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LOL - 07 Sep 2004 04:48 GMT
If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.

We are supposed to call TED this week to make an appointment for
Tallulah's spay and Hubert's shots.  (Today is a holiday in the US,
and TED is closed.)  It's been raining steadily for two days, and all
day today the wind has been topping 50 mph.  With impeccable timing,
Tallulah has decided that *now* is the perfect time to get started on
a new batch of kittens, and has gone into heat today.

We will be at TED's office, prepared to beg, first thing in the
morning, but until then, if any of you Cattish speakers could
translate a short statement for me to read to Tallulah, the gist of
which should be "I'm a different species and I'm female, so you're
wasting your time" I would very much appreciate it.   ;-)

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Krista
Tanada - 07 Sep 2004 05:12 GMT
> We will be at TED's office, prepared to beg, first thing in the
> morning, but until then, if any of you Cattish speakers could
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ------
> Krista

Sorry Krista, but this is just too funny.

Pam S. laughing
Marina - 07 Sep 2004 05:14 GMT
> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> which should be "I'm a different species and I'm female, so you're
> wasting your time" I would very much appreciate it.   ;-)

Sorry, though I am a translator, I don't speak Cattish, so can't help
you with that, but the cats are sending calm-down-already purrs to
Tallulah. Is she getting aggressive towards Hubert? This happened with
Kira when she went into heat and one of her male kittens was still at
home with her. I think that's just Nature's way to make sure a mother
doesn't mate with her own son.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 Sep 2004 06:15 GMT
> Is she getting aggressive towards Hubert? This happened with
> Kira when she went into heat and one of her male kittens was still at
> home with her. I think that's just Nature's way to make sure a mother
> doesn't mate with her own son.

I don't follow this, Marina. If Kira goes into heat when her male kitten
is around and available, how does that prevent her from mating with him?

Joyce
Marina - 07 Sep 2004 06:37 GMT
>  > Is she getting aggressive towards Hubert? This happened with
>  > Kira when she went into heat and one of her male kittens was still at
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I don't follow this, Marina. If Kira goes into heat when her male kitten
> is around and available, how does that prevent her from mating with him?

My point was that the fact that she is very aggressive towards him
prevents her from mating with him. She won't let him anywhere near her.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 Sep 2004 06:41 GMT
> My point was that the fact that she is very aggressive towards him
> prevents her from mating with him. She won't let him anywhere near her.

Ah.... (duh). So he won't get the idea that her need to mate is directed
at *him*.

Joyce
O J - 07 Sep 2004 08:22 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
> though I am a translator ....
---------------------<snip>----------------------

Aha!  Now I know why you're so good.  I have always been amazed at
your command of the English language.  USAians are expected to study
foreign languages, but few of us practice enough to make the
breakthrough and become able to speak and write them fluently.
Whereas, if you want to insult a European, tell them that their
English is awful.

I've almost made the final breakthrough twice, once with German and
again with Spanish.  Unfortunately, I've let both of them lapse.  When
do you all practice?  Do you sit around at night with friends and
decide that everyone will speak some other language for the evening?
I can't conceive of any other way to get in the practice that's
needed.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Marina - 07 Sep 2004 16:27 GMT
> I've almost made the final breakthrough twice, once with German and
> again with Spanish.  Unfortunately, I've let both of them lapse.  When
> do you all practice?  Do you sit around at night with friends and
> decide that everyone will speak some other language for the evening?
> I can't conceive of any other way to get in the practice that's
> needed.

LOL! No, I practice here on rpca all the time. ;o) Nobbut, I used to
live in the US as a child, so I learned to speak and, more importantly,
to read and write English then. After we moved back to Finland, I kept
up my English by reading English books. We also have a lot of British
and American shows on TV, so I guess that has helped me to keep up. My
Dad was a scientist with many international contacts, so we often had
guests who spoke English (since that was the only language they all
knew). I don't speak it very well any more, since I hardly ever get to
speak any English nowadays. I didn't really study to be a translator,
but am an MA in English literature. However, that won't put bread on the
table. And more importantly, meat in the cats' bowls. ;o)

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Singh - 09 Sep 2004 14:15 GMT
I am impressed, Marina; I'd love to pick up Finnish because I think it is a
cool language. I really got into Finnish culture when I discoved Kalevala
(called by some the Finnish "Iliad," their epic myth.) There'd be no way to
practice, though, unless maybe one might meet a hockey player recruited from
the Elite team.

