon as she started
getting regular meals.

If we're related, and you're posting from the UK, it would be way back. My
Perkins family came from Maine, USA. A couple of my Perkins relatives did
the family history and found out when that particular branch left the UK.
I'd have to look up the booklet they sent me for the date, but it was at
least a couple hundred years ago, IIRC.

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Christina Websell - 16 Sep 2004 22:41 GMT
>> I think it can happen to anyone, especially if the cat is a LH.
>> BTW, my grandmother was a Perkins, maybe we're related?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> she looked kind of scrawny, but that changed as soon as she started
> getting regular meals.

Ah, well <g>   anyone can make a mistake!

> If we're related, and you're posting from the UK, it would be way back. My
> Perkins family came from Maine, USA. A couple of my Perkins relatives did
> the family history and found out when that particular branch left the UK.
> I'd have to look up the booklet they sent me for the date, but it was at
> least a couple hundred years ago, IIRC.

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Lois Perkins, my great grandfather's sister, emigrated to the USA, Boston,
Mass, in 1913. So, it's likely that is too recent for us to be related.

Tweed
Cheryl Perkins - 17 Sep 2004 01:22 GMT
> Lois Perkins, my great grandfather's sister, emigrated to the USA, Boston,
> Mass, in 1913. So, it's likely that is too recent for us to be related.

It's also unlikely if she married and changed her name! According to the
info I have, my ancestor Wesley must have been busy in the eastern US
around then, as in 1918, he was looking for work and courting his future
wife in New York and New Hampshire. They must have gone to Maine at a
later date. John Perkins, a more remote ancestor, left Bristol in 1630.
The cousin who provided the information traced the family back to
Warwickshire, and possibly Shropshire.

Cheryl
Adrian - 15 Sep 2004 16:40 GMT
> When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

LOL, Thanks Pam. After all the sadness I needed a laugh.
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Howard Berkowitz - 15 Sep 2004 18:34 GMT
> > When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
> > and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> LOL, Thanks Pam. After all the sadness I needed a laugh.

With all the Mothership games, I rechecked Ding after his walkabout.  
This is not difficult, as he is sprawled on my computer table next to
the trackball.

Yes, neutered male confirmed, as well as demand for tummy skritch.  He
is the cat of my acquaintance most insistent on regular tummy attention.
CATherine - 16 Sep 2004 00:42 GMT
>When I got home from work today, QC was laying on my side of the bed,
>and I wanted to lay down.  So I grabbed my hairbrush, the one for really
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Pam S. owned by 6 boycats and 1 girl cat

ROFL!! But it is hard to tell even without the hairy mass in the way.

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