Where I live, Spanish and French seem as natural as breathing. We have a
huge Hispanic population in Buffalo, and on the West Side everything is
Espanol; people who can't actually speak the language have a remarkable
ability to read it. And because we're at the Canadian border, French is
pushed in the schools and many keep in practice because of the free
comings-and-goings between us neighbors.

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Baha

> > I've almost made the final breakthrough twice, once with German and
> > again with Spanish.  Unfortunately, I've let both of them lapse.  When
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LOL - 08 Sep 2004 05:05 GMT
> Sorry, though I am a translator, I don't speak Cattish, so can't help
> you with that, but the cats are sending calm-down-already purrs to
> Tallulah. Is she getting aggressive towards Hubert? This happened with
> Kira when she went into heat and one of her male kittens was still at
> home with her. I think that's just Nature's way to make sure a mother
> doesn't mate with her own son.

No, Lula's been her usual sweet, patient self with Hubert.  He's only
six weeks old, though, which may make a difference?  In fact today
while we were home eating lunch she was lying on the kitchen floor,
trying to score some chicken and at the same time trying to ignore
Hubert, who was climbing all over her wanting to play.  While he was
gnawing on her face I asked her if she *really* wanted more like him.
Apparently she does, but I personally feel that one Hubert is plenty.
;-)

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Krista
Lois Reay - 07 Sep 2004 05:18 GMT
You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own problems here
with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT NOW - I am not ready
to let her mate just yet.
I have 15 kittens in the house and don't need anymore just yet!

Lois
--
Burmese are like potato chips, you can't just have one.

> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ------
> Krista
jmcquown - 07 Sep 2004 11:30 GMT
> You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own
> problems here with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT
> NOW - I am not ready to let her mate just yet.
> I have 15 kittens in the house and don't need anymore just yet!
>
> Lois

FIFTEEN KITTENS?  (sorry but that just demanded all caps)

Jill
>> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
>> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> ------
>> Krista
Lois Reay - 07 Sep 2004 19:50 GMT
> FIFTEEN KITTENS?  (sorry but that just demanded all caps)

Yes but they are not all from the same litter - three different litters and
the ages vary from eight weeks (Bobbi's six) two weeks (Freya's four) and
two days (Gigi's five)

Lois

> Jill
> >> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >> ------
> >> Krista
Gracecat - 07 Sep 2004 20:24 GMT
> > FIFTEEN KITTENS?  (sorry but that just demanded all caps)
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Lois

But Lois!!! There's six, five and four.  With any luck Phoebe would only
have three.... or seven ;).

I definitely see an experiment in the works here.

Grace
Lois Reay - 07 Sep 2004 20:29 GMT
> But Lois!!! There's six, five and four.  With any luck Phoebe would only
> have three.... or seven ;).
>
> I definitely see an experiment in the works here.
>
> Grace

You may remember that I mated the same four cats late last year and ended up
with TWENTY-EIGHT kittens - not something that I want to repeat in a hurry -
Phoebe usually has quite big litters.

Lois
Melissa Houle - 08 Sep 2004 07:08 GMT
> > You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own
> > problems here with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jill

I quite agree, Jill!  And here I was feeling crowded with two cats and a
kitten under foot!.
> >> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> >> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >> Tallulah has decided that *now* is the perfect time to get started on
> >> a new batch of kittens, and has gone into heat today.

SHe's a cat. I'm convinced they're all taught how to fall ill, get injured
or go into heat at least convenient possible moment by their mothers.  Cats
do like to keep us on our toes, after all.

> >> We will be at TED's office, prepared to beg, first thing in the
> >> morning, but until then, if any of you Cattish speakers could
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >> ------
> >> Krista

LOL, Sorry, but it IS a funny image. =o) I tried to convey your request to
Cesca for translation at which she yawned, and came up with some thing like

"Ppprrrrrttooowwwwwww." Try it on Tallulah, and see if she responds
favorably. I haven't the foggiest Idea what it means, so  I hope it's not a
Feline insult. <G>

Melissa
LOL - 09 Sep 2004 04:49 GMT
(snippage)

> LOL, Sorry, but it IS a funny image. =o) I tried to convey your request to
> Cesca for translation at which she yawned, and came up with some thing like
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Melissa

Thank Cesca for me, please; however, by the time I read this post Lula
was already without all those bits of her that were making the
statement necessary.  So we'll never know.   :-P

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Krista
Kreisleriana - 07 Sep 2004 13:21 GMT
>You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own problems here
>with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT NOW - I am not ready
>to let her mate just yet.
>I have 15 kittens in the house and don't need anymore just yet!
>
>Lois

15 kittens?  FIFTEEN KITTENS?!!!

Where are the pictures?

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Lois Reay - 07 Sep 2004 19:52 GMT
> >You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own problems here
> >with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT NOW - I am not ready
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
> alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/

I have taken some photo's but have been to busy to upload them onto a site -
I am working on building a web site so hopefully I will have that up and
running soon.

Lois
polonca12000 - 08 Sep 2004 20:36 GMT
Very much looking forward to the pics,
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> running soon.
>
> Lois
Jo Firey - 07 Sep 2004 16:01 GMT
> You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own problems here
> with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT NOW - I am not ready
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Lois
> --

Uh, isn't Phoebe the one who will find herself a mate given half a chance?
And in two months when her kittens would be due, the 15 would be all grown
up right?  If she does have kittens, is it too late for them to be Christmas
kittens?

Jo
Lois Reay - 07 Sep 2004 19:47 GMT
> Uh, isn't Phoebe the one who will find herself a mate given half a chance?
> And in two months when her kittens would be due, the 15 would be all grown
> up right?  If she does have kittens, is it too late for them to be Christmas
> kittens?
>
> Jo

No it was Freya who *jumped* the fence - the FIFTEEN kittens are not all the
same age - Bobbi's six are eight weeks old - Freya's four are two weeks old
and Gigi's are two days old.
Will probably mate Phoebe late this month or early next month - I don't let
them go to their new homes until they are twelve weeks old so will miss the
Christmas rush (which I think is a good thing)

Lois
Steve Touchstone - 07 Sep 2004 20:56 GMT
>No it was Freya who *jumped* the fence - the FIFTEEN kittens are not all the
>same age - Bobbi's six are eight weeks old - Freya's four are two weeks old
>and Gigi's are two days old.
>Will probably mate Phoebe late this month or early next month - I don't let
>them go to their new homes until they are twelve weeks old so will miss the
>Christmas rush (which I think is a good thing)

Aw it sounds like loads of fun with kittens of all differents stages
of devlopment - coure it alsl sounds like an awful lot of work,
especially if you have a couple aspiring to follow in B&C's pawprints.

mini rant with possible abuse warning

I agree about avoiding the holiday kitten syndrome. It never fails to
burn me up to see the cute furry/feathered babies on display for
holidays, just begging for impulse buyers who haven't thought through
pet ownership. One of the worst is one of our local department stores
which has a fairly large farm supply section. At Easter they even dyed
their bunnies, chicks, and ducklings, and I can't help but wonder what
happened to the babies a week or two after going home.
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Sherry - 07 Sep 2004 21:10 GMT
>I agree about avoiding the holiday kitten syndrome. It never fails to
>burn me up to see the cute furry/feathered babies on display for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>their bunnies, chicks, and ducklings, and I can't help but wonder what
>happened to the babies a week or two after going home.

I bet that's Atwoods. We have their sister store, Orcheln's here. The H.S.
director spoke with them about that--the *real* farmers who want baby chicks
prefer to order them anyway, from catalogues. Impulse buyers buy them on sight.
They didn't care. They don't take very good care of them, either; there were
dead ones in there and the water was nasty.
We get a lot of bunnies post-easter at the Humane Society. Don't get chickens,
though. They probably don't survive long enough.
Sherry  <<---- Remembers going to the post office early a.m. and hearing the
"cheep cheep" from baby chicks in back, waiting on recipient to pick them up
Steve Touchstone - 07 Sep 2004 22:10 GMT
>>I agree about avoiding the holiday kitten syndrome. It never fails to
>>burn me up to see the cute furry/feathered babies on display for
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>We get a lot of bunnies post-easter at the Humane Society. Don't get chickens,
>though. They probably don't survive long enough.

Yep, Atwoods. When they first opened their store here I gave them
quite a bit of business, but now it's pretty rare for me to shop
there. And one reason I don't go in is that I hate the baby birds
display. and, like you said, the living conditions are pretty poor.
The display is towards the back of the store depth-wise and middle of
the store width-wise (if that makes any size). So even though it's a
pretty big store, you can hear them pretty much wherever you are. It
makes me sad/mad every time I go inside the store.
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Gracecat - 07 Sep 2004 22:12 GMT
I can't brag about our local livestock enough. They keep chickens, turkeys
and quail on hand during the hatching season. But it's the kind that the
farmers request. Road Island reds etc. *Real* chickens LOL. I haven't seen
them stock a pink, purple or green chick yet.

Thought about that when you said most of the locals order them from the
catalogue. Dad never does because typically they stock most everything and
most everything sells around here.

Grace

> >I agree about avoiding the holiday kitten syndrome. It never fails to
> >burn me up to see the cute furry/feathered babies on display for
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Sherry - 07 Sep 2004 22:30 GMT
>Thought about that when you said most of the locals order them from the
>catalogue. Dad never does because typically they stock most everything and
>most everything sells around here.
>
>Grace

Ours doesn't stock chicks unless it's right before Easter. So that tells me,
it's a deliberate marketing ploy aimed at the impulse (and kids). If they were
serious about stocking "real" chickens, they'd also have them available
post-Easter. Speaking of chickens, DH is looking for some guineas. Like we need
something else to feed. He says guineas are like watchdogs, they alert you when
something's not right. He says they eat snakes. I think he's feeding me a line
of crap. But it will be interesting to see how Bootsie responds to the Amazon
Walking Birdies.

Sherry

Sherry
Steve Touchstone - 08 Sep 2004 01:31 GMT
>I can't brag about our local livestock enough. They keep chickens, turkeys
>and quail on hand during the hatching season. But it's the kind that the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>catalogue. Dad never does because typically they stock most everything and
>most everything sells around here.

Well, I can't talk much about Sherry's store, but I don't really think
of this store as a feed and seed store for the real farmers/ranchers
in the area. It's more of a department store, with a few overpriced
things for stock and tractors. I've mentioned before that I used to do
tractor work for the friend whose shop I use to store my lawn/garden
equipment. He doesn't buy anything for his tractor business there -
it's all low quality or twice the price as the local co-op or Sams.
Even the lawn and garden stuff is high priced cheap stuff. About the
only thing I can say is that they sell overalls (I wear overalls all
the time when working) cheaper than Wal Mart - but the same brand can
be found cheaper elsewhere in town.
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Tanada - 10 Sep 2004 03:25 GMT
> I can't brag about our local livestock enough. They keep chickens, turkeys
> and quail on hand during the hatching season. But it's the kind that the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> catalogue. Dad never does because typically they stock most everything and
> most everything sells around here.

It's been a long long time since the parents mail ordered baby chicks
from the catalog.  I can't even remember which catalog it was.

Pam S.
David Yehudah - 10 Sep 2004 18:30 GMT
Hi, Grace
    You reminded me of a time years ago when I ordered several hundred baby
chicks from a catalog. A few days later I got a call from the post
office; seems somebody there heard the chicks cheeping and just had to
take a look. Next thing you know, they had chicks all over the post
office. The person who called wanted to know if I would come down there
and help round them up.
Cheers,
Dave

> I can't brag about our local livestock enough. They keep chickens, turkeys
> and quail on hand during the hatching season. But it's the kind that the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Grace

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John F. Eldredge - 09 Sep 2004 00:36 GMT
>I agree about avoiding the holiday kitten syndrome. It never fails
>to burn me up to see the cute furry/feathered babies on display for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>can't help but wonder what happened to the babies a week or two
>after going home.

I was rather surprised to learn, several years ago, that a lot of
chicken farmers here in the USA buy their chicks through the US mail.
I was in a post office, heard a lot of cheep-cheep-cheep noises, and
asked the clerk if they had sparrows nesting in the rafters.  He told
me about the boxes of chicks waiting to be delivered (and, mind you,
this was in a post office that serves mostly urban, rather than
country, customers).  I would never have guessed that it was legal to
send any kind of living animal through the mail.

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GKiuchi - 10 Sep 2004 23:03 GMT
When I was a child my dad worked in the Los Angeles postal Terminal Annex and I
remember him telling me about the racket the baby chicks made when they came
through his station...

Gennie

<< I was rather surprised to learn, several years ago, that a lot of
chicken farmers here in the USA buy their chicks through the US mail.
LOL - 08 Sep 2004 05:09 GMT
> You have my sympathy - sorry no words of advice I have my own problems here
> with a cat (Phoebe) that thinks she should mate RIGHT NOW - I am not ready
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> --
> Burmese are like potato chips, you can't just have one.

Whoa.  At least we only have one kitten here, though sometimes I'd
swear there's at least fifteen of him.  Sympathy back atcha.   :-)

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Krista
Pat - 07 Sep 2004 05:30 GMT
Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
period.
LOL - 08 Sep 2004 04:57 GMT
> Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
> period.

I've read that, but our TED says it's okay to go ahead with it, and we
took her in late this afternoon for surgery in the morning.  I know
it's routine for TED and it has to be done for Tallulah, but I really,
really wish there were some other way to handle the birth control
issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(

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Krista
Marina - 08 Sep 2004 05:47 GMT
> I've read that, but our TED says it's okay to go ahead with it, and we
> took her in late this afternoon for surgery in the morning.  I know
> it's routine for TED and it has to be done for Tallulah, but I really,
> really wish there were some other way to handle the birth control
> issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
> they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(

Aww, Lots of purrs coming over for worried meowmie. Lula will come
through it with flying colours, but we're sending a few purrs her way
too, just in case.

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SUQKRT - 08 Sep 2004 21:10 GMT
>> really wish there were some other way to handle the birth control
>> issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>through it with flying colours, but we're sending a few purrs her way
>too, just in case.

Ditto purrs.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Sep 2004 06:00 GMT
> I really, really wish there were some other way to handle the
> birth control issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling
> horrified that they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(

I know exactly what you mean! I felt the same way when I had to take
Roxy in to be spayed. In fact, I was going through an emotional trauma
at the time - my 15-year relationship was ending - and I just couldn't
deal with the idea of my sweet kitten getting cut open. She was only
6 months old. And she was the one who was helping me get through the
heartbreak! So I called them and changed the date of the surgery,
putting it off for a few weeks. That turned out to be a good decision,
because by then I had gotten myself a little more together. It was still
really hard, though.

But Lula will be OK! It's not really that big an incision, and (Sammy
notwithstanding - that was an unusual situation, I think) it doesn't
take long to heal. You might want to find out what kind of anasthetic
they'll be using. Some kinds linger for a longer time in the body, and
it takes a little longer for the cat to get back their energy. I remember
when I had Lambchop spayed, she was low energy for several days, and
I got really worried. I posted here for advice, and people told me that
it was probably because of the kind of anasthetic used. Somebody here
should be able to give more specific information about that.

In any case, many PURRS for Lula's quick recovery! Please keep us
posted.

Joyce
CatNipped - 08 Sep 2004 14:54 GMT
> But Lula will be OK! It's not really that big an incision, and (Sammy
> notwithstanding - that was an unusual situation, I think)

Definitely and unusual situation.  She the first cat I've ever seen who had
a problem with the spaying.  All my other cats, my family's cats, my
friends' cats came through the surgery with absolutely no problems and were
back to normal in just a day or two.

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 08 Sep 2004 06:02 GMT
On 7 Sep, Krista wrote:

>I've read that, but our TED says it's okay to go ahead with it, and we
>took her in late this afternoon for surgery in the morning.  I know
>it's routine for TED and it has to be done for Tallulah, but I really,
>really wish there were some other way to handle the birth control
>issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
>they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(

Aww!  Just try to relax, have a nice cup of tea or some little treat.
In your head, you know that things will be OK, but in your heart, you
can't help but worry.  When you give us all an update tomorrow you'll
be telling us that everything is just fine.

Regards and Hugs,
O J
CatNipped - 08 Sep 2004 14:51 GMT
<snip>
> issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
> they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(
>
> ------
> Krista

I know how you feel - I'm sure you all remember my angst when Sammy had it
done! ;>

Purrs coming that everything will be just fine and Lula will come through
with flying colors!

Hugs,

CatNipped
polonca12000 - 08 Sep 2004 20:46 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for the surgery to go really well and gentle
calming hugs for Tallulah's worried meowmie (I was just as worried when I
took Soncek to the vet),
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> > Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
> > period.
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> ------
> Krista
Steve Touchstone - 09 Sep 2004 02:33 GMT
>> Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
>> period.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>issue.  I keep trying to talk myself out of feeling horrified that
>they will be cutting open my Lula.  :-(

I know the feeling. When I took Little Bit is I was initially worried
since a couple of the babies were still nursing (not Sammy of course,
she was the first to do everything, including being weaned). Turned
out after the surgery, TED said it looked like she was about to go
into heat again. Since the deed is probably done by now, we're sending
some quick recovery purrs along with hugs for the worried meowmie.
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Stormin Mormon - 12 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT
Would a parallel set of advice be "most fire department suggest not trying
to extinguish the house until the fire has cooled"?

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Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
period.
Seanette Blaylock - 12 Oct 2004 09:40 GMT
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> had some very
interesting things to say about Re: A word of advice...:

>>Many vets say that spaying is best delayed until the cat is not in a heat
>>period.
>Would a parallel set of advice be "most fire department suggest not trying
>to extinguish the house until the fire has cooled"?

Something like that. :-)

Nice to know the group now has *two* token Mormons. :-)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 07 Sep 2004 06:15 GMT
>If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
>hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.

Somehow I have a mental picture of the cat howls being louder than the
hurricane wind howls...

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> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
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> ------
> Krista

Try "scruffing" her and holding her in place on the floor for a few minutes.
This sounds strange, but I told this to a friend who had a similar problem
and it worked for her.  Actually my cats showed me this.  When we first got
Jessie she went into heat before we could get her spayed and Demi would jump
on her, bite the back of her neck and hold her down for a few minutes - and
it shut her up for a while!

Hugs,

CatNipped
LOL - 08 Sep 2004 04:59 GMT
> Try "scruffing" her and holding her in place on the floor for a few minutes.
> This sounds strange, but I told this to a friend who had a similar problem
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>
> CatNipped

Heh.  I didn't have to try that, fortunately - we took her to TED late
this afternoon for a spay in the morning, so it won't be an issue in
the future, either.  ;-)

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Krista
polonca12000 - 08 Sep 2004 09:53 GMT
Purrs,
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> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
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> ------
> Krista
Singh - 09 Sep 2004 14:07 GMT
Aiyiyi, can I sympathise! In early January--a very stormy time in my own
beloved Buffalo--Stosh decided to hit puberty, and to add to his gluttony
and ADHD, caught a case of the Adolescent Hornies. We did have an
appointment, three weeks down the road, for The Operation, but Stosh went
and got romantic on me. Specifically, with my leg, and in a manner
usually associated with, excuse my language, dogs.

"Doctor, I don't think there's any delicate way to say this...Stosh is
getting Oedipal on me."
"Beg pardon?"
"In mythological proportions, Doctor. He's proposed marriage to my leg
and has decided to consummate the relationship a little early."
"Good thing you called. You now have an appointment the day after
tomorrow."

I can't imagine being in the middle of hurricane season with an, um,
eager young lady though. What timing! Kind of like a dark-furred cat not
going into shed mode until you've got a guest in a white dress!

Blessed be!
Baha

> If you can help it, never, never, never sit out the dregs of a
> hurricane in the company of a cat in heat.
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> ------
> Krista
CatNipped - 10 Sep 2004 00:48 GMT
> Aiyiyi, can I sympathise! In early January--a very stormy time in my own
> beloved Buffalo--Stosh decided to hit puberty, and to add to his gluttony
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Blessed be!
> Baha

ROTFLMAO!!  I *love* the droll way you can put things Baha!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped
 
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